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Hi all, for the last few months I have tried various Universal ROMs and even various WM5 phones including HTC and HP iPAQ, there are some commond issues which I haven't been able to figure out a permanent solution (work arounds are available though not ideal), these are:
- SIP (System Input Panel), if you install any additional SIP like SPB fullscreen keyboard, Monster SIP etc, every time after you soft reset the device, unless you load them up straight away, you will not be able to load them up after a few minutes (don't know exactly how long) until next reset!! This is a great pain, I have found a SIP changer program which automatically load a SIP after soft reset, but I will really love a permanent solution.
- Bluetooth problem with Tomtom 6 (TT6). With lots of AKU versions of WM5 (apart from Helmi AKU 3.3 I tried so far, haven't tried it with Helmi AKU 3.5 though so I can't be sure with that version) every time I start up TT 6 it asks me to enter the passcode to pair my BT GPS receiver again even though I have done it 100 times already!! Again I have seen this issue on other WM5 devices in addition to Universal so I am wondering if any one has a solution.
Thanks!
kevin.jiang said:
- Bluetooth problem with Tomtom 6 (TT6). With lots of AKU versions of WM5 (apart from Helmi AKU 3.3 I tried so far, haven't tried it with Helmi AKU 3.5 though so I can't be sure with that version) every time I start up TT 6 it asks me to enter the passcode to pair my BT GPS receiver again even though I have done it 100 times already!! Again I have seen this issue on other WM5 devices in addition to Universal so I am wondering if any one has a solution.
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I've never seen this problem on either my Universal, or my friend's Wizard (which I set up for them).
I don't know if this is the "standard" way, but basically, I pair the GPS device (a BT-77 in our cases), and then setup an outgoing COM port to it, and then simply tell TomTom to attach to that COM port. In fact, I have two BT-77s, one set to COM0 in the car, and a hand-held one on COM4, and I can switch to my heart's content, and have never been asked to re-pair.
Cheers,
Steve.
kevin.jiang said:
- SIP (System Input Panel), if you install any additional SIP like SPB fullscreen keyboard, Monster SIP etc, every time after you soft reset the device, unless you load them up straight away, you will not be able to load them up after a few minutes (don't know exactly how long) until next reset!! This is a great pain, I have found a SIP changer program which automatically load a SIP after soft reset, but I will really love a permanent solution.
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I know many SIP can not be able load out. Did you solve this? or how to load them with permanent solution?
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I have found a SIP changer program which automatically load a SIP after soft reset, but I will really love a permanent solution.
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i've installed a hebrew sip but i dont have a problem loading it anytime i want.
although, sometimes i have a problem composing a new text message. the device gets stuck sometimes if the keyboard it not opened when i click "new".
happends only with helmi's 3.5 and with the hebrew keyboard. doesn't happen with default SIPs.
whats te program you found to load the all the SIPs?
is it "SIPz"? (from the same maker of PQz).
I have the same problem with blue thooth and CoPilot I use. The software is iGo. I tried several roms, but after I switch off the GPS and switch it on, it always wants to pair with Uni again.
StevePritchard said:
I've never seen this problem on either my Universal, or my friend's Wizard (which I set up for them).
I don't know if this is the "standard" way, but basically, I pair the GPS device (a BT-77 in our cases), and then setup an outgoing COM port to it, and then simply tell TomTom to attach to that COM port. In fact, I have two BT-77s, one set to COM0 in the car, and a hand-held one on COM4, and I can switch to my heart's content, and have never been asked to re-pair.
Cheers,
Steve.
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Thanks for the suggestion Steve, I have indeed paired the BT GPS receiver, created the outgoing port as COM4 (actually I also tried other available ones) and point TT6 to it. I have been using this BT GPS receiver for over 2 years with various devices including my good old HP iPAQ H4150. This problem didn't happen with my Universal's original Orange SPV M5000 ROM and it doesn't happen with Helmi's AKU 3.3/3.5 ROM either which is the main reason why I am using AKU 3.3 now.
I have this problem on JWright's i-mate AKU 3.2 ROM, my wife's HP iPAQ rw6828 (WM5 AKU 2.3), my friend's T-Mobile MDA Vario II (HTC Hermes, WM5 AKU 2.3).
vuquan said:
I know many SIP can not be able load out. Did you solve this? or how to load them with permanent solution?
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No good solution and I am wondering if anybody else knows how to solve it. I have tried hacking the registry to make my additional SIP default and I ended up with my universal not being to boot until a hard reset. The work around is this SIPChange attached, basically you set which one you want as default, then every time you soft reset it loads that SIP automatically before it becomes impossible to load it.
kevin.jiang said:
Thanks for the suggestion Steve, I have indeed paired the BT GPS receiver, created the outgoing port as COM4 (actually I also tried other available ones) and point TT6 to it. I have been using this BT GPS receiver for over 2 years with various devices including my good old HP iPAQ H4150. This problem didn't happen with my Universal's original Orange SPV M5000 ROM and it doesn't happen with Helmi's AKU 3.3/3.5 ROM either which is the main reason why I am using AKU 3.3 now.
I have this problem on JWright's i-mate AKU 3.2 ROM, my wife's HP iPAQ rw6828 (WM5 AKU 2.3), my friend's T-Mobile MDA Vario II (HTC Hermes, WM5 AKU 2.3).
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I've not had the problem with either of the O2 ROMs, and Ivan's AKU3.5 test ROM - I haven't tried any other ROMs. I unticked the "secure connection" - not sure if that's relevant or not.
I found that only COM0 and COM4 seemed to be available for outgoing ports.
Before you go into TT6 - is the GPS device in the device list, along with the outgoing port set up correctly? Do you switch BlueTooth on and off? I have it on all the time - I'm just trying to think of things that might be different in our configs.
Cheers,
Steve.
I have both TT6 and iGO 2006 on my XDA Exec. The TT6 (and TT5 before that) always worked well with the BT-77 by simply pairing the GPS to the XDA EXEC on a COM port and selecting that COM port in TT6.
With iGO 2006, on the same XDA EXEC, it will ask to pair the BT-77 every time I launch iGO 2006. The only solution I could find was to use Franson's GPSGate to create Virtual COM ports for the BT-77 and to select this virtual COM port in iGO 2006.
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I've not had the problem with either of the O2 ROMs, and Ivan's AKU3.5 test ROM - I haven't tried any other ROMs. I unticked the "secure connection" - not sure if that's relevant or not.
I found that only COM0 and COM4 seemed to be available for outgoing ports.
Before you go into TT6 - is the GPS device in the device list, along with the outgoing port set up correctly? Do you switch BlueTooth on and off? I have it on all the time - I'm just trying to think of things that might be different in our configs.
Steve.
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Thanks for the advise, I have tried unticking "secure connection" as well and it didn't help.
From what I am gathering in the information supplied it looks to be caused by a combination of the BT GPS receiver, the WM5 and the Sat Nav software.
I can't remember what make and model my BT GPS receiver is because I bought it over 2 years ago and back then I didn't care what model it is. Now that I can't tell it from looking at the outside of this thing.
This is a wierd problem as with different combination of the GPS reciver, WM5 and software it may or may not happen. What I was having that problem using Tomtom 6 I tried the GPSInfo shareware and it didn't ask me to pair every time. Very strange, anyway I am alright now with Helmi's AKU 3.3 using COM5 as the port with my good old BT GPS receiver and TT6.
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No good solution and I am wondering if anybody else knows how to solve it. I have tried hacking the registry to make my additional SIP default and I ended up with my universal not being to boot until a hard reset. The work around is this SIPChange attached, basically you set which one you want as default, then every time you soft reset it loads that SIP automatically before it becomes impossible to load it.
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Thank you so much! it work on my device.
Hi, i've upgraded my Tytn succesfully to WM6 Black Edition, works like a charm, great performance (better then WM5) only one major problem is that i cannot activate Rsap with "sapsettings" that doesn't seem available. I've downloaded the "ActivateMSBluetoothSAPProfile.cab" from another ROM but that gives an error.
Is there a ROM that has "Sapsettings" in the programs? I'd install that one then.
Any help is appreciated. Thnx.
Hi, I've had the same problem after upgrading my Hermes 300 to 3DES.3
I was missing the SAP or rSAP, which I needed for my Passat.
I found an OEM package here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal_WM6_Kitchen_Helmi
and downloaded the btsapprofile (direct link: ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Universal/helmi_c/Kitchen_OEM/btsapprofile.v1.45.rar)
Extract the content of this file to your PC. Copy SAPSettings.lnk to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs on your phone.
Copy SAPSettings.exe.0409.mui, sapsettings.htm, SAPSettings.exe, SALib.dll, BtSim.exe to \Windows on your phone.
Go to Programs on your phone - you should find a working link to SAP settings.
This did the trick for me.
Cheers - mgruett
You are my hero! Works 100%. Thank you!
While looking into this issue i found anothern, maybe easier solution together with my collegues (same problem here, for the VW Passat fleet)
Just open this file, unrar, copy .cab file on your Hermes, execute, softreset and off you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29801&d=1155792304
tested it on 2 Hermes with WM6 and it works flawlessly.
rSAP with TyTN, s620 and Wizard
Hi,
when you're saying "100% working" and "works flawlessly" do you mean you have the Icon in your program folder or is it really working well with your car-kit ? Make phonecalls, Syncs phonebook etc. ???
I've a carkit from THB (bury) since ages in my car and upgraded the phone holders from old nokias up to the LT9100 with rSAP. As rSap pops up, I was 100% sure that this is the solution I'm looking for.
Since 6 months now, I try to get that damn thing working. It always fails with "Sim Card missing / not found". I could pair, it connects to the phone, disables the phone-module, but I couldn't dial a number, nor could I sync the phone book.
I tried it with Blueangel, Wizard, TyTN and my brandnew S620 without succes. I tried it with PPC 2003, WM5 and WM6 Roms, no chance. Of course, I followed the hints in the forum.
I sent the carkit to Bury to upgrade to the latest firmware and guess what ... nothing, always the same problem with Windows Devices, but my Nokia 9300 connects well in a second.
So, bottom line, I'm not sure if it is a Bury Problem with a bad rSAP support for WM or a WM Problem as my Nokia connects well.
Any thought or tipp is highly appreciated
Thanks
Chris
I just tried the download from WDawn (thanks incidentally) and aside from it resetting my background to the windows default, worked just fine. Enabled SAP, gave the phone a poke up the rear and tried it on a Nokia 616 car kit. This car kit uses SAP if available, otherwise falls back to HFP. It quite happily connected via SAP. Next text with be the Mercedes Bluetooth module, which would have to be the fussiest car unit I've ever come across and it only supports SAP (no HFP, HSP.. or other fall back).
The phone used is a DoPod 838 Pro running the newly released official WM6 ROM. I never had this success with the cooked LVSW ROMs that I used in the past.
Alex.
Progress but still troubled
WDawn said:
While looking into this issue i found anothern, maybe easier solution together with my collegues (same problem here, for the VW Passat fleet)
Just open this file, unrar, copy .cab file on your Hermes, execute, softreset and off you go.
forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29801&d=155792304
tested it on 2 Hermes with WM6 and it works flawlessly.
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Hello!
I have a HP Ipaq 914c and having troubles connecting with the VW Passat.
Here are the steps that I have made so far. Any help will be much appreciated.
1) Initialy on the VW menu searched for BT phones. Detected mine but whenever I selected it, returned back with the message: "Phone not compatible"
2) Dicovered here this tool BTSAP_Test, installed on the Ipaq and activated the "Remote SIM Access" checkbox button
3) VW now is able to pair with the phone (after inputing the 16 code number) but immediatly after pairing says that "Bluetooth is not activated on phone" ...
4) Looking on BT devices in IPAQ I can now see a device named "VW UHV PREM", but the only available service to use for this device is "Dialup Networking".
Am I missing something ? Thanks.
I'm using HTC Trinity WM6 and wish to use my old Stowaway universal Bluetooth keyboard working? i cannot find driver for WM6. anyone have it?
please help!! i love my BT keyboard and wish to get it work again.
thanks
Attached is the driver I use for my Kaiser WM6/6.1, dunno if it'll work on your Trinity or not.
If not here is the drivers page: http://corporate.igo.com/support/Drivers.asp. Just choose your manufacturer and model.
Note that WM6 comes with basic keyboard drivers -- you only need to install a driver if you want to use special functionality such as customized keys. I use the built-in drivers on my Kaiser with a BT keyboard (not the Stowaway, but supposedly compatible).
htc tytn II and sierra bt keyboard
everybody,
trying to connect / use my new sierra bt keyboard with my htc tytn II and nothing works,.... if i go through the htc the keyboard is detected, asks for a security code, does not recognise the one i put in, (although the instructions say pick one of your choice), and does not connect.
if i go through the keyboard CAB installed on the htc, still cannot connect,.... i am not exactly a 'newbie' but if someone could give a step by step direction on how to get this to work, i would be very grateful,....
thanks,
ek
sorry everyone, i used elyspar's CAB file on my htc tytn II,.... thanks for your help,....ek
found a vid on youtube very helpful,.... it's actually quite simple to connect, so maybe i need to retract, i am a newbie,....
here's the link, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8HAge9yJu4
no functionality though, just basic input, good for emails / word, but limited,....
guess i have to install the driver on my kaiser somehow,....
Hi everybody, can you tell me which driver i have to install for my Niki? It's not on the list...
Thank you very much.
ekacz24 said:
everybody,
trying to connect / use my new sierra bt keyboard with my htc tytn II and nothing works,.... if i go through the htc the keyboard is detected, asks for a security code, does not recognise the one i put in, (although the instructions say pick one of your choice), and does not connect.
if i go through the keyboard CAB installed on the htc, still cannot connect,.... i am not exactly a 'newbie' but if someone could give a step by step direction on how to get this to work, i would be very grateful,....
thanks,
ek
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I could use an Apple Alu BT KB with HTC TyTN (not II). Paired. Without any special driver. Remember to press Enter on the KB after the code. Now I have a new Touch HD and I get it paired but nothing happens clicking on the keyboard...
I will start installing drivers which I find here suggested and will report.
iGo stowaway BT keyboard and WM6
Hello all,
I originally posted this message in a Blackstone forum, but as this problem probably relates to WM6 in general I thought I would post here
I have an igo bluetooth keyboard and I am using Blackstone phone (running the usual WM6.1 proffessional. I installed the igo software and everything worked fine except that phone crashed a lot. Not so useful. I then uninstalled the software and paired the keyboard using the onboard Bluetooth keyboard drivers. All worked well for one run through and I was able to type away. However I have not got the thing to work again since, even after re-pairing the devices. Does anyone haev any thoughts about what I might be doing wrong?
Thanks.
Tom
Hello Guys, partly not to the topic hear....
I have an igo stowaway keyboard and a travel mouse and i have been using them with my fusi n560 (wm 6.0). Now I bought a Nokia 5800 mobile phone with symbian s60v3 touch. The keyboard came with multiple driver including both wm and symbian versions, but the mause came only with wm driver. Now the question is: do you happen to know how could I use my mouse with my symbian device? Sorry for asking symbian related question here....
Special Characters and the Sierra Stowaway
I have previously used the Sierra Bluetooth Keyboard and it worked flawlessly on my T-Mobile Wing running WM5... I recently tried to port the same driver suggested by ek... (PPC5) to the T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro2, WM6.1.
It works on all keys, including the function keys, but cannot produce the specialty characters on the 5th, number-row, i.e., [email protected]#$%^&*()
Everything else seems to work fine... anybody come across a fix for this?
Thanks!
JSS
I've been interested in acquiring an Apple Wireless Keyboard for my PDA too.
But from skimming other people's post, looking at what was successful on the internet (e.g. the guy on youtube with the Mio who paired with the Apple BT Keyboard), it seems that all the success stories come from people running WM5/6
Anything 6.1 and above seems to not work in general, although you have some success stories like from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486595
Has anyone successfully paired with 6.1-6.5?
jstapley said:
I have previously used the Sierra Bluetooth Keyboard and it worked flawlessly on my T-Mobile Wing running WM5... I recently tried to port the same driver suggested by ek... (PPC5) to the T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro2, WM6.1.
It works on all keys, including the function keys, but cannot produce the specialty characters on the 5th, number-row, i.e., [email protected]#$%^&*()
Everything else seems to work fine... anybody come across a fix for this?
Thanks!
JSS
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I have similar problems with my Samsung Omnia, WM6.1 and the German Stowaway Keyboard (QWERTZ) with the driver 4.51.
Just the keys !$& are not working.
Could there be a workaround like using ASCI numbers?
I tried ALT+33 to get a "!" but had no success.
Does anybody else has some suggestions?
Thanks,
Sigi
sigi-s said:
I have similar problems with my Samsung Omnia, WM6.1 and the German Stowaway Keyboard (QWERTZ) with the driver 4.51.
Just the keys !$& are not working.
Could there be a workaround like using ASCI numbers?
I tried ALT+33 to get a "!" but had no success.
Does anybody else has some suggestions?
Thanks,
Sigi
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I solved my problem:
I installed the English driver 4.52
(I have an English ROM and use a German Keyboard)
The driver was changed from version Ger4.51 to Eng4.52 on several places and I think they solved some Bugs.
I resetted my Omnia after the installation.
Because the problem still existed, I resetted the Omnia once again, while the Stowaway keyboard was selected in the keyboard menu.
After that reset all the characters worked like the should.
Hope that helps.
First of all: For about a year, the keyboard was working fine, using thinkoutside 4.52 official driver. Then I got a nice gift: logitech V470 BT laser mouse. Then the hell begun. How in the world connect it to the PDA?
Someone on this forum claimed that V470 works on HTC Athena out-of-the-box, using included in wm6/wm6.1 bluetooth hid stack. For some reason, after I pair the mouse and check input device in BT services list - nothing happens. I tried:
- uninstalling ThinkOutsde driver - the even keyboard stopped working, even thi I paired it and checked input device,
- bluemouse/ blueinput - it says BT on, mouse off. On their site I read it's probably due to incompatible BT stack. No chances of telling what BT stack is installed on PPC... :/
- using hacked version of stowaway keyboard/mouse driver. I got "keyboard not working / please reinstall stowawayxt.dll" error. I checked - hacked one has 162kB, the one from 4.52 - 59kB and is signed, while hacked one is not. WTF?
- I know, that stowaway disables built-in HID, but even when I'm enabling it again, nothing is happening.
- Deep search on google on v470, bluetooth hid, bluetooth at all on PDAs, bt stacks and such revealed nothing. Please, help!
http://monety.piloty.eu/monety2000.html
Hard: HTC Artemis
ROM: Wm6.1 Vanilla/WWE 4.01
Hello Vartharian, did you ever have any luck getting the Bluetooth mouse to work? I too am trying to find a solution, but I lack the hacked thinkoutside files to work from.
If you have one I can take a look and see if I can reverse engineer a fix.
Thanks,
Peter
pdamouse said:
Hello Vartharian, did you ever have any luck getting the Bluetooth mouse to work? I too am trying to find a solution, but I lack the hacked thinkoutside files to work from.
If you have one I can take a look and see if I can reverse engineer a fix.
Thanks,
Peter
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Some kind of BlueTek (or something) drivers for WinMo to enable BT mouse use. Found them in some download somewhere in the tubes, look for "BlueMouse driver" or something. Installs driver and settings panel. Hope this helps. Maybe then you could get some sweet Quake action going.
Hi all, I currently have an out of contract Tytn II and am looking to upgrade to a Touch Pro 2 soon. I notice that the bluetooth stack appears to have changed and I wondered if anyone knows whether the bluetooth gamepad will work with it? I tried without success to make my gamepad work with my Tytn II and had the same problem with my old Wizard in that it refused to connect. Installing the Widcomm stack on my Wizard made it connect but I have my Tytn II by then. Does anyone know if it works with this new stack? Cheers.
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Hi all, I currently have an out of contract Tytn II and am looking to upgrade to a Touch Pro 2 soon. I notice that the bluetooth stack appears to have changed and I wondered if anyone knows whether the bluetooth gamepad will work with it? I tried without success to make my gamepad work with my Tytn II and had the same problem with my old Wizard in that it refused to connect. Installing the Widcomm stack on my Wizard made it connect but I have my Tytn II by then. Does anyone know if it works with this new stack? Cheers.
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The new stack on the Rhodium is a Widcomm stack, no idea if it works with the gamepad though, but can gaurantee that if it doesn't now, it will be able to in the future. I thought the Wizard had a Widcomm stack by default too........
Cheers,
Beasty
is the bluetooth stack from Broadcom or Widcomm?
gamepad
i heard the gamepad would work with magician. i did some testing with my ralph and got the gamepad to scroll around my menus but my games would not render after installing gamepad drivers. (pocketnester and pac-man) couldnt say why however. with my tp2 i have had very little luck. (i was able to setup a serial port but that was it)
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i heard the gamepad would work with magician. i did some testing with my ralph and got the gamepad to scroll around my menus but my games would not render after installing gamepad drivers. (pocketnester and pac-man) couldnt say why however. with my tp2 i have had very little luck. (i was able to setup a serial port but that was it)
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What is magician? Also, on your TP2 do you know what bluetooth stack you are using? and do you run Win Mo 6.1 or 6.5.x?