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[Q] Incred on Sprint

No, I'm not asking when/if the Incred is gonna hit Sprint.
Due to a falling out with Verizon, I'm now with Sprint, and would like to bring the $300 phone over to them (even if I would love to get my hands on an Evo). Now, considering I've never even considered taking an unlocked phone and dropping it onto another provider, I was hoping someone here in the forums may know whether or not it is possible to do so.
I mean, they're both CDMA and Sprint does use Verizon's towers...

It's not possible sadly. Not for any technical reasons, there are no issues there, but Sprint won't activate a phone's ESN number that's not in their system. The ESN contains the model number/vender/etc. Being that this phone is a VZW-exclusive, there really isn't a lot you can do... sorry =/.

DeeBG said:
It's not possible sadly. Not for any technical reasons, there are no issues there, but Sprint won't activate a phone's ESN number that's not in their system. The ESN contains the model number/vender/etc. Being that this phone is a VZW-exclusive, there really isn't a lot you can do... sorry =/.
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HTC is known for releasing phones that are better than and similar to other carriers versions, so i'd try to hold out, HTC releases phones every other month or so too. You can still use the phone as a Wifi only device atleast so its not entirely useless.
also, from the sound of it DeeBG, the ESN seems to be the same as a VIN for a car, didn't know the ESN contained all that info, i thought it was just an id like a MAC I.D. on wireless devices.
As far as them not activating the ESN, a while back they were part of the Open Handset Alliance, as was Verizon, and T-Mobile was also in there, and as far as i've read, Verizon is the only carrier that left it.
An H-SPL* unlocked HTC Touch Pro 2 with Windows Mobile from Verizon can be made to work on Sprint, its just that the 3G won't work (just to give an example)
*H-SPL is the equivelant of Root on Android, except on Windows Mobile OS

Trey_Miller said:
No, I'm not asking when/if the Incred is gonna hit Sprint.
Due to a falling out with Verizon, I'm now with Sprint, and would like to bring the $300 phone over to them (even if I would love to get my hands on an Evo). Now, considering I've never even considered taking an unlocked phone and dropping it onto another provider, I was hoping someone here in the forums may know whether or not it is possible to do so.
I mean, they're both CDMA and Sprint does use Verizon's towers...
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You're chances are about as good as Janet Reno winning a Miss America pageant. Sprint will not activate it as the MEID is not in their database nor would they even remotely entertain the idea of adding it as they can not support it if there are problems.

anything is possible but you are then on your own with no warranty or support from sprint. if you search around you can find how to do it but it is not easy and really not worth it unless you enjoy messing around with programming phones.
best bet is to ebay your INC and get an EVO on sprint. you'll probably come out ahead money wise anyway.

I say try activating it online. It wouldn't hurt to try. Can't speak for Sprint, but I've activated an old MotoQ from Sprint on Verizon's network within the last 6 months or so. So, I at least know Verizon does it. Or maybe they both carried the same phone at one point. But, trying doesn't hurt.
Edit: Comment back here when you figure it out.

[Rumor] VZW Galaxy Nexus on Sprint

So rumors have been popping up about being able to activate the VZW nexus on Sprint..
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/1...vate-verizon-galaxy-nexus-on-the-now-network/
I just went through the chat with two tech people, and a phone call with one other, here's the result:
You: I heard that Sprint is agreeing to activate the Verizon Galaxy Nexus on their network, is there any truth to that? I really want the phone but love sprint service and don't want to change providers.
Vincent K.: I am sorry, it's not possible to activate the any other provider phone in Sprint.
You: So... if I got the phone and called up with the ESN (clean) and went to activate it, they wouldn't allow me to?
You: Even if I had changed the settings on the phone
Vincent K.: Yes.
Vincent K.: The system doesn't allow to other provider phone activate in Sprint.
You: Alright
Vincent K.: Had it been possible, I would have done it for you.
You: Good to know
So I guess that really puts the rumor to rest, ey? Unless you work for Sprint or have someone that works for Sprint do it for you I don't think they will even consider it.

Shouldn't this be in the General Section seeing as this isn't Development? Mod please move.

sanchez said:
So rumors have been popping up about being able to activate the VZW nexus on Sprint..
I just went through the chat with two tech people, and a phone call with one other, here's the result:
You: I heard that Sprint is agreeing to activate the Verizon Galaxy Nexus on their network, is there any truth to that? I really want the phone but love sprint service and don't want to change providers.
Vincent K.: I am sorry, it's not possible to activate the any other provider phone in Sprint.
You: So... if I got the phone and called up with the ESN (clean) and went to activate it, they wouldn't allow me to?
You: Even if I had changed the settings on the phone
Vincent K.: Yes.
Vincent K.: The system doesn't allow to other provider phone activate in Sprint.
You: Alright
Vincent K.: Had it been possible, I would have done it for you.
You: Good to know
So I guess that really puts the rumor to rest, ey? Unless you work for Sprint or have someone that works for Sprint do it for you I don't think they will even consider it.
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Thanks for confirming what we've already known for years. Care to explain your thought process in deciding that this should be posted in the development sub-forum?

Why is this in development and I haven't heard this rumor. Seems very far fetched.
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There was a chat log that accompanied the rumor that indicated the representative was positive that it could be activated.
Given that tech, plus your chat log, I'm led to believe neither of these techs can be taken at face value. Someone needs to actually try doing it by calling Sprint or going into a store for us to get any solid indication, and even then I'm sure there are reps that won't even try and tell you that they can't, even if it's actually possible.
I actually switched from Sprint to get the Gnex. I'm a little perplexed since I'm not sure how good this phone would be stuck @ 3g speeds on Sprint.

you can swap sprint / virgin mobile phones, but you cannot swap sprint / verizon phones.
reason being is the sublock/msl programming is hard coded into each phone and not directly swappable between the 2 networks.

Sorry to the devs of the GNX Forum, just so used to posting/browsing in the Development section over at Evo3D that I hit it habitually
Thanks for moving!

I highly doubt this is going to happen.
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if the radio's where compatable then technically it couple be possible, althrough no LTE till sprint activates it late last year. Just a case of them activating it as the is no sim card in CDMA if am wrong correct me.

Well i know we used to ESN clone the xv6700 and xv6800 and swap between sprint and vzw. I know alot of guys frown at ESN cloning but all im saying is we used to do it and use them on Sprint as well as use Sprint radio softwares on the verizon phones

Galaxy Nexus on Page Plus? I want that unlimited talk/sms/1GB data for $55

I'm a brand new Galaxy Nexus owner! Actually I bought it for my girlfriend; there's no way I could give up my Note. Anyone know how to get this thing set up on Page Plus? The first thing they asked for is an ESN or MEID #, so I pulled the battery and there's only an IMEI # listed. The customer service rep said they can't do anything without an ESN or MEID; but then how does it work on Verizon? If it works with Verizon, it should work with Page Plus.
I'm starting to worry now, because I also just found a thread here where they're trying the same thing but stuck because they can't find the diagnostic menu for manual programming. Anyone know anything about that? Now that I have it in my hands, I reallllly want to get it working!!!

I like how you bought the phone and then decided to do the research on it.
And why did you decide to go for the Verizon version and go with Page Plus? You'd be better off getting the GSM version anyway and using that. There are many many many more MVNO and prepaid options if you just bought GSM. Its not like you were going to get LTE on any prepaid network anyways. Buying a Galaxy Nexus and parking it on EVDO is kinda ****ty.
That being said, looks like you're gonna have to do some research on this one. My guess is theres an issue because Verizon activates and registers phones on their network using the LTE SIM, rather than traditional CDMA methods (afaik).

Err...Verizon uses the MicroSIM. It contains an MEID number, so it can easily be attached to the network when it's plugged in.
Also, the CDMA/LTE Nexus is carrier-locked, so even if you had an MEID number it wouldn't be allowed on Page Plus' network.
Did you seriously spend $650 without even doing a minute of research?

It was a great deal I couldn't pass up: $300! (though it does have a little road rash on the bottom edge.) That's why I bought it right away without first doing the research. I'm sure I can re-sell it if I have to, but I'd really rather not.
After posting I went to About in settings and found that it does have an MEID #, which happens to be the same as the IMEI, but missing the last digit.
So there's no unlock for it yet? I assumed that it being google's Android flagship would mean almost immediate root and unlock.
Yes, I know I still have some reading to do; I just got home and immediately posted because I couldn't wait!

maxh said:
So there's no unlock for it yet? I assumed that it being google's Android flagship would mean almost immediate root and unlock.
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But its a CDMA phone... Just resell it and buy the GSM model. Save yourself the trouble.

Do you think it might help if I went by a Verizon store and got a SIM card?
martonikaj said:
But its a CDMA phone... Just resell it and buy the GSM model. Save yourself the trouble.
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I will if I have to, but I'm gonna try to make it work first. She's pretty happy with Page Plus (Verizon service) where she travels for work.

maxh said:
Do you think it might help if I went by a Verizon store and got a SIM card?
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How are you gonna convince them to do that when you have no indication whatsoever of signing a contract or using their service? lol.
And that still doesn't remove the fact that it registers on the network with the SIM, which Page Plus (in my reading) does not do, as they don't have LTE.

martonikaj said:
How are you gonna convince them to do that when you have no indication whatsoever of signing a contract or using their service? lol.
And that still doesn't remove the fact that it registers on the network with the SIM, which Page Plus (in my reading) does not do, as they don't have LTE.
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I figured I'd do some sweet talking... And maybe ask to get set up for Verizon prepaid.
So are you saying if you're in an area where Verizon hasn't yet rolled out LTE the GNexus won't fall back to CDMA or EV-DO, or whatever those non GSM people use?

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I figured I'd do some sweet talking... And maybe ask to get set up for Verizon prepaid.
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But their SIM is provisioned for their network. Not Page Plus' network. That's like saying you're going to walk into an AT&T store just to get a SIM, then try to go over to T-Mobile and use their network. That's not how it works.
So are you saying if you're in an area where Verizon hasn't yet rolled out LTE the GNexus won't fall back to CDMA or EV-DO, or whatever those non GSM people use?
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Of course it will. It does EVDO and LTE. Not everywhere has LTE yet. What I'm saying is why deal with EVDO (you'll never get LTE on Page Plus) when you could have HSPA+ with the GSM model.

martonikaj said:
But their SIM is provisioned for their network. Not Page Plus' network. That's like saying you're going to walk into an AT&T store just to get a SIM, then try to go over to T-Mobile and use their network. That's not how it works.
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Page Plus's network is Verizon's network. (though I don't think LTE is included. People on AT&T MVNOs (such as straight talk) regularly get SIM cards from AT&T stores to fix service issues...
I found these guys who claim to flash all sorts of devices including Android for Page Plus, and they have a huge Galaxy Nexus picture front and center; I contacted them and hope it's not false advertising.

maxh said:
Page Plus's network is Verizon's network. (though I don't think LTE is included. People on AT&T MVNOs (such as straight talk) regularly get SIM cards from AT&T stores to fix service issues...
I found these guys who claim to flash all sorts of devices including Android for Page Plus, and they have a huge Galaxy Nexus picture front and center; I contacted them and hope it's not false advertising.
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Yes its the same network, I'm aware of how an MVNO works... what I'm saying is Page Plus doesn't activate phones using SIM cards because it doesn't have LTE or that system in place, whereas Verizon does. Which leads to issues.
Just makes more hurdles. As I said, you're going through extra trouble to just get a EVDO-stuck Galaxy Nexus. But that's your choice...
And ouch, those guys charge $50 to flash your phone? Kinda lame...
Anyways, good luck to you.

maxh said:
It was a great deal I couldn't pass up: $300! (though it does have a little road rash on the bottom edge.) That's why I bought it right away without first doing the research.
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If you (really) ended up with a used, slightly damaged Verizon Galaxy Nexus for that price, and can't use it without signing a contract with Verizon. I say you're pretty much screwed since the price of Verizon's Galaxy Nexus just went down to $99 only.
http://wireless.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-Android-Wireless/dp/B0061R2A1S

martonikaj said:
Yes its the same network, I'm aware of how an MVNO works... what I'm saying is Page Plus doesn't activate phones using SIM cards because it doesn't have LTE or that system in place, whereas Verizon does. Which leads to issues.
Just makes more hurdles. As I said, you're going through extra trouble to just get a EVDO-stuck Galaxy Nexus. But that's your choice...
And ouch, those guys charge $50 to flash your phone? Kinda lame...
Anyways, good luck to you.
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Thank you for taking the time to comment in my thread. I started it with hopes of generating conversation that could lead to clues on overcoming the hurdles of putting the GNex on Page Plus. I don't need suggestions for other courses of action; my girlfriend is very happy with Page Plus (and the Verizon network) where she travels for work. I wanted to get her a new phone, the best one that'll work on Page Plus, and I found a smoking deal on it so I bought it.
So what it won't achieve LTE speeds; there's still many other things to like about it, and nothing else will achieve LTE on Page Plus, either. It's a perfectly good plan; not everyone's willing to pay twice as much or more just for LTE, but may still want a top notch phone.
I'll give it a week or two then sell it if nobody can figure out diagnostics mode on it, but I have high hoped.
And if it took paying $50, it'd still be dirt cheap compared to going to Verizon! You'd make that money back and then some on the first month with Page Plus instead of Verizon!

CyberPunk7t9 said:
If you (really) ended up with a used, slightly damaged Verizon Galaxy Nexus for that price, and can't use it without signing a contract with Verizon. I say you're pretty much screwed since the price of Verizon's Galaxy Nexus just went down to $99 only.
http://wireless.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-Android-Wireless/dp/B0061R2A1S
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Oh, it'd move. Looking at completed listings on Ebay and craigslist offerings, I'm pretty sure it'd be snatched up rapidly at $300. $99 is with 2-year commitment and those subsidies tend to translate to street value around $350 (i.e. that's the discount you get for signing a contract.) Anyways, I have a habit of giving old devices to friends/family.
Edit: especially with the terms/conditions Amazon puts on top of Verizon's in the contracts...
Edit 2: of course neither I nor anyone else would have to sign a Verizon contract on this phone, since the original guy who got the subsidized price did it.

Anybody know anything more about this yet?

maxh said:
Anybody know anything more about this yet?
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I highly doubt anyone is doing much research on this, since it's such a rare request. Most people will just get the GSM model, if they do not want to use Verizon.
If you have a local shop willing to do this for you, I recommend contacting them - but I wouldn't pay a cent until you've verified functionality.
Cheers

Hi!
I am doing my own research too cause I too own a Verizon Galaxy nexus, and want to get it working with my local carrier in Mexico. Still looking to get it in diagnostic mode but wit no possitive results yet. As always, there will be a solution, but as things are going until now, it could take some time to appear.
And as yomuppet says, dont pay a cent until you see the thing workin!

I'd pay the 50 bucks to get it flash by that website or another site called beige something...
Otherwise you need CDMA workshop.
Look up HTC Thunderbolt on pageplus on these forums and you'll find a video on how to do it on that fone. I image it would be similar process for the sammy

did anyone ever get this working?

I totally understand original posters issue. I like the nexus and would like to get one but I too am a happy pageplus customer and would like to see if there's a way to make it work. Lame that people can't address the issue at hand but instead try to ridicule your decision. I tried setting up the droid charge (also a 4g lte phone) on pageplus but with no success - and ended up selling it. And yes, I walked into the verizon store and asked and they just gave me a sim card. but it still wouldn't register - and I also gave them the imei #minus the last digit. Too bad... I really like the new lte phones but I haven't seen many of then work on pageplus yet. If anyone figures it out, please post it here.

[Q] dinc replacment

What's a good replacement for the dinc

Raven2m said:
What's a good replacement for the dinc
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I am waiting for the Nexus 4 to get back in stock. Going to run the BYOP Straight Talk plan on it. :good:

funny thing is that if you ask that question on a Dinc forum where people are still actively using and developing for the Dinc, the correct answer should be......another Dinc! lots of used ones on eBay for under 60$. Unlocked, Rooted, overclocked and running a better OS than Stock plus EXT4 fix makes this device still a usable device today.
but on a more serious note, me using the Dinc is tied into a couple of factors-that I am on Verizon and probably staying that way but might go to one of it;s derivatives like Pageplus Cellular. this keeps me in the CDMA/3G world for the time being so any replacement would have to be compatible.
seems like this question gets asked alot-what are some 3G VZW compatible phones out there? can you take a VZW phone and bring it to Straighttalk as easy as you can with Pageplus Cellular?

tekweezle said:
funny thing is that if you ask that question on a Dinc forum where people are still actively using and developing for the Dinc, the correct answer should be......another Dinc! lots of used ones on eBay for under 60$. Unlocked, Rooted, overclocked and running a better OS than Stock plus EXT4 fix makes this device still a usable device today.
but on a more serious note, me using the Dinc is tied into a couple of factors-that I am on Verizon and probably staying that way but might go to one of it;s derivatives like Pageplus Cellular. this keeps me in the CDMA/3G world for the time being so any replacement would have to be compatible.
seems like this question gets asked alot-what are some 3G VZW compatible phones out there? can you take a VZW phone and bring it to Straighttalk as easy as you can with Pageplus Cellular?
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I am currently on Pageplus and don't have any complaints. I have looked around for a newer CDMA phone and the prices are crazy. The Nexus 4 is the best deal I have seen but I will have to switch to Straight Talk as it is GSM only. I don't think there is an option on Straight Talk to bring your own CDMA phone.

yes, that is my understanding on Straighttalk as well-they support sprint CDMA phones with some flashing or modification but it;s not easy. They want to push everyone to GSM.
So do you have a Dinc on pageplus? how is that working? was there any complications with getting it working on their service?

tekweezle said:
yes, that is my understanding on Straighttalk as well-they support sprint CDMA phones with some flashing or modification but it;s not easy. They want to push everyone to GSM.
So do you have a Dinc on pageplus? how is that working? was there any complications with getting it working on their service?
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Pageplus has been problem free for me. The website can occasionally be a pain to deal with when purchasing more minutes is my only complaint. The Dinc was a breeze to port and everything worked without any setup. If you need any info on Pageplus, go to http://www.howardforums.com/ and look up Pageplus. They have lots of info.

I have two Dinc's on Page Plus currently, no problems at all, OTA programming was all that was needed. I've activated a bunch of phones on PP over the years, for myself and for friends, and compared to the hacking you used to have to do on 'feature phones' to get WAP access working, Dincs are super easy. I've also done a few Droid X's and a Droid X2, also with no issues. Currently, newer phones, in addition to being quite expensive, are also 4G, which makes them a pain to activate on PP and usually requires some significant hacking. Definitely do your homework before buying a 4G phone with plans of activating it on PP.

It depends on your plans. If you plan on sticking with Verizon you could go with the Samsung GS3 or the Note 2 (I think Verizon has the Note 2). If large screens aren't your thing you can go with the HTC Incredible 4G or Motorola Razer M.
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just switched my GF feature phone on Pageplus Cellular to a Dinc I bought on eBay running CM10.1. happened easier than I expected as I was able to do everything via live chat without holding forever on the phone. text messaging seems to work including notifications. have it on the TNT 1200 plan, lets see if that will work for a month.

[Q] Verizon or T-Mobile?

I've looked and looked and if I missed something, I apologize.
I'm currently on Verizon. I left T-Mobile way back when to get the Incredible and upgraded to the GNEX the day it became available. I carried over my unlimited data and now I'm just a little pissed I have to give it up (or pay full price or pay for an extra line).
I've been out of the loop for some time, but browse the forums enough to hear people complain about the CDMA phones (mostly been with the GNEX). The One is offered on Verizon and T-Mobile and now I'm able to stay and upgrade or leave and go elsewhere.
I've had and loved T-Mo before. Their service here is just as good as Verizon. I also enjoy their surf the net while you talk (mom can rambe sometimes).
But I can find a plan with either one...
Should I get away from Verizon's phones for a T-mobile. Is it easier to unlock/root/ROM? Is there more support for those things (Dev working on new updates)?
Thanks in advance. Sorry if there is something I missed.

wiredawg119 said:
I've looked and looked and if I missed something, I apologize.
I'm currently on Verizon. I left T-Mobile way back when to get the Incredible and upgraded to the GNEX the day it became available. I carried over my unlimited data and now I'm just a little pissed I have to give it up (or pay full price or pay for an extra line).
I've been out of the loop for some time, but browse the forums enough to hear people complain about the CDMA phones (mostly been with the GNEX). The One is offered on Verizon and T-Mobile and now I'm able to stay and upgrade or leave and go elsewhere.
I've had and loved T-Mo before. Their service here is just as good as Verizon. I also enjoy their surf the net while you talk (mom can rambe sometimes).
But I can find a plan with either one...
Should I get away from Verizon's phones for a T-mobile. Is it easier to unlock/root/ROM? Is there more support for those things (Dev working on new updates)?
Thanks in advance. Sorry if there is something I missed.
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The Verizon HTC One is newer and will not have root or a bootloader unlock immediately, but considering the T-Mobile HTC One has been around for months now, it most likely has a working root. If you stay with Verizon we will most likely get a root and bootloader unlock within a week or two. It's your choice. Which carrier do you prefer? Why did you pick Verizon in the first place if coverage is the same?

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The Verizon HTC One is newer and will not have root or a bootloader unlock immediately, but considering the T-Mobile HTC One has been around for months now, it most likely has a working root. If you stay with Verizon we will most likely get a root and bootloader unlock within a week or two. It's your choice. Which carrier do you prefer? Why did you pick Verizon in the first place if coverage is the same?
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I left verizon for the G1 on T-Mobile then left T-Mobile for the HTC Incredible. Since I have my eye on the One and can get it on either I wanted to know which provider (or version of phone actually) would be better,
I'm sure someone will come up with something for the Verizon version, I just wanted to know which would have more support for ROMs and such in the future. With my GNEX, it always seemed the GSM version had more and quicker updates.
I really don't prefer one over the other, but I guess I'm just upset Verizon won't let me keep my Unlimited and T-Mobile offers it still.

wiredawg119 said:
I've looked and looked and if I missed something, I apologize.
I'm currently on Verizon. I left T-Mobile way back when to get the Incredible and upgraded to the GNEX the day it became available. I carried over my unlimited data and now I'm just a little pissed I have to give it up (or pay full price or pay for an extra line).
I've been out of the loop for some time, but browse the forums enough to hear people complain about the CDMA phones (mostly been with the GNEX). The One is offered on Verizon and T-Mobile and now I'm able to stay and upgrade or leave and go elsewhere.
I've had and loved T-Mo before. Their service here is just as good as Verizon. I also enjoy their surf the net while you talk (mom can rambe sometimes).
But I can find a plan with either one...
Should I get away from Verizon's phones for a T-mobile. Is it easier to unlock/root/ROM? Is there more support for those things (Dev working on new updates)?
Thanks in advance. Sorry if there is something I missed.
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I left T-Mobile and I will NEVER go back. They offer the ability to upgrade faster because their service sucks.
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The Verizon HTC One is newer and will not have root or a bootloader unlock immediately, but considering the T-Mobile HTC One has been around for months now, it most likely has a working root. If you stay with Verizon we will most likely get a root and bootloader unlock within a week or two. It's your choice. Which carrier do you prefer? Why did you pick Verizon in the first place if coverage is the same?
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Bootloader unlock already works per dev. forum.

I tried T-Mobile and the coverage in my area was terrible and was forced to switch back to Verizon. Just be careful and really check that coverage map!

samstudent said:
I tried T-Mobile and the coverage in my area was terrible and was forced to switch back to Verizon. Just be careful and really check that coverage map!
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I know Verizon is great as far as coverage, but I know T-Mobile isn't bad in my area either.
I just really want to know if there will be developers that care about this version like I'm sure they are with the GSM version.
I am glad to see that it's unlockable (for now). That puts even more of a time crunch as I'm sure Verizon will have an OTA out there to kill that soon....

I did 2 months of t-mobile prepaid just to test our their new LTE network in my area (San Jose Bay Area, CA). I have 2 verizon lines, 1 for work and 1 for person.
Yesterday, I officially terminated my personal Verizon line and moved the number to T-Mobile. While T-Mobile's 3G/4G HSPA reception is shotty, their LTE network in San Jose is extremely solid and robust, especially considering how new it is.
Just my thoughts and opinions.

I just switched from Verizon to T Mobile, I tested it out for a week before I ported my line. T Mobile is just as fast here in Chicago and about $50 lower a month than Verizon. If you travel I would probably stick with Verizon. I just went from Chicago to NJ and had terrible to no signal through OH & PA.

I have used both carriers. In my opinion Verizon has the best coverage, but t mobile has the cheapest plan. When I was with Verizon I paid 130 a month and right know I'm only paying 70 a month for t mobile for unlimited everything.
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Every HTC phone I've had so far allowed data while on the phone. That's not unique to T-Mobile. My vzw phones (HTC) have all done it...including this ONE
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dottat said:
Every HTC phone I've had so far allowed data while on the phone. That's not unique to T-Mobile. My vzw phones (HTC) have all done it...including this ONE
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All 4g data can run while on a call regardless of carrier. 3g was limited to resound and thunderbolt on verizon
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dottat said:
Every HTC phone I've had so far allowed data while on the phone. That's not unique to T-Mobile. My vzw phones (HTC) have all done it...including this ONE
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All 4g data can run while on a call regardless of carrier. 3g was limited to resound and thunderbolt on verizon
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To be honest, I just figured this out last night as I was on hold on a call and answering emails. I remember I wasn't able to do that at one point, and never even noticed the change. The commercials come to mind of other carriers making fun of Verizon not being able to do that so I never even tried. Since at work and at home (if not on wifi) I'm usually only a 3G signal anyway if it worked I wouldn't have noticed. And I live/work in Norfolk VA which is not exactly the middle of nowhere. Maybe my GNEX just sucks...... I dont know. This is a congested area though so maybe that's why?
I went to both last night. The guy that helped me at Verizon was reason enough to quit them and never go back. The entire time I had to talk over his football game on his iPhone. Had it connected to a speaker and had it on full blast. I actually had to repeat myself numerous times... a**hole. He made it quite clear I was a nuisance to him.
I know I'm comparing two different phones and I'm sure any other radio out now will blow away whatever is on my GNEX, but speedtest on Verizon was low teens while T-Mobile was constantly over 20 on the One
I may just make the switch. If I travel I can use wifi if I don't have service. Every McDonalds and Starbucks has it, so I'm not worried (those are EVERYWHERE :laugh. and either way, I believe I'll just buy the phone outright.
I guess I still have the question of GSM vs CDMA. Since Google is pushing the updates for the GSM version, would that be the way to go?
Sorry for the stupid questions, I just don't want to make the decision to realize it was the wrong one. Other's advice is always appreciated.

buy T-Mobile. It runs same roms as universal so development will always be more. And if tmo had service as good as Verizon here, I'd be on it. It's so much cheaper.
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sebastianraven said:
Bootloader unlock already works per dev. forum.
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I'm confused between the above claim and THIS THREAD
I thought bootloader unlock was not possible (yet?) on VZW

lhuge said:
I'm confused between the above claim and THIS THREAD
I thought bootloader unlock was not possible (yet?) on VZW
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If you was one of the lucky few when the HTC one was first launched then you was able to unlock through HTC dev before Verizon issued the stop. Now if you want an unlocked bootloader you need to find a person like sonic with a java card to unlock your phone for a fee.
Now some has said there are devs who possibly found an exploit but are waiting until Verizon updates the phone to 4.3 so they can't patch the exploit right off the bat.
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Dark Jedi said:
If you was one of the lucky few when the HTC one was first launched then you was able to unlock through HTC dev before Verizon issued the stop. Now if you want an unlocked bootloader you need to find a person like sonic with a java card to unlock your phone for a fee.
Now some has said there are devs who possibly found an exploit but are waiting until Verizon updates the phone to 4.3 so they can't patch the exploit right off the bat.
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And does anyone have a decent guess at when 4.3 will be released for HTC One?

lhuge said:
I'm confused between the above claim and THIS THREAD
I thought bootloader unlock was not possible (yet?) on VZW
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I wrote that over a month ago on day one of the release.
lhuge said:
And does anyone have a decent guess at when 4.3 will be released for HTC One?
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Well, this is Verizon, so I'm guessing September of next year.

wiredawg119 said:
I've looked and looked and if I missed something, I apologize.
I'm currently on Verizon. I left T-Mobile way back when to get the Incredible and upgraded to the GNEX the day it became available. I carried over my unlimited data and now I'm just a little pissed I have to give it up (or pay full price or pay for an extra line).
I've been out of the loop for some time, but browse the forums enough to hear people complain about the CDMA phones (mostly been with the GNEX). The One is offered on Verizon and T-Mobile and now I'm able to stay and upgrade or leave and go elsewhere.
I've had and loved T-Mo before. Their service here is just as good as Verizon. I also enjoy their surf the net while you talk (mom can rambe sometimes).
But I can find a plan with either one...
Should I get away from Verizon's phones for a T-mobile. Is it easier to unlock/root/ROM? Is there more support for those things (Dev working on new updates)?
Thanks in advance. Sorry if there is something I missed.
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If your service is the same, then t-mobile is clearly the better choice. However if you plan on moving around at all, I'd be very wary of t-mobile. I too left verizon for t-mobile once and went back because Verizon had superior coverage. T-mobile was great in most areas, except where they weren't. Verizon was always good, everywhere coverage wise