I would realy like an XDA-Devs X1 panel, focussing on the X1 part of the forum. But it would go beyond the forum itself, it would include a home screen simmilar to that on XDA-Devs, but with X1 news only, would obv. contain the X1 forums in an X1 friendly interface, as well as feeds/updates on new posts, replies to my posts, and posts that mention key words that I specify in some sort of control panel.....
Is it just me that thinks this would be a cool idea?
I noticed in X Panel that there are links to the XDA-Devs X1 forums, but i think something more independent, and more advanced, focussing on me/the user.
Possible, but you'll have to embed Opera into the panel, which basically gives you an "Opera panel" instead of XDA panel.
Great idea!! would like to be created as a tribute to XDA for all their help and the help of its users.
Related
" Development and Hacking
Everything to do with software development for the phones. Please refrain from posting unless you're a software developer or hardcore techie. Postings from others will be moved. " --- Dont think that this description fit for this "Styling" forum in what Development and Hacking forum is transformed
I think that is time for new separated and useful Styling forum.
there is so many spec styling themes: MS 2.1, UL, BS, and Diamond, Manila, etc-related
(p.s: sorry 4 bad english.)
u got a point there buddy.
I agree
I can see your point. In the Development/Hacking forum, there are many "skinnings'" or "new skins" of apps and softwares. They're not really applications or softwares, but merely "skins" or "themes" if you will. But where else do they put them? It's the closest relevant thread for "us" skinners and themer. I (I believe second - I might be wrong) created a thread on UL icons, and a slew of others followed suit. There are
HTC dialers/phone pad skinning,
today themes,
RL, UL themes/icons,
Battery Status themes,
Audio Manager and WM player themes, skinning
total commander themes/skinning
Manilla themes
Icontact, Pocket CM and S2U2 themes/skinning
Mobile Shell
and the list goes on and on.
Perhaps there should be a "Theme/Skinning/Styling/Imaging" Forum. It would reduce the clutter in the Development/Hacking forum for sure, and a clear definition on what Development/Hacking (and others) means to up clear up/reduce any misunderstandings or misconceptions. Just my $0.02
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This has been brought up before and perhaps the mods are working on it or thinking about perhaps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398038
I like the idea, maybe call it "UI Customization" or just plain old "Themes & Skinning"
i think this need subcategories
Applications DevelpinG
Suggest Application
Skin Application
robosiris said:
I can see your point. In the Development/Hacking forum, there are many "skinnings'" or "new skins" of apps and softwares. They're not really applications or softwares, but merely "skins" or "themes" if you will. But where else do they put them? It's the closest relevant thread for "us" skinners and themer. I (I believe second - I might be wrong) created a thread on UL icons, and a slew of others followed suit. There are
HTC dialers/phone pad skinning,
today themes,
RL, UL themes/icons,
Battery Status themes,
Audio Manager and WM player themes, skinning
total commander themes/skinning
Manilla themes
Icontact, Pocket CM and S2U2 themes/skinning
Mobile Shell
and the list goes on and on.
Perhaps there should be a "Theme/Skinning/Styling/Imaging" Forum. It would reduce the clutter in the Development/Hacking forum for sure, and a clear definition on what Development/Hacking (and others) means to up clear up/reduce any misunderstandings or misconceptions. Just my $0.02
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This has been brought up before and perhaps the mods are working on it or thinking about perhaps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398038
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Agreed. Separate religion from government.
i'm in...and we could move some tutorials there...e.g. mobileShell tutorial which isn't sticky in the development thread,but sure is worthy,and good
Hi guys,
would it be possible to add another section on the Xperia (Kovsky) specifically for the Sony Ericsson Panels?
The whole interface is exclusive to X1 and things seem to have started picking up with the latest announcement from SE for more panels, the competition etc.
I also did a poll to gauge how many people would like it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483639
Many thanks!
TBH I'd rather we had a themes/apps/software subforum like the other newer devices, panels should fit into that neatly..
I guess the panels is another form of software but i thought a separate forum section would provide Kovsky owners a place to talk, develop and share panels.
I have forwarded this request to the admin (we are expecting some new device forums soon) so hopefully it should be added.
Ta
Dave
Thank you for the prompt reply!
to bump in:
a special sub forum for panels AND all sorts of app development would be cool
Just to cut it away from the general chit chat about what does and doesn't work on the X1
previous attempts and discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477863
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478531
DISCLAIMER: This is positive critique and feedback with suggestions on improvement. I'm not complaining, I'm just trying to help and give my thoughts about how to make XDA better for everyone.
So, is it just me or is the Development and Hacking section getting a bit cluttered and hard to overview? There is a lot of activity and many threads deal with resolution specific apps that doesn't work with all devices.
My humble suggestion is to add subsections into the Development and Hacking section: QVGA only, VGA only, WVGA only.
These subfolders would contain the threads that only deals with the resolution in question. Threads that deals with several resolutions would stay in the Development and Hacking section.
Example:
Xboxmods Rhodium manila thread would be in Development and Hacking/VGA only section (is VGA specific)
jerpealas Starcraft thread would be in Development and Hacking section (is both WVGA and VGA)
I also think that it's hard to navigate the forum from the start page, eg selecting device specific sections. When browsing XDA from a mobile device, this gets even worse with long loading times and expensive data (if not on unlimited plan. There are a lot of devices to choose from and it would be great if these could be categorized somehow. Maybe by year? Resolution? Or could the device subsections be named to a logical web adress, such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/diamond for the Diamond section (instead of http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=428)?
When browsing XDA from a mobile device, this gets even worse with long loading times and expensive data (if not on unlimited plan.
In my opinion it would be better to organize the apps in categories like: user interfaces, multimedia, system apps, skins ecc...
Like all of us I'm having a hard time flipping arround 1000+ pages of various threads in Applications / ROMs / Customization ... All are for the new comer WM 6.5
Why not CREATE A SECTION just for WM 6.5 ? this will make it extremely easy for WM 6.5 fans to find what they are looking for.
it Should include the following:
1. Themes
2. Titanium Home Screen Plugins
3. Fixes & Tips/Tricks
4. New CE Builds
5. etc
The aim is to provide us XDA-Devs, with a unified section covering all aspects of the New WM 6.5, especially, that I guess after a period of 6 to 12 months, WM 6.5 will be dominating the new threads in XDA-Devs, But yet, for WM 6.1 users, we don't want everything regarding the two OS get mixed in the same location.
The Sooner the better, and easier for Admins too.
Can we Acheive that XDA-Devs Team?
regards;
Will
Word...
Again.. Word...
Where is the Poll?
umm.. i think this is it...
just nod or something..
*Nods agreeingly*
No harm in a few more sections, also not many customizations work for 6.5
Yes please !!!
wm6.5 sections please!
Look at this Section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=260
There are many things for 6.5.
Terrorhuhn said:
Look at this Section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=260
There are many things for 6.5.
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You are right but I think the point was to catalogue HD/WVGA supported apps, tweak etc without trawling this section.
You could just search but it can be a trudge when you don't know exactly what you are searching for.
all the wm6.5 plugins i'm using, were found at the devs forum..
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all the wm6.5 plugins i'm using, were found at the devs forum..
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Same here...
I have no problem with trawling the forums hence the fact that I have only posted 12 (now 13) times in over 3 years as reading usually gives you the answers you need.
But, not everyone is inclined to spend hours sorting the wheat from the chaff.
Where manageable... I see nothing wrong with xda giving people new to WM (and for a lot of people, their HD is their first exploration) information tailored to their device.
When I first got my wallaby, the site was much (much) smaller; I would imagine that if you had just bought an HD and none of your mates have one, coming to xda for the first time could be overwhelming.
You can read all the tutorials but anyone who works in a development environment knows that written words will usually leave some ambiguity.
Most of the 6.5 apps were not developed by devs using a WVGA device so running threads specifically under blackstone would allow HD users who do know the apps to focus on helping others with issues specific to the HD.
Hopefully this would improve their overall knowledge and confidence in their device and who knows, they may be the people that will develop the apps for WM7 on the HD...
I think it is inevitable anyway considering how bloated a lot of general threads are getting with the ever increasing xda population (not that this is a bad thing - wouldn't want this to become an elitist Linux style forum).
Instead of creating new forums all you have to do is put 'WM6.5' or 'WM6.1' in title of each thread.
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Instead of creating new forums all you have to do is put 'WM6.5' or 'WM6.1' in title of each thread.
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Hi Fallen Spartan
+ screen resolution would be good.
I am assuming that because Will has posted this under a blackstone sub-category that he feels targeting information, help and support specifically to blackstone users would bring benefit as most apps posted under dev&hacking are already labelled up where they will only work on a specific OS.
Perhaps my point is out of place with the feelings of others but it is not finding apps that is difficult. The difficulty (and I do believe it is common place) is as I illuded to in my previous post.
When you do ask a question specific to running an app on the HD, it can either be overlooked due to the volume of questions other members are asking or the response is not by someone who has the device (including the developer) so help, although willingly given, can often be a dead end.
I do not have a solution for this but I am hoping you may think about how it can be easier for people to help people (I am as keen to help as be helped).
A user could always open a thread under themes and apps asking the question relating to a general app for specific help on the HD
I know I would feel a little uncomfortable doing this as naturally it feels the question should fall somehow into a WVGA/HD sub-category under the original app thread. It could mean that I caused other users to be unsure where to ask or look for help.
PS:
My comments are not intended to be taken as critical - This is a great site!
As with any user experience, the users change as do their expectaions (most users I see on the blackstone forum have a join date +2009 which is truly fantastic) and it is prudent to consider this going forward.
I won't comment anymore as I don't want to appear to be taking this down the route of a philosophical debate and you have elegantly answered Will's original post.
Mark.
Sounds like a great idea
Does this help tho
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Instead of creating new forums all you have to do is put 'WM6.5' or 'WM6.1' in title of each thread.
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Yes this is a good idea, but when you search for "WM6.5" you get "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms. " because (i'm guessing from trail and error) that the word is too short or sumthing.
I have been looking for a nice theme for my new WM6.5 rom and am spending hours trawling thro pages of forums.
I'd love to see a WM6.5 forum under the blackstone forum.
My Main Concern was/is this:
When you use search feature, it gives you several threads for the same VALUE, but there are lots of file VERSIONS and/or UPDATES.
So, Users will not be able to target the most up to date File/Cab/Tweak, which sometimes causes instability with new Manilla or something like that, but if we have coherent SECTION, updates will be included to facilitate the problem solving without compromising device stability.
I mean it will be a UNIFIED thread, with UPDATES Content, to reduce the hassle, and mistakes.
Take for example those most-wanted:
1. BG for all Tabs? --- there is a 100 versions over XDA-Devs, which is NEWEST?
2. Old Start Menu --- SAME
3. Colored TASKBAR --- SAME
4. Manilla Analog Clock --- m2.0 or m2.1
5. TSK Files
6. etc.
Plus, I don't want to spend a whole day searching for a cab, for the above mentioned or else, and get screwed because I used a wrong version, and need to Hard Reset.
Not all users are professionals as others, there is a various skills in here, from noobs, to profs.
Everything seems so intricate and difficult here, why do we fight over opinions all the time?
Please lets be atleast professional and friendly, as we have always been before.
Again, WM phones are top notch phones now, not like 3 years back, when HTC used to be High Tech Computers Co. (Think Himalaya/Wallabay)
Regards;
Will
Hi Mods,
Am I the only one who find "Development and Hacking" hard to browse?
Is it perhaps possible to create sub sections in this thread? Like all those
WM 6.5 and later Wm 7.x topics? Only of interest if you use those OSes.
Perhaps also sections for Today Plugins by type: manilla etc etc.
Just my two cents.
Cheers
I would make subforums for: Games, Apps, UIs etc. Most of the apps for 6.1 are compatible with 6.5 and vice versa, so imo there's no need for making such sections
Kamill said:
I would make subforums for: Games, Apps, UIs etc. Most of the apps for 6.1 are compatible with 6.5 and vice versa, so imo there's no need for making such sections
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agreed, especially skins...they sometimes crowd the first page and hide the interesting stuff back a dozen pages.
but it would also be benificial if you could toggle on or off certain topics at the top of the board
This was mentioned on the blackstone forum - I commented there that it would be good to see sub-categories for resolutions so questions specific to WVGA (for example) would more likely be found by another WVGA user and hopefully answered (titanium apps are a good example of this).
There is a lot of us on here these days with a lot of different models which is what makes this community so great but some more granularity would surely assist us in looking for help and where possible, help others.
I voted yes but "no" and "fine as it is" are the same answer are they not????
Yep you are very right My fault. Did it a bit too quick. But cannot change it anymore.
Yeah I agree with the Games/Skins/Apps/Drivers.../Ideas/ etc.. Its hard to find what you need when the good stuff can be pushed back 4 or 5+ pages by skins/themes or stuff you already have.
by reolution..
unowho said:
This was mentioned on the blackstone forum - I commented there that it would be good to see sub-categories for resolutions so questions specific to WVGA (for example) would more likely be found by another WVGA user and hopefully answered (titanium apps are a good example of this).
There is a lot of us on here these days with a lot of different models which is what makes this community so great but some more granularity would surely assist us in looking for help and where possible, help others.
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I agree...
the best way would be..
1.WVGA
2.VGA
3.QVGA
4. all resolutions..
5. and so on....
i think games and apps and wat not might get muddled...
resolutions is the way to go
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please yes. that section is an absolute mess. organizing by resolution or better yet, type of software would be fantastic.
"No" and "Fine as it is" is the same answer
And I also say "no" , because it's a development Forum - and it's a need to think outside the box. If we would have sections for Apps, Games or for Systems like 6.5 or Resolutions - some people never would look into and would know, which new Technologies or Ideas are available.
And for Developers (they are used to a search function) there are ideas at all the most important issue.
And have a look on other sides, where you see the "high gloss brochures" - which shows the free apps for WinMo with categories - in manner of AppStore from Apple - at the end you will find a link to xda-devs, to download or know more about the Apps
It's logical, that this poll will have as result, that there should be sub-categories for xda-devs - it's good for downloaders.
But for developers: They would oversee new ideas on other plattforms, the would get a tunnel vision on their own system.
And not so much ideas... would result in fewer Apps & Dwnloads. And so the people would have a nice overview (perhaps), but not so much cool ideas at all.
There are more than enough sides, which categorizes the Developers Apps here. But please leave us our "development environment" here - to see, with which people we could work together, to provide new Apps& Ideas... for everybody of us. What's up, if we would only develop for one resolution? And then we have to switch everything if we make multi-res? Senseless additional work for Developers... and especially too much work for the Mods.
It's better to work with Prefixes like "[App]" that makes a better overview. And Recommendations in the Sections of each device here.
And also to have as Downloader a possibility to think outside the box.
Micha
I have to disagree with you on at least one point.
This is from our home page...
But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
The poll is certainly backing this up.
Now 281 reads but only 55 votes. Seems that a lot of visitors don't care.
@mods, can you please make it a sticky in Development and Hacking until the end of the poll?
Cheers