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Looks like wm2005 still not very stable, a lot of programs still not working.
For example, Xbackup, set as ringtone or Monster Chinese, etc.
well alot of programs required new versions when 2003SE came out as well
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Looks like wm2005 still not very stable, a lot of programs still not working.
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Using it on my Imate for a month or more and no problem so far and no lock-ups like there were on WM2003SE
I think the title of this thread is misleading... :?
The fact that it does not run several applications or crashes is because:
1.- This version is not final
2.- It's not compatible because of it's very nature, IT'S A NEW OS!!!
The same happened when we upgraded our PCs to Windows XP don't you remember?
New versions will start to come up eventually, and even if you don't see any advances "right-out-of-the-box" it's because the main improvements on this OS reside behind the scenes, so Programmers will start to develop new and exciting apps that take advantage of the new features and APIs.
For me Windows Mobile 5.0 has been very stable even with the very first version that Buzz, Toe and the gang which had very limited memory resources I had no stability problems whatsoever.
There are limitations of course, (like no MMS, mediocre video camera, sms problems, etc) but eventually Microsoft OR our very own developers will take care of that!
So, BE PATIENT!!!!! :wink:
Hi,
Using it for 3 days in my Qtek 2020 and no problem at all.
Even Jabra250 works fine, when in 2003SE was difficult to setup.
About software that don't work, we must wait until new versions come out...
I'm sure when you update you computer from NT to W2K you has software that didn't work and had to buy new versions, so why should be different here?
Be patient.... Mobile5 is ok for now.
AF
if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb
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if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb
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if only we could run it on magician
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Xeon said:
if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb
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if only we could run it on magician
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i double that
Rayan & all the rest are right!!!
I can't agree less to what Rayan wrote.
It's a new OS and a beta for that matter (check out Goras thread on "WM2005 that I can share"), If I'm not mistaken it's not also intended for Himalaya, judging on the memory problems just solved(!) by Buzz, toenailed, XdaJojo, mamaich & all the other contributors as well.
Personally in my opinion its a lot 'solid' than the WM2003 & SE since it has to crash yet on my xda II, as mentioned by Rayan even the initial release of the OS with limited memory was stable.
The problems with the apps like backup & camera are being solved one-by-one, MMS which doesn't even start before is now working (check out the threads on WM2005 in the forum).
Even now, the benefits of using the OS in terms of performance, stability & looks far outweighs its limitations (in my humble opinion) just be patient & leave it to the WIZARDS (Buzz, toenailed, XdaJojo, etc. etc. etc).
Besides, hey ttseng this is the xda-developers forum & we all are having fun testing, tweaking, & breathing new life to our "soon to be outlawed" XDA II ....... if not for the WIZARDS in the forum !!!!! Notice the request for the OS on the other xda models, aren't we lucky we have the WiZARDS working on the HIMA? :lol:
Cheers!
works flawlessly on XDA2 Himalaya!!!!!!!!
best os and most stable one ive come across ,wm200se never really happy but this WM2005 is and has been stable without a single hard reset or rest since install.even self configured the o2email and hotmail!! took the o2 uk config & connections setup file from a XDA2s_1-12-178-WWE_UK_Extended_ Rom.
Is there more than one version of WM2005 kicking about?
I successfully installed WM2005 on my XDA II, but I couldn't get many 3rd party apps to install on it. So I was surprised to see screenshots with certain utilities running ok.
I was wondering if there is more than one version of it floating about on the net. The one I installed was found on these forums, but I have recently downloaded another off usenet.
They are both himalaya.
I am sure a non-beta copy will rear its head on here sooner rather than later (I hope!)
Cam
this version is in the ftp section ,the rom has a file name of
wm2k5_XDA2_HIMALAYA_O2_fullRAM.rar
Yep!
That's the one!
That would make both copies I have the same.
Is this a late BETA or even an RTM version?
Now that the OS has been officially released I am guessing it's a race for someone to post the released version ;-)
the official full version is released?
wow!
so when can we have it for download here?
i am planning to put off my upgrade till the full version comes out.
currently i am on the win2003se which i aint very happy with!
plz advise...
thanx everybody.
It out but you cant get it.
I have a friend who is a manger in Microsoft. I sent the MS link of the offical release and asked if it can be obtained from the internal web software store. At the moment it cant and I feel it will also never be the case (2003 the end user could never buy).
So we are back to the carriers and if they will ship 2005 as an upgrade for ood devices or only on new (MDA XDA IV).
Dont think one needs to be a rocket scintist to answer that, was not one of the devices never shipped with 2003, the way I remember it it was buz that did a Chines to English translation.
So at least w on the BA side have to wait untill something gets leaked.
A little help with WM2005 upgrade please!!!!!!!
I see that most people have upgraded to WM2005 without much trouble, but not me!! I am with o2 and I've just upgraded and I can't us GPRS (it keeps trying to dial 193.113.200.195 and then drops the conx even though the IP is entered in the APN section) I can't run Worldmate pro (not compatable), TOMTOM 3 (need to upgrade to ver 4.4) pick up email etc etc.
Could I have the details that you need to enter into your XDA to connect to o2 network via GPRS so that I can access hotmail, messenger, MMS, Internet etc etc
I hope you can help as I don't want to downgrade to the old windows version.
i can send u a O2 customisation cab file if u need ,however your phone must b on contract with O2UK not payg or orange etc..
Yes Please!!
That'll be great. yes I am with O2 contract.......
where is the awesome rom !!! please
iam running w2005 in my XD2..but still MANY applications cant be installed..and i was surprised to see the screenshot (above) with many applications runing ..BUT i couldnt find the ROM...i found only the one for XDA2s..."XDA2s_1-12-178-WWE_UK_Extended_ Rom" actually is a zipped file with no rom inside..just many cab files ..can anyone help me please...thanks guys
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Please test it with your favourite JAVA appz and post here the results.
I've tested Gmail and Opera MINI: not working, everything was working fine with Black 2.0
Can you clarify - Was this working with Black 2.5?
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Can you clarify - Was this working with Black 2.5?
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Simply I haven't tested black 2.5. In "BIG" 3d I read other two reports on the same issue, without clear definitrion of the name of the applet.
I have only a "lamp" icon and I tested both JAR an JAD directly downloaded, without results. WM6 beta bug? JJ "optimizzation" Bug?
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Can you clarify - Was this working with Black 2.5?
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Simply I haven't tested black 2.5. In the "BIG" 3d I read other two reports on the same issue, without clear definition of the name of the applet.
I have only a "lamp" icon and I tested both JAR an JAD directly downloaded, without results. WM6 beta bug? JJ "optimizzation" Bug?
Other users, using the same WM6 build can help may be...
I, too, have midlets not working since the launch of Black 3.0 and 3.01. The midlets used to work back in 2.5, 2.0 and many various cooked roms available out there. I speculate that something related to the midlet manager had been modified that led to the malfunctioning of midlets.
Apart from this issue the Black 3.0 had been working wonders for me.
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Simply I haven't tested black 2.5. In the "BIG" 3d I read other two reports on the same issue, without clear definition of the name of the applet.
I have only a "lamp" icon and I tested both JAR an JAD directly downloaded, without results. WM6 beta bug? JJ "optimizzation" Bug?
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Same here, I got the "lamp" icon as well. My midlet is a proprietary one developed by my company and hence wouldn't be the same as yours, segiopi.
Judging from this observation, I'd say perhaps the midlet manager is treating the midlets somewhat differently than before and is giving a runtime error to all of them.
Try "mobile.cmcmarkets.com" and download a midlet from there, compare that to a few other midlet apps, they should give the same "lamp" shaped icon and would "fail to run" as we click on it.
yes me too. gmail midlet was working in black2.5, but failed in 3.0 (havent tried 3.0.1).
gmail, voipbuster, mgmaps & opera mini don't work. ( i guess no midlet will work in black 3.0 until a fix is released)
lamp icon showed in all the midlets & "failed to run" message appear when launching any midlet.
They worked fine in black 2.5.
ok guys
i have been speaking to a number of cookers and it seems that the OEM app "tao intent midlet manager" is not compatible with newer wm6 builds.
hence i have something even better for you (kudos to mUn)
a better midlet manager and support full screen applications too, opera works great on it.
download it from post #2 in my black 3 thread..
this cab will overwrite the links to the midlet manager when u install it.
hi jj, thanks for the fast response. will try it out.
thx a lot, I still using miniOpera instead of full big opera and lot of old games in JAVA.
the new midlet manager works. thanks.
*edit* the behaviour is different from the original midlet manager. although softkeys worked within gmail midlet, but sometimes need to press twice to activate. screen touch no longer working for the softkeys. and performance seems to be slower then intent midlet manager.
JJ,
Thanks for the quick response, I downloaded your new midlet manager, my apps will now install and I will be able to 'launch' them. However, a few secs after I 'launch' the midlets, it would say midlet isn't responding and gives me two options 1) Wait 2) Kill the midlet.
Would you have any other midlet managers available? I've googled around the web and noticed the midlet manager you provided is great when the midlets work; however, its compatibility is a major issue.
GMAIL MIDlet works
new midlet manager is really nice, a bit slow but nicer than intent one. it slowdown my tytn a lot when having it launched, but at least works. thx a lot JJ.
voipbuster runs fine
mgmaps runs fine
opera mini runs fine
gmail doesn't work
"sorry gmail will not work on your phone. your phone doesn't have the appropiate certificate to communicate with the server. try accesing gmail in your mobile browser at http://mail.gmail.com"
Any idea why i can't use gmail?
or how to get the appropiate certificates to be able to run it?
gmail requirements says:
the phone need a class 3 Verisign certificate with serial number 70:BA:E4:1D:109:29:34:B6:38:CA:7B:03:CC:BA:BF. it should come with the phone.
Why i haven't it? and the other black 3.0 users have it?
teorically it can be got at https://www.verisign.com/cgi-bin/support/rootcert/getrootcert.cer but i've tried it but it doesn't yet run.
any idea in how to get a valid class 3 certiificate from verisign that works in my tytn?
TIA
that's strange. gmail midlet works in esmertec midlet manager as you can see in my post earlier in this same thread.
have you tried downloading it again? or delete the old one to test? i had problem in the intent midlet manager, and to get it uninstall i delete it (somewhere hidden within application data directory) directly.
Gmail works fine
Gmail works fine here too ... only gripe is that it doesn't remember the login credentials after a SR ... but that's not a midlet issue I suppose ...
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ok guys
i have been speaking to a number of cookers and it seems that the OEM app "tao intent midlet manager" is not compatible with newer wm6 builds.
hence i have something even better for you (kudos to mUn)
a better midlet manager and support full screen applications too, opera works great on it.
download it from post #2 in my black 3 thread..
this cab will overwrite the links to the midlet manager when u install it.
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JJ,
are you sure? cos it works fine with LVSW 3.30.0.9
fourcc said:
new midlet manager is really nice, a bit slow but nicer than intent one. it slowdown my tytn a lot when having it launched, but at least works. thx a lot JJ.
voipbuster runs fine
mgmaps runs fine
opera mini runs fine
gmail doesn't work
"sorry gmail will not work on your phone. your phone doesn't have the appropiate certificate to communicate with the server. try accesing gmail in your mobile browser at http://mail.gmail.com"
Any idea why i can't use gmail?
or how to get the appropiate certificates to be able to run it?
gmail requirements says:
the phone need a class 3 Verisign certificate with serial number 70:BA:E4:1D:109:29:34:B6:38:CA:7B:03:CC:BA:BF. it should come with the phone.
Why i haven't it? and the other black 3.0 users have it?
teorically it can be got at https://www.verisign.com/cgi-bin/support/rootcert/getrootcert.cer but i've tried it but it doesn't yet run.
any idea in how to get a valid class 3 certiificate from verisign that works in my tytn?
TIA
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I've installed 1.11 , from mobile.google.com, gmail, get faster Gmail and works
yes, i've deleted it, reinstalled it. SR. and it still doesn't work.
hiya
has anyone got this working on their Tytn?
http://www.touch-commander.com/
particularly MDA II WM6
There are other threads on this topic. Check it out.
yes in Trinity WM6 but not in Hermes
EDIT: ok found something in development and hacking, will have a looksy
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yes in Trinity WM6 but not in Hermes
EDIT: ok found something in development and hacking, will have a looksy
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No.. It's working 100% on my i-mate JasJam.. I even have FtouchFlo installed and they work together perfectly after adding Execlude line in FTouchFlo config file
I'm running WM6 (Schap's 3.6)
lots of defect still there. way to go
Seems to work OK on my TyTN. Will continue to test.
Interesting app - lost of others have been trying to get the same thing done with limited success it would seem.
Doesn't work on my Hermes!
No Problems. It is working as expected.
I just installed it, and it is working very well and in combination with FTouchFlo, now i have a real touchflo cube that is perfectly configurabel.
i'am running shaps 3.54b GER ROM
cheerrs,
chaos42
work OK on my TyTN how can i work also and touch flo ?
I have tested touch commander on my HTC hermes. It's give a new way of navigation and you can program your own shortcuts
i have this application it is better that flash cube!!
but still it should assign to a button so i thought maybe with FTouchFlo it could be launch from screen.
any idea how to set FTouchFlo to launch touch commander?
edit the config file FTouchFloConfig.txt
DownUpApp: /Program Files/touchcommander.exe
DownUpAppCmdLine:
and it will work
yes i did it it is very cool, and faster start up with touch commander.
also i put TouchFlo shortcut in startup so even after soft reset it would work.
No luck with mine. After uninstalling, I get a message stating it's looking for touch commander.exe when I press the messaging button. I checked the button assignments in setting and button 1 is set for messaging.
Haven't found a fix yet, but that's a report on what I discovered.
New version Touch Commander 3.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375111
installing now, will let you know
Nah, not working 100% on my hermes. Looks promising for the future once its being tweaked a bit
HELP
I purchased the 3.0 and it has soooooo many bugs and things I didn't wan that just sucked the life out of my device like battery indicator and htc home screen ect.....then I downloaded the new 3.1 which said it fixed the bugs I had complained about but didnt and in fact made my device crash so I had to hard reset. How I was suggested by their customer support to download an ealier version so I downloaded 2.0. It is exactly what I wanted and I am so happy but now I cannot register it. My registration code doesn't work for the 2.0.
My question to all of you on here is if anyone is interested in switching registration codes???? I will give you this code for 3.0 which also works for 3.1 if you give me your code for 2.0. I have contacted their support asking them for one with no response. I need this ASAP!!! Thanks and just shoot me a message if your interested!!!
So basically your asking someone for a code to version 2 which works in turn for a code for versions 3.0 & 3.1 which don't
Update Touch Commander 3.1
Update Touch Commander 3.1
Fingertip control for Pocket PC Phone like HTC TouchFLO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375111
I have tried this hack on the MAKUU wm6.1 beta6 "pure" and on the Lennysh wm6.1 beta 2.1 preview for my Dell Axim x51v.
See thread here: http://forum.lennysh.com/showthread.php?t=182
Basically you need the fake phone/sms DLL hack before installing the HTC plugin.
All files found here on XDA-Devs, but forgot where. So cred to the devs that first posted the files. Found clue for hack in the "Midlet Bible" by Menneisyys.
Also the HTC Home Plugin Customizer v1.0 Final found here works great!!
-NonPaq
Update: LennySH was kind enough to combine a version of HTC Home Plugin VGA with the two DLLs included in a cab for quick and easy installation. See Post #15 for Download.
thank you very much spent a lot of time on trying to get this work
@all
you need to put the dll files in windows folder..
Awesome! Man, I've been looking for ways to get it to work. I gave up and instead, used lrToday with my own clock skin. Now, I can truly get rid of that and try this. Thanks for posting this solution!
Just reflashed with LennySH edition (2.1) and I'm having problems customizing with Home Plugin Customizer v1.0. It goes through all the options, but saving does not change the plugin. I know this used to work (just look at the image). Let me know if you able to change the configurations.
BTW, is this the best "VGA version" of the plugin? The text is very small.
Dont know what I did other than reinstalling the Homeplug, but now the HTC Home Customizer works.
I experimented with installing PocketCM again (scrolling contacts). Previously, the application would immediately bomb out with missing component error. This time it actually ran!! Unfortunately its immediately closing down after loading the contacts, but at the PCM forums it appears to be a wm6.1 problem.
Looks like these fake DLLs may also allow other phone apps to now work on our non-phone Axim. (perhaps even other non-phone devices).
(I changed Homeplug to transparent backgroung, iphone icons, and silver streak clock. All auto downloaded with HTC Home Customizer.)
nonpaq
Mine doesn't work. I copied the dll files over to the Windows directory. Installed the cab file and all it shows on my Today Screen is a line separated where the HTC Home Plugin should be. BTW - haven't install the customizer yet.
Running makuu's pure 6.1 rom.
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nonpaq
Mine doesn't work. I copied the dll files over to the Windows directory. Installed the cab file and all it shows on my Today Screen is a line separated where the HTC Home Plugin should be. BTW - haven't install the customizer yet.
Running makuu's pure 6.1 rom.
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I originally did this on Makuu's 6.1 pure, so I dont know what is happening. Did you reboot after install? I never did not try it in RealVGA mode however.
Pst... btw, Makuu "leaked" that he will be releasing a new rom with HomePlug built in. My discovery may just be too little too late for Makuu fans.
It will not have the plugin built in, but it will support the installation natively without any tricks. I'll post the link to the rom in few minutes.
Not sure why it's not working. Maybe I'll wait for Makuu's next release. I'll stick with Moble Shell 2 for now. Thanks.
Does it works on WM6 ? (Not 6.1)
My X51v runs the Makuu WM6 FR, and I Wanted to try this homme plug for a long time.
Does it works on WM6 ? (Not 6.1)
My X51v runs the Makuu WM6 FR, and I Wanted to try this homme plug for a long time.
I wouldn't like to hard reset ...
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Does it works on WM6 ? (Not 6.1)
My X51v runs the Makuu WM6 FR, and I Wanted to try this homme plug for a long time.
I wouldn't like to hard reset ...
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http://www.ppccool.com/index.php?showtopic=8352
it is a very nice looking plugin, but is it possible to change the tabs like contacts to another launcher?
If 2 or 3 tabs (on a total of 6) aren't usefull on a non-phone device, I won't have it on mine.
ok worked until I changed the theme color with mobile shell 2.. now only a seperator and free space where the plugin should be.. but I think there are better programs out there right now especially ultimate launcher
Attached is a modified cab install for the two attachments in the 1st post. Although this is the older version, I'm at work and can't post a newer version of HTC Home so I decided to go ahead and post this one for people not comfortable with copying files. Just install this cab, and soft reset.
Is there any way that the plugin grows a little bit because it is too small!
hi
like title says is there something out for wm6.5
cause when i use wvgafix3 nothing happens im
on miris v13 rom
thanks ShizeT
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hi
like title says is there something out for wm6.5
cause when i use wvgafix3 nothing happens im
on miris v13 rom
thanks ShizeT
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hi ShizeT
what do you mean when you say nothing happens do you just get a blank screen on startup of your mobile?
a little more info would make a world of difference for users here to help you further.
also i have issues with wm 6.5 on my htc touch hd, my main problem is that the colours are all messed up and it keeps reseting also there is no radio in the rom which is highly frustrating
I think he means that WVGAFIX3 doesn't work on his WM6.5 ROM...I haven't used the program itself so try hunting in the WVGAFIX thread...I guarantee you that there are people who have tried what you're trying.
@HTCFAILEDFLASH: what you're describing sounds like the old "i still have SPL 1.14" problem. If you look at the stickies in the ROM thread, there is a very detailed explanation of how to flash your ROM up to SPL 1.56, which is what is required for most ROMs these days. Alternatively, you can just use HSPL 1.56 from Olinex. But I would probably suggest following the sticky and using USPL - it's safer =P
thanks for the reply
my problem is when i hit vga the changes and then it goes back
to wvga whit nothing changed
i will try to find something in the wvga fix thread thanks
thankyou soo much skullk3r it worked finally now i would have been up all night trying to figure it out
So did you get WVGAfix in Windows Mobile6.5 to work? If so help Dudes..
Me too, I have HD2 and would like to play Arvale: Short tales (VGA) in full screen.
not working here either stays always in WVGA mode . So the screen size doesnt change to VGA.
WOuld love to try Mini vMac on Win Mobile 6.5
WVGAfix doesn't work on WM6.5
so there is no way in chaging screen size in WM 6.5 right ?
Sorry for asking, Im new to WM.
or is there a mini vmac wvga version?
WVGAFix4 seems to be able to change the screen to VGA and that works fine. BUT when you switch it back to WVGA the phone become inoperable until you reset. You can only reset by taking out the battery or using the little red reset button inside the case.
So it SORT of works with 6.5. If there's something you absolutely love to play that requires VGA and don't mind resetting the phone then I guess it's an option.
This is WVGA fix 4 that I'm talking about. I haven't tried 3.
***EDIT***
I installed SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3 and WVGAFix4 works perfectly. So it seems that it's HTC Sense that can't handle WVGAFix4. SPB Mobile Shell properly adjusts to the VGA setting, and then properly recovers back to WVGA setting. Yay!