i read around for methods on flashing a rom. this is my first time .i did a back up with hpb backup and put hard spl 2 on my phone. from what i read sdcard is the best route to go . my question is do i need to erase everytihng off of my card before doing the rom? or can i leave it all there put the ruu file on there and get started ? maybe i should ask is there a tutorial to how to do the different methods?
a side note how do i know if a rom is friendly to changing the orientation when you slide for the keyboard
Natureboyhcg said:
i read around for methods on flashing a rom. this is my first time .i did a back up with hpb backup and put hard spl 2 on my phone. from what i read sdcard is the best route to go . my question is do i need to erase everytihng off of my card before doing the rom? or can i leave it all there put the ruu file on there and get started ? maybe i should ask is there a tutorial to how to do the different methods?
a side note how do i know if a rom is friendly to changing the orientation when you slide for the keyboard
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No you don't have to take everything off the card. Make sure your card is 2gig or smaller and not SDHC. Here is a link to the instructions in the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlash
As far as the keyboard orientation you could search in the rom's thread for any reference to it or just flash the rom and see for yourself.
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No you don't have to take everything off the card. Make sure your card is 2gig or smaller and not SDHC. Here is a link to the instructions in the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlash
As far as the keyboard orientation you could search in the rom's thread for any reference to it or just flash the rom and see for yourself.
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im confused, does the card need to be 2gb or smaller, not sdhc, to properly do hardspl or general. cause ive read the phone only supports 2gb or smaller microsd. but i have also seen the 16gb or 32gb thread, ive seen others saying about using larger than 2gb cards in their phones. im awaiting the delivery of my phone currently and i have a 4gb microsd i use in my htc excalibur i was planning on using. so im majorly confused as to if im going to be able to use it or not, or if i just need a 2gb to do the intial hardspl then ill be fine w/ my 4gb once i go to a cooked rom.
would greatly appreciate some clarity on this all from someone.
WM05 and bootloader only support 2Gb or less though there is an sdhc patch for WM05.
WM06 had the patch to support SDHC cards from 4Gb up to 32Gb. WM6.1 and WM6.5 are also SDHC compliant.
You need a 2Gb or less sd card to flash an OS or different SPL as the bootloader only supports 2Gb or less. Its not upgradeable.
Now that everythings clear as mud,
Cheers...
You could also pick up a 1 gig (or even a 512meg) card on the cheap to do your flashing, and use the 4 gig for your everyday storage in the phone. Then have the best of both worlds!
psylink said:
im confused, does the card need to be 2gb or smaller, not sdhc, to properly do hardspl or general. cause ive read the phone only supports 2gb or smaller microsd. but i have also seen the 16gb or 32gb thread, ive seen others saying about using larger than 2gb cards in their phones. im awaiting the delivery of my phone currently and i have a 4gb microsd i use in my htc excalibur i was planning on using. so im majorly confused as to if im going to be able to use it or not, or if i just need a 2gb to do the intial hardspl then ill be fine w/ my 4gb once i go to a cooked rom.
would greatly appreciate some clarity on this all from someone.
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You need a smaller than 2gig card for flashing. Everything else you can use your 4 gig card. (As Ultramag69 and Boog321 say) The original question was to do with flashing hardspl or roms only.
KK13 said:
You need a smaller than 2gig card for flashing. Everything else you can use your 4 gig card. (As Ultramag69 and Boog321 say) The original question was to do with flashing hardspl or roms only.
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HardSPL only needed to install once, after that you can install whatever ROMs you like many times.
True, but if you use the sd card method to install roms you will still need a 2Gb or less sd card...
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True, but if you use the sd card method to install roms you will still need a 2Gb or less sd card...
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Hi Ultramag
I have a problem installing with sdcard.
Have followed the Wiki, have discussed with you previously, Boog and anagarika still no solution. I have elaborated step by step what I did in separate thread.
Do you mind have a look and advise some?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316726&page=34
StefanHou said:
Hi Ultramag
I have a problem installing with sdcard.
Have followed the Wiki, have discussed with you previously, Boog and anagarika still no solution. I have elaborated step by step what I did in separate thread.
Do you mind have a look and advise some?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316726&page=34
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Did you try formating the SD card on a desktop (or laptop) computer and not phone with Memaid?? Maybe that has something to do with it. Is it a 2gig card or less than 2 gig??
As KK13 said, try a pc to format the card as the steps are right.
Double check that the .nbh is named hermimg.nbh as I know of at least 2 people who named it herming.nbh, small mistake but a critical one.
Remove and insert the sd card then reboot to tri-colour screen. Might do something.
But I strongly recommend using the PC to format the sd card FAT32.
Cheers...
ultramag69 said:
As KK13 said, try a pc to format the card as the steps are right.
Double check that the .nbh is named hermimg.nbh as I know of at least 2 people who named it herming.nbh, small mistake but a critical one.
Remove and insert the sd card then reboot to tri-colour screen. Might do something.
But I strongly recommend using the PC to format the sd card FAT32.
Cheers...
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Onya dude .. you have a better way with words !!
ultramag69 said:
As KK13 said, try a pc to format the card as the steps are right.
Double check that the .nbh is named hermimg.nbh as I know of at least 2 people who named it herming.nbh, small mistake but a critical one.
Remove and insert the sd card then reboot to tri-colour screen. Might do something.
But I strongly recommend using the PC to format the sd card FAT32.
Cheers...
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OK, will find SDconverter and try the suggestion, thx KK and Ultramag
*Newbie* Custom ROM Flashing Guide
Just follow the steps start from 1. Don't skip step unless it is an optional step.
PC Requirement: Windows XP, ActiveSync [Don't try to flash with Vista if you are new], 7zip Installed (Google it)
Connect your device to your computer and make sure the ActiveSync icon appeared on your phone before proceeding. 50% or above bettery is a must. Your phone won't charge when flashing.
1. HardSPL (A Big Big Must)
I asume you are using the original ROM from manufacture as HardSPL won't work with custom ROM.
Download HardSPL V7 from here. Unzip the whole things. Execute the "RUUWrapper" thing and select "Force Using SSPL". Check all the boxes in all the steps and continue with updates. Look at your phone and press "Yes" to everything that prompted. Then your phone will restart in Tri-Color mode [a.k.a bootloader] and start flashing HardSPL.
In this case if any errors appear on your computer screen before the update progress start, soft reset your phone, let it boot into Windows and start RUUWrapper again.
If error appear during flashing progress, then you might in deep hell. Try not to worry. Manually put your device into bootloader (Hold On/Off Btn + Left OK Btn, then push the soft-reset btn). Then start the RUUWrapper again.
End of the step you should see 'HardSPL 2.10Olipro' in bootloader mode.
2. Radio Flashing *Optional*
You can choose not to flash your Radio Stack if you satisfy with the existing. Additional, Radio Stack flashing is the main cause of device bricking (the death of your device)
Choose and download your Radio ROM here. Do some research about the Radio ROM that fits you and your country. Recommended the latest 1.56.70.11. Unpack everything and you will see something similar to HardSPL (RUUWrapper). Don't run RUUWrapper this time.
Let's do the safe way. Format your MicroSD card into FAT32 (Kill yourself if you don't know). Then copy the RUU_signed.nbh into your MicroSD. Then rename RUU_signed.nbh to hermimg.nbh. Put your MicroSD into you phone.
Manually put your phone into bootloader mode. Then a different screen with grey background should appear shortly. Press On/Off btn to start flashing. After the process done (it will tell you when it is done, don't try to judge yourself if you feels that 50% is done), soft-reset your phone.
During flashing, put your phone aside and enjoy your coffee. Don't touch it before it ends as this is dangerous. Don't ever fail radio flashing. Careful, careful and careful.
End of this step, you should see R 1.56.70.11 during Windows Boot.
3. Custom ROM Flashing
First, download Dopod 838 Stripped ROM. Then unpack it. Delete your previous hermimg.nbh in MicroSD which you use to flash Radio Stack. Then copy RUU_signed.nbh from Dopod 838 Stripped ROM to your MicroSD and rename it to hermimg.nbh. Put your device into booloader and start flashing like how you flash you radio rom. After it done, give your device a Hard-Reset (Hold Left + Right softkey and press Reset. Slide you keyboard then press R and SPACE). This official ROM from Dopod is very important which need to be flashed before you flash your custom ROM.
Then the last step is get your custom ROM loaded. Download custom ROM from this forum (Recommended from TAI_sw or JoshKoss).
Then simply follow the steps in Dopod 838 Stripped ROM Flashing.
(Then copy RUU_signed.nbh from Custom ROM to your MicroSD and rename it to hermimg.nbh. Put your device into booloader and start flashing like how you flash you radio rom. After it done, give your device a Hard-Reset (Hold Left + Right softkey and press Reset. Slide you keyboard then press R and SPACE).)
Yes. I have grammar mistakes. Sorry!
That's your ROM and don't expect every ROM is stable. You will see some bugs in Custom ROM. Post your bugs at their own thread.
Anything just PM me.
Thanks
-Ziv-
zivkong said:
*Newbie* Custom ROM Flashing Guide
Just follow the steps start from 1. Don't skip step unless it is an optional step.
PC Requirement: Windows XP, ActiveSync [Don't try to flash with Vista if you are new], 7zip Installed (Google it)
Connect your device to your computer and make sure the ActiveSync icon appeared on your phone before proceeding. 50% or above bettery is a must. Your phone won't charge when flashing.
1. HardSPL (A Big Big Must)
I asume you are using the original ROM from manufacture as HardSPL won't work with custom ROM.
Download HardSPL V7 from here. Unzip the whole things. Execute the "RUUWrapper" thing and select "Force Using SSPL". Check all the boxes in all the steps and continue with updates. Look at your phone and press "Yes" to everything that prompted. Then your phone will restart in Tri-Color mode [a.k.a bootloader] and start flashing HardSPL.
In this case if any errors appear on your computer screen before the update progress start, soft reset your phone, let it boot into Windows and start RUUWrapper again.
If error appear during flashing progress, then you might in deep hell. Try not to worry. Manually put your device into bootloader (Hold On/Off Btn + Left OK Btn, then push the soft-reset btn). Then start the RUUWrapper again.
End of the step you should see 'HardSPL 2.10Olipro' in bootloader mode.
2. Radio Flashing *Optional*
You can choose not to flash your Radio Stack if you satisfy with the existing. Additional, Radio Stack flashing is the main cause of device bricking (the death of your device)
Choose and download your Radio ROM here. Do some research about the Radio ROM that fits you and your country. Recommended the latest 1.56.70.11. Unpack everything and you will see something similar to HardSPL (RUUWrapper). Don't run RUUWrapper this time.
Let's do the safe way. Format your MicroSD card into FAT32 (Kill yourself if you don't know). Then copy the RUU_signed.nbh into your MicroSD. Then rename RUU_signed.nbh to hermimg.nbh. Put your MicroSD into you phone.
Manually put your phone into bootloader mode. Then a different screen with grey background should appear shortly. Press On/Off btn to start flashing. After the process done (it will tell you when it is done, don't try to judge yourself if you feels that 50% is done), soft-reset your phone.
During flashing, put your phone aside and enjoy your coffee. Don't touch it before it ends as this is dangerous. Don't ever fail radio flashing. Careful, careful and careful.
End of this step, you should see R 1.56.70.11 during Windows Boot.
3. Custom ROM Flashing
First, download Dopod 838 Stripped ROM. Then unpack it. Delete your previous hermimg.nbh in MicroSD which you use to flash Radio Stack. Then copy RUU_signed.nbh from Dopod 838 Stripped ROM to your MicroSD and rename it to hermimg.nbh. Put your device into booloader and start flashing like how you flash you radio rom. After it done, give your device a Hard-Reset (Hold Left + Right softkey and press Reset. Slide you keyboard then press R and SPACE). This official ROM from Dopod is very important which need to be flashed before you flash your custom ROM.
Then the last step is get your custom ROM loaded. Download custom ROM from this forum (Recommended from TAI_sw or JoshKoss).
Then simply follow the steps in Dopod 838 Stripped ROM Flashing.
(Then copy RUU_signed.nbh from Custom ROM to your MicroSD and rename it to hermimg.nbh. Put your device into booloader and start flashing like how you flash you radio rom. After it done, give your device a Hard-Reset (Hold Left + Right softkey and press Reset. Slide you keyboard then press R and SPACE).)
Yes. I have grammar mistakes. Sorry!
That's your ROM and don't expect every ROM is stable. You will see some bugs in Custom ROM. Post your bugs at their own thread.
Anything just PM me.
Thanks
-Ziv-
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Hi Ziv
I have flashed over twenty or more cooked ROM, and they are successfully done through Active Sync. As you see in my signature, My IPL is 1.04 and my SPL is 2.10 Olipro.
I have also followed Ultramag and KK suggestion to format the SDCard using PC. And still stuck in bootloader (3 colors) and one more: it states 'Serial' in the bottom color (white).
I also bought the new 1GB SDCard, but the problem persit.
So, is there any other suggestion to try?
StefanHou said:
Hi Ziv
I have flashed over twenty or more cooked ROM, and they are successfully done through Active Sync. As you see in my signature, My IPL is 1.04 and my SPL is 2.10 Olipro.
I have also followed Ultramag and KK suggestion to format the SDCard using PC. And still stuck in bootloader (3 colors) and one more: it states 'Serial' in the bottom color (white).
I also bought the new 1GB SDCard, but the problem persit.
So, is there any other suggestion to try?
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Ultramag, KK13, Boog & Zocster
Have tested using SD Converter and formatted it with PC, still no use. In the boot loader screen, I stucked with 'Serial' in the white bar. Is this meaning something to you? Any other work around?
Man, I don't have a clue. The only issue I ever encountered was thinking my card was formatted fat32 when it wasn't.
I think this is now beyond me.
StefanHou said:
Ultramag, KK13, Boog & Zocster
Have tested using SD Converter and formatted it with PC, still no use. In the boot loader screen, I stucked with 'Serial' in the white bar. Is this meaning something to you? Any other work around?
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Well now .. you've got me too. I have only had "serial" showing in the boot loader once and it was because I had the wrong sd card in with no HERMIMG file. Once I put the right one in with the file and reset the device it was ok. All I would suggest is to do a Hard reset and follow all the steps again one by one, triple checking everything. Maybe write everything you do down and post it back here.
Also check your spelling of hermimg.nbh as a simple error will screw up everything...
Also put sd card in then reset to bootloader, hold in all the buttons - ok, power and reset with stylus, until the bootloader comes up.
Cheers...
KK13 said:
Well now .. you've got me too. I have only had "serial" showing in the boot loader once and it was because I had the wrong sd card in with no HERMIMG file. Once I put the right one in with the file and reset the device it was ok. All I would suggest is to do a Hard reset and follow all the steps again one by one, triple checking everything. Maybe write everything you do down and post it back here.
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KK13, Boog and Ultramag
OK this is what I did last night:
1. Flashing to the shipped AT&T Stripped ROM
2. Having it reflashed with the HardSPL V7 (to ensure the file is non corrupted, I re-downloaded it from some links in some thread and check the file size, they are all the same )
3. Reformating my SD Card with PC for FAT32;
4. Copy the nbh file and rename it with HERMIMG.nbh (recheck three times and I think I get it right. btw, is there any different to write it in capital? );
5. Press OK and Power, then stick the reset button.
6. Go to the boot loader (with 'Serial' on ht white screen)
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Hi
I HardSPL my phone with Hard-SPL-V7 then I have update wm6.1 (OS+5.2.19209+(Build+19209.1.0.2+PV+DVH)+(B&C)+8MB+PP.rar) but
my phone is continuous halting after 5 to 6 hours as well as 1 to 2 days then after halting i have to hard rest the phone to run again. I have change many roms but the halting problem remains same.
Please anybody help me
Regards
you need to flash a stock windows mobile rom. the best seems to be the ATT rom.
Do this before you flash any rom and it is sure to fix your problems.
You are able to find the rom in the WIKI.
thanks for ur reply
i have download rom from wiki but not installing in my phone
actually i have imate jasjam radio version 1.07.03.10. problem is
when i install rom in my phone error occur the rom version problem or cable not connect.
note that i already install hard spl v7. ipl 2.01 olipro
what should i do. may i downgrade radio version before install wiki rom?
please help me
You could try flashing the ROM from the SD Card, I had the same problem and that worked for me. Instructions on how to do so in the wiki.
Thanks hamster, I have successfully install wiki ROM with following steps.
1 - Download wiki rom for my mobile
2 - Download Dutty's Good NBH Tool
3 - Extract .nbh file from wiki rom
4 - Create new .nbh file from Dutty's Good NBH tool
5 - Install new rom from RUUWrapper.exe.
Please tell me now what to do? am i install wm6.1 now?
ialwaywanted, you are using the wrong instructions... What you need to do is format an sd card fat 32. copy the .nbh file onto the sd card and rename it to "hermimg.nbh". Put the sd card back into you phone and go into bootloader(hold ok button above flywheel, power button and use stylus to soft reset. hold all three buttns in until you get to tri-colour screen). It should automatically detect the os upgrade and ask you to push power button to upgrade os. After it finishes soft reset and you will have successfully upgraded os with sd card. I find this safer than using the pc as ther will be no "accidents" with power, usb cable being yanked or resetting of the pc.
Hope this helps..... Cheers...
Yes i have successfully install rom in phone from SD card. Greart its working thanks a lot.
But my actual problem is when i install wm6.1 its stuck my phone on any screen then i hardrest the phone which cause all my installed progam and data was removed from phone.
Please suggest.
I seem to have success with Pdaviet 19900 and 19581. These were very stable for me when others weren't. You might need to experiment with different series of 6.1.
As for backing up everything on my phone, I use SPB backup. Please note however it is a commercial program. Also, you have to be restoring the backup on the same version and series of wm6.1 otherwise you will have problems.
It puts EVERY file back exactly as found so upgrading then running the restore is pointless. You have to find the right rom then backup. Make sure you back up regularly though or else you will find things missing. Cheers....
hey guys,
i've problems to update my pocket pc to mobile 6. I tried both methods no one works for me.
First i tried to connect my pocket to my pc and started windows mobile center. Downloaded all the files, but always when i start the update, my pocket goes to the boot screen with the red, freen and blue stripes and the connection disconnects. And i get the message 260 update problems and my pocket stays at the boot screen. Than i tried the same with Windows XP and ActiveSync, the same problem again.
After that, i tried to update with a micro SD card 2GB. I downloaded the "Hard-SPL-V7"-File and saved it to the micro SD. Rebooted the Pocket, but nothing happend, the pocket stayed in the boot screen. Than i renamed RUU_signed.nbh in HERMIMG.nbh and tried it again, nothing happens.
Can somebody help me please? I want to use mobile 6, because i want to use a 8GB Micro SD.
EDIT: THANKS A LOT, but now i have a new Problem i described it in post #6 in this thread. Thank u 4 helping me.
EDIT II: Thank u all, i fixed it by myself. Finally the upgrade worked with XP and ActiveSync. The best thanks to ultramag69 again, he solved my problem.
If you are using vista you need to install this, removing all older versions
Do you have the newest .net framework on your computer from here?
You wont be able to flash via SD without HardSPL, so you need todo it via activesync.
Try another USB port.
Try flashing the shipped from for your device, you can get your newest WM6 rom from here.
If that fails, tell us:
Whats your device (theres loads of different models of the Hermes)
Have you flashed anything before?
What rom is on your device atm?
What SPL do you have atm? (Hard or not)
Also check your serial number against this list for known problems.
There are certain steps needed to be taken. First is making sure your computer has the .net compact framework. Get it here.
Only then can you run hard spl from your computer.
Also, when you put on a .nbh file onto the microsd and rename it, you need to go into bootloader not reboot. You need to hold the power button and ok button while pressing the reset button with stylus...
I have got the same problem....
Using XP not able to flash neither via Active sync nor by SD card...
Stck at MRH 8.4...
Go to post 1160 on page 116 of this thread to flash Hard SPL using the sd card method - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
You can't flash using the sd card method without Hard SPL. To flash Hard SPl on you need to do an extra step - flash with soft SPL.
To flash the os just leave out steps 5 & 6 from the above post after you have Hard SPL installed...
Cheers...
Thank you guys for helping me,
A big thank to ultramag69, your post solved my problems. It worked great.
But now i have a new problem. I upgrated the SPL to HardSPL v7 (opipro 2.10). With the help from ultramag69 it worked perfect. Sooner i did the radio update with Micro SD - worked perfect too.
So finally i tried to update the ROM, downloaded the german ROM version from this Thread copied all files to the micro SD, renamed the SPL.nbh file in HERMIMG.nbh and did a reboot (ok, start and reset buttons) like i did it before. But it shows me at the screen only HERMIMG.nbh and BOOTLADER. When i start the update it runs 2 seconds and i get the message HERMIMG.nbh - OK BOOTLOADER - OK UPDATE COMPLETE. But it doesnt start the WM6 Update. Why not? Can someone help me again please?
I think the only file that's supposed to be on the microsd is the hermimg file...
not sure if having other files there will effect it like that...
Rollswap said:
... copied all files to the micro SD, renamed the SPL.nbh file in HERMIMG.nbh and... But it doesnt start the WM6 Update. Why not? Can someone help me again please?
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the only file that you have to copy to your SD card is RUU_Wrapper.nbh (size: about 90 MB) after naming it to HERMIMG.nbh
note that this will up-/downgrade your Radio to V1.47.00.10 so you can also check other available German Versions with other Radio versions on the Hermes Wiki
Please help
I have done everything but not able to flash...
Currently i have flashed AT&T rom...
with Hard SPL (a year ago)
I am not able to flash via USB or by SD card...
always everything stuck at bootloader
Please help
alex8525 said:
Please help
I have done everything but not able to flash...
Currently i have flashed AT&T rom...
with Hard SPL (a year ago)
I am not able to flash via USB or by SD card...
always everything stuck at bootloader
Please help
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Ok are you running XP? what errors do you get on your PC? what ROM are you running currently? etc etc, the more information you can give us the more we can help
zocster said:
Ok are you running XP? what errors do you get on your PC? what ROM are you running currently? etc etc, the more information you can give us the more we can help
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I am using XP..Activesync 4.5 installed...
Previously I have flashed many ROMs using this setup and even I have flashed AT&T official ROM yesterday (Previously I was on MRH 8.4)
Now I am not able flash...Phone is connected and synced...
On strating any Flash (I have tried many PDAcorner, MRH, Schaps etc.. Even AT&T official again) It goes upto bootloader, I can see USB in bootloader..
After that PC shows your phone is not connected acheck USB connection...
And even using SD card method I can go up to bootloader then it does'nt flas anything and not even shows any ROM...
I have Hrd SPL alredy flashed
Any one help?
alex8525 said:
I am using XP..Activesync 4.5 installed...
Previously I have flashed many ROMs using this setup and even I have flashed AT&T official ROM yesterday (Previously I was on MRH 8.4)
Now I am not able flash...Phone is connected and synced...
On strating any Flash (I have tried many PDAcorner, MRH, Schaps etc.. Even AT&T official again) It goes upto bootloader, I can see USB in bootloader..
After that PC shows your phone is not connected acheck USB connection...
And even using SD card method I can go up to bootloader then it does'nt flas anything and not even shows any ROM...
I have Hrd SPL alredy flashed
Any one help?
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Ok so what is the status of your device now, have you flashed back to official shipped rom?
Please try these instructions. also here please view.
If the sd card is more than 2gb it won't be recognised by bootloader. The os (wm06+) is able to detect and read sdhc but the bootloader doesn't.
Did you format the sd card fat32. I know a few people who swear black and blue they did but when I reformatted it, it was registering as being fat.
Did you copy ONLY THE .NBH file to the sd card and rename it to hermimg.nbh? Won't be recognised if you didn't.
These are steps I tend to go through myself as 1 little thing overlooked can mean either nothing happens or disaster....
Cheers...
Hello everyone. I haven't flashed Android to NAND yet but I'd like to try it.
I am sure this question has been asked before but I did try the search and I couldn't find it. Sorry if this has already been asked.
So, for the Kaiser, if I flash Android to NAND (ie: Polymod's most recent) how do you flash back to Windows Mobile?
I'm concerned because USB does not connect properly when Android is running with HaRET ("unrecognized USB device" using XP SP3 couldn't make heads or tails of the drivers in the SDK but then I didn't try installing the whole environment)
So I guess my question is -- even with the device unrecognized, can you still flash it back? If so, how? Is it really simple and easy?
Please let me know and point me in the right direction! Thanks!
aikeru said:
Hello everyone. I haven't flashed Android to NAND yet but I'd like to try it.
I am sure this question has been asked before but I did try the search and I couldn't find it. Sorry if this has already been asked.
So, for the Kaiser, if I flash Android to NAND (ie: Polymod's most recent) how do you flash back to Windows Mobile?
I'm concerned because USB does not connect properly when Android is running with HaRET ("unrecognized USB device" using XP SP3 couldn't make heads or tails of the drivers in the SDK but then I didn't try installing the whole environment)
So I guess my question is -- even with the device unrecognized, can you still flash it back? If so, how? Is it really simple and easy?
Please let me know and point me in the right direction! Thanks!
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I beleive you can always follow the process here.
Your boot loader should not change when flashing so not being able to use the USB while in Android is not going to prevent your returning back to a stock ROM. I have not tested this but I'm pretty sure that you can always get back to your boot loader screen and re-flash from that point. Can someone confirm that this is the appropriate solution?
deekjx said:
I beleive you can always follow the process here.
Your boot loader should not change when flashing so not being able to use the USB while in Android is not going to prevent your returning back to a stock ROM. I have not tested this but I'm pretty sure that you can always get back to your boot loader screen and re-flash from that point. Can someone confirm that this is the appropriate solution?
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Did anyone try this solution?
Since the bootloader is still there all you do if not able to flash via async when in android is flash via bootloader
Moved to general as not ROM Dev.
Thanks for the information, guys!! I will have to try it out over this weekend and see how it goes...
I can confirm that flashing via bootloader works fine, also flashing from SD works as well, in fact I keep a 128MB sd with a WM kaisimg.nbh on it handy just in case I need to flash a good WM rom for some reason.
Is there an Android OS with everything working on the Kaiser?
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Is there an Android OS with everything working on the Kaiser?
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You can see in different post of android rom what works and what doesn't works.
actually, Bluetooth and camera never works for in android 2.x build and some other apps doesn't works
I've been running Android for a few weeks now from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614382
I've found everything to work with the exception of Bluetooth, video camera (normal camera works fine), and the barcode scanner. Also, my battery life is cut in half, but I have an extended life battery so I get a day or two out of it.
I prefer this method as you can just boot Android at will and can soft reset to go back to WinMo.
Just to let everyone know I did flash WM back just fine since I have HardSPL 3.56 and used the stylus to press the reset + camera button at the same time to get to the tri-color screen.
From there I flashed from USB without any problems.
Thanks again for all the help!
I am having problems reverting back to WM after attempting to install android to NAND. Something happened where the only way I was able to get to the android installer would be if I had the KAISDIAG.nbh file on the SD card so it would get past the tri color hard spl screen . Well as a result, I can't get into boot loader. It shows that screen for a split second, then if I do camera + power and then reset. Then I have to pull the battery. Can someone help me? It seems like it will only go into the Android bootloader, which obviously won't allow it to install a WM rom. SD flashes are my only choice because the usb port is pretty messed up. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
The procedure for flashing WM back using SD card is much the same as flashing the Nand bootloader for Android.
First get a WM rom, copy the RUU_Signed.nbh to SD card, rename it to KAISimg.nbh, pull the battery, replace, press power and hold camera button, this should start the flash process.
Note that the SD card must be formatted FAT32, or it will not find the KAISimg.nbh.
If you prefer to flash a stock rom you will usually have to extract the RUU_Signed.nbh from the installer, just open it in winrar.
the reset in android is not working correctly. The correct way to get into bootloader is to pull the battery, wait a few minutes, rpelace the battery, press power and then press and hold camera button, do not use reset.
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The procedure for flashing WM back using SD card is much the same as flashing the Nand bootloader for Android.
First get a WM rom, copy the RUU_Signed.nbh to SD card, rename it to KAISimg.nbh, pull the battery, replace, press power and hold camera button, this should start the flash process.
Note that the SD card must be formatted FAT32, or it will not find the KAISimg.nbh.
If you prefer to flash a stock rom you will usually have to extract the RUU_Signed.nbh from the installer, just open it in winrar.
the reset in android is not working correctly. The correct way to get into bootloader is to pull the battery, wait a few minutes, rpelace the battery, press power and then press and hold camera button, do not use reset.
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Thanks, but unfortunately this still did not work. Have any other suggestions? I think the only way will it even do anything is if I have the KAISDIAG.nbh file on the card. It recognizes that, but then goes straight to linux. IDK what else to do. Could you be a little more clear on the procedure for getting into the bootloader? Thanks.
Ok please follow these steps carefully.
1. Format the SD card, make sure you are formatting it as FAT32, not FAT.
2. Download a Winmo Rom from somewhere handy.
3. Extract the Rom to a handy folder, find the RUU_Signed.nbh file, rename that to KAISimg.nbh
4. Copy the KAISimg.nbh file to the SD card. You should only have one file on the SD card, no folders just the NBH file.
5. pull the battery from the phone, wait at least 5 minutes.
6. Replace the battery. Press Power button, and hold down camera button, until the tri color screen appears.
7. The screen should now change to a white one, and when it's checked the nbh it will ask you to press power key again. do that.
8. Now it should flash the rom, this should take a while, 5-10 minutes, once it's finished you should get a message of success.
9. Now pull the battery again, wait 5 minutes, replace the battery, and power on, you should now boot into Winmo.
Hopefully this should solve your problems, if not then let me know which setp failed and we can work on that stage.
Finally, don't panic, take it slow, it'll all work out
Thanks, but the problem starts at number 6. I am supposed to press the power button, release it, and hold the camera button till it gets to the white screen, right? It's still stuck at the splash screen. I tried holding both and that didn't work either. Anything else I can try? I hope i'm not screwed?
If I put the battery in, boot it up, then push the camera and insert the stylus into the reset hole, it gets to the tricolor screen, then for about 0.5sec it flashes the white screen with a message saying "No image File." I know for sure the .nbh file is there.
I have experienced this before, when I tried to use an SD card that was formatted FAT, when formatting you must make sure it is formatted FAT32, the bootloader cannot read FAT formatted SD cards, even if Winmo and Android can.
I format using a card reader, and in windows it is sometimes easy to overlook the file system type, most SD cards are usually formatted FAT when they are new, and you must change the formatting, or it will just format FAT again.
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I have experienced this before, when I tried to use an SD card that was formatted FAT, when formatting you must make sure it is formatted FAT32, the bootloader cannot read FAT formatted SD cards, even if Winmo and Android can.
I format using a card reader, and in windows it is sometimes easy to overlook the file system type, most SD cards are usually formatted FAT when they are new, and you must change the formatting, or it will just format FAT again.
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Unfortunately, as much as I wish it was, it is not the problem. I'm on a Mac, but booted windows 7 to be make sure it was formatted to FAT 32, which it was. Is there some way I can fix permissions? Every time it runs, I keep getting the error saying that it is in read only mode. I obviously need to get it into writing mode. I don't think the fix permissions option on the installer did anything either.
The eclair build still will not install on my phone. I changed to an earlier .nbh file and now don't need the KAISDIAG.nbh file to get out of the splash screen and into the installer. When I run the install command for NAND, it says it can't mount, "no such file exists", "failed to extract." Keep in mind I haven't even gotten Android installed to NAND, just the installer itself. I can't even go back to WinMo either. It also seems like a permissions error since I believe it said the SD card is read only, but when plugged into my computer I fixed that and now it is read-write, but not on the phone. Please help because I really want to either get this working, or get back to WinMo instead of have this useless phone I currently have. Thanks.
Is there a way to enter the command line from the installer screen?
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The eclair build still will not install on my phone. I changed to an earlier .nbh file and now don't need the KAISDIAG.nbh file to get out of the splash screen and into the installer. When I run the install command for NAND, it says it can't mount, "no such file exists", "failed to extract." Keep in mind I haven't even gotten Android installed to NAND, just the installer itself. I can't even go back to WinMo either. It also seems like a permissions error since I believe it said the SD card is read only, but when plugged into my computer I fixed that and now it is read-write, but not on the phone. Please help because I really want to either get this working, or get back to WinMo instead of have this useless phone I currently have. Thanks.
Is there a way to enter the command line from the installer screen?
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Alright, I'll try and sum up your experiences. Tell us if we're missing anything;
You have the following symptoms
Linux Android-installer works
Tri-color bootloader semi-works
You cannot use the USB
You cannot install polymod's Eclair build
Now, you have mentioned a couple of things you have tried, such as
Replacing the Linux NBH with another version
Fixing permissions on the SD-card
Fixing permissions through the Android-installer
Flashing a WinMO ROM through SD card
You did mention getting other behaviours when you switched to another NBH, such as "KAISDIAG.nbh" not being required.
Now, this is a long shot coming from me, as I have had no troubles with flashing, and the fact that I can use my USB, but since your phone is pretty messed up I guess it can't hurt as a suggestion;
You can flash to other NBH's I take it, as you mentioned you did a downgrade. What I'm a bit curious about is whether you did try to flash to a WinMO rom when you had downgraded to your current NBH.
Also, you said the previous NBH required you to have "KAISDIAG.nbh" on the card to even get working. Did you try and rename a WinMO-ROM's NBH to "KAISDIAG.nbh" and flash that? Might be that the flasher is really constrictive with the file names.
EDIT: Oh, and what about trying to run other Eclair builds? Just to see if you can nail it down to this being a problem of the builds or something more bound to the actual hardware/SPL/NBH's.
Hi, I installed android to my touch but now I'd like to go back to window mobile. I haven't been able to figure out how to flash it back to windows... any help?
Thanks
reflash a winmo build.
I'd love to reflash to a winmo build, but i just don't know how.
search. read the wiki's @ the top.
why go back anyway?
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Long story short. i'm trying android again to see if the newest build has better battery life. the last build couldn't hold a charge long enough to make it worht while as a phone.
The only way i've ever gotten android to get data after being flashed has been to get it working in windows first and then installing android.
i've read and searched for a step by step on how to do this and i just haven't been fruitful.
just download and flash one of the 6.5 builds....there's a very informative guide on how to
The guides that i see want me to establish an active sync connection to flash the device but I have android installed and i cant' establish an active sync connection. I think thats my major hangup. Is there a way to flash it from the memory card?
not that Im aware of.. my have to RUU back to stock and start over.
look here for sprint rom http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Vogue/
That would be just fine too... i still don't know how to do it. When i run the rom update utility it gives me a connection error.
Edit: I realize that i'm being vague. Let me try to fill in the gaps. I am putting my phone into the bootloader mode, hooking it up to my PC via USB and running the Rom update Utility with a custom rom. The phone has been unlocked so it really shouldn't have any trouble..
What am I doing wrong?
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The guides that i see want me to establish an active sync connection to flash the device but I have android installed and i cant' establish an active sync connection. I think thats my major hangup. Is there a way to flash it from the memory card?
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Put your phone in Bootloader Mode by pressing the Camera and Power buttons and then the Reset button all at the same time.
Then make sure you have a radio of 3.4x or above... If not Flash back to a new stock Rom and then follow the threads you were just reading.
If you radio is good go and Download one of the ROMS here on this forum.
Happy Flashing!
P.S Please Ask your Questions in the Q and A section of this forum.
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That would be just fine too... i still don't know how to do it. When i run the rom update utility it gives me a connection error.
Edit: I realize that i'm being vague. Let me try to fill in the gaps. I am putting my phone into the bootloader mode, hooking it up to my PC via USB and running the Rom update Utility with a custom rom. The phone has been unlocked so it really shouldn't have any trouble..
What am I doing wrong?
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Make sure it says usb at the bottom of the bootloader.
Ok, I found out the problem... i'm retarded.
Thank you for your patience. Sorry to have been a bother and put this in the wrong place.
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Ok, I found out the problem... i'm retarded.
Thank you for your patience. Sorry to have been a bother and put this in the wrong place.
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No problem.
Glad you got it figured out!
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Ok, I found out the problem... i'm retarded.
Thank you for your patience. Sorry to have been a bother and put this in the wrong place.
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No bother....learning experience.
so what was the problem?
so what was the problem because I'm trying to get from android to win 6.5 and the computer is saying that my xv6900 isn't hooked up even though on bootloader it says usb...any help would be great
How to Flash a Vogue without ActiveSync
How to Flash a Vogue Without ActiveSync
A method so easy my Mother could do it.
Not suggesting there's anything wrong with my mother, just that she's not all that technically oriented.
Here's an easy way to flash your HTC Vogue without using ActiveSync. It would likely be a great method to use if you had many Vogues that all needed to be updated as well. Works great for those not using Windows, as well.
Look around for a Transflash (aka MicroSD) card, one that you can erase, 2GB or less.
Use your Windows machine to make sure it's freshly formatted as FAT32]
Copy the ROM you want to flash to the card.
Rename the file you just copied to VOGUIMG.nbh If you are flashing a different model, you need to be sure you have the right file name for it. I think the pattern is the first 4 letters of the model name with IMG.nbh after it, but if it doesn't work, don't blame me,
Put card in phone.
Enter bootloader mode by holding the CAMERA and POWER buttons, while pressing the RESET button in the little hole in the bottom of the phone. (don't bother to connect it to your computer)
Enjoy a caffinated beverage of your choice, or an alcoholic beverage of your choice, or heck, a nice tall glass of cool water while you wait.
Watch as your phone automagically flashes itself!
Congratulate yourself on a job well done.
This is what I'm going to use from now on for flashing with a Mac or Linux. For those addicted to flashing, you can even take a collection of cards with you. I'm not yet sure if you can have multiple ROMs on one card, and just rename the one you want to flash or not yet, but I'll likely find out soon.
ATTENTION:
Missing any of these will make it NOT WORK:
Card must be normal SD, not SDHC or XDHC. No bigger than 2GB
Card must be formatted with FAT32. They often come formatted FAT16 or plain FAT, and a previously-used card could have just about any format on it -- NTFS. HPFS. HFS+. EXT3 -- Format it right to be sure.
Be sure you have the right name. I've heard that CaSe cOuNtS -- the name above has been cut/pasted from a working reflash card.
There is no #4.
Have fun!
Oh yes, just in case:[Lawyer]You are responsible for your own actions. This information is provided as a public service, and I wave all responsibility for it's correctness or how it is used. If you brick your phone, it's your fault. If your phone explodes, not my problem, but I'd like the remains.[/Lawyer]
Gr1zz said:
How to Flash a Vogue Without ActiveSync
A method so easy my Mother could do it.
Not suggesting there's anything wrong with my mother, just that she's not all that technically oriented.
Here's an easy way to flash your HTC Vogue without using ActiveSync. It would likely be a great method to use if you had many Vogues that all needed to be updated as well. Works great for those not using Windows, as well.
Look around for a Transflash (aka MicroSD) card, one that you can erase, 2GB or less.
Use your Windows machine to make sure it's freshly formatted as FAT32]
Copy the ROM you want to flash to the card.
Rename the file you just copied to VOGUIMG.nbh If you are flashing a different model, you need to be sure you have the right file name for it. I think the pattern is the first 4 letters of the model name with IMG.nbh after it, but if it doesn't work, don't blame me,
Put card in phone.
Enter bootloader mode by holding the CAMERA and POWER buttons, while pressing the RESET button in the little hole in the bottom of the phone. (don't bother to connect it to your computer)
Enjoy a caffinated beverage of your choice, or an alcoholic beverage of your choice, or heck, a nice tall glass of cool water while you wait.
Watch as your phone automagically flashes itself!
Congratulate yourself on a job well done.
This is what I'm going to use from now on for flashing with a Mac or Linux. For those addicted to flashing, you can even take a collection of cards with you. I'm not yet sure if you can have multiple ROMs on one card, and just rename the one you want to flash or not yet, but I'll likely find out soon.
ATTENTION:
Missing any of these will make it NOT WORK:
Card must be normal SD, not SDHC or XDHC. No bigger than 2GB
Card must be formatted with FAT32. They often come formatted FAT16 or plain FAT, and a previously-used card could have just about any format on it -- NTFS. HPFS. HFS+. EXT3 -- Format it right to be sure.
Be sure you have the right name. I've heard that CaSe cOuNtS -- the name above has been cut/pasted from a working reflash card.
There is no #4.
Have fun!
Oh yes, just in case:[Lawyer]You are responsible for your own actions. This information is provided as a public service, and I wave all responsibility for it's correctness or how it is used. If you brick your phone, it's your fault. If your phone explodes, not my problem, but I'd like the remains.[/Lawyer]
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i do as yousay after i put it in bootloade mode it says loading for a split seconde then goes back to bootloader i need help i have android with no data i read that i need to reinstill wm get data working their then re install android i cant get wm back on this phone im going on 3 days trying to flash this yes its unlocked
Ive seen the program OpenRUU but can anyone tell me how to use it?
i want to flash from software 2.09 to 2.10 or above? is this possible? im rooted thru unrevoked but running a stock rom. Other than a gold card do i need anything else to use this program? and even if the ruu fails, it will not damage my phone?
thanks, adbird
EDIT: Actually do i need a gold card, my phone used to be branded under telus, but then i flashed a couple roms and eventually flashed the stock WWE rom, so do i need a gold card?
I have no experience with Mac but if you can't use a RUU, there is the PB99IMG.zip(which you can find using windows when the RUU is extracted) method which functions pretty much the same.
As for the gold card, you do need one, - debranding a branded handset doesn't make it unbranded .
Some people confuse "debranded" and "unbranded".
k thanks i guess i gotta go buy another sd card :/
There is no problem in making your regular card in the device, your goldcard, i.e., you don't need a dedicated microSD for gold card use exclusively .
but isnt clockworkmod kept on the sd? what if you format it
If I understand you correctly, you want to flash "2.10 or above".
Make a your card a goldcard ;
Put the ROM you want to install in the root of the memory card (/sdcard/ - in other words it should not be in any folder);
Make sure that the rom is renamed from something like "PB99IMG_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.2_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_151783_signed.zip" to "PB99IMG.zip" (zip is the extension, not part of the name);
Turn off the phone;
Turn on the phone while holding volume down, it should be recognized and you'll be asked to apply it.
will that unroot the device?
This might work for you
It helps flashing RUU's
WAIT, BEFORE YOU START, CREATE A GOLDCARD. IT IS VERY NECESSARY. THINGS WILL GO WRONG IF YOU DONT.
EDIT: YOU MUST BE ABLE TO BOOT GO TO THE BOOTLOADER MENU.
Firstly, download this file. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13240777/Desire Downgrade.ZIP
Extract the files.
Transfer the file PB99IMG to the root of your SD card (It is located in the extracted files)
Secondly, disconnect your phone and turn it off.
After that boot up your phone while pressing the volume down button and the power button.
The bootloader should be checking for files after awhile and once it found the file that is supposed to be in the root of your sd card, press the volume up button (NOT EXACTLY SURE, SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT SAYS YES AND CONTINUE)
It should be writing files to your phone. and replaces everything. E.G: HBOOT, RECOVERY,RADIO and such.
It should be writing files successfully and then it would ask you to reboot. Continue with the reboot and you should be having your Desire back to stock. Perfect.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE ARE RISKS INVOLVED LIKE FAILURE OF WRITING TO THE HBOOT. PLEASE REMEMBER TO FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS. MAINLY, DO NOT BLAME ME FOR ANYTHING THAT GOES WRONG.
FINALLY, YOU SHOULD BE READING EVERYTHING UP TO HERE AND THAT YOU MUST HAVE A GOLDCARD (A GOLD SD CARD)
Hope this helps you and please ask if you have further questions. PM me if the questions cannot be answered here. Good Luck
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Yes, flashing a RUU unroots the phone.
But rooting again is easy.