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All i need is a simple basic working rom and links to programs that i want.
I like some of the roms here but alot are over complicated with programs i would never need or want.
A basic WM6 with a tweak program and the , MSN, HTC and Office Patches all up to date wouild suffice. (oh and doesnt take up 80% of the storage card)
anyone point me in that direction please
DUH ?!?! unbelievable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365604
use a kitchen and cook one yourself, that or quit whining and look through the roms here and give them a try.
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use a kitchen and cook one yourself, that or quit whining and look through the roms here and give them a try.
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i have been doing that since friday and since my exprertise is not coding, or cooking i thought i better ask before i brick my phone.
didnt really expect a huge repsonce but being pishy about it isnt what i expected either.
The link I provided is the easiest ROM cooker there is.
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The link I provided is the easiest ROM cooker there is.
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thanks i will give it a try. Last time i tried something like this was slipstreaming a full OS build onto a machine that died on me. so im not overtly confident
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thanks i will give it a try. Last time i tried something like this was slipstreaming a full OS build onto a machine that died on me. so im not overtly confident
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sorry but im a windows point and click guy and In not confident enough to do any cooking. its not as easy as a slipstream and i aint riskign my phone to play with it.
ill go back to WM5.
at least i know it works and doesnt bring my phone to a complete halt
Thanks for those of you who helped
dont run away so quickly, there are some decent roms in this forum, just have a look around, SCHAPS has some good one,s go for an earlier clean WM6 though one that's been hammered, and has some updates, for some reason he doesn't seem to want to provide updates to his latest Beta for 6.1.
There are a few other good full roms but its all about what you want to use the device for, I also just need a clean one not one that a chef has put all their fave apps in which bloats the build, I'm currently trying out the Shadow one which seams ok at the moment, main reason for that choice was that it states he has tweaked the bluetooth, what he's done I don't know..
and saying you've been searching since Friday... some of us have been searching for the wholy grail of ROMS for a while, I too am not a coder and don't want to brick my rom, no matter how good the destructions are, they invariably will be for the non uber geeks amongst us
Yes don't go to WM5. WM6 is much stable, dependable and you can find some good ROMs here. Though not officially launched, people here are cooking for WM6.1. It feels a bit strange to see you are going back to WM5.
Firstly decide the use of your Herms device.
Check out the applications the chefs are offering in their ROMs or you can use a clean ROM and instal cabs afterwards if you donot want to cook or expert in doing for yourself. It all depends on your personal preferences, but I feel you should not give preference to WM5 over WM6.
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dont run away so quickly, there are some decent roms in this forum, just have a look around, SCHAPS has some good one,s go for an earlier clean WM6 though one that's been hammered, and has some upda....
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I am tryin shaps 4.31 lit now.
im searching for windows live and htc home latest versioons so i can load them up.
krismcewan said:
All i need is a simple basic working rom and links to programs that i want.
I like some of the roms here but alot are over complicated with programs i would never need or want.
A basic WM6 with a tweak program and the , MSN, HTC and Office Patches all up to date wouild suffice. (oh and doesnt take up 80% of the storage card)
anyone point me in that direction please
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It doesn't have the 'latest and greatest', but hey, often the latest is not the greatest either...
Take a look at D-Lite and SuperD-Light.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320010&highlight=superd-light
has anyone noticed how much slower wm6 runs on the 8525? I have two friends who purchased 8525's after I did, and theirs run much quicker with the old wm5 roms on them. Mine looks cooler, and has better functionality, but it seems to hang for extended amounts of time sometimes. Like when I'm replying to a text message, or just sliding the keyboard out, waiting for the screen to change into lanscape mode.
Windows 6.1 seems alot faster. you might try looking into one of the 6.1 lites. I'm useing pays with some luck
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Windows 6.1 seems alot faster. you might try looking into one of the 6.1 lites. I'm useing pays with some luck
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i coulndt get pays one to run. the loader kept crashing.
i am using Schaps 4.31 but its really really slow
krismcewan said:
All i need is a simple basic working rom and links to programs that i want.
I like some of the roms here but alot are over complicated with programs i would never need or want.
A basic WM6 with a tweak program and the , MSN, HTC and Office Patches all up to date wouild suffice. (oh and doesnt take up 80% of the storage card)
anyone point me in that direction please
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You may not quite get that combination but one of the numerous lite ROMs on the board may well suit.
Myself I'd recommend using Mattk_r's Pandora 6 (WM6.0, not WM6.1) and using the 3.60 Big Storage ROM. Very nice, stable combination. That way you can add in just a couple of things.
WM 6.0 Kitchen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316881
Or you could just use his 'Naked' ROM for 6.0 and add just a tweak prog from a cab.
WM 6.0 Naked ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351274
I went up to the Pandora Naked 7 Kitchen and 'naked' ROM (still WM6.0) for a while then into the 6.1 'naked' ROM and kitchen with Pandora 8 & 9. Now I'm back with the 6.0 Kitchen and the 3.60 Big Storage ROM.
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i coulndt get pays one to run. the loader kept crashing.
i am using Schaps 4.31 but its really really slow
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I ran Schaps 4.01 Full for a while without too many problems, I have just installed this one, as a base ROM, there are a few minor issues with the launcher app but I don't use it anyway http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372118 seems reasonably fast can't comment on stability as I've only had it installed for an hour or so.
If you don't want all the tweaks and apps the ROM is offering just do a soft reset after you align the screen. Be sure to get a connection wizard then just pick and choose the apps you want. If you want a .CAB for something PM the person that has the ROM and ask for it.
I have been running the shaps 4.31 and although i like it its very very slow.
it keeps freezing and it takes ages to do anything.
I know no one believes me when i say i had less problems with WM5 but its that bad im seriously considering it.
I still have no way of putting the pays rom on as the loader always crashes.
Anyone else got a 6.1 rom that they recomend i can try.
try vp3g's it's very stable and not too many extras
I have been searching for an unmodified wm 6.1 rom w/o success... why is it that none of the cooks make clean, unmodified roms w/o custom folder icons/ status icons.
It would be the greatest thing to find a wm 6.1 rom for the hermes, that is as close to an htc release as possible, but with fixes to accomodate/increase speed.
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I have been searching for an unmodified wm 6.1 rom w/o success... why is it that none of the cooks make clean, unmodified roms w/o custom folder icons/ status icons.
It would be the greatest thing to find a wm 6.1 rom for the hermes, that is as close to an htc release as possible, but with fixes to accomodate/increase speed.
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I'd be willing to do that. I mentioned in my release yesterday that if anybody wanted another version (HTC Home, Lite, Ultra Lite), I would cook accordingly.
chop chop. How long does it take?! GOSH. Ok but seriously... id like two things in life right now... a sparkley clean rom with the newest version of wm6.1 ( dreaming about 6.5) and for someone to point me to the newest cab installer of manila... ill trade a night with my wife for these two things.
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chop chop. How long does it take?! GOSH. Ok but seriously... id like two things in life right now... a sparkley clean rom with the newest version of wm6.1 ( dreaming about 6.5) and for someone to point me to the newest cab installer of manila... ill trade a night with my wife for these two things.
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Ill take half a night
manila 2d cabs ect
To be honest with you, no one had shown any interest. I cooked a ROM based on the original wm6 for HTC. I took all of the base apps, extended ROM, updated it to 21109 (SYS & XIP), and flashed it. Works good, but it's still stock. To me, they are boring. I just thought it'd be fun to try.
boring works, i'm so over m2d if it doesn't work in landscape its pointless, it takes away from the fit & finish of the device and makes it feel hacked together.
whereas the custom folder icons have significance to the cook, it has no significance to someone else. I'm not saying that the cooks can't show their creativity, but some of us like vanilla just fine, and in more recent times, those users seem to have been forgotten.
I like the option of being able to customize the rom after the fact to my needs or tastes, but i'm not technically saavy enough to make a rom myself...i'd tried w/ earlier wm6 builds and that went ok...but my wm 6.1 attempts have failed miserably.
ok so i guess ill just ask for it. I would like to have a " vanilla " wm 6.1 rom with whatever the newest base os is... and the newest version of manila 2d... I can customize from that point etc... on that note does anyone know how to modify the links shown below the browser icon in the browser tab? I would like to make ones for wikipedia etc... and has anyone looked at breaking the map search tab down and using it to make searches for other things like google? or wikipedia? etc? if you notice... most of theinfo in the internet tab and others... scrolls up and down just brilliantly... would be awesome to make a tab that has a a webpage in it or something... like www.google.com/ig/i something like that would be perfect. so back to what i would like... just plain jain bluewm6.1 .. same blue as the att rom... and then the standard blue manilla on top of it... and... as to half nights with the wife... sounds fine to me... but what if i told you she looked like al goreand bill cosby's love child??
there are no problems with a stock rom but it is nicer if we can have an additional spice
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as to half nights with the wife... sounds fine to me... but what if i told you she looked like al goreand bill cosby's love child??
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Then it would be an interesting night
lmao
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as to half nights with the wife... sounds fine to me... but what if i told you she looked like al goreand bill cosby's love child??
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Sounds like my mother-in-law.. lol
I would like to agree with this thread. I am also in favour of unmodified interfaces. All respect to the coders and developers modify and push the envelope with the ROMs but these guys are not designers so the interfaces often look really dodgy when compared with the original manufacturer ROMs...
Tokoloshi said:
I would like to agree with this thread. I am also in favour of unmodified interfaces. All respect to the coders and developers modify and push the envelope with the ROMs but these guys are not designers so the interfaces often look really dodgy when compared with the original manufacturer ROMs...
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I'll be releasing one in the next few days in my RevROM thread.
I would also love to see a performance ROM with manufacturer interface design. Manilla 2D is awesome! All respect to the coders and developers, but you guys aren't designers, and this is something that is generally lacking in the modified ROMS.
Tokoloshi said:
I would also love to see a performance ROM with manufacturer interface design. Manilla 2D is awesome! All respect to the coders and developers, but you guys aren't designers, and this is something that is generally lacking in the modified ROMS.
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Lol, you basically repeated the same thing twice with different workds I wont be putting M2D in the next version because i already have a "non-colored" icons M2D version (latest v5). It'll be a lite version with possibly HTC Home on it.
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I have been searching for an unmodified wm 6.1 rom w/o success... why is it that none of the cooks make clean, unmodified roms w/o custom folder icons/ status icons.
It would be the greatest thing to find a wm 6.1 rom for the hermes, that is as close to an htc release as possible, but with fixes to accomodate/increase speed.
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Grab the official Kaiser ROM and port it for your Hermes!
ai6908
If i could only make sense of the kitchens. Someone needs to really clean up the kitchen instructions and or make a kitchen more akin to ppckitchen
I tried following Ivan's Cooking Class, and just ended up with an unholy mess that wouldn't boot.
Ok can anyone mention what comes in Stock ROM WM6.1
I want it too!
I will join DRTigerlilly´s request for a clean wm6.1 rom.
In fact what I really want is a clean one, and as close as possible to a stock rom, BUT IN SPANISH.
I am a bit of a newb to the hermes and was wondering what is the best/most stable rom for wm6.?? (I'm on orange UK by the way)
Would appreciate any opinions and links to the roms.
I have spent ages reading through various posts but keep getting lost/confused.
I have done the hard spl upgrade and have a sd card ready for the upgrade. Now it's the big question of which rom.
Would like one that is ready to go with most of the basics already there rather than one of the really lite ones I think, but not sure which would be best ?
I probably should say it's an M3100
Thanks in advance....steve
Which one that is best for you, might not be the one that is best for someone else. Each cook has their own style.
Try several, I would suggest CRC's, Tai's, Josh's, or kareme's
You really will have to try several to see what fits you best.
I have not tried any of the 6.5 roms out, mainly because it seems there are still bugs to be worked out.
Don't bother with WM6
There's not really that significant a jump from WM5 - and you can get an official WM6 ROM!
IMHO 6.1 is the way to go, for now...
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Umm.. I've been trying the WM 6.5 Version XXX76 from Tai... I am mighty impressed... I thot it'd need lots of ram to keep 6.5 running.. this is fast man... 6.5 though there are no paradigm shifts from 5,6 or 6.1... even the beta seems better that 6.1...
currently my rnaking would be
1. 6.5 ( I am liking waht I am seeing.. this is the speed king... 76 fro TAI is stable as any other ROM)
2. 6 (faster... than most of the other Versions and not plain as 5
3. 6.1 (lots of fixes on this but slow.. slow...slow)
WARNING!!:
once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!
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WARNING!!:
once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!
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What do you mean? I tried 6.5, didn't like it and flashed 6.1. Without any problems.
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thanks josh... for your warning...
There are 2 new 6.5 ROMs worth trying
I just bought a 8525 for $125 USD. It's awesome. I first settled on one of Schap's ROMS - Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.31_WWE_Full.
It was really nice but now it is sadly behind the times. There are 2 new 6.5 ROMs worth trying:
1 21189_Lite_V9_Update1
2 21193_Lite_V10
I installed the 1st and stopped there because it is so awesome. The Hermes no longer has to hide in the shadows of all the new $600 Pda/phones out there.
One thing about 6.5 is that there is no "programs" section per se in the titanium feature(?). So I went to a SPBplus4 Today Screen.
It's much more convenient for accessing fexplorer and task mgr.I did do an auto hide on the tabs and minimized the icons so it would look like one of the newer phones. Appreciate all the hard work everyone put in.
My ROM request (if anyone's interested) is for a full featured 6.5 -something like K's ROM with TAI's finesse dominating - BUT without IE or OFFICE or WM built in. I am surprised all the great cooks include these. I have found Skyfire, TCPMP work great and I don't need Office at all.
And the START MENU sections on the 6.5 should go directly to the same categories as before except more like :
Programs, SYSTEM Settings, Connection Settings, Personal Settings, TODAY settings, TOOLS (regedit, fexplore, taskmgr), GAMES, PICTURES, VIDEOS, MUSIC, AND the option to add or customize your own AND be able to have it show before Programs, and stay there after a SR!
I am a newbie but I know what I want. Thanks again to all the cooks for making carrying a phone everywhere exciting and useful and for showing the big companies how to really do it. They keep putting out these improved ROMs (performance-wise) but they have no idea what to do with them.
Jupiter and Titan from AZ USA.
I am also trying to figure out how to automatically add my apps from the SD card after a HR. Autorun or something like that. Anyone know of a thread that shows a newbie how to do it?
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I am also trying to figure out how to automatically add my apps from the SD card after a HR. Autorun or something like that. Anyone know of a thread that shows a newbie how to do it?
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337
I am still using binky11 as it was 5 or six month,,so stable,,,,
I love manilla2d, but it is not stable until right now
thanks
Try Josh M2D ROM..
Its nice, fast and stable
thanks JOsh
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What do you mean? I tried 6.5, didn't like it and flashed 6.1. Without any problems.
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Yes Josh what do you mean?? i've also downgrade back to WM 6.
I've tried your WM 6.5 Its great but for now im looking forward for the hybrid rom.
I personally like Tai_SW's 21109 rom. It seems to be really stable though that could be because its a hybrid WM6.1/WM6.5 rom.
Have 2 Hermes, on my main I use 21109 but test others on my "spare"...
I don't tend to like the Hex or titanium roms as the RAM is low and storage space seems to abot 45Mb or less while I use about 50 Mb for the apps I like. I need to have as much RAM as possible too so I don't end up with system freezes when I run a REALLY RAM hungry app.
Cheers...
binky11 is the most stable ever, but it will be the perfect rom when manill2d them inside.
PERFECT
thanks
Tai_SW's wm6.1 lite roms are superb, fast, stable, & lot's of free memory!!
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Yes Josh what do you mean?? i've also downgrade back to WM 6.
I've tried your WM 6.5 Its great but for now im looking forward for the hybrid rom.
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Josh meant that WM6.5 is great and once you've tried it, you don't want to back to 6.1 anymore
I use DarkWinter2 from Josh and it works fine for me.
PDAViet DVH_V27... I have tried other ROMS - some of them really nice, but there was always something, which made me to go back to DVH_V27.. too bad this guy does not cook for hermes anymore..
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Josh meant that WM6.5 is great and once you've tried it, you don't want to back to 6.1 anymore
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Not neccesary. I tried one day 6.5 Josh rom (GS or else edition), but it was lagging, so I re-flased it the same day. Now I'm using Josh V15 colored 3G and is wonderful
I sure hope this is the correct forum for this post. If it is not please excuse me for improper placing.
Way back when in 2007 I purchased an HTC Tytn and immediately found this website and was able to unlock the Tytn and was able to successfully upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.0 Professional - I believe I also upgraded my antena as well. I also found some cool weather app or something.
Since then I have not messed with the phone at all - in actuality it has been inactive for large periods of time. Well fast forward to 2009 and I am looking to upgrade this to 6.1 or 6.5.
There seems to be a plethora of options and posts out there - could anyone point me to a good stable working upgrade? As well as advice on any new cool APPS / Programs that they would recommend - that may have been developed in the past 1.5 yrs?
I thank you for your time in advanced.
Upgrading to 6.1 or 6.5
Good morning,
Well, you're probably going to be flashing a lot, since there are many new builds available since you've been gone. You'll find there is not going to be one that is an overwhelming recommendation, as much is personal preference.
That said, before you do anymore flashing, make sure you have the hardspl done and also that you have downloaded a stripped ROM, both of which you can find many places here.
There doesn't seem to be much difference between standard 6.0 and 6.1. I would suggest trying a few of the 6.5 builds, they are much more exciting and add new life to our phones. TAI_Sw has been churning out more ROMS than McDonalds has hamburgers lately - I would try one of those first.
You'll notice the today screen is much different, the interface is called Titanium - I personally don't like it, so the first thing I do is go into Settings, Today, and take that out and check the items I like. Besides the Titanium, some of the ROMS have Manilla, which is another cool option, and FCW has a newer ROM with a PointUI cooked in, another neat interface.
Bottom line, I believe you'll be happier with 6.5, which build is purely a personal choice. In any event, have fun flashing over and over until you find something you're happy with.
Best Regards.
Well I thank you for your reply. I have acquired the HARDSPL download from the sticky. As for the stripped rom - I seem to be lost at this point I have done a few searches but have not come up with much. Is this stripped rom specific to your carrier/provider? I am with a Canadian Carrier Rogers Wireless - I did see Tai_Sw reference a stripped rom for At&T. Hmmm?
Thoughts? Thanks for the heads up on WM 6.5 - I will definately narrow my focus to the 6.5 variety (just got to sift through the thousands of posts - to find a download for 6.5)
6.5 Links
I would stick to the first two pages of posts, that is if you're sorting your posts by the most recent activity. Read the comments toward the end of each post to see if there have been any problems with a specific ROM. I don't think it would be a problem using the AT&T stripped ROM, as you're immediately going to flash another, so carrier settings are not important.
I've played with 6.5 a little bit. Had it on my 8525 for a few days. It always feels slow in comparison to 6.1 for me. It takes a lot of memory to run. Keep in mind that it is still in beta at Microsoft, so anything you flash is going to have bugs, regardless of the tremendous talents of the chefs here.
The IE in WM6.5 is REALLY slow. There have been a few complaints about that and I concure. If you want fast and stable, I'd stick with 6.1 for a little while longer. I'm sure 6.5 will be much better when Microsoft finalizes it (or at least hits release candidate status). For now though, it is just too BUGGY.
Also, 6.5 probably has a time limit on it right now. I'm guessing it won't go away till someone finds it and removes the time limit, or when 6.5 comes out of beta.
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Also, 6.5 probably has a time limit on it right now. I'm guessing it won't go away till someone finds it and removes the time limit, or when 6.5 comes out of beta.
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on the other hand theres some good things coming out of 6.5 now and the official release is due soon so as for the timebomb built in there shouldnt be a problem. dispite its bugs i think 6.5 is a worthy upgrade and will become better as time goes on and new builds come out for us to play with.
Can you upgrade and then downgrade?
Ive just started flashing for the first time (ive already successfully flashed two 6.1 roms) and i have a question about upgrading from 6.1 to 6.5. Once you upgrade to 6.5 can you easily go back to 6.1 just by flashing a 6.1 rom? I know it seems like a simple question but ive looked around and havent seen any answers to it yet. Also, is flashing the 6.5 rom just the same as flashing a 6.1 rom or is there something else i would need to do?
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Ive just started flashing for the first time (ive already successfully flashed two 6.1 roms) and i have a question about upgrading from 6.1 to 6.5. Once you upgrade to 6.5 can you easily go back to 6.1 just by flashing a 6.1 rom? I know it seems like a simple question but ive looked around and havent seen any answers to it yet. Also, is flashing the 6.5 rom just the same as flashing a 6.1 rom or is there something else i would need to do?
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It's all the same. You can flash any rom you want (as long as you have hardspl!).
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It's all the same. You can flash any rom you want (as long as you have hardspl!).
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thanks! just flashed a 6.5 rom on my touch pro and it rocks!
the time-limit on WM6.5 is true. i am currently using WM6.5 on a Treo750 and last week I noticed (with a lot of others) that this version of WM6.5 will stop functioning on 01-july 2009!
Hopefully we can find a 'way-around' this...
I am open for suggestions
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the time-limit on WM6.5 is true. i am currently using WM6.5 on a Treo750 and last week I noticed (with a lot of others) that this version of WM6.5 will stop functioning on 01-july 2009!
Hopefully we can find a 'way-around' this...
I am open for suggestions
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we also should have the official soon. its finished at least now wont see a new phone with it on till september but we should have it very soon.
upgrading from WM6.1 to 6.5
so would anyone recommend flashing a 6.5 ROM on a sprint HTC touch pro??
and how would i go about doing it??
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so would anyone recommend flashing a 6.5 ROM on a sprint HTC touch pro??
and how would i go about doing it??
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I really wouldn't flash a hermes rom to it! Might need to do a bit more research first!
I love NFSFAN"s roms. He does such great work. I know in his knew v12 manilsa2D exists but, I personally don't care for the 6.5 roms. I'm not a great fan of the start menu system. Along with some other things. I'm starting a bounty with $50.00 to try to convince NFSFAN to update the WM6.1 rom for sprint. Hoping others may feel the same way. Please chime in with a donation, and see if we can get his attention.
Thanks For Looking ..... T M Z
I would be all for it as well. Not a big fan of 6.5 yet. But I think about the only thing that can be updated on 6.1 now is some of the apps. I think there has not been any new 6.1 sys released since the release of NSFAN's last 6.1 roms. I am so used to M2D now that I don't want to switch to a different UI until I get a new phone, and I don't know when that will be.
Exactly, what is there left to do with 6.1? it's a dead end. everything new is with 6.5. why you dont like the start menu is beyond me. the old style start menu is so dumb and is one of the (if not the)number one complaints of WM. 6.5 is where it's at and the future. I'd be tempted to offer a bounty to NOT work on 6.1 anymore as that will stunt the developement and growth of 6.5 and 7 (hopefully very soon).. Most, if not all, the big name chefs have now finalized their 6.1 roms and moved on to 6.5. I would focus your bounty money on working out a custom start menu or whatever to fix what you dont like in 6.5 because it is so far superior to 6.1 it's not funny.
Wow. I hate 6.1 so much that I started using Android exclusively. Can't believe anyone would want a 6.1 ROM let along pay for it. Not trying to be rude. Just saying
I have tried 6.5 for a week and went back to 6.1
Phone was really slow and i find titanium plug-in really useless.
Start menu better in 6.5 then in 6.1 ? Maybe ....i use Quickmenu anyways!
So yea 6.1 rules !!
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I would be all for it as well. Not a big fan of 6.5 yet. But I think about the only thing that can be updated on 6.1 now is some of the apps. I think there has not been any new 6.1 sys released since the release of NSFAN's last 6.1 roms. I am so used to M2D now that I don't want to switch to a different UI until I get a new phone, and I don't know when that will be.
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NFSFANs 6.5 V12 ROM has Manila2D in it. 6.5 is way more finger friendly and has purdy icons too!
If the start menu in 6.5 is so "finger friendly", why do I keep launching applications when I am simply trying to scroll the list? There should be some dead space between the icons in the start menu, IMO. And I still think M2D in 6.5 defeats the purpose of 6.5. Titanium is the new interface with 6.5 and I am not that fond of it. To each his own. This is exactly why there is a thing called variety.
Try reflashing!
If you have problems with WM6.5's scrolling, I strongly suggest flashing the ROM 3 times in a row (wich should be done for any custom ROM to work well, btw).
The scrolling and response of the screen is 100 times better on WM6.5 than on 6.1.
You don't have to use Titanium, you simply take it off the Today screen items and use the built in manilla (touchflo).
The only difference will be that the start menu will have bigger icons (wich is more finger friendly and scrolls just as well as an iPhone) but the interface will look the same as with WM6.1 with manilla 2D. You can even use the reStart app. and organise your start menu just the way you prefer!
You should definitely give it another try! But remember to flash the 6.5 ROM 3 times and also, flash from a original 6.1 ROM and not from a custom one.
Hey guys. I notices i'm starting to get a debate here. That's not why I started this thread. I appreciate some of your guys advice, but believe me I have more than one 6900. One with 6.1 and one with 6.5. I do know the difference between them. The whole reason I started this thread is because my personal prefence is 6.1. I strongly believe there are others who feel the same way I do. I would really appreciate if we could stay on topic here. That is people that want to support and update for the 6.1 sprint rom. I just have to say to all others, if you would like to pm me with other suggestions that's fine, but please don't clog my thread up. I'm hoping toget support from you out there so we might be able to get a 6.1 update. Thanks everyone. T M Z
Sorry if you feel this is polution but the thing is, this thread shouldn't even exist if you understood what we mean:
WM6.5 is the updated WM6.1... They could have called it 6.1b if they wanted to...
Globaly, you should see this as an evolution of Windows Mobile 6. The 6.5 ROM is WM6 and any 6.X ROM is an evolution but is still WM6...
It's like if you told microsoft to keep supporting and improving Windows XP SP1 because you don't like what they did with SP2 or SP3... It is still Windows XP anyways...
Well WM6.5 is still WM6 just like WM6.1 was... You can do exactly the same things as with 6.1, but better.
You can decide not to upgrade to 6.5 if you wish, that is fine , but there is nothing more that can be improved in 6.1. If you want to make your ROM better than the actual 6.1, there is only one option: 6.5.
Once again, the only reason you had a bad experience is from bad installation of the 6.5 ROM. Just try and you'll see! Like my mom said to me: You'll thank me later...
Have you guys read the thread? All those issues with speed and response are solved by flashing to a stock ROM then flashing to NFSFAN's ROM. Ultimately choice is why we are all here so if 6.1 is your cup of tea then knock yourselves out.
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Hey guys. I notices i'm starting to get a debate here. That's not why I started this thread. I appreciate some of your guys advice, but believe me I have more than one 6900. One with 6.1 and one with 6.5. I do know the difference between them. The whole reason I started this thread is because my personal prefence is 6.1. I strongly believe there are others who feel the same way I do. I would really appreciate if we could stay on topic here. That is people that want to support and update for the 6.1 sprint rom. I just have to say to all others, if you would like to pm me with other suggestions that's fine, but please don't clog my thread up. I'm hoping toget support from you out there so we might be able to get a 6.1 update. Thanks everyone. T M Z
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And again, your thread makes no sense. Again, what is there to upgrade on 6.1? As has been said, 6.5 IS the update of 6.1. If you don't like the update, then don't do it. Otherwise, make a list of what YOU want 6.5 to be and send that to Microsoft. Either live with 6.1 or go to 6.5, but there will be NO major revisions to 6.1 EVER again. As I said, it's dead and wasting developer time on it is detrimental to the evolution of our WM phones.
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And again, your thread makes no sense. Again, what is there to upgrade on 6.1? As has been said, 6.5 IS the update of 6.1. If you don't like the update, then don't do it. Otherwise, make a list of what YOU want 6.5 to be and send that to Microsoft. Either live with 6.1 or go to 6.5, but there will be NO major revisions to 6.1 EVER again. As I said, it's dead and wasting developer time on it is detrimental to the evolution of our WM phones.
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Very well said
I don't see why you guys have to bash him. He wanted to start a thread like this, in the hopes that I update 6.1. I told him that I will update it if it is worth my time, and there is more than just one request.
Neither 6.1 nor 6.5 UI is of interest to me (nor is TF2D) - I layer SPB Shell on top. Given that, I much prefer the stability of 6.1 over 6.5, and would love to see NFSFAN continue to update 6.1 - assuming there are still improvements to be made.
NFSFAN Roms are the best out there!
I mean really is this a community or a mob? Cause I mean, if the guy likes 6.1 better then he does, it's his choice...Personally I love 6.1 more than 6.5 because it's more stable and has a better feel to it
So if you want to bash me as well then go ahead, but I will warn you....you will not like me at the end of it
Winmo6.1 versus 6.5 is not like xp sp1 versus xp sp2.
Winmo 6.0 and 6.1 are like XP
Winmo 6.5 is like Vista
Winmo 7.0 will be like, well Windows 7
Would everyone agree Vista is better than XP??
Yes 6.5 is more finger friendly, personally I like the new start menu, scrolling, and while not the best, the new PIE is a step up as well. I still prefer M2d to titanium and always will. HTC rocks, can't wait for sense or a qvga m2.5.
6.1 was stable, the last Bell 1.31 was ultra fast (dare I say faster than V12???), stable and everything worked. I am not sure if 1.31 has the "latest" or last 6.1 build number but the OS is not always the only part of a ROM. The parts are what makes up the whole. There has since been new versions of RSS, office, adobe, audio manager, camera, and M2D itself. Sure a guy could try and load up all the latest apps after digging all the latest cabs (if available, or cab up the oem's), but a new packaged 6.1 with all the latest updates that 6.5 offers would certainly appeal to some people.
There was a thread in the base Vogue forum called 6.1 or 6.5? Not many people chimed in there. Perhaps all this discussion would be better moved there and we could respect the original posters wishes of having this as a pledge thread only.
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6.1 was stable, the last Bell 1.31 was ultra fast (dare I say faster than V12???), stable and everything worked.
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I stopped flashing roms after Bell 1.31 just for the exact reason you mentioned. FAST, STABLE AND EVERYTHING WORKED Isn't that all we want? It took NFSFAN a long time of trial and error to reach NIRVANA with 6.1 and it will take a little bit of time to reach that same reliability with 6.5. Until then I will stay with 1.31. I think a lot of people just want the newest 6.5 roms because it is unique and they will sacrifice stability and live with a few things not working yet. I will wait until 6.5 is as reliable as the 1.31 before I flash it.
As for updating 6.1, I can see that it could be tweaked a little but I believe it has reached it limits of perfection.
D.
I'm going to weigh in here too. Like I mentioned in the 6.1 v. 6.5 poll, I stick with 6.1 so I can use my Redfly. I also find the 6.5 interface to be ugly, but like joemike, I use Spb MS3 as my interface. I have used NFSFAN's 6.1 ROM and it worked ok. The bluetooth wouldn't connect with my Redfly and the dialer had serious issues. About half the time I'd go to it, the numbers wouldn't show. The last time it happened was when I was on call and it was 1:30am. The next day I flashed back to the stock Verizon ROM. This is MY phone and MY issues, I don't in any way want to slam what NFSFAN has done! For my purposes, the current 6.1 ROM won't work for me.
Given all that biching ;-) I'd still like to use a custom ROM. My ideal ROM would be very clean, very minimal, fast and stable. I don't want touchflo, manilla, or any "today screen" programs, I use MS3. I'd like the stock bluetooth stack, Office Mobile apps, the CDMA smart dialer, .net 3.5 or 3.7, and that is about it. I don't know anything about cooking ROMs or what makes one fast and stable, but that is where I'd put the emphasis on rather than adding software that gets updated. Since this is my only phone and it needs to be available 24x7 I had to go back to stock, but I'm not done looking for the perfect 6.1 ROM. So far NFSFAN's has come the closest, but I need a couple of tweaks before it will replace the stock version.
However, if I see a new clean 6.1 from NFSFAN, I'll be flashing again ;-)
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I don't see why you guys have to bash him. He wanted to start a thread like this, in the hopes that I update 6.1. I told him that I will update it if it is worth my time, and there is more than just one request.
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Agreed, when I was posting every day in Nfsfan's vogue rom thread,
there were a few handfuls of people in his thread that asked about updating 6.1 roms.
I say to each his own.
If he wants 6.1, let him have 6.1
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I mean really is this a community or a mob? Cause I mean, if the guy likes 6.1 better then he does, it's his choice...Personally I love 6.1 more than 6.5 because it's more stable and has a better feel to it
So if you want to bash me as well then go ahead, but I will warn you....you will not like me at the end of it
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haha, quick, lets flood whosdaman's inbox with messages aobut how lame 6.1 is!!! lets go!!!
jmitr said:
Winmo6.1 versus 6.5 is not like xp sp1 versus xp sp2.
Winmo 6.0 and 6.1 are like XP
Winmo 6.5 is like Vista
Winmo 7.0 will be like, well Windows 7
Would everyone agree Vista is better than XP??
Yes 6.5 is more finger friendly, personally I like the new start menu, scrolling, and while not the best, the new PIE is a step up as well. I still prefer M2d to titanium and always will. HTC rocks, can't wait for sense or a qvga m2.5.
6.1 was stable, the last Bell 1.31 was ultra fast (dare I say faster than V12???), stable and everything worked. I am not sure if 1.31 has the "latest" or last 6.1 build number but the OS is not always the only part of a ROM. The parts are what makes up the whole. There has since been new versions of RSS, office, adobe, audio manager, camera, and M2D itself. Sure a guy could try and load up all the latest apps after digging all the latest cabs (if available, or cab up the oem's), but a new packaged 6.1 with all the latest updates that 6.5 offers would certainly appeal to some people.
There was a thread in the base Vogue forum called 6.1 or 6.5? Not many people chimed in there. Perhaps all this discussion would be better moved there and we could respect the original posters wishes of having this as a pledge thread only.
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I beg to differ, vista is horrible.
you can't compare 6.5 to it. haha