HD VS Pre - Touch HD Themes and Apps

I just got back from the store, playing with the Palm Pre.
Wow great phone! made my HD feel old. The internet on it is amazing.
Thinking about getting one.

So what do you want to hear right now? Looking at the Pre I think that it looks quite odd, but maybe I'm just not a fan of Palm at all .
Its display is smaller than the one of the HD, so I can't imagine that the browsing experience is better ...
Why do you think that your HD is old, compared to the Pre?

people in the blackstone-forum have buy a blackstone and love this little item i think they all say good night to the touch hd when they go to bed.... i do it "i wish you good night little sweet touch hd"
i dont say good night to a stranger palm

acidd said:
people in the blackstone-forum have buy a blackstone and love this little item i think they all say good night to the touch hd when they go to bed.... i do it "i wish you good night little sweet touch hd"
i dont say good night to a stranger palm
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Lol! This made me laugh, thank you! You said it exactly right, I love my Blackstone. The two palms I owned were never given half the respect I give my HD. I personally will never by a palm again.

I saw a video review of the palm pre on youtube and it looks nice but im not giving up my hd for it. I think the hd has a bigger screen than the palm pre

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people in the blackstone-forum have buy a blackstone and love this little item i think they all say good night to the touch hd when they go to bed.... i do it "i wish you good night little sweet touch hd"
i dont say good night to a stranger palm
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Ha, yea that was really funny

i dont know if its just me but watching the video on the pre on youtube, it seemed to function ALOT slower(not from specs, just observation), specs wise it seems like the hd is abit better, resolution? camera?
although the lil keyboard looks nice!

hd is hd rest of all ****** (sensor)
no matter whatever comes out but you need something really stronger to beat blackstone. only 1 positive thing i have seen in pre is multitouch, screen and model is ****.
the day our developer backs them up for
http://www.whitevoid.com/portfolio.html
sort of interface and
http://www.tat.se
hd is in sky high
i wish if anyone of developer is going through out my comment i wish if they watch and go according to those website..

HD, only HD ^^
D'rath

Funny
I did this post as a test to see what people would say.
Killer funny!
HD True DAT

kevinniven said:
I did this post as a test to see what people would say.
Killer funny!
HD True DAT
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Right now I must say HD is still the Windows Phone to BEAT hands down. There are too many things you can do with this baby.

Well as i wrote in another thread about the new Iphone i won't change my HD for anything that is "slightly" better .Palm has a nice little keyboard and that's the only advantage in my opinion it's all about the screen for me sorry but that's the way it is "bigger is better" and that's final .Even with 1240x1024 resolution if it's only 2 inches big it's crap.I'll prefer the HD over any device on the market now only people who have it understand that it is a masterpiece and the little bugs and flaws that it has only make it more interesting to play with

acidd said:
people in the blackstone-forum have buy a blackstone and love this little item i think they all say good night to the touch hd when they go to bed.... i do it "i wish you good night little sweet touch hd"
i dont say good night to a stranger palm
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verry funny
from my opinion blackstone it's the very best design ever with his large screen

andes83 said:
Even with 1240x1024 resolution if it's only 2 inches big it's crap.I'll prefer the HD over any device on the market now only people who have it understand that it is a masterpiece and the little bugs and flaws that it has only make it more interesting to play with
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Agreed... coming from an X1 to an HD I can wholly say that hi-res on a tiny screen = pointless.
This reason is also precisely why the iPhone (and Pre) aren't worth it if you want to use your phone for web surfing - the lower screen resolution + size means more time spent zooming in and out of webpages and squinting at a the tiny text on a (relatively) tiny screen... no thanks!
Not interested in any other (non-windows mobile) phone until I can pair up both a bluetooth keyboard and mouse with it (iGo keyboard + mouse ftw )
Now if they would just squeeze more memory (512mb pls!) and a faster processor (Snapdragon? Tegra?) into the same body as a HD then I'm sold

I also went from a X1 to a HD! BIIIIG difference!
BUUUUT - I'm a big Plm fan - will at least get a Palm Pre to play with for a while!
Here's hoping the 3rd Palm WebOS device is a iPhone/HD type big touchscreen device, with or without a keyboard but with 800x480 screen!

The only thing the Palm Pre has that I want is Wireless Charging!

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Touch pro 2 vs. Superstar

I read a little about the htc super star, so which do you think for better?
For starters I tryed to dig up a little information and found(I think all this stuff was leaked so im not sure how acurate it is now cause the superstar isnt even on htx wordwide website yet):
Touch pro 2:
528 MHz processor[288 MB of RAM
Ships with WM 6.1 but has can be upgraded to 6.5 when it comes out
full qwerty keyboard and it tilts too ]
3.6 inch WVGA touch screen
Confirmed to exist lol
Superstar
600 MHz processor
256 MB RAM
ships with WM 6.5
full qwerty keyboard
3.7 inch WVGA touch screen
I dont think it's been confirmed yet
Plus I think the processor are made by different companies, and I found all this stuff simply by Googling so I hope this is convenient but I cannot confirm all this is accurate, especially for the superstar but feel free to add info in comments, and of coarse, tell which one you think is better.
I will start the discussion by stating my opionion, and thats that the touch pro 2 is better cause it has more ram a tilting keyboard, and a zoom bar and looks way better, so with that, let the discussion begin! lol
Hope superstar have a face soon...I can wait a year more to upgrade to something REAL good
"The Superstar however is the real mystery, and the only device which can not be identified from the known specs. The Nvidia AP16 chipset is likely referring to nVidia APX Tegra platform, which I am sure it very encouraging news to us enthusiasts disappointed by Qualcomm. The 3.7 inch WVGA screen near guarantees a media-focused device, which is something I think very many of us are waiting for.
See FuzeMobility for more info."
Here more info from the first thread on the theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495830
Superstar sounds nice. I hope it does use nVidia!
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Superstar sounds nice. I hope it does use nVidia!
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but what is the main difference in the processor, its only 72 MHz more so what the touch pro 2 has a tiliting screen and a full qwerty keyboard and a zoom bar and dual speakers and dual mics, now thats awesome
The superstar is a completely different processor class and should be much much faster (don't just compare the rated speed). Like going from 486 to 586 in the PC world. The Tegra chipset is also 1080P video capable and there are many other goodies with a mean integrated graphics processor. The Pro 2 is good, but hardware that has been around for quite a while.
In that case then you got me salivating. However, I really doubt this thing comes to Sprint here in the states. If they bring out the TP2 Q3 of 09, why would they follow it up so quickly with this? I hope I'm wrong though as I'm upgrading in december. fingers crossed that something even cooler than the TP2 will be around.
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The superstar is a completely different processor class and should be much much faster (don't just compare the rated speed). Like going from 486 to 586 in the PC world. The Tegra chipset is also 1080P video capable and there are many other goodies with a mean integrated graphics processor. The Pro 2 is good, but hardware that has been around for quite a while.
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so wait do you think this it would be worth waiting like half a year for this phone? and also do you think it will make it o the us, cause some phones like the touch hd never did
The superstar is superior, it will most likely feature HDMI out because it has HD capabilities, here is a pic:
http://www.sweclockers.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=845054
The graphic will be able to play the real quake 3 with ease, it can play hd for 10 hours and music for 30 hours
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The superstar is superior, it will most likely feature HDMI out because it has HD capabilities, here is a pic:
http://www.sweclockers.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=845054
The graphic will be able to play the real quake 3 with ease, it can play hd for 10 hours and music for 30 hours
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wow that amazing.. so do you think it will come to the us, preferabley t-mobile, and if so when do you think it will?
Mr.Sir said:
The superstar is superior, it will most likely feature HDMI out because it has HD capabilities, here is a pic:
http://www.sweclockers.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=845054
The graphic will be able to play the real quake 3 with ease, it can play hd for 10 hours and music for 30 hours
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wait a sec... I googled it and found this pic:
http://www.gsmdome.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nvideadevice.jpg
if its really THAT thick... yeah... umm I would expect specs that high but it doesn't look like that would even fit in my pocket. or maybe it just looks really bulky in the pic, but if you think of it that way then the htc shift is already out and is by far the best phone ever, so why doesn't every one get that? aside from the price, its WAY to big for a phone, so if the superstar is that big I would prefer a less powerful phone like the touch pro 2, or maybe that pics a fake. but I doubt it because it would explain why this device is so far ahead of other phones, but some people prefer bigger more powerful phones, just like the shift is a bigger phone than the touch pro 2 but is better, and I will admit even the touch pro 2 is big, but I draw the line when it is to big to fit in my pocket, but then again that's just my opinion on the touch pro 2 vs. the superstar btw after seeing that pic my opinion changed a lot lol
I don't think it's as big as it looks. In fact, I think it's just a REALLY stupid marketing pic. From the screen size, it looks about the same size on the front ast the Touch HD. The thickness is questionable, but I think the poor picture makes it look thicker than it really is. I'm guessing it's a little bit thicker than a Titan. The TP2 is a little bit less. Still would be bigger than the TP2, but maybe worth the sacrifice.
That said, (and I really have know information to back this up) I'd bet a paycheck they don't bring this to the states through a major carrier.
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I don't think it's as big as it looks. In fact, I think it's just a REALLY stupid marketing pic. From the screen size, it looks about the same size on the front ast the Touch HD. The thickness is questionable, but I think the poor picture makes it look thicker than it really is. I'm guessing it's a little bit thicker than a Titan. The TP2 is a little bit less. Still would be bigger than the TP2, but maybe worth the sacrifice.
That said, (and I really have know information to back this up) I'd bet a paycheck they don't bring this to the states through a major carrier.
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thats possible they didnt bring a lot of really nice phones to the u.s, but the touch pro 2 is still pretty nice, just a little under powered, if it had better graphics and a better processor, that would be the best phone ever lol
i don't mind having a big phone as long as it fits in my pocket i like the touchpro 2 and will be a nice back up if the superstar isn't in my budget or if it doesn't come to the us i'm currently using a wizard with a extended battery pack at times so i don't think a phone can get much thicker then that
htc superstar looks like a winner to me
but im interested and seeing about the buttons there seems to be a lack of buttons but i'm pretty sure it will have a g-sensor in it so that can kinda work in replace of the buttons
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i don't mind having a big phone as long as it fits in my pocket i like the touchpro 2 and will be a nice back up if the superstar isn't in my budget or if it doesn't come to the us i'm currently using a wizard with a extended battery pack at times so i don't think a phone can get much thicker then that
htc superstar looks like a winner to me
but im interested and seeing about the buttons there seems to be a lack of buttons but i'm pretty sure it will have a g-sensor in it so that can kinda work in replace of the buttons
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well based on that pic, (I used the size of the hdmi port as a base for the size) am starting to wonder if the phone really will fit in an average sized pocket... and if it does, it sure will be very tight in the pocket and fell uncomfortable
thats not actually the superstar its was just an Nvidea phone concept. as of now there are no pics of the Superstar available. check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeupVAMnvFA
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thats not actually the superstar its was just an Nvidea phone concept. as of now there are no pics of the Superstar available. check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeupVAMnvFA
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U beat me to it, that iz Nvidia's concept phone/mid that they made from since the start of 2007 or 2008. I will be getting the TP2 first then sell it on Ebay when the superStar comes out. If the SuperStar comes out an work like it does in the following video I will be really sold. Also I heard that it iz coming out Q4 '09. Here is a video of their Windows CE made UI, very fresh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQa9nP4yyms
yea that's goin to be a really nice device i think i might have to steal your idea zellbz sell get the pro2 and then when the superstar comes out do some testing and then sell the pro2 online on ebay or two a friend.
i dont think the size of the phone will be to bad it i'm a pretty big guy anyway so a bigger device is a plus
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yea that's goin to be a really nice device i think i might have to steal your idea zellbz sell get the pro2 and then when the superstar comes out do some testing and then sell the pro2 online on ebay or two a friend.
i dont think the size of the phone will be to bad it i'm a pretty big guy anyway so a bigger device is a plus
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thats not a bad idea lol (the selling the tpro 2 thing) but if I was to do that I think I would just wait for a newer phone than the superstar SO I think I will go for the Touch pro 2
Link278 said:
thats not a bad idea lol (the selling the tpro 2 thing) but if I was to do that I think I would just wait for a newer phone than the superstar SO I think I will go for the Touch pro 2
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yea that's tru especially if the tegra chips really live up to the hype that they are bringing
I remember this concept pic. from when they first announced that nvidia chipset. I doubt the superstar with look like that at all. In fact, it will probably be a tablet pc like the athena. btw, does the TP2 have a graphics processor at all?

Is it worth to go for Touch Pro 2 instead of Touch HD

I currently have Touch HD, and I think I can sell it for a price which covers about 95% of Touch Pro 2 price.
So is it worth it? Is it worth selling my beloved Touch HD and go for Touch Pro 2?
Im a multimedia user, so I like to watch videos and listen to music with my phone!
Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
I currently have Touch HD, and I think I can sell it for a price which covers about 95% of Touch Pro 2 price.
So is it worth it? Is it worth selling my beloved Touch HD and go for Touch Pro 2?
Im a multimedia user, so I like to watch videos and listen to music with my phone!
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I would! Ha ha ha...
There are lots of improvements but you have to ask yourself this. Are you ok with the added weight and thickness.
If you are, then I will definitely go for it.
Video is said the be much better on the new TP2.
from the revirew's i've read, the main issue is, if you don't need the hardware keyboard, the hd or diamond2 is the best bet. if you need the hardware keyboard, the pro2 is ofcourse the way to go. i ordered the pro2 for this reason too good luck.
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from the revirew's i've read, the main issue is, if you don't need the hardware keyboard, the hd or diamond2 is the best bet. if you need the hardware keyboard, the pro2 is ofcourse the way to go. i ordered the pro2 for this reason too good luck.
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about the keyboard-- Ive learned to type on my Touch HD as fast as on desktop computer!!!
Im more intrigued about the dual speakers and the tilting screen, which would be ideal for waching movies!!!!
BTW--- Hows the wifi reception, is it someway better then on Touch HD?? And is does the speaker outpot good sound when on low frequencies(BASS) ??
Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
about the keyboard-- Ive learned to type on my Touch HD as fast as on desktop computer!!!
Im more intrigued about the dual speakers and the tilting screen, which would be ideal for waching movies!!!!
BTW--- Hows the wifi reception, is it someway better then on Touch HD?? And is does the speaker outpot good sound when on low frequencies(BASS) ??
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LOL that's not too shabby at all.
I'm looking forward to be able to test if the dual speakers will also serve as a pretty useful output for playing of music or getting verbal commands from various navigation softwares.
I only ordered my pro2 yesterday and according to the vendor, it should be available for shipping late this month - so i'm not of more knowledge than what's been said in the youtube review's i've watched (mainly pocketnow.com). i'll be watching intently for someone with more knowledge on these subjects
Just read a review - http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=1139
made me thinking, but still I need someone who is holding the device in his hands to write a review or something about the sound capabilities and other multimedia stuff!!!
Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
I currently have Touch HD, and I think I can sell it for a price which covers about 95% of Touch Pro 2 price.
So is it worth it? Is it worth selling my beloved Touch HD and go for Touch Pro 2?
Im a multimedia user, so I like to watch videos and listen to music with my phone!
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Well
If you ask this on HD section you would recieve a lot of posts saying No!
But as you posted here...imagine what members would say?
If you prefer a buisness oriented device with a real keyboard go for TP2
If you are looking for a more entertainment device go for HD
If you don't need a keyboard then the HD would be nicer.
Now i have a HD and a TP2, for now there are no custom roms for the TP2 and the standard HTC rom is crap. After a night the device reacts slow and needs a softreset.
With a custom rom (black pearl 2.9 or daviduck 6.1) the HD is more stable and faster.
good luck with your choice. The sound when making a telephoen call is better with the TP2!
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Well
If you ask this on HD section you would recieve a lot of posts saying No!
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I wanted to but this place has some touch pro 2 users, and the forum doesnt have a option where you can have same thread in different forum places!!!!
but I think I will post same thread at HD forum!!
I did it last week (changed my HD for TP2) and I have to say that it is definitely worth of change (if as you are saying multimedia user). Better video, speaker is unbelievable, better camera (photos and video recording etc.). Different is, that I definitely needed a keyboard so this was my real drive. But by this I realised many other advantages of TP2. I wouldn´t change it for Diamond 2, but TP2 ruless...WiFi is for me same as on HD.
Dan
Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
I currently have Touch HD, and I think I can sell it for a price which covers about 95% of Touch Pro 2 price.
So is it worth it? Is it worth selling my beloved Touch HD and go for Touch Pro 2?
Im a multimedia user, so I like to watch videos and listen to music with my phone!
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i have got both phones and the touch HD has a bigger screen and video performance is about the same. the reason i say to get a tp2 is as follows:
1. screen is much brighter and colors more vivid. when watching movies you can tell the difference instantly. playback is much more fluid on the tp2
2. htc have refined the tp2 to almost perfection. the whole user experience is thoroughly enhanced. touchflo finally looks like a winner and the addition of the vibez feedback just adds another dimension
3. battery life is better on the tp2 as i have had both devices running together on similar usage
4. tp2 is latest technology and a vast improvement on past htc devices.
5. it looks awesome dude
i'd say to get a tp2 and not only will you have a new device but one which delivers with what it has got under the hood!
edit: oh yeah the current radio is pretty good. got a constant 'H' signal and wifi is strong in and outdoors!
Well if you are listening also to music with a wired headset than you have to consider that the TP2 hasn't got a 3,5 mm headphone jack...
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Well if you are listening also to music with a wired headset than you have to consider that the TP2 hasn't got a 3,5 mm headphone jack...
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less than 10$ on ebay and now you do!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...Category=20336&_trkparms=algo=LVI&its=I&otn=2
Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
less than 10$ on ebay and now you do!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...Category=20336&_trkparms=algo=LVI&its=I&otn=2
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soundz like your mind is already made up! just get it as i am sure you will like. phone is a good un mate and my views may seem bias, just that i got both devices and the improvements are clear to see
shingers5 said:
soundz like your mind is already made up! just get it as i am sure you will like. phone is a good un mate and my views may seem bias, just that i got both devices and the improvements are clear to see
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The problem right now is - I dont have the $$$ for the phone but selling my touch HD will take some time(if I will even be able to sell it, but i think if I throw in some extras like Nokia BH-503 stereo headset, then I think that the phone will go!! but im not 18y old so I have to do some talking with my parents!!
Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
The problem right now is - I dont have the $$$ for the phone but selling my touch HD will take some time(if I will even be able to sell it, but i think if I throw in some extras like Nokia BH-503 stereo headset, then I think that the phone will go!! but im not 18y old so I have to do some talking with my parents!!
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well 1 month of doing dishes, promise to keep your room clean, wash the car for 4 weeks and bring in the groceries. sounds like a good deal to me so your parents might buy it!
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well 1 month of doing dishes, promise to keep your room clean, wash the car for 4 weeks and bring in the groceries. sounds like a good deal to me so your parents might buy it!
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not good for me!!!!
my parents are realy (i dont know the right word - hard, or something, trying to raise me right) and they wont buy it for me!!!
Im already trying to get a bike from them (have to do everything they say-lot of work in the garden and lot of painting-- and get a midle grade of 8 in school + all exams combined) nice aint it??
But the touch HD is 100% mine, bought from my money!!
So ill do alot of thinking an if you see me writting in Touch Pro 2 forum at the end of the summer, then I managed to get Touch Pro 2....
one of the reasons ive not read here is:
You have to hold the HD in your hand or put it up against something to watch tv or video
The pro 2 can stand on your desk and you can see video's just while it stands
and the extra keyboard lets you see the hole screen, when you use the onboard keyboard you mis a large chunk of screen
imhu
I have the good old HD, but will be getting the TP2 for most of the reasons already mentioned (once it comes to the usa for tmobile 3G)! Mostly, I want the tilt capability for most of the stuff I do.
I also say go for it. I have both and at first look it is very noticable in the small screen size difference i was like ahh i dont know. But in less than 30 minutes i was thinking of putting the HD up for sale lol. (iam keeping though most likely). The build of this phone is very nice and its a good performer minus typical few misc bugs. Once the cooks start in this phone will be tops for sure

Touch Pro2 OR Omnia HD - Your recommendation

Hi all.
I have finally zeroed down to the TP2 vs Omnia HD and would love some feedback on the two from people who either own both or have experience.
My typical phone usage in order of priority:
* Music Playback
I currently play music on my HTC Touch with some reg tweaking and Audio Booster. Music can go loud (when the train is deafening) and has a deep punchy bass through my Sennheisser CX500 headphones.
Compared to this, the Nokia 5800 I got from TMobile Netherlands was VERY quiet. I dont know what all the reviews about it being loud get it from. Probably non Euro versions. Anyways, I returned it. Same goes for all the ipods and iphones I have plugged in. Reason why not too keen on the iphone 3Gs.
Which of the two would have better music playback through headphones. I'm looking for high volume, stereo clarity and bass. Tp2 or Omnia HD?
* Pocketability
I'm looking for one phone that I can take with me everywhere, all the time. Omnia HD would fit fine in a jeans pocket no doubt. How big of a brick is the Tp2 in real. Would it be uncomfortable lugging it around going out for a night in town? I guess this would be a deal breaker.
Can I still dorn my skinny jeans?
* Screen
I have a huge load of films that I have never seen and never get to see. Would be fab if I can run through my collection in the train on my daily commute. Now I know Omnia HD has a GORGEOUS screen. The best Im thinking. Bright, pop out colors, big and clear.
How does the Tp2 screen rate in comparison to Omnia HD. I know one gets used to what one has, but would the Omnia HD have twice the better movie watching experience? say watch a whole DVD movie for hour and half at a stretch?
* Battery
For playing music two hours a day, watching maybe an hours video, throw in email retrieval every two hours which of the two would last longer.
* Keyboard
Now I aint much of a caller or texter. Most of my communication is done online with my social lot. The HTC Touch IM experience left a lot to be desired so I stopped using it.
So knowing the Tp2 has the best keyboard, if I dont have much use of it, it wouldnt figure in my equation.
Although having the whole screen visible while typing does earn some points.
Maybe once if I get the Tp2, and start using the keyboard, I'd be doing a lot more typing replying emails and finally getting the email down on the mobile? Cant say!
* Applications
Now by far, the iphone App store has the sexiest, coolest fun apps. For everything under the sun. Android I think will get there, probably needs another year to get enough momentum from the developer community. Someone please code an Android Core video player for one!.
Winmo while having fair share of business related apps, still lags much behind when it comes to the whacky items the iphone comes home with. Ok before this gets into an apple fanboy rant..
Is my belief true, that Symbian has the least interesting catalog of (free) apps, specially the Series 60 v5 touch UI? To think one wouldnt be able to install even the Nokia Beta lab apps onto the Samsung symbian!
(Ok not right off the bat, I did see Nokia maps running on the Omnia HD)
* 3.5 jack
Omnia would have the 3.5 jack. Tp2 I can plug in a cheapo 3.5 adapter. So no biggie.
Now thats my share of the rant for the month. Thanks for bearing with me. Would totally appreciate any thoughts on the above so please hit reply.
Thanks
PS: Although there be similar threads and I did search!, thought I could better get some insight from the above specifics in one place. Thanks again.
I can only give my opinion from my ownership of the TP2 for a week. Previous to this the last smartphone I owned was an SPV e200 with WM2003.
Music Playback:
Fantastic, has plenty of base but not too much - coupled with a good pair of headphones I see no reason for a regular user to need another mp3 player. The TP2 also has a very loud and clear speakerphone (obviously important for conference calling using their 'Straight Talk' technology. The interface for the music player is nice, and all skinned using TP3d.
'Pocketability':
The TP2 is thinner than the Omnia HD I believe, but it is farly fat. Although it is not as fat as I expected, and roughly the same size as the k850i I had. It will definately show through skinny jeans, depending on how skinning you go you will struggle with any phone! I personally don't find it a problem in my pocket.
Screen:
I think the OLED on the Samsung will trump the TP2 here, the TP2 screen is great: 480x800 resolution, but will not match the brightness and contrast of the OLED screen.
Battery:
Very impressed with the battery life of the TP2, it will easily last 2 days with moderate use (web 3h, music 1, texting 30min). This is set to probably improve as others have with the wm6.5 update - so possibly looking towards 3 days on average use.
Keyboard:
If you don't want it or won't use it then its extra fat in your pocket, but I can say that it is fantastic, I picked it up not using a phone keyboard before and could instantly use it. From what I have read there aren't many keyboards if any that will beat it.
Apps:
Quite a few for WM, and will increase with the Marketplace launch.
3.5 Jack:
Mini USB to 3.5 is required which is a slight pain, but doesn't really make much of a difference for me.
Is the Omnia 2 even released yet? I advise going to a vodaphone shop and trying the TP2 and Omnia 2 when they are out, I had incredibly high hopes for the TP2 and still it surpassed them when I got it.
by chance have you come across the HTC Hero, I think this might be more appropriate for you (the screen isn't quite the high resolution or size of the others, but still good).
Heya shure2,
Thanks for your opinion. Bang on too.
Btw :
'Pocketability': The TP2 is thinner than the Omnia HD I believe, but it is farly fat. You mean Tp2 is narrower and fatter? I thought the Omnia HD was nicely thin.
Guess for the moment the main contention for me is the fatty fatty boom formfactor of the Tp2. Otherwise Im all sold. Think I need to head out to the brick and mortars and try pocketing it there. I used to have a Nokia E61/71 and althought wide it wasnt so thick. Now been with the HTC Touch and its goes around great in skinnies. Ok enough about skinny jeans!
Screen: Like I said, if its still better than good on the Tp2 one gets used to what one has. Cant have everything now.
As for the battery, yes it is impressive getting three days for all that usage.
For the keyboard, like I said, I would start using it more and more once the phone takes over all email and messaging.
HTC Hero, well first thing its Android. Still would wait a year before trying out an Android phone. Second, the screen is smaller. I am targeting my next phone to be atleast 3.5' screen.
Well the Omnia 2 is listed as coming in two weeks at a webshop here in Amsterdam.
Interestingly, if I finally get the Tp2, Id have to pay 40 euro less than the Omnia HD on a 1 year contract. Though if the Touch HD didnt have those graphics issues, wouldnt that be the phone for moi!
Thanks again dude!
What about the Diamond 2?
If you're sold on the pro 2 except for it's fatness and not really looking for a hardware keyboard, why not broaden your horizon and check out the Diamond 2? Not much more left out but the speakerphone function, I think.
But isnt the Diamond2 with a 3.2" screen?..
I do want to watch vids on a big screen. Also reading a lot of the reviews hereon, people saying the Tp2 performs a lot better than the Diamond2.
sounds like you want the Touch HD to me check out the specs
Regards, Paul
as a proud owner of both the tp2 and samsung omnia HD this is my opinion:
samsung omnia HD:
i have unbranded it to remove orange uk identity. screen is huge and very vibrant. music playback is very impressive but sound in video playback is seriously muted. camera takes amazing shots in bright light but led light not good enough for night time photos. video capture is impressive - HD 1278x720 and looks amazing on your tele through tv out. the biggest let down is the audio quality on vid playback. choppy at best but new firmware due soon with new audio codec. battery life aint the best at all maybe 1.5 days on minimal use. multimedia wise this phone hammers the tp2 but alas thats the only department it wins on. thats why these 2 phones can quite happily live together!
HTC Touch Pro2
now this is where i get accused of being a fanboy but the phone is that good. screen is smaller but on par with omnia HD on res and vibrancy. both however don't perform very well when viewed in direct sunlight. there the tp2 fairs a tad better as the omnia HD screen is not visible at all in direct sunlight even if you cup your hand round screen. tp2 has got XDA as support and that in my book is the killer blow. tf3d actually works well and well manila is what it is. we all know what winmo does and the tp2 does all of it well and takes it to another level. i am getting 2.5 to 3 days of battery depending on use even from 96% chargeD) tp2 feels good ion the hand and looks too good to be a HTC branded device. seriously HTC have outdone themselves here. must say don't like winmo 6.1 on this device as i think winmo 6.5 will bring out the devil in this device.
conclusion:
for multimedia purposes you can use the samsung omnia HD as that what symbian is all about but for overall everyday performance with adequate multimedia functions its gotta be tp2! it all depends on what aspect of the device is more important to the buyer!
Well my opinion is that go for TP2 definetly!
One thing to add, appart from what all have said is that if you go for omnia you won´t have the great support from this site!
And that fact is a super plus at least form me!
The Omnia Pro hasn't be released yet has it? I don't think this question can even be answered until people get their hands on the device. From my experience Specs mean next to nothing its all about software optimization. Look at the TP and the TP2. They both have same processing speed and i believe the same amount of RAM but the TP2 is a hell of a lot faster.
Bxsteez said:
The Omnia Pro hasn't be released yet has it? I don't think this question can even be answered until people get their hands on the device. From my experience Specs mean next to nothing its all about software optimization. Look at the TP and the TP2. They both have same processing speed and i believe the same amount of RAM but the TP2 is a hell of a lot faster.
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he's talking bout omnia HD which is available. runs s60 5th edition software
aftab.syal said:
Heya shure2,
Thanks for your opinion. Bang on too.
Btw :
'Pocketability': The TP2 is thinner than the Omnia HD I believe, but it is farly fat. You mean Tp2 is narrower and fatter? I thought the Omnia HD was nicely thin.
Guess for the moment the main contention for me is the fatty fatty boom formfactor of the Tp2. Otherwise Im all sold. Think I need to head out to the brick and mortars and try pocketing it there. I used to have a Nokia E61/71 and althought wide it wasnt so thick. Now been with the HTC Touch and its goes around great in skinnies. Ok enough about skinny jeans!
Screen: Like I said, if its still better than good on the Tp2 one gets used to what one has. Cant have everything now.
As for the battery, yes it is impressive getting three days for all that usage.
For the keyboard, like I said, I would start using it more and more once the phone takes over all email and messaging.
HTC Hero, well first thing its Android. Still would wait a year before trying out an Android phone. Second, the screen is smaller. I am targeting my next phone to be atleast 3.5' screen.
Well the Omnia 2 is listed as coming in two weeks at a webshop here in Amsterdam.
Interestingly, if I finally get the Tp2, Id have to pay 40 euro less than the Omnia HD on a 1 year contract. Though if the Touch HD didnt have those graphics issues, wouldnt that be the phone for moi!
Thanks again dude!
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The TP2 is quite thin, but for some reason in this sentance I was refering to the HTC HD :S, not sure on the width of the omnia HD. Although TP2 is a bit fatty bom batty its quite slim width wise, which is better than being wide and skinny imo.
Something that is not always brought up in reviews of the TP2 is how frigin awersome the build and aesthetics are, it looks really expensive with chrome parts and sleek lines. I would be surprised if you put them both side by side and asked a mate with no phone knowledge to pick the best one and he picked the omnia hd - it just wouldn't happen imo. Again you can only experience this when you get it in hand.
I spent £453 on this sim free - crazy for a phone I know, but concidering its a PDA, mp3 player, video player, web browser, gps device, camera and lets not forget an awesome phone, I think its worth it.
Its only going to get better as well with wm6.5 support and hopefully some cooked roms on this awesome place.
Paul_2222 said:
sounds like you want the Touch HD to me check out the specs
Regards, Paul
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Yeah actually intrinsically it does sound like the HTC HD would be the device for me except that some issue with its 3D drivers not being there at all vs the Tp2 having much better performance vid playback wise.
I only know the above from what I've read on these forums. Somehow the Tp2 plays better video than the Touch HD. What is that all about?
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Well my opinion is that go for TP2 definetly!
One thing to add, appart from what all have said is that if you go for omnia you won´t have the great support from this site!
And that fact is a super plus at least form me!
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You absolutely right!. There is no hacking knowledgebase for Symbian like there will be for the Tp2!. Very valid point you making there .. Super sooper plus indeed
shure2 said:
The TP2 is quite thin, but for some reason in this sentance I was refering to the HTC HD :S, not sure on the width of the omnia HD. Although TP2 is a bit fatty bom batty its quite slim width wise, which is better than being wide and skinny imo.
Something that is not always brought up in reviews of the TP2 is how frigin awersome the build and aesthetics are, it looks really expensive with chrome parts and sleek lines. I would be surprised if you put them both side by side and asked a mate with no phone knowledge to pick the best one and he picked the omnia hd - it just wouldn't happen imo. Again you can only experience this when you get it in hand.
I spent £453 on this sim free - crazy for a phone I know, but concidering its a PDA, mp3 player, video player, web browser, gps device, camera and lets not forget an awesome phone, I think its worth it.
Its only going to get better as well with wm6.5 support and hopefully some cooked roms on this awesome place.
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Hmm.. Guess I just need to check one out in real for making my mind up. Make that swiping my card and taking one home!. Good points you make, in that deal you getting a lot of bang for your buck, if it keeps you occupied 10 hours a day or sort.. . worth it it will be I'd say!
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as a proud owner of both the tp2 and samsung omnia HD this is my opinion:
samsung omnia HD:
i have unbranded it to remove orange uk identity. screen is huge and very vibrant. music playback is very impressive but sound in video playback is seriously muted. camera takes amazing shots in bright light but led light not good enough for night time photos. video capture is impressive - HD 1278x720 and looks amazing on your tele through tv out. the biggest let down is the audio quality on vid playback. choppy at best but new firmware due soon with new audio codec. battery life aint the best at all maybe 1.5 days on minimal use. multimedia wise this phone hammers the tp2 but alas thats the only department it wins on. thats why these 2 phones can quite happily live together!
HTC Touch Pro2
now this is where i get accused of being a fanboy but the phone is that good. screen is smaller but on par with omnia HD on res and vibrancy. both however don't perform very well when viewed in direct sunlight. there the tp2 fairs a tad better as the omnia HD screen is not visible at all in direct sunlight even if you cup your hand round screen. tp2 has got XDA as support and that in my book is the killer blow. tf3d actually works well and well manila is what it is. we all know what winmo does and the tp2 does all of it well and takes it to another level. i am getting 2.5 to 3 days of battery depending on use even from 96% chargeD) tp2 feels good ion the hand and looks too good to be a HTC branded device. seriously HTC have outdone themselves here. must say don't like winmo 6.1 on this device as i think winmo 6.5 will bring out the devil in this device.
conclusion:
for multimedia purposes you can use the samsung omnia HD as that what symbian is all about but for overall everyday performance with adequate multimedia functions its gotta be tp2! it all depends on what aspect of the device is more important to the buyer!
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You sum it up so well when you say everyday performance with adequate multimedia functions. I guess the top multimedia performer would be the iphone, though I havent yet had one in the flesh to certify.
The one thing that niggles me about the Omnia Hd is the Symbian OS. Software support for it seems to be rather dead. Xept for the odd twitter or facebook clients. Dont know why that would be.
The battery issue is a real winner for the Tp2 then. Imagine going on a plane trip for 15 hours and still having a phone when you land in at your destination while watching vids and perusing ur music in lounges and at gates. Important aspect for me. I have not been using my phone for data and I want to change that with my next phone.
Tomorrow going out to the shops and trying out the Tp2 for real.
Just found out that Tmobile have launched their TMobile Vario 5, which is basically the TP2 with a 4GB memory card. Wonder if they branded anything in there. My contract needs another two weeks to renewal so I just have to wait, impatiently!....
I am totally sold the Tp2 is the way to go. And again, xda-developers being there would make sure that there be a lot of future firmware changes to keep it performing by leaps and bounds. !
Cant wait to get my hands on one. Thanks all you guys who contributed. Some very relevant pointers to help this confused worrisome.
Cheers!
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he's talking bout omnia HD which is available. runs s60 5th edition software
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aftab.syal said:
You sum it up so well when you say everyday performance with adequate multimedia functions. I guess the top multimedia performer would be the iphone, though I havent yet had one in the flesh to certify.
The one thing that niggles me about the Omnia Hd is the Symbian OS. Software support for it seems to be rather dead. Xept for the odd twitter or facebook clients. Dont know why that would be.
The battery issue is a real winner for the Tp2 then. Imagine going on a plane trip for 15 hours and still having a phone when you land in at your destination while watching vids and perusing ur music in lounges and at gates. Important aspect for me. I have not been using my phone for data and I want to change that with my next phone.
Tomorrow going out to the shops and trying out the Tp2 for real.
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to be honest iphone 3g aint as you still restricted as to what you can use on there. no opera or flash or skyfire etc. UI and touch is amazing barr none the best out there. the others are catching up and tp2 is proof of that! iphone battery aint the best either mate and the current restrictions to one service provider means you need iphone devs ultrasn0w to free your iphone 3g up! iphone does what it does very well - the apps available are immense but limited to apple if ya get ma drift. everything runs through apple servers which is worrying to say the leaset! symbian os support is out there on sites like mobiles24 and mobilecastle........told you i was phone mad! these sites however are nothing like XDA so tp2 wins hands down!

G2 or HD2?

Ok, so I've been talking to TONS of people about which phone I should upgrade to. My HD2 friends are vouching for the HD2, but the G2 people say that the HD2's battery life is **** (this was pre-Nand). Which of the 2 phones do you think I should look into upgrading to?
I'm hoping to have a phone that has a big developer base so the phone is always supported (unlike the Mytouch Slide, which was supported for 2 months until the G2 came out.)
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well you're posting in the G2 forum so I bet most people are gonna say G2 (hopefully)
and cyanogen owns a G2 himself, so the phone should be heavily supported for a good while...
I personally went with the G2 and am lovin it
I have both.
Why do I have both? Because the G2 really attracted me as it reminded me of my old TP2.
Would I buy it again? No.
The keyboard is stiff.
The screen is small.
The CPU is unimpressive.
I get less battery life with it, than my HD2 with Android.
The hinge is just stupid.
The flash is weak.
The camera seems lower quality in side by side comparisons.
Go with the HD2.
arthurbrownleeiv said:
I have both.
Why do I have both? Because the G2 really attracted me as it reminded me of my old TP2.
Would I buy it again? No.
The keyboard is stiff.
The screen is small.
The CPU is unimpressive.
I get less battery life with it, than my HD2 with Android.
The hinge is just stupid.
The flash is weak.
The camera seems lower quality in side by side comparisons.
Go with the HD2.
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Ok, see, this is helpful. The HD2 has 720p right? Isn't that better than the G2's camera already? Also, do you think that the HD2 will be as supported as it is now in 10 months?
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Ok, see, this is helpful. The HD2 has 720p right? Isn't that better than the G2's camera already? Also, do you think that the HD2 will be as supported as it is now in 10 months?
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Actually, I haven't updated my Froyo build in awhile, so I don't know if the 720p is working yet or not for video recording. I do know the sound is a bit better on the video with the HD2, but I never compared the video quality between the two.
When I mentioned the camera, I meant still shots. I've been able to do some HDR shots even with the HD2.
Another thing, I am getting about 5-7mw of drain on an SD card build, and I hear the NAND builds are down to 2-3mw of drain. With my normal battery, a day of medium to heavy use isn't a problem. However, I also have the HTC extended battery and go about 2 days without a charge with no issue
I don't know if they will make an extended battery for the G2, but the way the battery door is made, it would be hard to do.
That's another thing, I don't like the MicroSD being in a weird little "cage" under the battery. So much for swapping in cards while the phone is on.
One thing I forgot...
The screen size on the HD2 will completely spoil you to the point that no smaller screen will ever "do" for you. Be it just reading on the screen, or typing on it with two thumbs in landscape. It's just perfect.
arthurbrownleeiv said:
One thing I forgot...
The screen size on the HD2 will completely spoil you to the point that no smaller screen will ever "do" for you. Be it just reading on the screen, or typing on it with two thumbs in landscape. It's just perfect.
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Ok perfect, I'm glad I posted here. You've been immensely helpful. The screen is actually the best for any Android phone to date, yes? My HD2 friends are raving about it.
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GoCkillaz said:
Ok perfect, I'm glad I posted here. You've been immensely helpful. The screen is actually the best for any Android phone to date, yes? My HD2 friends are raving about it.
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The color is nothing like an AMOLED screen, but it is brighter and crisper than most other LCD's out there.
It's the same screen the EVO and the Desire HD have, and both of those get pretty high praise
It certainly is higher brightness and color than the one they put on it's retarded twin brother the HD7
Glad I could be of some help. The G2 certainly does get higher bandwidth speeds in the "4G" areas, but I've never felt the HD2 was "slow" on the network either.
Plus another annoyance? The trackpad on the G2 randomly "wakes up" and moves when I'm typing. I'd rather that space was used for screen.
arthurbrownleeiv said:
The color is nothing like an AMOLED screen, but it is brighter and crisper than most other LCD's out there.
It's the same screen the EVO and the Desire HD have, and both of those get pretty high praise
It certainly is higher brightness and color than the one they put on it's retarded twin brother the HD7
Glad I could be of some help. The G2 certainly does get higher bandwidth speeds in the "4G" areas, but I've never felt the HD2 was "slow" on the network either.
Plus another annoyance? The trackpad on the G2 randomly "wakes up" and moves when I'm typing. I'd rather that space was used for screen.
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The only things that really attracted me to the G2 were the hardware keyboard and the 4G network. But I live like an hour away from Los Angeles, so I doubt that I'll be getting any 4G coverage anytime soon. I'm guessing by 2012.
Also, I've been hearing some wonky things about the trackpad on the G2, apparently there's a proximity sensor inside that responds to shadows and movement.
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GoCkillaz said:
The only things that really attracted me to the G2 were the hardware keyboard and the 4G network. But I live like an hour away from Los Angeles, so I doubt that I'll be getting any 4G coverage anytime soon. I'm guessing by 2012.
Also, I've been hearing some wonky things about the trackpad on the G2, apparently there's a proximity sensor inside that responds to shadows and movement.
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The keyboard isn't worth it.
I came from the Motorola Q9h, to the Tilt, to the Touch Pro, to the Touch Pro 2... So I was a diehard keyboard man... Then I owned the HD2 since release day.
Now after owning the G2 for a few months? I honestly can say, that as long as I have my HD2, I won't be wanting a physical keyboard.
The 4G honestly is the only reason I could see getting the phone, so since that isn't an issue for you, head on over to the HD2 section and find whatever ROM suits your fancy the most
arthurbrownleeiv said:
The keyboard isn't worth it.
I came from the Motorola Q9h, to the Tilt, to the Touch Pro, to the Touch Pro 2... So I was a diehard keyboard man... Then I owned the HD2 since release day.
Now after owning the G2 for a few months? I honestly can say, that as long as I have my HD2, I won't be wanting a physical keyboard.
The 4G honestly is the only reason I could see getting the phone, so since that isn't an issue for you, head on over to the HD2 section and find whatever ROM suits your fancy the most
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I went from a ****ty Nokia flip phone to a BB to another BB to the Mytouch3G to the MTSlide. I regretted ever going over to the MyTouch3G because the soft keyboard was laggy as hell (even when I used Swype). I guess that I'm just overly cautious about having yet another laggy phone.
Also, I've been lurking in the HD2 dev forum for a while now. I've just been to afraid to post anything. Lol.
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GoCkillaz said:
I went from a ****ty Nokia flip phone to a BB to another BB to the Mytouch3G to the MTSlide. I regretted ever going over to the MyTouch3G because the soft keyboard was laggy as hell (even when I used Swype). I guess that I'm just overly cautious about having yet another laggy phone.
Also, I've been lurking in the HD2 dev forum for a while now. I've just been to afraid to post anything. Lol.
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Never had any lag with SmartKeyboard Pro or whatever it is I'm using. I personally find it the best for landscape typing on the HD2 with my massive fingers.
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Never had any lag with SmartKeyboard Pro or whatever it is I'm using. I personally find it the best for landscape typing on the HD2 with my massive fingers.
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Haha I feel ya.
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If you like the HD2, then surely the Desire HD is the more obvious upgrade option ? Big screen like the HD2, and a much faster processor than the HD2 (newer generation, don't just compare the clock speeds !).
Personally I love the Vision's hardware keyboard, because I don't lose a big chunk of my screen to an on-screen keyboard. But we all like different things, and it would be a very boring world if every single one of us liked the same phone best !
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If you like the HD2, then surely the Desire HD is the more obvious upgrade option ? Big screen like the HD2, and a much faster processor than the HD2 (newer generation, don't just compare the clock speeds !).
Personally I love the Vision's hardware keyboard, because I don't lose a big chunk of my screen to an on-screen keyboard. But we all like different things, and it would be a very boring world if every single one of us liked the same phone best !
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Much faster? It's not even a full revision different than the original Snapdragon. I haven't seen that it is "much" faster in anything. A bit faster? Yep.
Worth the doubling in price to get? Hardly.
Not to mention, it sounds like the OP is using the T-Mobile network, the DHD won't have 3G on that.
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Much faster? It's not even a full revision different than the original Snapdragon. I haven't seen that it is "much" faster in anything. A bit faster? Yep.
Worth the doubling in price to get? Hardly.
Not to mention, it sounds like the OP is using the T-Mobile network, the DHD won't have 3G on that.
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Yes, but the second gen snapdragons eat the competition. It'd be safe to say the G2 is one of the best options if your into the hardware
I just put my HD2 aside for a G2. Suffice to say the HD2 is getting alot of shelf time now The ironic thing is I got tired of waiting for NAND-flashable Android builds for the HD2 and running it off a slow SD card and so the day after I paid full retail for my G2 - I see Cotulla and crew have released MAGLDR(sp?). ROFL
I flashed an MDJ Gingerbread NAND build, ran it on the HD2 for about an hour, then pulled the SIM and put it back in my G2. It's hard to explain, the HD2 is phenomenal but the G2 is an actual Android device so it just feels more comfortable to me running Android builds
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I just put my HD2 aside for a G2. Suffice to say the HD2 is getting alot of shelf time now The ironic thing is I got tired of waiting for NAND-flashable Android builds for the HD2 and running it off a slow SD card and so the day after I paid full retail for my G2 - I see Cotulla and crew have released MAGLDR(sp?). ROFL
I flashed an MDJ Gingerbread NAND build, ran it on the HD2 for about an hour, then pulled the SIM and put it back in my G2. It's hard to explain, the HD2 is phenomenal but the G2 is an actual Android device so it just feels more comfortable to me running Android builds
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This is the exact reason I switched from my HD2 to a G2. As well as being able to have a physical keyboard that did not take up half of the screen.
I am not a huge fan of Windows mobile and although there are different builds and roms for the HD2, none of them made me happy. I love Android and having an actual keyboard, so the best option for me was the G2.
Plus my HD2 lagged a lot.
Had an HD2 before the G2, dont regret ever selling it, I am happier with the G2 then I ever was with the HD2.
arthurbrownleeiv said:
I have both.
Why do I have both? Because the G2 really attracted me as it reminded me of my old TP2.
Would I buy it again? No.
The keyboard is stiff.
The screen is small.
The CPU is unimpressive.
I get less battery life with it, than my HD2 with Android.
The hinge is just stupid.
The flash is weak.
The camera seems lower quality in side by side comparisons.
Go with the HD2.
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Are you currently using T-Mobile with your HD2? I have a HD2 and a G2, my dad is using the HD2 and loves it since its a big screen and all. The only problem he says he's having is that the reception is worse since I put Android on it. Do you have any similar problem? Or did I do something wrong when I put Android up on it?

Why I'm buying the epic 4g touch.

Hello everyone,
I am a current evo 3d user who is purchasing the touch tomorrow (and giving the 3d to my financee).
Why am I purchasing the 4g touch. We all know it is a fast phone, it is great, etc, etc.
1) I want a phone that is fast, and great out of the box. I don't want to have to root it, overclock it, etc to make myself feel like I got my money's worth. The epic 4g touch will accomplish this (not saying I won't root it, or flash roms, I always do ).
2. I want a phone that is future proof. I want to be happy with the performance of my phone a year from now. I have yet to have a phone accomplish this, and I don't have the money to swap phones every 6 months (though I wish I did). I believe the epic 4g touch will be future proof...even for an entire upgrade cycle.
3. I want a great screen. The evo 3d didn't have this...and that is inexcusable for a "superphone" that cost as much as a good laptop. The epic 4g touch arguably has the best screen in the market at the moment.
4. Touchwize 4.0 looks pretty damn sweet
What do you guys think? Why are you buying the phone?
Also, for those who have the phone, how is the screen? Is the resolution lacking on such a big screen? How would you rate the phone for viewing pdf's....etc?
I am a graduate student, I need a phone I can read on .
-Blue
That sexy proccessor and that beautiful screen along with that thin perfectly shaped body....
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iSaint said:
That sexy proccessor and that beautiful screen along with that thin perfectly shaped body....
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Just like what we want in our women
This phone stock blows a rooted and overclocked 3d out the water. I just switched from the 3d and its better times 10.
Better signal. Better screen...even at lower resolution ..exynos core is a BEAST..plays n64 games on emulator stock smoother than overclocked evo. Better cameras..better speakers...this thing screams dude. And most of all...its a GREAT PHONE before anything. Great call quality..stronger reception than the 3d. If your on the fence..jump man..it's worth it
sent from my damn EPIC TOUCH 4G!!!!
Sounds like good reasons to me. The E3D is a great phone but I think this one is a little better all the way around.
I feel like the hdmi out would make up for the lack of a high res screen (even though it doesnt look any different from one that does). Just plus that sucker up to a cheap 10 inch hd TV and your set imo.
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I feel like the hdmi out would make up for the lack of a high res screen (even though it doesnt look any different from one that does). Just plus that sucker up to a cheap 10 inch hd TV and your set imo.
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How much of a sore spot is not having TV Out on the original Epic? People go nuts over it whenever the thread gets bumped. If the WVGA screen uses any less battery than qHD then I can't think of anything I would complain about. I purchased 2 movies from Media Hub and, I am dead serious, the clarity is every bit as good as my 1080 HDTV...and that's on my Epic. I can't wait to see the same flix on the ET4G tomorrow since the screen is supposed to be a little better even. Power and battery life seem great from reviews, Improved Touchwiz..ok, I will give it a real chance. I can honestly see myself running rooted stock and not complaining abou it while waiting for the real goodies to get baked.
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I'm coming from the Epic 4g and I loved that phone. I told myself I wouldn't upgrade until I found a true successor. With everything I have read about the E4gt i'm hoping this is the one. Plus I loved the developers for the Epic 4G and i'm hoping they come along to this phone as well!
I'm buying it because I know it's a beast of a phone that I'm going to fall in love with and appreciate for a very long time like i did my Evo was for it's time. But actually I am also buying a Samsung this time around because believe it or not, Apple is filing litigation against them. That unfortunately has become my litmus test of great products to come. As you can probably tell, I hate apple with a passion. Whoever Apple's suing the most at any given point will receive my business.
I am.... maybe buying it depending on Nexus Prime news or lack of Nexus Prime news over the next 4 weeks.
The deciding factors for me are:
1) The performance of the Processor and Video Processing. yes benchmarks doesn't fully tell the truth, but with out tweaking anything the numbers its putting it out is mind blowing. 90mflops with over 3000!!! Look at the gaming number too!!! next to the photon its a Tachyon!!
2) The Camera sensor. the only device to record at 1080p!!!! What is wrong with HTC and Motorola? why cant they contend with that ability. Its not a Android software issue. if the EVO 3D had DUAL 8MP EVO cameras at least then the EVO 3D would have had more stomping ground. More megapixels does mean a sharper image when sized down to smaller resolutions, to get real 35mm photo quality images digitally you need around 20 megapixels to equal the same sharpness and depth of analog camera quality. so in Digital Megapixel world less means LESS, yes the sensor may matter, but still digital needs more pixels to equal analog quality.
3) Battery Life. So far the reviews for Sept 15th are confirming that the battery life is better than the other 2 contenders.
4) THE SCREEN. 4.5 inches of pure bliss beauty. I cant wait to see the Samsung NOTE Super AMOLED HD 5 inch screen!!!!! too bad they couldnt have a higher resolution on the AMOLED + to the 960 x 540. Really I want the Samsung NOTE over the Epic now, but it looks like Sprint might not get it as in the specs doesn't show CDMA, still could mean a version for sprint may come out of the molds..
5) Software abilities, Yes Sense 3.0 still has amazing features that wont be copied, but then from the new motion sensing feature of Touchwiz looks promising. it was about time they used the motion/extra sensors to input with the software. Really I want full customization of any animated features for ALL phones, if you want a specific animated software feature, you should not be limited to only certain things per manufactures decision only be limited by the main operating system. If you want the cool Carousel feature of the main menu, Sense UI should not be the only one to have it. Heck having the carosel feature with shaking the Epic touch left or right with out using your finger would be KILLER. I also like the cube conveyor belt like feature of the Apps selection on the Nexus S. I have a few other animated features I want to see implemented that I saw with Ubuntu since android is based off of linux kernel, majority of all the Ubuntu like animated features could work on it. all in all the new software features is a serious worthiness.
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The deciding factors for me are:
1) The performance of the Processor and Video Processing. yes benchmarks doesnt fully tell the truth, but with out tweaking anything the numbers its putting it out is mind blowing. 90mflops with over 3000!!! Look at the gaming number too!!! next to the photon its a Tachyon!!
2) The Camera sensor. the only device to record at 1080p!!!! WTF is wrong with HTC and Motorola? why cant they contend with that ability. Its not a Android software issue. if the EVO 3D had DUAL 8MP EVO cameras at least then the EVO 3D would have had more stomping ground.
3) Battery Life. So far the reviews for Sept 15th are confirming that the battery life is better than the other 2 contenders.
4) THE SCREEN. 4.5 inches of pure bliss beauty. I cant wait to see the Samsung NOTE Super AMOLED HD 5 inch screen!!!!! too bad they couldnt have a higher resolution on the AMOLED + to the 960 x 540. Really I want the Samsung NOTE over the Epic now, but it looks like Sprint might not get it as in the specs doesn't show CDMA, still could mean a version for sprint may come out of the molds..
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even at 480x800, it still looks amazing. I just came from the qHD screen on the 3d. Everytime I turn on my screen i just stare at it.
But yeah I want to see a higher res version of this screen.
cds0699 said:
Just like what we want in our women
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Yeah okay I'll admit, I've banged women that were less attractive than this phone.
Success100 said:
even at 480x800, it still looks amazing. I just came from the qHD screen on the 3d. Everytime I turn on my screen i just stare at it.
But yeah I want to see a higher res version of this screen.
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Just goes to show how bad PenTile is.
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Yeah okay I'll admit, I've banged women that were less attractive than this phone.
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... Haven't we all
This phone gets me harder than viagra
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Yeah okay I'll admit, I've banged women that were less attractive than this phone.
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Most men have, I would be lying if I said I hadn't
Aside from the GPS, Samsung pretty much nailed the hardware in the Galaxy S line. Their Hummingbird based hardware blew away it's contemporaries, and the SAMOLED screen drew raves (although the pentile matrix display was docked points by some for the screen door effect and fuzzy text). But the software wasn't on the same level. Touchwiz 3.0 was not the greatest skin in the world.
The reason I'm getting the Epic Touch is because Samsung continued its hardware domination this generation, fixed GPS, went RGB stripe with the SAMOLED Plus screen, and, more importantly, worked very hard to make the software work on the same level as HTC's Sense skin. The result is arguably the best phone on the market (screen size preferences being the biggest deciding factor) and for what I look for in a phone, easily blows away it's nearest competitor. I am very, very happy that I decided to forgo the Evo 3D to wait indefinitely for the S2. Thank god it's here now, and thank god they moved to the 4.52" screen. The Epic Touch is basically my dream phone.
Hanson68 said:
Aside from the GPS, Samsung pretty much nailed the hardware in the Galaxy S line. Their Hummingbird based hardware blew away it's contemporaries, and the SAMOLED screen drew raves (although the pentile matrix display was docked points by some for the screen door effect and fuzzy text). But the software wasn't on the same level. Touchwiz 3.0 was not the greatest skin in the world.
The reason I'm getting the Epic Touch is because Samsung continued its hardware domination this generation, fixed GPS, went RGB stripe with the SAMOLED Plus screen, and, more importantly, worked very hard to make the software work on the same level as HTC's Sense skin. The result is arguably the best phone on the market (screen size preferences being the biggest deciding factor) and for what I look for in a phone, easily blows away it's nearest competitor. I am very, very happy that I decided to forgo the Evo 3D to wait indefinitely for the S2. Thank god it's here now, and thank god they moved to the 4.52" screen. The Epic Touch is basically my dream phone.
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my sentiments exactly. this is my dream phone
Dulanic said:
I am.... maybe buying it depending on Nexus Prime news or lack of Nexus Prime news over the next 4 weeks.
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Same here... I don't want to jump ship now just to found out the Prime is coming out a couple months from now.
cds0699 said:
Most men have, I would be lying if I said I hadn't
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Hahaha i would have to say this phone is much sexier than my ex wife
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