The diamond with what ROM or Radio ever , shows the freaking US Nonstandard Standard of 850 and 1900 mhz for UMTS
But to use it for online purpose is impossible. It goes only to Edge what is closer to the speed of smokesigns .
The old touch cruise does well in the same areas with the same provider and the same settings .
Someone here who live also in the (Telephone development country) USA and figured out any solution ?
Thanks a lot
i do not have the international Version of the Diamond
sounds like you have the European (900+2100) diamond that does not have the us 3G (850+1900) bands. if this is the case you are stuck with EDGE.
it is true
but the radio or HTC ROM shows 850/1900 UMTS is this just another joke from HTC ?
Thanks
some roms show all the radio versions but are not usable because of hardware dependencies. my rom shows the china 1700 umts band but i know the hardware in my phone does not support it.
it's not htc but rather rom cookers leave all the available versions in windows so people from all parts of the globe can use their rom and see the bands for their country.
850 mhz Radio ?
did found this information quite old but HOPE.
"Sure, devoted ROM cooks were able to give the Euro-spec HTC Touch Diamond some 850Mhz frequency capability. And then HTC came out with their own ROM update that gave the HTC Touch Diamond EDGE-support on the 850Mhz band. But, without a dedicated 850/1900Mhz 3G radio under the hood, the HTC Touch Diamond just couldn’t crack the US market like we’d hoped."
SO is there a Radio, because the 850mhz is there and to get 3G seems a Radio Issue
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I noticed an unlocked US 3G Diamond at Best Buy today. I'm sure this has been asked before, but I can't seem to find the answer.
What makes the US version work on AT&T with 3G over the imported version? I have not seen a radio upgrade that allows it yet. The handsets actually looked quite similar with the exception of the back and battery.
I'm just curious whether to pick up the new one in order to get 3G service, or is there a radio update expected?
Thanks to anyone that can shed some light on it for me.
I have a US 3G version and the freq. that at&t uses here has been enabled.
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I have a US 3G version and the freq. that at&t uses here has been enabled.
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Sure, it would be the 850 and 1900 Bands. But there are Quad-Band radios available for the EU Diamond. I wonder if it's a question about the device not having specific hardware or just being able to enable those bands to work properly.
Sorry for my english
he American Diamond has quad band in GSM and only two band in HSDPA, The people here says that is a har problem not the radio, the people put the american radio (08) in European version and dont work.
The American version came with the 1340 mh battery and without the front camera. Carlos
Sorry for my english
The American Diamond has quad band in GSM and only two band in HSDPA (3G), The people here says that is a hard problem, not the radio, the people put the american radio (08) in European version and dont work.
The American version came with the 1340 mh battery and without the front camera. Carlos
I have a Touch Diamond I bought last week from new Egg, just like the ones from best buy. For some reason, I can pick up the 3G signal and it will hold on to it for just a second, then x..{disconnects}..then immediatly picks up Edge and then Hsdpa?
I get 25% Edge and 75% Hdspa. I guess if you read the box, it says it picks up a 3.5G internet Broadband Connection....Anything over 3.5mbps is Hsdpa.
calito said:
The American Diamond has quad band in GSM and only two band in HSDPA (3G), The people here says that is a hard problem, not the radio, the people put the american radio (08) in European version and dont work.
The American version came with the 1340 mh battery and without the front camera. Carlos
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I notcied that the US version had the 1350 mAh battery instead of the 900 mAh like the EU version. Was there any documentation on why they did this? Has anyone checked if putting the smaller battery and slimmer back on the US version causes any problems?
I also find it odd that HTC briefly listed the Diamond as a Quad-Band phone on their website, and have since changed it back to a Tri-Band phone.
I still have hope that our European Diamond will work with US 3G with somefirm ware flash or something
No, it will not.
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I still have hope that our European Diamond will work with US 3G with somefirm ware flash or something
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I have an Australian released unlocked touch pro, and made a huge mistake- my network Telstra nextg is on 850 UMTS, and the released model is designed only to support 900-2100 UMTS. Does anyone know if i upgrade the radio as posted to quad band via flashing the rom if it will then allow my phone to access the 850 UMTS range or has the Ausie touch Pro been produced differently and may have a different antena and or chipset, which wont allow me to change it? If this is the case my phone is RS, i can still get edge though. Help 20times over.:
Good Evening Folks,
Is there a chance of an 850/2100 variant being released, like HTC did with the Touch HD for Australia's Telstra's NextG (850/2100) network?
I'm from New Zealand and a new 850/2100 network is launching next week. I would love to have the Touch Pro 2.
The word here is that if there is a variant released for AT&T, then us down under folks can use the same model, via an unlocked model from Expansys.
Cheers!
bumpety bump
I'm with you. I use NextG and it p1$$es me off that none of the phones work properly unless Tel$tra bothers to support them. Given that they have picked the HD, they probably won't support this phone.
That said, apparently the inards of the TouchHD, Diamond2 and Pro2 are identical - only the case and features differ. So... maybe one of the talents folks in this community can extract the Radio ROM and port it across. Don't know if that will do the trick .. what do you think???
i was reading that the touch pro 2 may in fact come with 2 radio roms, fingers crossed, somewhere in the htc world, an 850 variant will be released unlocked for aussie's nextG and telecom's XT networks!
the tp2 will be sold by expansys as of 12 june 2009. it will be the default 900/2100 version. in new zealand, the new XT network will be 850 everywhere and 2100 for the large cities. i know it would where i am, but having it die soon as im out of the city limits is a killer.
cmon HTC! give us our 850 variant
The AT&T version was just leaked on engadget and has 850, 1900, 2100 3G.
I am in Canada and one of our carriers Telus just released the TouchPro 2
telus is a CDMA carrier, however, released the device as a world phone, quad band GSM and UMTS 2100 3G.
I am new to the GSM world and would like to understand better.
Telus and another carrier, bell mobility are building a 3G+ network that they plan to fire up later this year, the CDMA network will stay for a while and HSPA+ will be an overlay network with no GSM support.
Telus and bell plan to use UMTS 850/1900 bands.
When a company like HTC makes a phone, are the UMTS radio's hardware or software?
Is it possible for a OEM working with a carrier to hide UMTS 850/1900 bands or install 850/1900 bands in a new ROM update, say Windows 6.5 ROM?
It does not make sense to me for OEM's to make multiple versions of same phone, I understand each carrier has cosmetic outer requests, I am thinking of the core inside build.
It would be nice to have both networks in case the initial network build out for HSPA+ has issues.
Help!!
UMTS Radio is hadrware.
GSM/WCDMA(or UMTS, if you will) basebands are all hardware as the last poster noted. However, at the request of a carrier, one of the radios in a dual mode CDMA/GSM device can be disabled(as is the case with the dual mode CDMA/GSM version of the Touch Pro2 headed to Sprint here in the US). It is also [theoretically] possible to re-enable the GSM radio in one of the dual mode versions of the Touch Pro2.
On a side note, I wish the CDMA carriers here in the US would transition to GSM technology. I know Verizon will be conducting LTE trials late this year and early next year so that's a plus. It would be nice to transition to LTE, as well, or at least HSPA+....
EDIT: Actually, many OEMs make multiple versions of the same model device. The Touch Pro2 has numerous variants for each carrier which will sell it.
Well, in this case it's a different build from other Pro2's as it has cdma and therefore a different processor.
As for what it is truly capable of I don't know. Carriers have blocked out hardware functionality through software in the past (i.e. certain famous cases of phones with GPS having to wait a long time before a ROM that would let them take advantage of the GPS).
So maybe it's possible. I don't know if it is in this specific case, someone more familiar with the specific hardware and stuff will probably have to weigh in for a definite conclusion.
Hope so though...
UMTS Bands
Wow,
Thank You for the prompt replies.
I think the Telus TouchPro 2 is the same build as Sprint with Telus customization.
I understand that the hardware radio must be present for UMTS 850/1900 to work.
I am not too concerned about the GSM radio(s), just the UMTS radio(s).
According to the spec, it only has 2100 UMTS band
If Telus and likely Sprint have disabled the radio, is it possible to find out if indead the radio would support UMTS 850/1900 and could a cooked ROM enable those above bands?
seems I responded more or less at the same time as jaekidd
anyways...
according to the msm7600 spec sheet it can have the following umts combinations:
2100
1900+850
2100+800
2100+1700+800
2100+1900+850
Now I personally have no idea how one could check to see what options the installed hardware has and whether they are blocking something.
no idea if a new ROM could unlock those frequencies should they be present or how easy it would be to make a ROM to unlock them (they might need a ROM for a device with those features unlocked on that chipset from which to rip the necessary files/drivers for all I know)
And for the record, I think it might be more appropriate to say that the Sprint version is the Telus version with Sprint custommization (after all, the Telus version has come out first), rather than the other way around
and for the record the msm7200 specs sheet says it is capable of the same combinations but personally I can only remember dual band hspa in HTC's phones (the msm7200a sheet doesn't mention the combinations, just the individual bands)
solsearch said:
seems I responded more or less at the same time as jaekidd
anyways...
according to the msm7600 spec sheet it can have the following umts combinations:
2100
1900+850
2100+800
2100+1700+800
2100+1900+850
Now I personally have no idea how one could check to see what options the installed hardware has and whether they are blocking something.
no idea if a new ROM could unlock those frequencies should they be present or how easy it would be to make a ROM to unlock them (they might need a ROM for a device with those features unlocked on that chipset from which to rip the necessary files/drivers for all I know)
And for the record, I think it might be more appropriate to say that the Sprint version is the Telus version with Sprint custommization (after all, the Telus version has come out first), rather than the other way around
and for the record the msm7200 specs sheet says it is capable of the same combinations but personally I can only remember dual band hspa in HTC's phones (the msm7200a sheet doesn't mention the combinations, just the individual bands)
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HTC FUZE (AT&T's Touch Pro) has 850, 1900, and 2100 and I assume AT&T's Touch Pro 2 will, too.
Didn't know that, just the question remians of when AT&T will get theirs out to market.
Looking at the specs on PDADB, says Tilt2 will be tri-band 3G?
Thought the TP2 only came in dual-band?
I hope that is true but we wont know till it is released
If they do the same thing they did with the original Touch Pro, the U.S. version includes the 2100MHz band. Most previous HTC 3G phones before the Diamond came with 850/1900/2100MHz, even the european ones, but that was before the 900MHz band was introduced. For the Touch Pro they had European 900/2100MHz and the U.S. version with 850/1900/2100MHz.