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I've been using Black (and currently 3.01) but am looking at moving on. Who can give me advise on the pros and cons between Dymond and the LVSW?
If you're concerned about stability, I'd go with vp3G's version of the LVSW ROM. It's the one I keep going back to, and it has the Cingular customization already done. It's excellent work. In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
That is probably my biggest concern, and the reason I left the factory ROM. I'm kind of leaning the LVSW way but want to make sure I'm not passing up something good with Black Dymond. I"m starting to get tired repeatedly setting up my device with all my programs after I move to a new ROM.
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If you're concerned about stability, I'd go with vp3G's version of the LVSW ROM. It's the one I keep going back to, and it has the Cingular customization already done. It's excellent work. In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
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please state what testing u did to justify your claims the dymond is unstable.
Good question Jasjamming. I have to say I am impressed with the number of user using your ROM, and the quality of the threads relating to your work. Can you gave me some advice, please, on what I would gain using your Black Dymond? Thanks...
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Good question Jasjamming. I have to say I am impressed with the number of user using your ROM, and the quality of the threads relating to your work. Can you gave me some advice, please, on what I would gain using your Black Dymond? Thanks...
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speed, stability and the latest RTM Rom (not a MS dogfood rom) available. please see the threads over at 4wm for your self.
Black Dymond has been beta, RC1 and RC2 tested by a user group. Any issues experienced will be isolated based on 3rd party applications. Try it and see for yourself.
If someone posts negative feedback by all means please state what went wrong etc over at 4wm so notes can be taken.
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...clip...In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
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I am also interested to hear what kind of 'testing' you did.
Dymond is Actually Rock-Solid.
A quick point about "dogfood" since its been spun up with a somewhat bad connotation here.
M$ employees run the latest and greatest software from the development groups. They call it "eating their own dogfood". Its a term of endearment on the M$ campus. Every major M$ developer/presenter I spoke with at MEDC this year was running "dogfood" on their device. Generally, "dogfood" is a few point releases in advance of what gets sent to the masses.
Good or bad, buggy or not. You folks decide.
I'm happy to run "dogfood" on my TyTN. Nobody else has it. Case in point: check the Kaiser thread.
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If you're concerned about stability, I'd go with vp3G's version of the LVSW ROM. It's the one I keep going back to, and it has the Cingular customization already done. It's excellent work. In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
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Could not agree more! vp3G's LVSW Re-Cooked version is the "Best Rom by far" very fast and very stable...
Black Dymond is the best Rom.....
I am using black 3.5 since yesterday and so far it has treated me well. I don't see any stability issues.
I have installed some spb programs like weather and some games and the ROM rocks.
I have been on black 2.5 before and that was stable as well. However dymond is noticeably much faster.
I have not tried any other ROMS besides these 2 so I cannot say which one I would favor over the other. I like black and sticking with for now.
I recently flashed the vp3G ROM after using Black 2.5 for about a month. Black 2.5 treated me very well, however I am happier with the vp3G (LSVW derivative). It is much faster and more polished than the Black 2.5 I was using(because it is newer, I suppose). I have been very excted about the 3.xx versions of Black but have yet to try them until I read through all the threads to see if it is a fit for me (3.0/3.1 didn't seem to be the right move). For now, vp3G/LSVW is an excellent ROM for me.
I'm running SPB Diary, MS VC 1.6, VOIP, IM+, SKTools, DinarSoft HandySwitcher, MOBITV, SettingSavior .94, and a bunch of other stuff. No problems AT ALL to report. Program Memory stays solid, device never freezes, and battery lasts the longest.
Hope this helps...
Black Dymond with C-Start : experiencing sync problem
Using Balck Dymond for 12h. Looks quite stable, not to mention the style. Thanks JJ
All functions work well (haven't tested 3G - China not deploying it yet ).
Most impressive is the performance of WiFi (compared to Black 3.01 and WM Hermes QS Edition) - power settings shoul be on "Best Performance", otherwise do not connects even putting the device next to BS
Found some conflict betwen C-Start and embodied input - haven't explored the issue yet.
Issue with synchronization: When the ROM was "virging" no problem synchronizing. Suspect installing C-Start, after the system runs for some time, there is some software conflict. Have followed all ActiveSync 4.5 troubleshooting advice, but looks like the issue is in the device. Next few days will try to install different Chinese characters software - hope it will work!
-- The same issue had with Black 3.1 + C-Start; the difference is that with Black 3.01 was able to etsablish connection between the PPC and the PC, was able to "browse" the PPC but no sync; with Dymond no connection at all
Hope will figure out some way arround with the Chinese characters
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Good or bad, buggy or not. You folks decide.
I'm happy to run "dogfood" on my TyTN. Nobody else has it.
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Heh... I think some folks are wishing this "dogfood" came from Menu Foods rather than M$.
Not to mention anyone who's been in IT for any length of time knows a "shipping" version doesn't necessarily equate to a "good" version (can we all say Windows ME?). C'mon, I know y'all didn't just fall off the turnip truck.
I think vp3g rom is by far the best. I ve been playing with this rom since it 1st came out and i must say its Very stable, very BIG storage, very responsive, and the tie in of the cingular settings with this rom adds close to a perfect rom! My only gripe with lsvw rom base is "esmertec java" Opera mini sucks with it! But otherwise a great rom!
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please state what testing u did to justify your claims the dymond is unstable.
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I already posted it on your site.
Out of the box, within 30 mins of use, your ROM was freezing up on me several times. I use no 3rd party applications, aside from Pimp My Black (which may have been the problem). I did not see the quirkiness in other ROMs that I saw in Dymond. I've reviewed many ROMs, including your original Black 2.x and 3.x series, and did not have the same polished experience I see in LVSW's base. I think your 2.5 ROM was the best to date in terms of reliability.
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Could not agree more! vp3G's LVSW Re-Cooked version is the "Best Rom by far" very fast and very stable...
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It's given me no hassles at all, aside from the WLAN problem when using WPA2 pre-shared key, which seems to be a problem in a few recent ROMs (Faria's being the exception here). It has the Cingular customization already done, and includes what I need and not what I don't need. I also like the inclusion of a working X-button. No additional CABs to install.
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I already posted it on your site.
Out of the box, within 30 mins of use, your ROM was freezing up on me several times. I use no 3rd party applications, aside from Pimp My Black (which may have been the problem). I did not see the quirkiness in other ROMs that I saw in Dymond. I've reviewed many ROMs, including your original Black 2.x and 3.x series, and did not have the same polished experience I see in LVSW's base. I think your 2.5 ROM was the best to date in terms of reliability.
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Well then,
Maybe you should have choose the word "Tried" rather saying something like 'in my "Testing" I found it to unstable.'
You tried it, you didn't actually do any 'testing.'
I was involved in the 'beta' and RC1, and still using it loaded full of apps, and there is NO instability at all.
cant say much about the others but...
I am running Dymond and no stability issues what s ever were detected unless:
You add on HTC X (doesn't matter what version - both Sucks) use alternatives like handyswitcher or others.
This is the ROM I had the longest uptime before SR!
I am running Pushmail (more than 200 email per day) with sms activity fairly high as well as phone calls that could probably fry my ... and still stability is not an issue.
only issue i am wondering about these days is what Radio Version is the best to work with...
I have actually found the same issues with every WM6 rom I have tried to date. I have loaded all of Kyphurs, a couple of LVSW's and Black 2.01 onwards.
I think everyone here knows that actual problems stem from third party apps and/or personal set up and the roms get blamed for the problems.
I also think we all know that a lot of people fall into the two main camps and will argue their rom is better than the other one.
I am on Dymond and havn't had a soft reset for the two days its been on my device - which for a cooked rom I reckon is pretty damn good - but I reckon from what I have read LVSW's latest is probably ok too...
You pays your money and you takes your choice --- oh except you dont pay any money - ITS FREE!
I just want a clean, stable ROM with bug fixes.
Thanx for any advice.
the best one is the one you like better.
just try them and answer yourself.
i'm still on the old Mun... and its just great!
I'm on the bepe ROM and it is not the best I tried but I'm to lacy to reflash again.
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i'm still on the old Mun... and its just great!
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i'm the same , and waiting for mUn's Wm6 rom
This is the best one
The best rom is the one that covers your needs.
They are all great and this guys are doing a heck of a good job,so start flashing and get your own answer.All these roms have amazing features so like I said flash and enjoy it.
Read about Hard SSPL and SSPL before you do it and make sure you do it well,just to avoid (bad) surprises.
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I just want a clean, stable ROM with bug fixes.
Thanx for any advice.
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Wait for an official ROM. If you can't take the time to try different ROMs and start a new thread, this is probably not the place for you.
The spirit of this forum to look through the contributions that everyone has made to the development of ROMS, try to contribute in any way you can - and help those in need.
Please don't take me the wrong way, but to reach the nirvana you describe, lots of people have to try out cooked ROMS - and feedback on different bugs. Only then do we get our cookers cooking great ROMS ( I dare say the official development teams check in here, too.)
You should be able to decide based on different comments in different ROM threads (currently 2730 posts in ROM thread for mUn, LVSW, AX3L and ausdim modified version of "official" ROM) which one suits YOUR NEEDS the best. As you will see, showing an outright preference does not encourage ROM cookers and is not really polite.
It may be that you were bewildered stumbling across xda-developers - if so - ask for help - but don't expect a free lunch - try and contribute to the forum, too.
Don't forget to donate to the ROM chef once you've found your favourite - and happy flashing if you find it.
I have tried a multitude of ROMs over the past few weeks and was just trying to guage what others have thought of them. I have tried LSVW and AX3L more recently but was having some issues with SPB Mobile Shell on AX3L. I am currently trying ausdim's ROM and will see what its like. Will post back.
The last one called "official" is best for me.
Wifi working (wpa, wpa2)
BT with A2DP working.
VOIP working ( i need this feature badly). You can hear in speaker only but working all the time and very good. On any other roms i tried only static noise, echo and sound drop. Even on official WM5 rom.
No more power drain after data disconnect. Again important feature.
GPS working.
The only thing in this rom is that you need some patched to have video call, menu sounds and other tweaks. But it's best so far.
VM
Still using mUn's 2.00.S.E.
Absolutely love it!
So far so good with audism's 'official' ROM with patches. Tomtom working, SPB seem OK as well. Will use over the next few days and post back. I even like the default colour scheme
very happy with ausdim's 'official' rom. Nice and stable and none of the weird stuff i was getting with the previous ones.
The most important thing I learnt from the last few frenzied months of flashing on my hermes and trinity is that its not the rom itself but what you do with them that counts.
I now soft reset after re-installing each of my major apps after a new rom flash and it really pays off.
Particularly with the lsvw trinity rom where I was having some major issues where it was defaulting to landscape mode after soft reset when I installed a combination of apps too close together. I'm not completely sure which the offending apps were but spb shell, aebutton, and spb full screen keyboard seemed to be the ones to tip the balance.
Anyway, I generally try and find the cleanest rom and build it myself as we all have our particular favourite apps and I dont like doubling up on programs.
Actually, ausdim's 'official' is the closest I've come to my ideal rom.
I have tried them all over recent weeks. I prefer AX3L rom and his ext rom. That is my personal opinion
Have to say Bepe's is the most stable rom for me with the set of applications that I am using, great respect to all, but Bepe's had to be flashed to my device after using any ROM, waiting for more great efforts and the testing will continue.
Cheers
Private69, if you want something real close to the official.
Experienced some bugs with audism, so flashed to private69 with my own tweaks and cabs. Works like a breeze
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The last one called "official" is best for me.
Wifi working (wpa, wpa2)
BT with A2DP working.
VOIP working ( i need this feature badly). You can hear in speaker only but working all the time and very good. On any other roms i tried only static noise, echo and sound drop. Even on official WM5 rom.
No more power drain after data disconnect. Again important feature.
GPS working.
The only thing in this rom is that you need some patched to have video call, menu sounds and other tweaks. But it's best so far.
VM
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Can you please post your version of windows/rtcdll.dll ?
Using the one from the original post, (this cab from ax3l http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=41737&d=1182077395 ) I can use wm6 voip but during the conversation I often ear noise.
Ciao
Tried all roms I could get hand on if they were english and of course bepes German as it is the only german out of the box but now I'm using AX3L's rom with the extrom. Its out of the box nice, fast, has a lot of free space and all my apps run smooth.
But in his rom the Battery leak is not yet fixed but there iss light HTC Asia is making a WM6 right now so the days are counted
For the moment PDAVIET its the best Rom.
Greats Remo
The Best?
The best is relative to what you are looking for, your style and taste. Personally I want stability and so far Private69's has been perfect in that area.
so far I have found AX3L's Rom very good and stable.
I am using Bepe 0.79 build which suffers horribly. Or is this a 'feature' of WM6 builds?
Thanks
You'll find a harder time searching for a rom that actually works. bepe's 0.79, excluding that mem leak & not being as fast as other roms, is still the best rom around, well, Black & Blue's nice too, but has some excess apps and as bepe's doesn't hape the XIP that prevents loss of certain settings.
I've been working with Mun's INDIGO lite ROM for 3-4 months if i remember well, and i'm considering a fresh rom upgrade.
I read a lots of good things about Bepe's 0.79 ROM, and Mun himself recommended it, but this memory leak problem is making me reluctant.
Is it so noticeable? Is it much worse than the normal WM6 memro leaks we experience in all roms?
And regarding speed - why do you think it's slower? do you think it's slower even complared to INDIGO?
Thanks
Dont get me wrong, Bepe 0.79 is great, nice and fast but if you dont reboot the phone everyday an app will fail to run and bomb out complaining of lack of memory. I guess rebooting once a day aint so bad but it could be better
Any other suggestions?
Try ADW 1.1 rom Very Stable soft reset hmm oncea week or longer no personal apps and fast
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I have found that the best one for me is AX3L v2.0.8.2 I haven't noticed any memory leaks, however I don't normally use lots of applications, but none the less I have never seen a memory error (not enough memory etc.)
I also found it to be the fastest. Just my 2 lei.
ADW has no leak, and is extremely stable... probably the most stable of all roms currently available. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles some other roms give you, but you can install everything afterwards anyway...
AX3L
I have been using AX3L's 3.1.2.c Lite for more than a few months. In this time I have tried several other ROMs, like Mary, Karmba_a, but always have reverted to AX3L's. The OS coupled with it's own 1.46.00.11 Radio offers great speed, performance, stability and super battery life (more than 72 hours).
Thanks for the suggestions, but this thread is becoming very similar to other threads in which every member says what's the best ROM in his opinion. I'm not saying that' bad, but it's very difficult to make a decision with so many suggestions, for people with not much free time to keep checking ROMs
One question - how is it possible to have such radical differences between ADW's and Bepe's version when ADW's one is based on Bepe's?? Is it newer build? is it so heavily hacked and tweaked till it became faster and more stable?
I guess I should some of those ROMs till i see which one is suitable for me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347002&highlight=updated+poll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347585
KamaL said:
Thanks for the suggestions, but this thread is becoming very similar to other threads in which every member says what's the best ROM in his opinion. I'm not saying that' bad, but it's very difficult to make a decision with so many suggestions, for people with not much free time to keep checking ROMs
One question - how is it possible to have such radical differences between ADW's and Bepe's version when ADW's one is based on Bepe's?? Is it newer build? is it so heavily hacked and tweaked till it became faster and more stable?
I guess I should some of those ROMs till i see which one is suitable for me
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My ROM is based on Bepe's BaseROM and not his released WWE/GER Roms.
Both ROMS are completely different except the OS version.
Most memory leaks are caused by third party (self installed) software.
Is it possible to obtain this "base rom" somewhere? I would really love to find a stable yet current ROM for the Trinity and then do the translation to german.
I had limited results with B&B 1.1 - the ROM misses some files, so it's not possible to import it into the bepe-based kitchens. Just unpacking and repacking worked to a degree, but I don't trust this method and ran into problems when I tried to exchange the keyboard-SIP for a localized version of msim.dll. A clean WM6 would be nice. I have considered the Dopod, but am reluctant as there have been some comments about a faulty xip, resulting in problems after a soft-reset.
TG.
I've tried many ROMS on my 8525 and they all worked pretty well. Each had their advantages and disadvantages. I want a ROM that has a lot of memory, very stable, and works great with voice command. So if you can just drop by and recommend one. No need to flame or say something about the thread--if you don't like it, don't answer in it. I just want recommendations, thanks.
How many WM6.1 roms can we possibly create!?
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I've tried many ROMS on my 8525 and they all worked pretty well. Each had their advantages and disadvantages. I want a ROM that has a lot of memory, very stable, and works great with voice command. So if you can just drop by and recommend one. No need to flame or say something about the thread--if you don't like it, don't answer in it. I just want recommendations, thanks.
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I completely agree! In the past I tried several, but ultimately stuck with the Schaps roms. I felt they were the best for me- had what I waned, were fast and stable. Now in this last month with WM6.1, there are so many, and they're all apparently the latest and the greatest. It's confusing too that every cook uses their own revision numbering system also.
I'm using Pays latest rom right now. It's what it claims to be (for me), fast and stable. Will continue with that until Schaps (hopefully soon) releases his final 4.40...
It seems everyone is working very hard to get their own perfect rom happening- but wouldn't it be better if we got more collaboration going between cooks, and worked together to create fewer, better roms? It would probably mean spending less time reinventing the wheel...
Just my thoughts- take them or leave them.
no matter what ROM I go to recently, I end up going straight back to this one
I just downloaded the Voice Command file that was on here and im sure you will find it if you use the search function.
It is fast and has alot of storage memory and in my opinion is the most stable ROM i have put on my hermes.
Everyone is different tho...
I use Pandora Naked 7.0b2, the last WM6 Naked rom before mattk_r moved on to WM6.1. It's very fast, very stable and comes with nothing extraneous.
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no matter what ROM I go to recently, I end up going straight back to this one
I just downloaded the Voice Command file that was on here and im sure you will find it if you use the search function.
It is fast and has alot of storage memory and in my opinion is the most stable ROM i have put on my hermes.
Everyone is different tho...
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I have to agree. I tried all the 6.1's as they were coming out and within a few hours had hard resets. Kept coming back to Berds rom (linked above).
Like Schap rom so much ...... so waiting for full release of Schap's WM6.1
Thank you guys for the input. I'm using Faria's 6.1 ROM. GREAT rom--very stable. Just two things with it though: there's a memory leak somewhere and voice command doesn't work well at all. So i'll see what ROM to flash. I also wanted a lite rom, but it never came out. Might try schap's 6.1 rom when it comes out.
Have you tried Matt's Pandora Naked Roms? They are clean/stable. I've been using his PN7.2 for awhile with VC & no issues. I haven't tried his 9.1 yet (wm6.1). I'm waiting for all the bugs to get worked out.
Chris
No flame, just a lot of opinion... Regardless of what anyone says, if you are looking for stability, speed, memory, etc... then you may want to stay with a WM6.0 rom... Although I have run and am currently running a WM6.1 variant, I would suggest to anyone that either doesn't have the time to flash repeatedly or isn't afflicted with RFWS to stay away from the 6.1 Roms for now...
How much time is actually spent on a rom to consider it stable...? What are the measurements that are taken to consider a rom fast and speedy...? I am not taking anything away from the cooks and wish I had the grey matter to cook roms myself, BUT unless a rom is tested over a period of time (not two weeks) and repeatedly subjected to beta testing how can one say it is stable... We constantly have roms that are released and then we become the Beta Testers (not complaining mind you, its what I live for)... But we do need to remember that this is primarily a development site and as such there will always be releases that some of us consider to be substandard or less than average... There are several factors that determine stability and how often one has to perform soft/hard resets is one of those factors...
Well, let me get off of the soapbox, I personally liked the Black Series of Roms that are no longer under development... And since they are not supported by the cook any longer (for personal reasons), I would recommend Schaps 4.x series of roms... not the WM6.1 variants, but the WM6.0 variants...
Hope this helps...
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I've tried many ROMS on my 8525 and they all worked pretty well. Each had their advantages and disadvantages. I want a ROM that has a lot of memory, very stable, and works great with voice command. So if you can just drop by and recommend one. No need to flame or say something about the thread--if you don't like it, don't answer in it. I just want recommendations, thanks.
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I think Schaps v4.01 is very stable. It can use MS VC very effectively plus it is not hifi version compared to the current ROMs. Just the basic necessary things which are required for a good ROM. I have used both his lite and full version. You can try it out.
The ROM thread is situated here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343942.
I have tried many kinds of different softwares also on this ROM which works pretty well and as desired. You can try it out.
Great to know. I've tried schaps rom actually and liked it but for some reason that i can't remember, i went to faria's. I think i might go back to this one now. Are there any highly anticipated roms coming up like dutty's 6.1 for the kaiser when everybody was talking about it before it came out?
I tried Schaps and just like last time, it freezes up a lot on me for some reason. Things don't go very smooth on it so i might try pay's rom or some other that i find stable. Any further recommendations will be highly accepted.
I was a great fan of Schaps roms but I kept having connectivity issues (ie: bluetooth, wi-fi) so i switched over to TNT roms. Love those. But it all depends on what you're looking for. For example, TNT roms have a lot of 3rd part apps that some people might not want. I personally haven't had any luck with voice command. Not even with the at&t rom. You gotta do your research. Check thru the first few pages of a rom thread that looks appealing to you and see what the immediate problems are and post your concerns/questions. Members here will be more than happy to help you. After all, that's what development is...isn't it?
Guys, I have gone done the same path as so many of you - trying each ROM as it came out. Before 6.1, I was stuck on TNT SE after being a major fan of Schaps for a long while. Now with 6.1, I have found CRC's to be the best. I dont use VC so cant comment.. Randomize is good, but no BT Explorer... have been operating with CRC for a few weeks now. Very rarely have to reset - only if I overload the thing and it locks up at 99% memory utilisation. Try it for yourself... The only comment I have beyond that is related to radio ROM. I have found that 6.1 seems to be more sensitive to which Radio Rom you are using. I have gone back to 1.43 and found it to be superior to 1.54! Be warned though, I have read in some of the other threads that an older radio ROM can cause the phone to freeze up, although I haven't experianced that at all.
RanDomIze Final Storm v2.10
I have tried almost every 6.1 ROM, this on definatly is the best one I have found.
Its been a while since ive even bothered to snoop at whats going on in the old hermes world. I still have my hermes and am curious to see how far wm6 has progressed.
now the dilemma is that so much has happened since i last worked on black (dont get excited - i hung up my boots) and dont know which one to install.
So which is the "best" in terms of stability/speed etc?
Welcome back buddy! WM6.1 builds have a lot problems for now - freezing and HR - maybe depends on BS, but we don't know at the moment.
Maybe you will be successfull...
PDAVIET is the best!!
FARIA.R-32
I've been using it for few weeks now. And had absoultly no problems at all. Best rom so far (at least for me ).
I reakon CRC's ROMs are the best
Try the stable one if you rely on your phone, or the development one if you want to try the bleeding edge stuff...
I vote PDAViet, clean, BigStorage which makes it darn fast and no stability problems whatsoever. Been running for 2 days now
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I vote PDAViet, clean, BigStorage which makes it darn fast and no stability problems whatsoever. Been running for 2 days now
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I really wouldn't call 2 days stable... If I relied on my phone, I'd be looking for something that has run for weeks before calling it stable
I wouldnt go to 6.1
Many different custom ROMs of WM6.1 that I've tried.
Some crashed to a hard reset
Some frequently froze
Some froze/crashed/kill my dog
All for what? SMS Threading? And it's an ugly SMS threading by the way, and if you got more than a hundred SMS, it would take a while for it to load threaded SMS with each contact. All other features of 6.1 are either useless to common users (such as corporate security junk) or are transferable to 6.0 (such as Office 6.1)
I've went back and forth between 6.1 and 6.0 until sticking to 6.0
It's faster & stable (won't stay "stableR" because 6.1 is NOT stable)
See it this way
WM6.0 = XP
WM6.1 = Vista
One is older than the other, but all the newer version's stuff was transferable to the older version.
Though I wouldnt say WM6.1 has ANY improvement over the GUI like Vista did.
Newer doesnt necessarely mean better.
Eventually, a hardware device is old enough and newer "software" doesnt improve anything at all.
I'm still running mid-2005 Nvidia drivers on my laptop Most stable drivers for THAT laptop (as it's old).
Hermes is old
I've found that it depends on the Windows Mobile build... Out of all the 6.1 builds I've played with:
19199 = WM6.1, seems to be very stable on all devices.
19209 = WM6.1, seems to be stable on some devices, lots of issues on other devices. Can freeze or hard reset, but it's either it works 100% or fails completely. Not 100% sure why as yet.
19400 = WM6.1, haven't been able to get this to even boot as yet.
This is why I've split my development into Stable (uses build 19199) and Development (uses build 19209 - or higher when I get it working).
Oh that's easy - TNT.19199
The full version.
Only need to add FTouch SL
Simply the fastest and the most fully loaded ROM I've ever used.
(probably partially due to the X-button that actually terminates application process when you click it)
And it's fully loaded with things you can actually make use of...
I'm still finding new useful things to do with the apps it comes with.
CRCinAU said:
I've found that it depends on the Windows Mobile build... Out of all the 6.1 builds I've played with:
19199 = WM6.1, seems to be very stable on all devices.
19209 = WM6.1, seems to be stable on some devices, lots of issues on other devices. Can freeze or hard reset, but it's either it works 100% or fails completely. Not 100% sure why as yet.
19400 = WM6.1, haven't been able to get this to even boot as yet.
This is why I've split my development into Stable (uses build 19199) and Development (uses build 19209 - or higher when I get it working).
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I agree with you 100%
HOWEVER, while 19199 doesn't "hard reset", or crash under "CASUAL" use, it is very sensitive to "torture" use.
6.0 can take in a lot of crap, changing radio bands while turning off bluetooth and having Live Messenger trying to initiate a GPRS connection. 6.1 19199 would most likely just vomit, pass out on face first in the toilet bowl and wake up a while later feeling groggy.
Though it's better than 19209 which would end up overdosing (hard reset)
I dont have any concrete examples of how to stress test 19199 into bugging, but after running 19199 (including your 9.1 ROM, which is the last WM6.1 I tried). I defitively saw the difference between WM6.0 and what is considered to be "stablest" in the WM6.1 kind.
WM6.0 is much more responsive.
i've tried all 6.1 roms and they are excellent in all areas but one - the battery life. it's simply too short no matter what you do.
so, i went back to the best rom i've tried so far - K's final WM 6.0 - it's got the speed and battery life way better than any wm 6.1 rom out there
hi JJ
I am using from PDAviet the DVHa rom version 19209 in combination with radio 1.48. I am using my pushmail alot and the phone last 3 days!!
This is the best I ever had. I have tested nearly every rom in the last year (also black ). I'm running this combination a couple of weeks without a SR or HR!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385047&highlight=pdaviet
I want to test the new rom from DVHa but in that threat there a some people with HR issues!
JJ, glad to hear from you again. Hope all is OK with you. I have been using Pandora Naked ROM for a few months now and it is very stable. I have not had any hard reset so far. Worth a try.
jasjamming said:
Its been a while since ive even bothered to snoop at whats going on in the old hermes world. I still have my hermes and am curious to see how far wm6 has progressed.
now the dilemma is that so much has happened since i last worked on black (dont get excited - i hung up my boots) and dont know which one to install.
So which is the "best" in terms of stability/speed etc?
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speed: faria , it's a bit unstable(but you gotta see it at least once...
stability: pdaviet, clean and stable(fast as well)
Well, well! If it isn't the highly respected JJ! Notwithstanding your great contributions to this community I would direct you as I would any question about which is the "best"; do a seach in the topic titles with the word 'best' and you'll start to get a good idea.
As of the last couple of weeks I would definitely shortlist the ROMs based on the 19209 builds (i.e PDAViet and PDACorner and maybe try some of the newer PDAViet builds).
Let us know how your get on and how they fare against your once ubiquitous roms.
Nothing has been as smooth as black !!, as a noob i've been sticking with Shaps....Please post which one's you like the best after trying, Thanks JJ
jasjamming said:
Its been a while since ive even bothered to snoop at whats going on in the old hermes world. I still have my hermes and am curious to see how far wm6 has progressed.
now the dilemma is that so much has happened since i last worked on black (dont get excited - i hung up my boots) and dont know which one to install.
So which is the "best" in terms of stability/speed etc?
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Get back in #xda-mofos where you belong JJ, and where the **** is walshieau hiding?
Hi Jasjammin, A t this point in time I've used a heap of the wm 6.1 roms. I tend to like (for my jasjam) the PDAViet roms as I dont seem to get the hangups or hard resets I've got in other roms. I quite like the PDAViet rom series 19701, Its BLINDINGLY FAST and no problems yet. Mind you I only had it on a day or two, so.... As for the earlier versions, my Jasjam didnt like 19199 or 19202 but seemed to be ok with 19209& 19400. My radio rom is 154.30.10. Hope this helps... Cheers
Hi Jasjammin, A t this point in time I've used a heap of the wm 6.1 roms. I tend to like (for my jasjam) the PDAViet roms as I dont seem to get the hangups or hard resets I've got in other roms. I quite like the PDAViet rom series 19701, Its BLINDINGLY FAST and no problems yet. Mind you I only had it on a day or two, so.... As for the earlier versions, my Jasjam didnt like 19199 or 19202 but seemed to be ok with 19209& 19400. My radio rom is 154.30.10. Hope this helps... Cheers