Graphics performance questions and a proposition - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hi,
first of all if it was mentioned before then: sorry I've looked but I must be blind.
I have a few questions in my opinion of a Kaiser user a huuuugely important questions:
1) how is the overall graphics performance doing?
2) how is video playback (e.g. std divx movie) is it flicker/image breakes free?
3) is UI performance good, both 2d and 3d
4) does it have by default 2d/3d HW acceleration libraries, or is it all over the Kaiser again...
I think it would be great if someone that has access/owns Touch HD/Omnia/Touch Pro/Touch Pro 2/ Diamond 2/ etc
could do some graphics tests, for instance at the bottom of this page ->
wiki
Thanks in advance
Pawel
PS If I asked for something that already is being done then just shoot me for not finding it, sorry

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Artemis VGA Video Recording (With similar Quality to Nokia N95)

hello
I was wondering whether there is an app out there that enables you to record video in 640*480 resolution, where the quality of the video is similar to the N95.
If processing power is a problem, i can overclock to 260Mhz (and higher if necessary).
All comments are welcome.
Thanks in advance, Uzzy
i'm pretty sure it's a hardware limitation and not a software one.
CoolCamera in theory is supposed to give VGA recording, but whether it's the same quality as the N95 is another question.
http://www.ateksoft.com/
I've played about with this in the past, but it always seems a little slow, but it has so many settings that it could be something that just need tinkering with.
Good luck
other programs
are there any other programs for web cam and working good?

video quality in diamond

Hi! everyone. it is the first time i post a thread in XDA. i am using core player play a video in diamond and result in a little bit lagging video.
how to config coreplayer 1.25 built 4506 to get a high video quality?????
by running benchmark, i only got 70-85%
here is the detail:
video:
size:640 x 360
bit rate: 600k/s
code :xvid
frame : 23.976
audio:
format :mp3
bit rate: 160,44100Hz
Might be usefull to share the settings you use in CorePlayer.
Second, this does not belong in the ROM Development section. It should be in the Diamond section.

Diamond D3D Video drivers - default HTC_3D(soft) vs. ATI3D(hard) vs. S.Omnia3d(soft).

Why is the "ati d3d video driver" that works perfectly on HTC Diamond mostly ignored by the chefs and cookers?
Any specific reasons?
We have a version of the ATI d3d driver that enables diamond hardware rendering and makes VR hologram works smooth and 3d games are totally different.
Also there are COD2 3d files and settings here...
There is a visible improvement with this driver but the driver is ignored without any reason.
Also I added Samsung Omnia 3d SOFTWARE rendering drivers if you want to compare.(You can’t uninstall S.Omnia driver.)
Use the test`s and compare the results.
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ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER FAQ:
- Works perfectly on 2.03 rom.
- ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER makes OpenGL ES 1.1 to work on Hardware mode.
ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER enables diamond hardware rendering for 3D applications which are made on OpenGL ES.
Like S2P and the 3D hologram and lots of GLES 3d games with the 3D driver. (DOOM, DUKE NUKEM etc...)
- Uninstall procedure of the ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER - remove the cab or switch easily from one driver to other for testing via registry:
* HKLM/System/D3DM/Drivers/LocalHook ( d3dm_ati.dll or htc_d3dm.dll ) The original HTC_d3dm.dll is a software driver, which is a heavily modified Microsoft Reference driver that HTC ships with our Diamond's.
- mpeg, avi, xvid, or any video extension wont work better. This ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER mainly enables hardware rendering for 3D applications.
- No battery problems at all. I did noticed some improvements but not tested. USEd this driver since aug. without problems.
To visualy expiriense the huge 3d difference with the ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER.
->> Just copy "lights.exe" to your Diamond and run it with the default driver. Check the speed and the quality of the rotating cylinder.
->> Installl the "Driver_Ati d3d.cab" and run again "light.exe" Check the speed and the quality of the rotating cylinder. (video)
->> Do the same with the Virtual Hologram.
To test:
- Disable TF3D;
- Power (disable turn off backlight)
Restart and wait until everything is loaded properly before running the programs.
1.LiGHTS.EXE Animation
a.Original driver
Driver: Microsoft d3d - d3dmref.dll
Hardware Rasterization - F A L S E
Hardware T &L – F A L S E
Using system memory – slow
b. ATI 3D driver
Driver:
Hardware Rasterization – T R U E
Hardware T &L – T R U E
Using VIDEO memory – VERY FAST
2.Dynamix 3d benchmark results - Software mode
a.Original driver
average 58.59FPS
min 15FPS
max 71FPS
b. ( Samsung Omnia )
average 65.66FPS
min 21FPS
max 71FPS
3.VIrtiual hologram
a.Original driver – AVG 16FPS
b.ATI 3D VIDEO DRIVER – AVG 51FPS
Lots of improvements with all 3d games.
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Credit goes to http://www.htcclassaction.org/ for getting 3D drivers ported and figuring out how to enable and accelerate Ati D3D.
K
Well some cookers don't add it so that people can choose... some uses ati d3d and some other use others as omnia drivers which i personally prefer... well it just done so that people can chose.. you can find this driver all the places on this forum btw..
you know the MSM7200 doesn't have *any* ATI technology inside it right? if there's any performance improvement, it must be imagined, or it's optimising software processing.
Well they're licensing ATI's imageon chip so in someway there is ATI technology inside
There's been a whole slew of developments over the past few days from different directions, in terms of MSM graphics. There has to be a chip of some sort or else OpenGLES wouldn't be supported, I think. And as Wishmaster put it, QC is licensing that name.
KraFT_mk said:
Why is the "ati 3d video driver" for HTC Diamond not included in the standard htc rom and also its mostly ignored by the cookers?
Any specific reasons?
We have a version of the ATI d3d driver that makes VR hologram works smooth and some games are totally different.
Also there are COD2 3d files and settings here...
There is a visible improvement with this driver but the driver is ignored.
Why is that and is this the only 3d version?
K
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0.15 fps before and 30fps after in hologram.
gotta say, there is something to this.
hologram doesn't have any consistency in measuring fps, imo it's not very good app at the moment for that purpose, I would like to see better fps in some other programs after using this driver pack, anyone?
also, I haven't found any improvement in video playback which is more important I guess, at least for me.
hmm Its better to install the driver is it smoother like an iphone or so? wich driver is the best forwathcing movies
Olipro said:
you know the MSM7200 doesn't have *any* ATI technology inside it right? if there's any performance improvement, it must be imagined, or it's optimising software processing.
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the Diamond uses the MSM 7201A and the ATI Imageon thingy.
there IS ATI technology in this phone. maybe you have it confused with another phone?
KraFT_mk said:
Why is the "ati 3d video driver" for HTC Diamond not included in the standard htc rom and also its mostly ignored by the cookers?
Any specific reasons?
We have a version of the ATI d3d driver that makes VR hologram works smooth and some games are totally different.
Also there are COD2 3d files and settings here...
There is a visible improvement with this driver but the driver is ignored.
Why is that and is this the only 3d version?
K
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the reason why they didn't include the driver is because it drain the battery a little bit faster when watching video , recording video , opening 3d program or games and so on .
So let me get this straight, it offers improvements to the phone but it's downside is that it drains the battery more. Do we know how much / fast ?
No, it shouldn't drain the battery at all. In fact, it is more efficient use of it.
There could be different reasons why chef don't use it. I saw one say that it's not official...or something of the sort.
Right, in that case, anyone got a link to whatever version of the driver is the latest one please ?
Many thanks,
^ The Ati d3d...cab in the first post should work fine.
I've tried the Omnia drivers with VSBenchmark2007, and there's no real difference. In fact, ATI is still a tad bit better.
First post update:
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Also I added Samsung Omnia 3d SOFTWARE rendering drivers if you want to compare.(You can’t uninstall them!)
Use the test and lets compare the results.
Driver_Ati d3d.cab (33.7 KB, 0 views)
Driver_SJ SamsungOmnia D3D.cab (109.0 KB, 0 views)
Test_dynamix3dbench.PPC2003_ARM.CAB (152.3 KB, 0 views)
Test_Lights and Text3D.zip (8.8 KB, 0 views)
Here my Result:
I use ATI d3d driver with original 2.03 GER Rom.
Result form Dynamix 3D Benchmark:
Average FPS: 67,52
MIN FPS: 21
MAX FPS: 73
Diamond Hologram:
FPS: 25
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Without the Driver:
Result form Dynamix 3D Benchmark:
Average FPS: 65,67
MIN FPS: 21
MAX FPS: 71
Diamond Hologram:
FPS: 0,15
igo8 and 3d drivers
hi all,
i noticed that the 3d interface of igo8 doesn't run smoothly on the diamond. Does anyone know if the ATI drivers make this app run more smoothly?
Any idea how to implement the Ati Driver cab in a stock ROM.
Wich files i must change i the kitchen.
Sorry but i don´t found any informations in this forum
I'll try to explain this as good as i possibly can.
The Ati driver is the ONLY driver that enables hardware 3D rendering. No Hardware 2D rendering. So you'll ONLY see improvements in 3D applications THAT USE OPENGL_ES_CM. (so NO improvements to TomTom, Igo, whatever nav app you use UNLESS it uses openGL)
The Omnia driver is a software 3D render driver. It doesn't do anything with the graphics chip hardware-wise.
Now about benchmarking tools:
If you want to test 3D Hardware, you should look for benchmarking tools that use OpenGL_ES. If you're not interested in that, you can use any benchmarking tool you want.
The reason why most cooks don't use the ati driver is that it's not the most stable driver to use in a ROM that's supposed to used daily. Imagine adding a supercharger to your Fiat Panda and risk blowing up your engine at every stop-n-go...
NeoS2007 said:
So you'll ONLY see improvements in 3D applications THAT USE OPENGL_ES_CM. (so NO improvements to TomTom, Igo, whatever nav app you use UNLESS it uses openGL)
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So Navigon 7 should improve? Theres a libGLES_CM_NoE.dll and libEGL.dll in the directory...

Video quality on HD

Is it possible to improve the quality of video on Htc HD , because its very bad what is realy surprising for me ?
Thanks ?
what u talking about?
i just use encoder from this site and i did resize 800x480 dvd for my HD and i have been stuned from quality, not just me, everybody who did watch that lol
Indeed, I use the encoder aswell and have done most of the tweaks on the forums here and the video quality is excellent now. Even good enough to watch an entire movie on it IMO, which you cant say about a lot of devices.
x-mann and antrak, which player do you guys use to get the enjoyable experience?
wat encoder u all refering to?
Just asking the same damn question
lunarken said:
wat encoder u all refering to?
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Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Projection has made a video encoder especially for the Blackstone / Diamond which combined with the memory card tweak should get you non stuttering videos!
Ok. But this is encoder program for all ready recorded videos , but it does not improve the quality of the video when you are recording it on the HD.
Or am I wrong ???
Thanks !
LMAO you're talking about recording video with the HD's camera
There are some tweaks to improve the quality a little;
- Use Mpeg4 (not H.263)
- Change one registry value: in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Taskmanager\Lite. Change "DesiredMemory" to dword: 8192 (default was 4096) (don't forget to soft reset your device).
- It's better in good lighting conditions
well to be onest...i just bought my HD 1 week before and i use default player, i tryed CORE pplayer but same movie is with worse FPS and i use it TCPMP with subtittle suport but i got low FPS again...maby i need to make some settings, as i said im new on hd, so everyone who got some suggestions to watch movies with subtittle suport im gona apriciated
this is the encoder :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
many thanx to projection giving us that encoder
for me defaulth hd player got best FPS
x-mann said:
well to be onest...i just bought my HD 1 week before and i use default player, i tryed CORE pplayer but same movie is with worse FPS and i use it TCPMP with subtittle suport but i got low FPS again...maby i need to make some settings, as i said im new on hd, so everyone who got some suggestions to watch movies with subtittle suport im gona apriciated
this is the encoder :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
many thanx to projection giving us that encoder
for me defaulth hd player got best FPS
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DUDE! The OP is talking about recording video with the onboard camera! Video encoding and playback is discussed a lot so use the search.

Free performance increase!

Hello all, and sory for my english.
Today I find one of the best apps to increase performance on rooted devices. Search on google play for "Resolution Changer".
It allowbusbto trully change the rendering resolution of our device and increase the performance in games, for example, I managed to play nova 3 with full effects (auto enabled by default) at 19:10 1024x640. The app is awesome, so, please, give it a try and support it!
Sorry again for the barbarian like english, and please, someone "translate" this to well spoked english.
Antara33 said:
Hello all, and sory for my english.
Today I find one of the best apps to increase performance on rooted devices. Search on google play for "Resolution Changer".
It allowbusbto trully change the rendering resolution of our device and increase the performance in games, for example, I managed to play nova 3 with full effects (auto enabled by default) at 19:10 1024x640. The app is awesome, so, please, give it a try and support it!
Sorry again for the barbarian like english, and please, someone "translate" this to well spoked english.
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Although the app doesn't increase performance, it does allow some games to play on certain devices.
However, thread is moved to Themes and Apps as it falls under the Apps.
MD
As far as I can see, on for example, gfx bench, setting resolution to 480x740 give me 10 fps (on screen) and with 800x1280 it give me 3.9 fps, it changes the render resolution of games and some gpu intensive ones, it really increase performance (nova 3 is the best example of this).

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