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Best iPhone skin/theme or look-alike for Touch

I bought a Touch from Sprint a few days ago because my ATT 8125 Wizard finally broke down. I wanted to know what fellow touch users think to be the best iPhone or iPhone-like loader for the Touch.
So far, I have found:
- Gigabit iPhone Software Theme (You need to pay for this!)
- iFonz (A good but slow skin)
- PountUI (iPhone-like, but limited in functionality)
Any other suggestions fellow Touch-users?

This is a post from (Mooring) over at www.pdaphone.com
Here is another iPhone like interface. It looks relatively new and I have not tired it. There seems to be a good design for customization. There is a video of the application at: FreeStylWM.com www.whoneedsaniphone.com

Thank you tmz
Thank you tmz,
This looks awesome, and also looks like it will most-likely be the best running "skin" for ppc users who want that iPhone-feel. Downloading now..

http://www.iphonetheme4ppc.com/
Requires WAD and WA3, but easily the best theme available.

Do not want to pay for iPhone skin
I do not want to have to pay for the iPhone skin.. In order to maximize the speed of the handset, I realized that the best solution would be to find a way to edit or add an additional side to the built-in cube with the iphone icons. I have found many posts doing something similar, but haven't found one that could actually make this happen..
Any ideas?

This is the one i have on my phone and love it.........
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=15969

tmz said:
This is the one i have on my phone and love it.........
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=15969
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Yea they do look like they know a few things! I'm still anoyed at the fact that I can't just go into the registry and finagle a bagle like some characters seem to be able to though!!!

Samsung Ominia

Has anyone made a ROM using the Samsung Ominia User Interface? i saw it on youtube the other day and it looks cool i was just wondering if anyone can make it.

I could. The Omnia interface is nice, but its not all that better than the M2D imo.

NFSFAN said:
I could. The Omnia interface is nice, but its not all that better than the M2D imo.
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ofcoursee NOTHIN is better then ur ROM (1.27 BELL) that i m running ryte now NO doubt about that.
but its nice to have different things you know to see little change in our HTC TOUCH thats what i think. you dont have to do it just for me. beacause i do understand it takes countless amount of hours and hard work.
soo if more people agree and if they want it too, then ill kindly request you too make it.
I KNOW tht if ur gonna make it then it will be the BEST thing out there!!
thanxx alott bro

im sorry but that would be wicked !!!!!! the FEWedgets plugin was cool for a minute but boring, to limited.. and not tha best quality.. I aswell wouldn't ask for tha amount of work to be put in.. but 4real that would be pretty sick! imo

yea ehh thats what i thought
no doubt it takes lots of hard work but if we have more people wanting this
then we can kindly request NFSFAN to make one for us.
so can everyone who wants this ROM just post a reply saying "yea this would be nice or yes u want want this ROM.

yea this would be nice!

Hey all,
One of the guys I work with actually has one of these phones and I played around with it for a couple hours the other day, and IMHO the interface kinda sucks LOL
While the wow and cool factor lasted maybe 10 minutes or so the actual usability and functionality of the phone with added configs and settings didnt really do alot to the form and feel of the phone compared to anything custom on a WinMO device, Android (referring to the Vogue port of Android) or even the IPhone
Really, the adding and removal of the widgets are nice, but its through 5 hoops to get to any real apps or make any useful activity of the phone plus with the smallish screen on a vogue device the widgets would dominate the available area and with like the Omnia start apps without the intention of wanting them opened when trying to open something else.
Again, not against it, but seriously I dont see anything all that useful other than a few minutes of wowability until the omnia gui is unchecked and tf2d or standard WinMO UI would be re-enabled by the user - of course to each their own and if the desire is there enough someone will build it although I would personally love to see more progress into the area of WinMO 6.5 or 7 than the Omnias interface or even more stability and speed being developed and worked on for the existing 6.1 WinMO/Custom ROM that currently exist
Detroit Doug

Detroit_Doug said:
Hey all,
One of the guys I work with actually has one of these phones and I played around with it for a couple hours the other day, and IMHO the interface kinda sucks LOL
While the wow and cool factor lasted maybe 10 minutes or so the actual usability and functionality of the phone with added configs and settings didnt really do alot to the form and feel of the phone compared to anything custom on a WinMO device, Android (referring to the Vogue port of Android) or even the IPhone
Really, the adding and removal of the widgets are nice, but its through 5 hoops to get to any real apps or make any useful activity of the phone plus with the smallish screen on a vogue device the widgets would dominate the available area and with like the Omnia start apps without the intention of wanting them opened when trying to open something else.
Again, not against it, but seriously I dont see anything all that useful other than a few minutes of wowability until the omnia gui is unchecked and tf2d or standard WinMO UI would be re-enabled by the user - of course to each their own and if the desire is there enough someone will build it although I would personally love to see more progress into the area of WinMO 6.5 or 7 than the Omnias interface or even more stability and speed being developed and worked on for the existing 6.1 WinMO/Custom ROM that currently exist
Detroit Doug
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I'm with him ^^^. The gui doesn't really appeal to me, but like I said, depending on the factor of people wanting this, I may consider making a ROM using it. When a reliable and real build of WM6.5 comes out, I will port it to the Vogue.

lol yea I kinda agree, still would be cool, just to say tho.. any possibilty geting a omina style on screen mouse cursor ? its cool in skyfire, but if possible to port that to be able to use thru out menues etc on a htc would be sick!
just a thought

I would also like this. It reminds me of the Android, with the removable widgets. It's nice to have a change every once in awhile!

Not gonna lie I would like to see this a lot

I would like it I'm actually thinking of getting one when my phone is up for renewal or a blackberry storm....just wish there was something new and exciting coming out just seem like we have maxed out the vogue. And android seems like a pain in the ass to get going from reading the thread to many damn steps and buttons that do the opposite of what they were intended to do?!??!

+1 on the boring UI. It would be cool, but the avail widgets are quite useless and can't be used with other plugins. One thing I found odd was that you can't lock the widgets into place, so everytime you click, they move.

I just think the mouse feature would be really cool to have.

Mouse
Hey, those of you wanting the mouse feature, you might wanna try a program called VirtuaMouse One-Hand. I know it's probably not the exact same but it's somewhat the same concept.

drewden123 said:
Hey, those of you wanting the mouse feature, you might wanna try a program called VirtuaMouse One-Hand. I know it's probably not the exact same but it's somewhat the same concept.
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Alright thanks!

jus incase here tha link
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/...d-device-operation-on-windows-mobile-devices/
and 4real thanks for tha info.. just what i wanted, it is a sick app 4real.... not tha best have afew issues wit it but does tha job....
< just realized its a 30 day trial? thats sucks! i hate paying for apps lol >
< actually it cut me off with in 24hours.. said i used 200 clicks with outa stylus and wanted $20.. > *WACK*

Is it just me, or does winmo6.5 look better than "windows phone 7 series"?

To me, personally, the newest winmo doesnt look that amazing. 6.5 with touch flo 3D (Or htc sense, whatever), looks much nicer. Microsoft wont let you skin 7, and you are very limited to certian hardware. I'm getting a HD2, and if a update comes out for winmo7, im sticking with "classic". Time to change my signature!

I completely disagree but to each his own.

When you get to use it in person your opinion will change. Sense is nice though.

I like Touch Flo and I'm using it right now on my Touch Pro2 but I'm looking forward to WP7.

WP7S looks far more advanced, clean and has a much better UI Experience than the super laggy, buggy WM 6.5 can ever have!

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Is it just me, or does winmo6.5 look better than "windows phone 7 series"?
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It's just you.

It depends on your own preference. I personally prefer practicality over ascetics! its more about using the phone than having it as a status symbol for me! Im glad they are moving away from resistive screens and stylus navigation and 6.5.3 is pretty good for that now anyway.
I still think the specs they require will not stop it being ported onto current devices.

I'm sure it's not just you, but that's because WP7 design principles are a bit ahead of time on devices - everyone's used to faux 3D and "cute icons". The concept used in WP7 is prominent on the web - you have plenty of "chromeless UI" there, where "content is the interface". If you think a little, the Web is a really amazing thing from the usability perspective, in most cases you can go to an unfamiliar web site and without any training or preparation maze your way through a very complex underlying structure to get where you want to be. That's what MS is trying to do here as well - you don't have icons and buttons; text and images are the buttons. The visual "hints" like stuff on the side and text "not fitting" the screen are quite natural indicators of showing that there's something else, and are used instead of a "More" or "Advanced" buttons which, in these paradigm, are just unneeded clutter, or UI garbage. So there's a lot of practicality behind this concept, in fact. Whether the implementation will be practical and/or will get widespread adoption remains to be seen, of course.

This appear to me like following conversations might have happened at MS hardquarters:
Dev: Hey I can't get the 3D effects running smooth. But with more money I can do it!
Chief: No money. Screw this 3D things. Just write some plain text instead.
Dev: Oh! We also have problems with multitasking. Already the first screens after booting up are so slow. I need more money and I can fix it!
Chief: No money. Just disable multitasking!

From what I have seen of Windows Mobile 7, I'm not exactly chomping at the bit for it. I will try it out when it's released on here but I wouldn't be surprised if I ended up going back to 6.5.5.

I choose winmo 6.5.3
I think it's not you. I, for one, also think that WP7 is a "failure". It's totally not that impressive as the iPhone OS in the beginning and Android currently. With this WP7, they got themselves disqualified for the Mobile OS race!

i completely agree, i perfer bog standard winmo 6.5 with htc home and spb pocket plus installed on my today screen, i dont bother with touch flow or any other ui's i know how to use my phone its functional practacal and an amazing bit of kit, i dont care if it looks pretty or is in 3d, but its nice to know i have the hardware if i need it , i cant see me getting a win7 series os on my phone untill someone on here has hacked it to death and got it a bit more FUN,

I prefer the stock looking WM6.1 (yes, I'm using WM6.5 without the start menu, it sux) on the new builds if I hit the Start button it makes me feel like I have a Nokia crap in my hands.... f*** the globalization

Is it me or does Windows 7 look cr*p?

Basically ive been watching videos and previews and all that stuff and I thought this looks boring its just an iphone rip off, I liked windows mobile 6.5.x and stuff because of the high customization and Sense/Manila, Windows phone 7 is so clinical and boring and whats with hat programs menu that doesn't look good its boring list WOW to be honest id rather have my TyTN II back maybe the games will be good... SO! you'll have to have a good job too afford them.. im sorry Microsoft had a very different and exclusive mobile OS to be honest I think theyve ruined it.... Rant over and Android here I come.

Thanks for your opinion, further changes will take this into consideration

Lmao
Send from Your Mothers Basement

Are you done?
For the record, the Metro GUI has NOTHING similar to the iOS GUI except maybe the software keyboard.
The entire user experience is fundamentally different from anything out there. The panoramic experience is brand new and fresh... there are no analog effects at play. The GUI is 100% digital in inspiration and implementation... no faux glass effects or stupid animations unless app developers decide to implement them.
If you can look at a video of it running and not see a difference from say Android or iOS, you're delusional and are probably better off with a piece of homogenized Apple garbage.
God, I hate people like you that talk without thinking.

actually I see what he's saying. I believe the UI cannot be customized much like how iPhone can't really be customized, and even with the apps that you can make for windows phone 7 you have to use the same kind of UI unless you are developing a game (as far as we've seen) I think the problem stems from the fact that Microsoft has mad a lot of radical changes that make it more like a iPhone clone than an upgrade to the windows mobile that we all know and love. Windows mobile originally looked to be on par with the way Android worked. Now it looks like they are going after iPhone but an iPhone of 3 years ago than the iPhone now.

Iridox said:
Are you done?
For the record, the Metro GUI has NOTHING similar to the iOS GUI except maybe the software keyboard.
The entire user experience is fundamentally different from anything out there. The panoramic experience is brand new and fresh... there are no analog effects at play. The GUI is 100% digital in inspiration and implementation... no faux glass effects or stupid animations unless app developers decide to implement them.
If you can look at a video of it running and not see a difference from say Android or iOS, you're delusional and are probably better off with a piece of homogenized Apple garbage.
God, I hate people like you that talk without thinking.
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Ok shut up, I meant its turning into the iPhone ui I.E. black background with random icons I meant to say the homepage no need to cry about it. From my mothers Basement??? Hmm I hate my mum and am not living with her + I am 16 you cant expect more from me I left school 11 weeks ago and am attending a 9-5 course I have also just passed a lifeguard course... Oh and I don't have a basement so... ummm, fail, you idiot, I also said "is it me" A question so you should have told me I was wrong not? Plus it was my opinion I wanted other opinions not a load of Sh*t from idiots. Oh and I said "like" I can see a difference otherwise I wouldnt be saying time to go to Android or I prefer WM 6.5.. well done hard man...
God, I hate Fan boy idiots like you who talk a load of ****.
Hmm why not try saying no it is not like the iPhone os and explain it no need to have a go at people for having different opinions and/or being wrong and as you say some of it is different to the iPhone ios crap but it is becoming very similar in certain ways. If I get banned for what I just said then oh well, wouldnt of said it if I didnt receive rude responses.
xcom923 thank you for being polite. Thats exactly what I meant by turning into iOS its just not really customizable ok people will jailbreak it but a background wont really look good, you cant see it theres boxes in the way. Thanks xcom =)

I just typed out a whole response to this, but decided not to post it.
Meh, some people can't be helped.

Iridox said:
I just typed out a whole response to this, but decided not to post it.
Meh, some people can't be helped.
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You never tried to help me you just got angry and raged and then said some people cant be helped... YOU NEVER TRIED TO "HELP"

That's a mighty chip on your visually challenged shoulder...

dudes45 said:
You never tried to help me you just got angry and raged and then said some people cant be helped... YOU NEVER TRIED TO "HELP"
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Calm down, or leave. Soon enough the mods will see this and sort it out if it carries on.
There is no need for that sort of attitude at all.
Im not having a go, just chill out
Iridox, he was just voicing his opinion, I sort of think your reply was a bit on the hard side.
I agree with what your saying, fundamentally. I can not stand the look of WP7. I wouldn't say it looks like Ios, but I agree its going in that direction, i.e. closed.
I, forone will not be buying a phone running it.
Can we PLEASE not turn this into a flaming thread.
There is enough of them.

Wp7 basically looks great.

Seriously, does anyone think Window Phone 7 looks good? It looks crap

While under the hood WM7 might be really cool and flashy (or flashless imho) I'm no fan of the light blue squares on the home screen, yes they are functional but I think for all the bling behind the scenes they could have been a little more on the creative side, heck even circles would have been a step above the blue square.
Disclaimer
This is just my humble opinion and no animals, phones, young people, llamas, or anthing organic in nature was harmed or otherwise flamed during it's writing. ;-)

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Calm down, or leave. Soon enough the mods will see this and sort it out if it carries on.
There is no need for that sort of attitude at all.
Im not having a go, just chill out
Iridox, he was just voicing his opinion, I sort of think your reply was a bit on the hard side.
I agree with what your saying, fundamentally. I can not stand the look of WP7. I wouldn't say it looks like Ios, but I agree its going in that direction, i.e. closed.
I, forone will not be buying a phone running it.
Can we PLEASE not turn this into a flaming thread.
There is enough of them.
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He said he hates people like me... No need to say that and he essentially called me stupid.. so I just got annoyed it was a bit rude...I dont join forums to be intentionally rude or abusive I just join for help and friendly useful answers. It annoys me when I get an answer like that I asked about it I did not say it was anything just said it "seems like", he could have corrected me instead of saying he hates people like me, lol I know this sounds like a retarded excuse but im not happy at the mo just split up with my gf and stuff so acting a bit funny at the mo... If I had relied more like hatemywing, Azure, Doministry I wouldnt have been rude. So yeah, back to the thred no more flaming ++ sorry Iridox..

Not my words, but a good point:
"Why doesn't WP7 have a beautiful enertia/page scrolling like the iPhone. Why does clicking or touching on a 'tile' makes the other tiles slowly fades away one by one instead of having a different navigation metaphor...this is such a bad navigation design and is even bad for the eyes over time... MS should take care of the core fundamentals.... a very fast, snappy and responsive UI with efficient scrolling. In all the demos, the tile or icon doesn't respond to touch in a consistent manner and have to be touch 'multiple' times before it works... If you can't demostrate the you perform the core well, why should anyone care? You can call anyone an MS Hater all you want, but at the end of the day, the writer has a point and those flaws are very obvious, and all you know that.
At the end of the day, what makes Apple iPhone a hit has to do more with a pleasing and beautiful UI (icons, ects)... than xbox, sharepoint,.. those square Hubs are so ugly... and MS idea about theming is giving the hubs different colors?"
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vetvito said:
Not my words, but a good point:
"Why doesn't WP7 have a beautiful enertia/page scrolling like the iPhone. Why does clicking or touching on a 'tile' makes the other tiles slowly fades away one by one instead of having a different navigation metaphor...this is such a bad navigation design and is even bad for the eyes over time... MS should take care of the core fundamentals.... a very fast, snappy and responsive UI with efficient scrolling. In all the demos, the tile or icon doesn't respond to touch in a consistent manner and have to be touch 'multiple' times before it works... If you can't demostrate the you perform the core well, why should anyone care? You can call anyone an MS Hater all you want, but at the end of the day, the writer has a point and those flaws are very obvious, and all you know that.
At the end of the day, what makes Apple iPhone a hit has to do more with a pleasing and beautiful UI (icons, ects)... than xbox, sharepoint,.. those square Hubs are so ugly... and MS idea about theming is giving the hubs different colors?"
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I could be wrong, but it should have enertial scrolling. One thing I like about the scrolling is the 'rubber banding'. If you scroll too far the text area compressed and then snaps back when you release. At least my zuneHD does and from every account people are suprised by how snappy the UI is.
With the UI as a whole it seems to be hit or miss. Those open to change seem to love it but those who want more of the same seem repulsed.
For me, I'm looking for something different and I like it. If you want icons on a grid then go for Android or iOS, simple as that.

So you prefer tiles on a grid?

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Wow, that was a quick reply. The tiles aren't static. They are a cross between widgets and icons.
The UI tries something different and I at least find it refreshing.

vetvito said:
Not my words, but a good point:
"Why doesn't WP7 have a beautiful enertia/page scrolling like the iPhone. Why does clicking or touching on a 'tile' makes the other tiles slowly fades away one by one instead of having a different navigation metaphor...this is such a bad navigation design and is even bad for the eyes over time... MS should take care of the core fundamentals.... a very fast, snappy and responsive UI with efficient scrolling. In all the demos, the tile or icon doesn't respond to touch in a consistent manner and have to be touch 'multiple' times before it works... If you can't demostrate the you perform the core well, why should anyone care? You can call anyone an MS Hater all you want, but at the end of the day, the writer has a point and those flaws are very obvious, and all you know that.
At the end of the day, what makes Apple iPhone a hit has to do more with a pleasing and beautiful UI (icons, ects)... than xbox, sharepoint,.. those square Hubs are so ugly... and MS idea about theming is giving the hubs different colors?"
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Im not sure what videos that person was watching, but of all the video's i've seen (ENGADGET REVIEW VIDEO INCLUDED) every reviewer has said how snappy and fast it was. The videos made that apparent as well.
So my opinion greatly differs in that aspect.
Until i have a phone in my hand i wont know for sure how much i really like or dislike it.
One thing i've noticed that is a flaw in my opinion is the ability to quick switch between "Hubs" or apps. You have to go all the way to the home screen and THEN open an app. You are unable to somehow quickly switch.
I assume a lot of these issues will be fixed within the first 6 months after release.

No it's not just you.

Touchxperience, it's coming to wp7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FEcG0kx7_0&feature=player_embedded
it looks freaking awesome

You also forgot to mention advanced config tool is coming to wp7 as well from the great schaps. Not sure if they will be sideloaded or from the marketplace yet.

Stuff like this was cool back in WinMo, but I wouldn't dig something like this on WP7. It takes a lovely interface and yuks it up.

It looks very boring and silly. The standard is far away... On the better way

Exactly, I won't install this 2007-looking-****. That is why I don't think I'll EVER install a "facelift" tweak/app on a Windows Phone if it doesn't come from MS.
I love the minimalistic big clean UI . There's nothing like it on the market and it's one of the main reasons (if not the main) of buying my HD7

I think advanced config tool will be much needed for wp7. It is a good os overall which has left me chill on modding heavily

I saw more black screens than anything else on the video.

I really hope this is not the future of wp7... Respect the skills of the programmer, but I think Microsoft, who put a huge ammount of money and time in the Metro design, did a pretty good job!

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I really hope this is not the future of wp7... Respect the skills of the programmer, but I think Microsoft, who put a huge ammount of money and time in the Metro design, did a pretty good job!
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don't worry this will be the same as htc hup (if not it wound be in the marketplace)
if you look at the youtube video you see that julien is only using the back button and not the windows button.
here isa link to his profile http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=354354

well...I liked the initiative for the project personally and there are elements I enjoy. I really wouldn't mind a program that functions similarly to htc hub but adds a lot of useful things to wp7 experience
so I would love to test this once betas are released

Probably wont be approved, looks like it has system access which isnt allowed. Plus it really is pointless, WP7 is fine the way it is.

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Probably wont be approved, looks like it has system access which isnt allowed. Plus it really is pointless, WP7 is fine the way it is.
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don't think so , way would he make a complete UI only for phones that are dev unlocked , batt is a simple .reg key , wifi is a simple .reg key , netwerk (3g , H eV) are also simple .reg key's .
the rest you see are simple links to marketplace (same as marketplace search)

Mmm, not interested. I like Metro just fine, thanks.

the problem is that it is to little and to late , I WAS really in love with Touchxperience on wm6.*(but it was never ready ) but on wp7 I really don't want it .

You can't modify reg keys, it won't be approved.

Yeah, I agree with pretty much everyone else here. This app is similar to the Xperia X10. Offers too little and too late.
The current UI is badass, brilliant and intuitive. Why would we want this anymore?
It would've been killer on 6.5 but now? NTY

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who's talking about modifying .reg key's , you only need the read them for batt and wifi/operator

This vaporware hasn't died completely yet?! I thought we got over this 3 years ago.