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ActiveSync via wifi is awsome, but one question remains

I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle. So far I haven't had the troubles that I have had when I used the cable and cradle. No more inactive activesync, can't synchronize errors, and having to restart activesync every few hours or so.
I managed to have activesync running for 2 days straight without any problems and restart of any sorts. This leads me to beleive that using wifi with activesync is more stable than using a usb/cradle.
My question is, can I completely abandon the USB/cradle when upgrading ROM, app installs, or anything that has to do with using the cradle and usb cables?

I don't know the answer for certain but I should think so.
What I need to know is how to sync using wifi without it trying to access GPRS instead.
Any ideas?

My 2s is configured to access wifi first (I think the setting is under the wifi config). If wifi isn't available, then it tried to access GPRS. My carrier charges an arm and a leg to use gprs, so I never configure the phone to access my carrier's GPRS. I rely on free public WIFI access and my home WIFI access to do all my internet jobs.

You'll still need the USB for ROM updates; everything else you can do over WiFi or BT.

wifi
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.

@3waygeek, Thanks as I have not tried update anything since I pay a service to upgrade my things on my PPC. Sprite also does not like to backup via WiFi. I had to connect the PPC to the cradle.
@hoobas, I have WinXp/Sp2 installed. I have not had any problems connecting other than the occasional ActiveSync annoyance when I'm connecting with the USB cable. I'm sorry that I can't help you. I have not experience your problems so I can not give you a diagnosis.

wifi and MS Activsync
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem

ActiveSync starts automiatically on USB, serial, and Bluetooth connections. You'll have to use the ActiveSync link located on your PPC to connect to the PC via WiFi. This is assuming that ActiveSync does work on both your PPC and desktop. So it's best to connect to ActiveSync at least once via cradle before going ActiveSync via WiFi.
Only install ActiveSync on either your lappy or your deskop, but not on both. One limitation with ActiveSync is that you can not use more than two partnerships without some fiddling around with your PPC and your networked PC.

About Cradle ActiveSync.
Uninstall ActiveSync -> Reboot PC -> Reinstall Active Sync 3.8 and don't touch any thing or open any programs while installation is in progress.
Mine is working like a charm

nomadman said:
I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle.
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How did you do it?
I've used the search function but I couldn't find anything about it.
Thanks,
Dino

OK, got it to work, too. Very nice
But I had to set my Network Connection from "Internet" to "Work".
Is it possible to use both settings? My Wireless LAN connects also
to the internet, so I won't switch everytime I want to sync or surf.
Dino

Re: wifi
hoobas said:
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.
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Hi hoobas, how do you configure your laptap wifi for peer-to-peer? (this is quite off topic ) been trying to do this for sometime. thanks

Here is a great site site that might help some of you guys out.
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/installation.htm#Installation:

hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...

hoobas said:
hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...
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Thanks a lot how about the settings on the computer side?

Re: wifi and MS Activsync
azeemakhtar said:
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem
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In the network settings of yr phone, enter the ip address of machine you want to sync with as WINS server. That will tell yr phone which machine it has to connect to. You can set up peak and offpeak timings in the mobile schedule of activsync on ye PDA, so that it can sync every 10 or 15 mins .

Sorry if my question is too noobish. I have read so many articles talking about establishing wifi sync between a wifi enabled PPC and a wifi enabled PC, but havent been able to do yet. Do i have to have another software to enable the connection ?
Can any one please explain slowly and in detail how you could do that, i've been searching for quite a long time but still no result. And 1 more question is that after i can sync through wifi between my O22s and my laptop, does it affect the wifi connection of my laptop and my O22s? A bit silly right but i'm a new user and i'm not in IT field also. Thanks for any suggestion from you guys.

@azeemakhtar,
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/multiplepartnerships.htm
@ducga,
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
* The above procedure should be able to get activesync working via wifi as long as there isn't a setting problem in your router managment or firewall.
* The above precedure should work if your are able to connect to the interent on your PPC via wifi.

nomadman said:
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
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I also have to do the following:
3a. Click Start / settings / connections / Network cards
3b. Select Network Adapters
3c. Change 'My network card connects to' from 'The Internet' change to 'Work'
3d. Close, reset (for luck)
3e. Open ActiveSync on your desktop PC, select File / connection settings / and tick allow Network Ethernet !!
4. Now when you click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button - it won't try to use GPRS to connect and WiFi will be listed as your Work connection.
I always have to change my network card settings back to 'The Internet' before I can browse again.
Rich

Re: wifi and MS Activsync
azeemakhtar said:
i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
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Go to ActiveSync on your XDA, click tools, options.
It will say "When syncing remotely with a PC Use this PC:"
It should list the network name of the PC you currently have a partnership with. i.e. "TOMSLAPTOP"
Rich

How can I share my 3G with wifi?

Can some one tell me how to share my 3G connection over wifi? I need to make the phone as a portable access point.

no can do.
Bluetooth or USB

Try hitchhiker it's free! but I'm not sure if it works for sharing using 3G... try it and let me know http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/

No, It doesn't support to share the 3G connection.

So use Internet sharing over BT ?

Would like to use it as a wireless access point, so I can get access from computer and iPhone, seem like I have hard time to find a solution.

share the connection with the PC by USB. Put a wifi stick/pcicard in the PC and bridge the connections, then the iFoon can have 3G too

Maarten_NL said:
share the connection with the PC by USB. Put a wifi stick/pcicard in the PC and bridge the connections, then the iFoon can have 3G too
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you got this to work?
or are you saying it should work?
i have tried to share a connection this way but have had no luck when using internet connection sharing/pan.
i did get it to work this way back in the day when the phone ran wm5 and had dun.
do you have any pointers on how to get internet connection sharing in wm6 to let more than one device connect to the 3g connection?

acem77 said:
you got this to work?
or are you saying it should work?
i have tried to share a connection this way but have had no luck when using internet connection sharing/pan.
i did get it to work this way back in the day when the phone ran wm5 and had dun.
do you have any pointers on how to get internet connection sharing in wm6 to let more than one device connect to the 3g connection?
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seems like you may need an app on your pc to manage/route the connections not sure if this helps but you can try "network Magic" it give you a bit more options on the pc side for managing connections. would like to see where this goes for possible future applications. i'll give it a try when i have some free time and check with an comp tek friend of mine see what he thinks.

Yeah it sucks that no one has created a way to share the wifi connection just like we share bluetooth or usb.
We also need a proxy server that we can run on our phone.

ok, for me the boring part is the time of the connection, you can share via wifi by just turning on your internet sharing in whatever the pc connection, you just need to manually deffine your hermes wifi to 192.168.0.1 and it shares via internet sharing! The question here is that the connections stops after 10 minutes becouse of the warnig "check usb cable connection". Its very irritating to have to start connection every 10 min. !!!!!

awww...iPhones not fast enough Data-Wise for ya?
thought it was supposed to "revolutionize PDA Phones"
hah.
sorry, i had to add my 2¢ against Apple.

Beware, some mobile provider allready use NAT, thus you'll recieve a non-routable IP. I am not sure that you will be able to share a connection of this kind.

Turn any windows mobile into WIFI router

This application lets you use your phone as WIFI router without setting up anything in device. Let me if you guys like it.

This application has its own thread here on XDA-Developers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357152. Don't really see the point of you posting the CAB here.. without all the information needed.

Well this message, in the wrong place, introduced me to your excellent application!
thank you

How do you turn off this wifirouter?? i got it working and works fine although i cant get my archos gen 5 to pick it up but i tuned it off but my computer still picks it up although it cnt connect to it

the app is connected but i am not connected to the internet on my laptop...any answers? i tried resetting a bunch of times

is it the trial version or the real thing? is there a free way of doing it.. does it work for windows 5

infrastructure mode?
is there a way to broadcast in infrastructure mode, instead of ad hoc? i would love to use a zune hd with this, but it is not able to see ad hoc networks. thanks.

???
the SSID is not showing up in my computer. All others (mine and my neighbors wireless connections) are showing up.

How to get my playstation 3 2 work with this router
Hi i am so damn frusterated right now with this. How do i get my ps3 to work with this router thing. My computer connects to it and recieves wifi. But when i try to find it with my ps3 it wont detect it. Does any one know how do i get this 2 work.

try this
1. connect ur trinity to ur laptop / pc via USB and run "internet sharing" on your trinity.
2. Set up an Ad-Hoc connection on your PC / Laptop and directly connect ur PS3 to it.
3. In network settings on your PC / Laptop click the ad-hoc connection icon and the windows mobile based device icon (Ctrl-Left click each one) right click one of them when their both selected and click on bridge connection from the drop down menu.
this method's a bit of a potch to set up but once its running it works perfectly and you only have to set it up once. it also lets you use the internet on your pc and ps3 at the same time.

I'm pretty late to this and NEW (newbie), but I wanted to make a quick post about it's use on my Imagio winmo 6.5 OS 5.2.21... no mods, no roms burned and this works perfectly. Now I can surf at work without the assistance of our helpful IT friends LOL.

rhino13 said:
Hi i am so damn frusterated right now with this. How do i get my ps3 to work with this router thing. My computer connects to it and recieves wifi. But when i try to find it with my ps3 it wont detect it. Does any one know how do i get this 2 work.
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Your laptop or pc picks up adhoc signals aswell as infrastructure, to be quiet honest, this app is very useless when advertised as a router, doesn't route anything if just limited to adhoc, adhoc = computer to computer connections, not a router to me at all! Its a very nice app for many other things though.. I see someone giving you instructions for 'ICS' doing all that just makes it all pointless and you may aswell just get a home router connected to house line!

This is one of my favourite apps. I've been using it for a long time now and just awesome.

ppatel223 said:
This application lets you use your phone as WIFI router without setting up anything in device. Let me if you guys like it.
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Really love this app. Only problem is that it worked great the first time I launched it. Now it can't connect. It just keeps on cycling trying to connect to att gprs and finally says "the remote party has ended this connection". Any ideas?

hdhodges said:
Really love this app. Only problem is that it worked great the first time I launched it. Now it can't connect. It just keeps on cycling trying to connect to att gprs and finally says "the remote party has ended this connection". Any ideas?
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It sounds like possibly your connection settings have been erased. Can you get internet in Explorer, etc? If so, please disregard this...

how do i load it in my phone

thanks for the share , can you explain how the procedure works , I want to create applications like these but still don't understand their concept

Closing as this is a duplicate thread for this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357152

PC Internet Pass Through

Sorry, I really have searched everything I can think of. I have looked all over, I am just trying to find out what the regedit is to use the internet connection on my computer via usb on my t-mobile dash. I am running WM6.1 and have no signal over here for my phone. internet on the computer yes, but dash no. Does anyone know or know where I can look for it? I promise I have searched.

wm1 said:
Sorry, I really have searched everything I can think of. I have looked all over, I am just trying to find out what the regedit is to use the internet connection on my computer via usb on my t-mobile dash. I am running WM6.1 and have no signal over here for my phone. internet on the computer yes, but dash no. Does anyone know or know where I can look for it? I promise I have searched.
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hook a wifi router up =)
other than that maybe put a bluetooth receiver on the pc and connect the phone to it?

I'm useing kavanas 6.1 rom i tweaked it a little but point being when i plug my dash into my comp and it syncs with active sync my phone accesses my computers internet connection which i think its designed to do. how do your internet and active sync settings look like?
under your USB to PC settings under connections do you have the Enable advanced network functionality checked?

Use ActiveSync to "pass through" this computer. That means the connected device can use the computer's network connection as if it were its own. You can use this feature to perform tasks such as downloading non-Outlook e-mail messages, to connect directly with Microsoft Exchange, or to browse the Internet.
Important Note For additional security, disable network bridging on the PC (specifically, bridging to a Remote NDIS adapter) before connecting to the PC to pass though to the Internet or a network. For more information on network bridging, see Windows Help on the PC.
Click Connection Settings.
Select Open ActiveSync when my device connects.
In the This computer is connected to list, select a connection to which this computer should connected when passing through ActiveSync.
thats from activesyncs help.
i guess i never realized it did that...yet i do it everyday...when its plugged in, edge doesnt even try to connect, it defaults to the pc

Thanks
Ok Gixxum,
You rock, I changed my deal to internet instead of automatic and it worked perfectly. I never thought to look there. Thanks. Now my roomate and I can surf the net at the same time.

wm1 said:
Ok Gixxum,
You rock, I changed my deal to internet instead of automatic and it worked perfectly. I never thought to look there. Thanks. Now my roomate and I can surf the net at the same time.
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rock on brother

Connecting to internet via PC

Hi,
Can we connect our HTC Desire to a PC via USB cable, and then connect to the internet via that PC internet connection?
We are able to use this way on Windows Mobile 6.x + Microsoft ActiveSync.
Thanks.

I think so, please try the following:
* Make sure you have installed HTC Sync first and have your SIM card inserted in your phone.
1. Make sure your phone’s data connection is turned on.
2. Connect the phone to the computer using the USB cable.
3. On the Connect to PC screen, select Internet sharing, and then tap Done.
Hope that works.

Mastoid said:
I think so, please try the following:
* Make sure you have installed HTC Sync first and have your SIM card inserted in your phone.
1. Make sure your phone’s data connection is turned on.
2. Connect the phone to the computer using the USB cable.
3. On the Connect to PC screen, select Internet sharing, and then tap Done.
Hope that works.
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I am wondering, if I have mobile broadband card that I use to catch 3G internet...could I attach the Desire via USB cable to my laptop and share the internet connection between both my laptop and phone?
Not tethering (using phone's internet as main internet source for computer) rather -
Mobile Broadband Card ----> Laptop & Desire?

redrazr7791 said:
I am wondering, if I have mobile broadband card that I use to catch 3G internet...could I attach the Desire via USB cable to my laptop and share the internet connection between both my laptop and phone?
Not tethering (using phone's internet as main internet source for computer) rather -
Mobile Broadband Card ----> Laptop & Desire?
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I'm not entirely sure this would work as the phone might resort to using it's own variety of data plans.

Mastoid said:
I'm not entirely sure this would work as the phone might resort to using it's own variety of data plans.
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Well...I have been wondering if you could share the internet connection from a broadband card between a laptop and mobile phone (connected via USB cable). I guess I will just have to try it out when my phone gets here.

That is the other way around
You have described phone internet sharing or tethering.
What I meant is like this:
1. Your desktop PC is connected to internet
2. Connect your phone to the PC using USB cable
3. You can now browse the internet in your phone ... using internet connection from the PC.
Reverse tethering. We can do this with WM + ActivySync (I dont remember the exact option).
Well, we can forget about this ... I have searched last night and Android simply cant do it.
Why we need this? Sometimes, at work, we cant connect our phone to the office WiFi and 3G is not available.
Mastoid said:
I think so, please try the following:
* Make sure you have installed HTC Sync first and have your SIM card inserted in your phone.
1. Make sure your phone’s data connection is turned on.
2. Connect the phone to the computer using the USB cable.
3. On the Connect to PC screen, select Internet sharing, and then tap Done.
Hope that works.
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I also have this need.
In case HTC ships updates on-the-air it would be much better not to lose some of the limited 2GB data plan per month I have.

Can you not just set up your pc as a wifi access point and the connect your phone via wifi?

That is a way, creating wifi adhoc, but sometimes you cant (restricted by security policy).
wuthton said:
Can you not just set up your pc as a wifi access point and the connect your phone via wifi?
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gogol said:
That is a way, creating wifi adhoc, but sometimes you cant (restricted by security policy).
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Screw security policy! ;?P
Using a adhoc connection would be the simplest (and best?). But if you can't (not allowed) to set up a adhoc connection, you could (unless bridging is forbidden, but then tere's not much you can do..) connect a wifi router/ap to your ethernet card (if it's in use, use a USB-version). Bridge your network connection with the ethernet card and the router/ap and then connect to that..
A long shot? Perhaps! But it should work. If you set the ap to not broadcast its SSID it's harder for others to detect..
And you should be able to run a router/ap on batteries..
Just an idea.. :?D

gogol said:
Reverse tethering. We can do this with WM + ActivySync (I dont remember the exact option).
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Yes, i understand what you mean now, this feature was available on WM and ActiveSync... i remember setting it up while going through the ActiveSync Wizard, but AFAIK, i could not find a similar option for this with the Desire
EDIT: Could you not try setting up Ad-hoc mode on phone and PC (the PC will have a wireless network adaptor), then turn Internet Connection Sharing on in Windows, and connect the phone to the PC?

I did, but it does not work with my work laptop. Probably restricted.
But I found a WiFi access point already Installed by my co-worker ...
Well, this feature is not really important, but useful ...
Mastoid said:
EDIT: Could you not try setting up Ad-hoc mode on phone and PC (the PC will have a wireless network adaptor), then turn Internet Connection Sharing on in Windows, and connect the phone to the PC?
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gogol said:
I did, but it does not work with my work laptop. Probably restricted.
But I found a WiFi access point already Installed by my co-worker ...
Well, this feature is not really important, but useful ...
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I agree and it's a shame... this was useful when I had it working on my WM device.

Mastoid said:
Yes, i understand what you mean now, this feature was available on WM and ActiveSync... i remember setting it up while going through the ActiveSync Wizard, but AFAIK, i could not find a similar option for this with the Desire
EDIT: Could you not try setting up Ad-hoc mode on phone and PC (the PC will have a wireless network adaptor), then turn Internet Connection Sharing on in Windows, and connect the phone to the PC?
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Could someone please explain how to do this. I can see how to set up the ad-hoc network and to set it allow internet sharing. But a wi-fi scan on my HTC Desire does not find the network.

unfortunately reverse tethering or connecting the phone through computer's connection (through an ad hoc wifi) is not possible, which quite frankly is very annoying, hopwfully they will fix this in an upcoming ROM or something.

[q] same prblm but diff device
i have an android tablet. I want 2 connect to the net. But dont have wifi @ home. any way to connect my ericsson phone (or any other 3g modem) via bluetooth or usb(yes the tab acts as a usb mass storage host) to connect to the net as the tab doesn't hav a sim card port. And my tab is Augen Gentouch78 v2 tab not rooted and with stock rom
Any help would be appreciated

gogol said:
Hi,
Can we connect our HTC Desire to a PC via USB cable, and then connect to the internet via that PC internet connection?
We are able to use this way on Windows Mobile 6.x + Microsoft ActiveSync.
Thanks.
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I don't think that there is a way to do this at the moment with out flashing a Rom, however I'm using RCMix S GingerSense Rom, it seems that HTC Sense version 2.1 has added "internet pass-through" as a option when you plug the phone into a PC, however will HTC leave this in if/when they do an official release I don't know.
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Yeah, if you install a sense 2.0 or 2.1 Rom it has an internet pass through option which allows you do do that
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