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Let me understad one thing....
Is The WM5 upgrade for BA an official work from HTC?
Or is an experiment by a very smart hacker? :twisted:
Anybody knows if will be avalaible an official upgrade by O2 t-mobile or others? :?
Thanx, M
Neither. From what I've heard it's a test version from Microsoft. And it will probably never surface as a regular upgrade because it's even more buggy and need more clever fixes and workarounds then even their usual official releases...
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Neither. From what I've heard it's a test version from Microsoft. And it will probably never surface as a regular upgrade because it's even more buggy and need more clever fixes and workarounds then even their usual official releases...
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...but thanks God, we have Buzz, Mamaich, xda2jojo, toenalied and others
Yes, right! But the thing is that those guys, and we, are enthusiasts. And this is a build that probably wouldn't cut it commercially, since it's not stable enough or easy enough to get stable for Joe Sixpack and his moron friends.
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Yes, right! But the thing is that those guys, and we, are enthusiasts. And this is a build that probably wouldn't cut it commercially, since it's not stable enough or easy enough to get stable for Joe Sixpack and his moron friends.
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Anyway... anybody knows why i should upgrade?
I use the BA for my job... I'd like to have the new WM5 but I don't know if is a good thing to upgrade....
Thanx, M.
If you're dependent on it for your job, and you're not experienced with computers and PPCs, and especially if you can't live with a few annoyances for a while, you should not do it.
I didn't hesitate to install it.
I was a tiny bit worried about turning my phone into an expensive brick, but it was remarkably easy to install WM5 on my BA. Took me about half an hour (most of that being flashing time).
Works fine, all the patches installed so I've got my camera back up and backlight.
Really, sterling work!
buggy???no doubt but all the roms are not perpect...even the PC windows...nevertheless...i love it...
hello guys.
i'm pretty sure it will come out comercial.
sure it's buggy has hell right now, that's why it's a early beta version.
but has you all know, there's microsoft people watching everything, so all the fixes and patches made by our members here at xda-developers are surelly being implemented into the next beta version.
don't think that beta versions are leaked for no reason :wink:
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buggy???no doubt but all the roms are not perpect...even the PC windows...nevertheless...i love it...
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To All here discussing this:
I am a big fan of windows based phones/PDAs.In my 10 yrs of cell phone usage time, I have used Nokia(Symbian 60/80/90) SE(UIQ), Mototrola(UIQ) Ipaq 6365 etc etc....But I am noe wandering around HTC Devices, 2/2i/2s/Magician....I hv kept all the three devices and XDA2/BA are with WM 5.AND I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT WM 5 Rocks....With WM 5, battry life has increased,clarity is increased...device has become more stable....All of you might hv come across so many threads of soft resetting the devices...but with WM5 no such problems...no one way sound problems...BT Head sets work flawlessly..and more...data is not lost...
I think there too much problems yet to upgrade... on WM5...
Ciao, M.
Really? I have found it much LESS buggey than any of the WM2003 roms around!
Yes its dose have some issues but it is a Microsoft product after all! If it didnt have any issues I think I would drop dead in shock!
As its for OEMs and mobile networks and going by how well it works (with the legendary Mamaich's patches its very nearly perfect) I'd say that would be very close to how would be if it was officially released...
The bugs have nothing to do with the fact that it is a Micro$oft's product. That's a misconception that's been generated through the rise of Linux and stuff. I use all different types of Software and OSs and not a single one is bugs free. Even Switches and Routers are full of bugs and they're not made my MS.
The fact of the matter is, programmers are only humans and will always make mistakes and learn from it. Thats all programming is about. Making crazy mistakes to mess with the world and then get it fixed later disaster has struck.
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Really? I have found it much LESS buggey than any of the WM2003 roms around!
Yes its dose have some issues but it is a Microsoft product after all! If it didnt have any issues I think I would drop dead in shock!
As its for OEMs and mobile networks and going by how well it works (with the legendary Mamaich's patches its very nearly perfect) I'd say that would be very close to how would be if it was officially released...
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here's some food for toughts...
The First Windows Mobile 5.0 Device
and this one for the interested
Windows Mobile 5.0 Developer Evaluation Kit
seems pretty oficial to me :wink:
what they meant to say was that there is no official rom for WM5.0 for the BA. yes, WM5.0 has been officially released but mobile OSs are not like PC OSs that you can just grab an installer and plunk it in. due to the tight nature of its integration with the hardware, it is up to your hardware manufacturer to build you a rom that can work with your device.
the unofficial WM5.0 rom means that at least HTC is monkeying with the idea of putting it out there, but it will ultimately be up to the resellers (ie O2 and whatnot) to provide you with an official rom. personally, i hope HTC releases an official rom independent of the resellers.
i am no expert
But I would indeed say that thanks to all on here we will end up with a more stable version of wm5 than will end up being released by the powers that be.
The reason,
Mamaich, buzzlightyear, xdamojo, the lastone and all the others (and yes there are to many to mention, some in just smaller ways but i bet they are a great help to those who do the bulk of the work)
These guys use the devices all day everyday and know the blueangel inside and out (literaly).
Lets be honest, have any previous versions been bug free or anywhere near. Give these guys the stuff to work with and they will get there, but I am sure this is not an overnight process.
We should all take our hats off to them and for those who moan, dont bother upgrading and wait as buzz would say "too infinity and beyond"
For official releases
from all of us who have benefited
CHEERS GUYS :wink:
stay happy
magpie2000k
Hi All,
I see a lot of people testing this and that, and everyday we seem to have 10000 new roms with extra functionalities, which is a great thing, but makes a little bit skeptical.
I have installed a wm6 rom some time ago, so far no bigger problems with it, the question that i want to make and i am sure that someone has already thought of this, is it really worth to upgrade to wm6?
Is wm6 more stable that wm5?
Is wm6 faster than wm5?
Is the software so much better?
What is your opinion guys?
Thanks!!
GO WM6.
998 solved bugs as said by Microsoft. This should be the first reason.
After that you have new graphics, powerful outlook which supports attachments and html messages and last but not last you can use touch flo or the hew htc home plug
998 solved bugs and 1000 introduced bugs?
imho, no it's not really worth upgrading
no it's not more stable
it might be slightly faster, but i can't tell
software aren't better, in fact, using same software may induce bugs that you don't see with WM5...
Touch flo don't work well with trinity
htc home plug is good. Does look really cool I have to say, and is probably the only reason why I'm still using WM6...
Once again, I stress that these are purely my experience, I've really only tried each WM6 rom for a week before it piss me off too much that i have to go back to WM5...
Well maybe I need a different rom for Wm6 ... I cant use no internet application unless im connected to my computer . Well some work thru wifi but others dead . And even the instant messengers dont work. I installed tmobiles oz and it only works if im plugged into my machine via activesync .. Im looking for a differnt rom and then ill update you folks . Oh the rom im using ... XDA Mobile 6.0.0
This is the reason why i question this upgrade.
I know its a super job all the cookers have done so far, but the overall use of the wm6 is still a little bit overrated.
I see a lot of people missing this and that, and while its true that wm6 fixed some bugs, its also true that it introduced some, while other are due to our rom cooking attempts.
to be honest i have not seen anything so must have for wm6, better office is a nice thing, but i have seen it already somewhere the install cabs, so one point down.
Touch flo? I have seen better implementations when this iPhone crazy mania was around. and we only had wm5 at the time.
lmbranco said:
This is the reason why i question this upgrade.
I know its a super job all the cookers have done so far, but the overall use of the wm6 is still a little bit overrated.
I see a lot of people missing this and that, and while its true that wm6 fixed some bugs, its also true that it introduced some, while other are due to our rom cooking attempts.
to be honest i have not seen anything so must have for wm6, better office is a nice thing, but i have seen it already somewhere the install cabs, so one point down.
Touch flo? I have seen better implementations when this iPhone crazy mania was around. and we only had wm5 at the time.
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HAVE YOU TRIED IT YET ? mAYBE TRYING IT MAY CHANGE YOUR PROSPECTIVE.
OPPS CAPS .. SORRY WAS WORKING AND READING NOT YELLING ... !!!!!
WM6 is only worth it if you have already upgraded (as in, its not worth downgrading to WM5 when you have already made the jump) but I agree with others that WM6 is not really worth upgrading to. A lot of programs dont work properly and they wont for many months as the small software companies (eg. spb) catch up.
WM6 removes the NEW button from the SMS page, and replaces it with DELETE of all things. This sad reality is a metaphor for other idiotic shortcomings which make all the barely noticeable "graphical upgrades" in WM6 even weaker in comparison.
This is really the point of this discussion, its not a question of it looks nicer or has more or less buttons, the real question is if it really brings added bonus to the overall experience.
I am using WM6 for 3 months already, and to be honest, i don't see any real added value in the user experience. I feel that what we really need is some kind of changed ui that makes it all easier for the user to work with the mobile.
TouchFlo has some nice concepts, iPhone also, but i think that something even better can be done by the companies, and wm6 does not do much to help us in this direction.
Do you guys agree or disagree with me?
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WM6 removes the NEW button from the SMS page, and replaces it with DELETE of all things. This sad reality is a metaphor for other idiotic shortcomings which make all the barely noticeable "graphical upgrades" in WM6 even weaker in comparison.
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All true, the thing is if the button would have been a "delete" button in WM5 and previous versions this would have not been a problem.
I think it is great to have new buttons on places you would not expect them, it keeps us from transforming into brainless zombies.
No seriously, I agree, it's annoying. But hey, it's the way it is, and after deleting some sms, I'm getting used to/by it.
Furthermore, I like HTC WM6 (Dopod Australian) with the standard Windows Live today plugin. That alone would be a reason for me to upgrade.
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HAVE YOU TRIED IT YET ? mAYBE TRYING IT MAY CHANGE YOUR PROSPECTIVE.
OPPS CAPS .. SORRY WAS WORKING AND READING NOT YELLING ... !!!!!
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I have tried it, and it even works correctly, however its not a good implementation of a good gui. And we both know its slow and buggy, and it does not work 100% as it should.
I like the way the buttons are shown in Spb Mobile Shell, but i still think that the main tools are not so user friendly and are too much pen dependent.
P.S. No harm done with the caps ;-)
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I have tried it, and it even works correctly, however its not a good implementation of a good gui. And we both know its slow and buggy, and it does not work 100% as it should.
I like the way the buttons are shown in Spb Mobile Shell, but i still think that the main tools are not so user friendly and are too much pen dependent.
P.S. No harm done with the caps ;-)
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Well it does what it does for a freeware . Now we are working on a better one maybe you can give a hand mate .
The only reason I wanted it was for HTML email.
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The only reason I wanted it was for HTML email.
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So you have it ... .... So have you found anything to suit you better ?
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/new...-windows-mobile-7-try-windows-mobile-6-5.html
Second half of 2009 is definitely a ways off..
cirial said:
Second half of 2009 is definitely a ways off..
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Cool, can't wait to cook roms with it!!! and YES I'll be around then!
cirial said:
Second half of 2009 is definitely a ways off..
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It needn't be that late for 6.5 ROMs to start appearing here, need it? Going by version 6 experiences, we could expect to see the 6.5 ROMs as early as this year. Hermes support is an unknown though.
kernelguy
MUT%$ Fu&%$!!!!!!!
HAhahahahaha i was exited.... sorry... but without screenshots it becames like the WM7 Toughts hahaha.... we all spect not to have the enhaced oS with 3D processor like the new Diamond hardware....
Hope its not and can be cooked to hermes....
I dont know if i want to believe this or not...
Will the Hermes be ready for WM7???
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Will the Hermes be ready for WM7???
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try one of these roms with manilla and you'll know... hermes is such a great pda but its resources are very limited and microsoft has tradition in releasing new systems that like to eat a big slice of memory. let's see.
there's always a possibility that this is just speculation. apple os for the iphone is a big deal when it comes to finger friendly apps, so is google android and microsoft knows that all... and let's not forget that nokia is also about to release their iphone-like handset running a touchscreen version of their Symbian OS which the market's been waiting for a long time. microsoft needs to react really fast, i think that 'second half of 2009' would be way too late.
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Will the Hermes be ready for WM7???
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Depends on how flashy they make it. My old HTC Typhoon that came with WM2003SE runs WM6.1 just fine right now. But if MS starts relying heavily on graphics processing, 2D or 3D, most older devices won't be able to handle it.
Yea your probably right.
But I think in 2009 I can buy a new telephone then
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Will the Hermes be ready for WM7???
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No, because WM7 is built on WinCE 6.0, Hermes runs WinCE 5.0.
i really do not know if our Hermes will fit the WM6.5
i'd like to think that by the time wm6.5 and wm7 rolls around, most of us will have replaced the hermes with somn newer from HTC+nvidia's tegra600 or better GPUs
http://www.nvidia.com/page/handheld.html
i can't wait til what kinds of neat things xda devs. can do with a fully powered GPU and lots more room to do it with. i'm always amazed what xda devs. can do with hermes platform already =P.
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i'd like to think that by the time wm6.5 and wm7 rolls around, most of us will have replaced the hermes with somn newer from HTC+nvidia's tegra600 or better GPUs
can do with a fully powered GPU and lots more room to do it with. i'm always amazed what xda devs. can do with hermes platform already =P.
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yes, nvidia's tegra600 is good future stuff! Are U sure HTC is working with nvidia tegra600?
what needs to happen
I would never say that wm 6.5 or 7 can't run on the hermes, odds are it will be so memory heavy that it will not have much free program memory to run.
having said that, I still have a mpx200 in the drawer that I mess with every now and then, it started with wm2002, then went through the os's all the way up to wm6.1 after someone figured out how to use the storage card for the os to run.
My guess is that it would take someone figuring out how to load the os (or most of it) onto the card and run the programs (or most of them) from the card so that the program memory could run the device. (here is where the nonbelievers say things about how the sdcard tranfer rate is not fast enough to run programs or how the hermes prossesor is not made for the os...blah...blah...blah) all I can say is tell your naysaying to my mpx200
and for those who say get a better device, ah, were not talking about launching the shuttle here, it's a ppc, 400mhz is plenty to keep the hermes a very usable device for the average user for a long time.
The point is not will I use it, but could I use it and with the right developers, I am very confident I could and will.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1653
supposed screenshots of 6.5.
if you look at the icons some of them are imac icons. Its not a real shot of it.
I dont know but
watch at your help app icon (lifesaver) comes from the Linux OS
so maybe is maybe isn't the only thing we can spect is the release date... and maybe neither that.
Screenshots says nothing....i can put an iphone skin on my hermes....
i'm not 100% sure these screenshots are fake but one thing i must say is that they do look a lot like the Zune interface which would definitely be a good market strategy for microsoft to put all their mobile experiences with a similar look.
zune is a great music player and its market share's been growing rapidly it would be a quite smart move from microsoft to get everything in the family.
I upgraded my recent TP2 from 6.1 (Orange stock ROM) to the HTC official 6.5 after having upgraded SPL as kindly explained on the XDA sticky post. The upgrade worked pretty fine, great.
Then I got a bad feeling I could not explain at first sight, playing with my new 6.5. Kind of slower, not as reactive. I got confirmed in that feeling looking a the memory usage. I was consistently around 45% with 6.1 after having open / closed applications, and 6.5 was loading the phone at more than 70%, although I disabled direct push and played other tricks as provided by this nice forum. I am having a professional and intensive usage of my phones, this was hard to stand.
I was not able to firmly consider that I had got a much better experience with 6.1 given that I played few hours with it before upgrading to 6.5. But I was reminding a somehow much reactive environment.
I was anyhow reluctant to go back to 6.1 given all the modifications brought to the registry - that were triggering the functions I was looking for (that's one of the nice aspect of the TP2). Yesterday, I found the "Y" letter of the keyboard becoming really hard, I had to push so strongly that it was abnormal ; for sure the keyboard is defective.
From this point I decided to return under warranty. I reinstalled the stock 6.1 Orange ROM, and relocked the phone so that I could ship it back.
Guess what : I was then facing a USABLE phone, reactive, no latency, etc ...
I am convinced that for an intensive usage, and when once cannot stand to take nerves waiting for menus to pop up or down when performing an operation as simple as trying to place a call, 6.1 is definitely the best and natural fit with the TP2 engine !
Then I understand that it's fun to have some tries with newer versions of the OS, but I would not recommend it for people already stressed with their job, needing a tool instantly reacting to various actions.
Other than that, a big thanks for this forum, that's a phenomenally productive place. Keep it up !
PS - I will get my replacement TP2 in few days, and will keep with the stock ROM
Disagree
Welcome to forums
Shame to hear your experience eas not good.
On my experience leaving stock 6.1 ROM and moved to 6.5.1 was great!
More finger friendly, much better UI graphics, for mention some good points.
Of course at a cost of RAM, but hey beauty has it´s price
And we have a lot of RAM, so let´s use it
WM 6.5
I had also trouble with the new Windows mobile 6.5
With vers. 6.1 I had no difficulties in doing a VPN-Connection to my office. It was possivle to sync contacts, mails, dates and tasks.
After upgrading to wim 6.5 contacting over VPN doesn't work. The TP2 announced that there was a difficulty in device.exe. Within 3 days we cannot contact our office.
Result: Downgrade to 6.1 an all problems are solvend.
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Welcome to forums
Shame to hear your experience eas not good.
On my experience leaving stock 6.1 ROM and moved to 6.5.1 was great!
More finger friendly, much better UI graphics, for mention some good points.
Of course at a cost of RAM, but hey beauty has it´s price
And we have a lot of RAM, so let´s use it
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I second that!
phd38 said:
I upgraded my recent TP2 from 6.1 (Orange stock ROM) to the HTC official 6.5 after having upgraded SPL as kindly explained on the XDA sticky post. The upgrade worked pretty fine, great.
Then I got a bad feeling I could not explain at first sight, playing with my new 6.5. Kind of slower, not as reactive. I got confirmed in that feeling looking a the memory usage. I was consistently around 45% with 6.1 after having open / closed applications, and 6.5 was loading the phone at more than 70%, although I disabled direct push and played other tricks as provided by this nice forum. I am having a professional and intensive usage of my phones, this was hard to stand.
I was not able to firmly consider that I had got a much better experience with 6.1 given that I played few hours with it before upgrading to 6.5. But I was reminding a somehow much reactive environment.
I was anyhow reluctant to go back to 6.1 given all the modifications brought to the registry - that were triggering the functions I was looking for (that's one of the nice aspect of the TP2). Yesterday, I found the "Y" letter of the keyboard becoming really hard, I had to push so strongly that it was abnormal ; for sure the keyboard is defective.
From this point I decided to return under warranty. I reinstalled the stock 6.1 Orange ROM, and relocked the phone so that I could ship it back.
Guess what : I was then facing a USABLE phone, reactive, no latency, etc ...
I am convinced that for an intensive usage, and when once cannot stand to take nerves waiting for menus to pop up or down when performing an operation as simple as trying to place a call, 6.1 is definitely the best and natural fit with the TP2 engine !
Then I understand that it's fun to have some tries with newer versions of the OS, but I would not recommend it for people already stressed with their job, needing a tool instantly reacting to various actions.
Other than that, a big thanks for this forum, that's a phenomenally productive place. Keep it up !
PS - I will get my replacement TP2 in few days, and will keep with the stock ROM
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Hi, can you send me a download link for download ORANGE stock rom? And how to relock the device? i have no problem for the moment. It's just in case.
TY
The Orange ROM is available publicly on the HTC site.
To relock the phone : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
@phd32
2 words of advice. DUMP STOCK!
Stock ROMs / Official ROMS suck. Just give the NRG ROMs a try. You will be pleasantly surprised.
Build 21xxx is WM 6.5
Build 23xxx are all WM 6.5.1 with the Start Menu below and bigger finger friendly buttons.
If you are going to give NRGz 21xxx build a shot, look for the OCT28th release of the same. That is his best work on the 21xxx builds.
Others can comment about 23xxx.
I just installed EnergyROM_21864_RHODIUM_08.Nov.2009_Standard.rar
And yes, I admit that the performance of this cooked ROM is much better than the official from HTC. With eventually a better experience due to enhanced graphics amd "touch friendlier" (?) interface. Why the hell those big companies do not release something in parity ??? Hard to understand, frankly.
A simple question : my TP2 came with an AZERTY keyboard. And the mapping coming with this ROM is QUWERTY. How to trick it ?
There's no way it could be worse than TMOUS 6.1 stock.
Interesting read, though flawed. Having 45% memory usage vs 70% memory usage will NOT affect your devices speed. This is a myth that badly needs to be dispelled. The only time you will get a slowdown is when you run out of memory (i.e., 100%), and even then, your phone will automatically reclaim memory for you. Anyhow, 6.5 is way faster than 6.1, however, manila always slows things down (so don't judge the speed of your deviice by a) your perceptions, and b) manila.
phd38 said:
The Orange ROM is available publicly on the HTC site.
To relock the phone : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
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Sorry but I don't find the orange Rom on HTC site. Can you send me a link please?
ok for me
http://www.htc.com/fr/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=250&cat=2&dl_id=689
i installed an official 6.5 rom too but then i received a device.exe error... how can i fix this
mujahid98 said:
i installed an official 6.5 rom too but then i received a device.exe error... how can i fix this
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EnergyROM seems to be one of the better 6.5 ROM's. Otherwise... I'm not sure what you can do, sorry. Never ran the stock ROM.
Im done guys with Wm my Hd2 is up for sale no update for hardware that can run Wp7 they can have wp7 my hd2 is up for sale and i just picked up my new Nexus one just flashed the new HTC Desire Rom running at 1.3GHZ Im happy Hello Android mabey next time WM mabey next time
Maybe next time, punctuation. Maybe next time...
Personally, I'm in the 'Buy a phone for what it can do now, not what I hope it might be able to do in the future' school of thought.
Sure, no WP7 is a disappointment, but if you own an HD2 (as I did for a while), you got what was being promised. For me, it was the lack of a keyboard that made me get a TP2, but the HD2 is still one helluva phone.
No announcement has been made. I'm gonna laugh if the HD2 ends up getting an update.
bye bye cry baby, i swear you guys crack me up. how can you be upset when you bought the phone without anything being announced if you bought it because YOU THOUGHT it was getting an update thats your own fault, ms didnt tell you ANYTHING. and the hd2 is gonna have wp7s soon enough, maybe not officially but who cares, custom roms>>>>>>official roms
I would be glad to take your HTC HD2 off your hands
The forum would be way better without such threads. But on the flip side it's funny to see how stupid some people are (sorry but it's the truth)
RAMMANN said:
The forum would be way better without such threads. But on the flip side it's funny to see how stupid some people are (sorry but it's the truth)
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Indeed. Im mad they are not releasing Iphone OS to my HD2.
(eventually the chefs will be making a version for the HD2, so come on.)
kel16harris said:
bye bye cry baby, i swear you guys crack me up. how can you be upset when you bought the phone without anything being announced if you bought it because YOU THOUGHT it was getting an update thats your own fault, ms didnt tell you ANYTHING. and the hd2 is gonna have wp7s soon enough, maybe not officially but who cares, custom roms>>>>>>official roms
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It's not so much the lack of an upgrade that's the problem, it's the combination of that plus WP7 being incompatible with Windows Mobile software. That's one thing nobody was predicting a few months ago, and it means that there is no longer any reason for a commercial software company to continue working on any Windows Mobile project - see, for example, Adobe's decision to scrap FlashPlayer on WinMo.
To say "your phone won't get an OS upgrade" is one thing, but to say "your phone won't get an upgrade, and incidentally we also neglected to mention that your phone's current OS would cease to be a viable platform for commercial software about three months after you buy it" is something else.
And it is not by any means certain that there will be custom ROMs based on WP7.
leeuwtjevanjuda said:
Indeed. Im mad they are not releasing Iphone OS to my HD2.
(eventually the chefs will be making a version for the HD2, so come on.)
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I doubt it. The reason chefs have been able to make WM6.5 for older devices is because it is still based off of the same kernel as 5.0-6.1. If you are familiar with cooking ROMs for older devices, you would realize that we are still using 6.0 drivers on all of these 6.5 ROMs. Once the kernel changes, however, those drivers will most-likely be useless.
And yeah, buying the HD2 probably wasn't the best idea.
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I doubt it. The reason chefs have been able to make WM6.5 for older devices is because it is still based off of the same kernel as 5.0-6.1. If you are familiar with cooking ROMs for older devices, you would realize that we are still using 6.0 drivers on all of these 6.5 ROMs. Once the kernel changes, however, those drivers will most-likely be useless.
And yeah, buying the HD2 probably wasn't the best idea.
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It's also possible to run 6.5 on the Himalaya, which is originally based on PPC 2003 = different wince kernel.
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It's also possible to run 6.5 on the Himalaya, which is originally based on PPC 2003 = different wince kernel.
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But the Himalaya still got WM5, so that still means it got WinCE 5.2 kernel one way or another. Once it got a 5.2 kernel, it can run anything from WM5 all the way up to WM6.5.x
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
But the Himalaya still got WM5, so that still means it got WinCE 5.2 kernel one way or another. Once it got a 5.2 kernel, it can run anything from WM5 all the way up to WM6.5.x
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alright that finally explains it. Didn't know they got an official WM5 release.
The HTC HD2 is an impressive device even without WP7 As for upgrading it, there will be a debate but, they will chose to release a HD3 instead. Feel free to sign the petition though,lol http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/hd2windowsphone7/
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=5475&tag=content;col1
I'm quite on the contrary
Ironically a handful of days ago I made similar decision. Except for that I was really, really pissed off by Android and decided to switch back to WinMo. So I got a HD2.
Now I'm (again) having:
- The capability to play almost every media format on my phone
- *REAL* GPS navigation suites
- Serious, polished, and visually attractive games, by lots
- Proper tool to manage my personal (2 of them) and business mail accounts, with attachment, reply record and everything
- Excellent applications to read *AND EDIT* Word and Excel files. It's vital to have this as a translator who frequently has to work on-the-go.
- PDB, PRC, CHM, LIT, TXT, RTF, DOC, DOCX, HTML, PDF in short, whatever document format I may need to read. And the tools to do this are generally extremely polished
- The freedom of setting the phone on true mute mode once and for all, unlike on certain idiot OS where you set the thing on mute, all system notifications get silenced, while everything else from media player to games continue to sing how ever loud it likes
And what I no long have:
- Don't have to pick from a thousand not so different but frequently buggy cooked ROMs
- Don't have to flash my phone like once per week to keep up with new version of cooked ROM franchise
- Don't have to comb through 10K apps, filter 90% of them (crapware swarm), and pray "God give me some actually useful app please, amen"
Anyway, I'm not sure why so many people chanting around "Android is much, much by the outdated WinMo". I believe that the value of a smartphone is reflected by what it can achieve. WinMo so far is still much better than Android on satisfying my professional and entertainment needs. Yep its UI is no match for Android's (at least less colorful). But I can't care less about that. Beautiful or not, get the job done first.
As to WP7 update. Well, I'm having great faith on XDA. Even if Microsoft and HTC decide to screw HD2 owners big time, chances are pretty good the magnificent young men (and women) here can make an unofficial update happen. It doesn't really matter for me if this is not happening. Right now I'm having everything I need already, and I'm happy. WP7 is only a plus.
it's so true ....
chassit said:
Ironically a handful of days ago I made similar decision. Except for that I was really, really pissed off by Android and decided to switch back to WinMo. So I got a HD2.
Now I'm (again) having:
- The capability to play almost every media format on my phone
- *REAL* GPS navigation suites
- Serious, polished, and visually attractive games, by lots
- Proper tool to manage my personal (2 of them) and business mail accounts, with attachment, reply record and everything
- Excellent applications to read *AND EDIT* Word and Excel files. It's vital to have this as a translator who frequently has to work on-the-go.
- PDB, PRC, CHM, LIT, TXT, RTF, DOC, DOCX, HTML, PDF in short, whatever document format I may need to read. And the tools to do this are generally extremely polished
- The freedom of setting the phone on true mute mode once and for all, unlike on certain idiot OS where you set the thing on mute, all system notifications get silenced, while everything else from media player to games continue to sing how ever loud it likes
And what I no long have:
- Don't have to pick from a thousand not so different but frequently buggy cooked ROMs
- Don't have to flash my phone like once per week to keep up with new version of cooked ROM franchise
- Don't have to comb through 10K apps, filter 90% of them (crapware swarm), and pray "God give me some actually useful app please, amen"
Anyway, I'm not sure why so many people chanting around "Android is much, much by the outdated WinMo". I believe that the value of a smartphone is reflected by what it can achieve. WinMo so far is still much better than Android on satisfying my professional and entertainment needs. Yep its UI is no match for Android's (at least less colorful). But I can't care less about that. Beautiful or not, get the job done first.
As to WP7 update. Well, I'm having great faith on XDA. Even if Microsoft and HTC decide to screw HD2 owners big time, chances are pretty good the magnificent young men (and women) here can make an unofficial update happen. It doesn't really matter for me if this is not happening. Right now I'm having everything I need already, and I'm happy. WP7 is only a plus.
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That’s what comes to my mind when I think Windows Mobile vs. Android
Actually I really don't care if Windows Phone 7 doesn’t get an "official" release for HD2.... Its current state is a "Solid Windows Mobile 6.5 PocketPC" which is exactly what was intended for it to be.
enjoy your little crappy java machine LOL that'll show em.
nucentury08 said:
Im done guys with Wm my Hd2 is up for sale no update for hardware that can run Wp7 they can have wp7 my hd2 is up for sale and i just picked up my new Nexus one just flashed the new HTC Desire Rom running at 1.3GHZ Im happy Hello Android mabey next time WM mabey next time
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"mabey" go to school and learn to spell next time? Just as a suggestion..
For Sale
My Xperia X1 is for sale as I have found out that it won't run Windows Mobile Phone 8.1 Service Pack 3 Turbo Edition. Im also going to buy a Nexus One as it has a better chance of running Windows Mobile Phone 8.1 Service Pack 3 Turbo Edition first! LOL
leba837 said:
My Xperia X1 is for sale as I have found out that it won't run Windows Mobile Phone 8.1 Service Pack 3 Turbo Edition. Im also going to buy a Nexus One as it has a better chance of running Windows Mobile Phone 8.1 Service Pack 3 Turbo Edition first! LOL
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I PM'd you with my offer