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Third parties keyboard does not fire up!!

I install a third party Soft Input Panel (SIP) called "The Phraze-It."
the problem is when i choose to fire up the input, it does not fire up. it remains with the idiot default keyboard.
anything i can do in the registry? i try to use SIPChange but still not working.
Please help me!!

I encountered the same problem on ppc-6700 WM5. Their support say I need to hard-reset.

Could be a problem of Black ROM... Try LVSW ROM, works here...

Could be Black or could be a memory problem. I had an issue with Calligrapher that resolved after removing the HTC Home plugin.

I tried SIPChange to set a new keyboards (HappyTappingKeyboard and TenGO Thumb), but it didn't seem to work. Eventually, I found IMselector/IMselecter (the filename was spelled one of the ways). It is somewhere on the board, I'll go look for a link for you. I used that to set the new keyboard as the default keyboard, then softreset. The new keyboard worked perfectly.

the cause of this is the custom skin of the original keyboard. there is .mui file which u will have to overwrite but i dont know exactly to get it back to original.

at10ti0n,
can you elaborate further step by step on the .mui?
Anyone,
what is the link to download the IMselector? please! i still can resolve the problem

Here's IMSelecter. Install this to Device, not Storage Card.
After you've installed your 3rd party SIP, use IMSelecter to choose that SIP as default (there should be a drop down list, and in your case, just Phraze-It). Then, tap the power button to suspend and thus keeping the change (just to be safe), and then soft reset. Your SIP should work.
(this whole process was used on WM5, try it out, if it doesn't work, PM me.)

I installed IMSelector on my HTC Touch running stock HTC WM6 ROM. It correctly sets PCM Keyboard as my default SIP. However, the SIP icon now shows virtually all the time in the lower area (between the soft keys) every time I start a new app or go to the Programs window - regardless of whether or not there is an input box on the visible page. The default device behavior is to only show the SIP icon when the visible window contains some form of input control - i.e. text box, combo box, etc. Now, I get the icon on evrery new screen.
Any ideas on how to get the default behavior back?
Thanks,
-Scott

Suggested Words and Auto Completion

Hi Guys,
I would like to know if it's possible for the Touch Pro 2 screen keyboard to support word suggestion (suggwords) and dynamic auto completion just like in the "good old" SIPs from days of TytnII. eg when i type "goo", I would like "good morning" to appear as a suggested word based on my past use.
I like the layout of the HTC stock Full Qwerty keyboard but much prefer the old system over the new xt9 system.
Any advise on whether and how the above can be achieved would be greatly appreciated!
cheers,

anyone?

I have the same issue. I would love to have the auto complete and suggested words working on my TP2

Use the Advanced Configuration Tool - works
http://www.touchxperience.com/en/advanced-configuration-tool.html

Solution
Hi all,
I had the same problem and could get rid of it via HD Tweak tool, which you can find here: HD Tweak
What I did was simply "20. Keyboard (SIP)" options, I have disabled 20.1 - Automatic display popup, enabled 20.2 T9 Mode and 20.3 Suggest Words to 4 words; and restart.
Now I get 4 recommendations easily when I am sending and sms etc. just like the old days in Kaiser; Works like a charm
I hope it helps.

zxcvbnmnbvcxz said:
Hi Guys,
I would like to know if it's possible for the Touch Pro 2 screen keyboard to support word suggestion (suggwords) and dynamic auto completion just like in the "good old" SIPs from days of TytnII. eg when i type "goo", I would like "good morning" to appear as a suggested word based on my past use.
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Diable eT9. Enable COMP IME. This is a registry edit.
Go to: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\layouts\e0010409
Edit: Ime File = \Windows\compime.dll
Layout Text = COMP IME
Go to: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9
Edit: XT9SupportMSSip= 0
That will bring you back to the good old word suggestion and dynamic auto completion.
Hope this helps.

thank you thank you thank you!
this ##"¤%#¤ was driving me nuts!
i can write again

stupid me i forgot to write down the original settings for this. Could some please look in their registry & please tell me what the default values for this are?
*edit* never mind i found them:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\et9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : eT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
*Warning*
Changing this registry to COMP IME disables your "SYM' hardware keyboard option

weenween said:
Diable eT9. Enable COMP IME. This is a registry edit.
Go to: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\layouts\e0010409
Edit: Ime File = \Windows\compime.dll
Layout Text = COMP IME
Go to: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9
Edit: XT9SupportMSSip= 0
That will bring you back to the good old word suggestion and dynamic auto completion.
Hope this helps.
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Many thanks, but only one question:
I use frequently as input method the letter recognizer in my HTC Touch HD. With your modifications in the registry, I saw a list of 4 words suggested dinamically (which changes) when introducing one or another letter.
BUT, when I introduce a word that is not in the dictionary (a technical medical word, for example) in one appointment or SMS, and I want to introduce again (in another appointment or SMS) the first two or three letters again, this word is not suggested. It seems like this word is not incorporated in the custom dictionary.
I remember this new word introduced in one appointment or a SMS, was suggested when I introduce the first letters as one of 4 of the list, in my old QTEK s200 (HTC Prophet).
Do you know if is necessary any registry modifications to obtain this feature?
Best Regards and many thanks

can some send me compime.dll?
I don't see compime.dll in the Windows folder on my Tilt2. att probably removed it.

That HD Tweak worked great. When I do the reg edit on my Tmo TP2 I lose the space bar on the software keyboard...Tj

motoq9h said:
can some send me compime.dll?
I don't see compime.dll in the Windows folder on my Tilt2. att probably removed it.
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its not, nor has ever been in my \Windows directory for my Tmo TP2, yet the registry tweak still worked. Maybe its just not viewable, even though I have it to show all files

xnifex said:
its not, nor has ever been in my \Windows directory for my Tmo TP2, yet the registry tweak still worked. Maybe its just not viewable, even though I have it to show all files
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Thanks. I just confirmed that the file is present and hidden. I tried this hack but it completely messed up the Hard keyboard on the Tilt2. Reverting back..

weenween said:
Diable eT9. Enable COMP IME. This is a registry edit.
Go to: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\layouts\e0010409
Edit: Ime File = \Windows\compime.dll
Layout Text = COMP IME
Go to: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9
Edit: XT9SupportMSSip= 0
That will bring you back to the good old word suggestion and dynamic auto completion.
Hope this helps.
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I tried the above and was able to get the auto complete (the person I want to send txt or mail too), but for this:
Go to: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9
Edit: XT9SupportMSSip= 0
XT9SupportMSSip was already set to 0. I still cant get auto suggest to work.
I tried setting WordCompletion to 1 from 0, but that did work either.
Anyone get it working? How?
***UPDATE*** Never mind, I used AdvanceConfigTool to set word suggest to 4 words. It was set to 0, so I got 0.
HAPPY NOW!

RojasTKD said:
I tried the above and was able to get the auto complete (the person I want to send txt or mail too), but for this:
Go to: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9
Edit: XT9SupportMSSip= 0
XT9SupportMSSip was already set to 0. I still cant get auto suggest to work.
I tried setting WordCompletion to 1 from 0, but that did work either.
Anyone get it working? How?
***UPDATE*** Never mind, I used AdvanceConfigTool to set word suggest to 4 words. It was set to 0, so I got 0.
HAPPY NOW!
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Which version of TP2 do u have? Tmobile? Doing this change on ATT's Tilt2 completely screwed up the HW Keyboard, and I had to reset to factory..

motoq9h said:
Which version of TP2 do u have? Tmobile? Doing this change on ATT's Tilt2 completely screwed up the HW Keyboard, and I had to reset to factory..
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I did this on my Tilt 2 and did not have any issues with my HW keyboard.
I only wish I could edit the fallowing options:
1. Number of letter before it Auto Suggest a word.
2. Set it to not automatically insert a space after I select a suggested word.
Anyone know how to do this?
Aside from that it works great.
The first time I did it, the next day it gave my a keyboard without a spacebar, it had a ".com" & "/" key instead. I did a Clear Storage and did it all again and it works fine now.
UPDATE: Well it was working until I enter my owner info and while inputting my phone number the keyboard switched to a number keypad and now it stuck there. I can't get the regular keyboard to pop back up.
This is getting frustrating!

TrekkerJmm said:
That HD Tweak worked great. When I do the reg edit on my Tmo TP2 I lose the space bar on the software keyboard...Tj
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OK after a few days with HD Tw for some reason on my T-mo TP2 the software keyboard goes to a number only keyboard with the letters P & W so I have to put it back the original way and restart the phone then go back into HD Tw and redo the settings again anyone else have this problem? ...Tj

Best I can tell when the reg is edited to replace eT9 with the original Auto suggest & Auto Complete once the number keyboard come up, it wont go away.
this is a real bummer, I like the nice Touch input keyboard BUT I much prefer the original Auto suggest & Auto Complete. SO far I can't find a way to keep both.

RojasTKD said:
Best I can tell when the reg is edited to replace eT9 with the original Auto suggest & Auto Complete once the number keyboard come up, it wont go away.
this is a real bummer, I like the nice Touch input keyboard BUT I much prefer the original Auto suggest & Auto Complete. SO far I can't find a way to keep both.
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EXACTLY my problem... I found out that is wont switch unless I need to select a number on my calender otherwise it lasts a couple days. I wonder if this will do this with all Rom's or just T-Mo...Tj

TrekkerJmm said:
EXACTLY my problem... I found out that is wont switch unless I need to select a number on my calender otherwise it lasts a couple days. I wonder if this will do this with all Rom's or just T-Mo...Tj
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I have a Tilt 2 and running AT&T's stock ROM. For now I'm sticking with the eT9 as to keep an actual usable SW keyboard. Hope there a solution soon.

Word auto complete not working

Hey everyone,
I cant seem to work out how to get auto complete to work when using the hardware keyboard.
It worked on my TYTN II and i really liked the feature as i am entering service log numbers and i dont have to look at my book each time to see what the next number is.
Any ideas how to get this going>
I have set in advanced config for word suggestion to 4 (it was on 0) and in input options > options > xt9 settings > i ticked word completion in abc mode (for phone keypad only) and its not coming up.
I have soft reset the phone as well.
Have tried searching but havnt found much.
Cheers

dude u have to search for enabling old type completion.. I did it...and it works... before that I had the same problem - here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4049651#post4049651

Thanks for that!
Found it, and now im happy
Here is the fix incase anyone else wanted this.
beemerTPPC said:
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
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Great ! works like a charm.

Cool.... been looking for this.

Shadoxity said:
Thanks for that!
Found it, and now im happy
Here is the fix incase anyone else wanted this.
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This is my first post, so please forgive me if the answer has already been provided somewhere else.
I have a TP2 purchased in Hong Kong that has the Chinese Fonts built into the ROM. The ROM version is 1.19.721.1 (51489) WWE.
I have checked in the registry and there is no HKLM\Software\Tegic entry.
The other keys are
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : COMP IME
Word completion using the onscreen keyboard and/or hardware keyboard does not work.
There is no normal keyboard available for selection, only the Touch Input
Could anyone advise how to fix this?
Thanks in advance, Gary

this should do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534126- for the pdac hebrew

Just wondering if anyone has faced the qwerty keyboard changed to a funny number key pad that has only 2 alphabet p and w in it? I am wondering if it is because of this tweak that is causing it. It will change without new software installation after a few days of usage. It has happened to me in 3-4 occasions already.
Only way to overcome it is for me to restore to previous backup. After a few days, same thing would happen and again I have to restore. So frustrating!

st8800 said:
Just wondering if anyone has faced the qwerty keyboard changed to a funny number key pad that has only 2 alphabet p and w in it? I am wondering if it is because of this tweak that is causing it. It will change without new software installation after a few days of usage. It has happened to me in 3-4 occasions already.
Only way to overcome it is for me to restore to previous backup. After a few days, same thing would happen and again I have to restore. So frustrating!
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Yea it happens to me to!
Changing the reg keys back fixes it but then i loose auto complete... stupid bloody HTC, why couldnt they just make it all work!!!
I seem to get the proper keyboard in my text messages though, and everywhere else the numbers :S

Hmm.... seems that this tweak is causing the keyboard problem then?
I really dont want to lose the auto-complete feature.

i wish one of the smarter members of the community could work it out!

Same problem here! And it's very frustrating to be trying to type words and have numbers appear... please help! I did the registry edit and am having number appear when I press letters on the keyboard......

chocovash said:
Same problem here! And it's very frustrating to be trying to type words and have numbers appear... please help! I did the registry edit and am having number appear when I press letters on the keyboard......
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Normally, all you have to do to enable the word completion on the hardware keyboard is to pop up the SIP keyboard and tick the box at the left of the keyboard from "ABC" to "XT9," then simply slide out the hardware keyboard. It works for me every time.

Touch Input problem

occasionally the built in keyboard shows me a different than expected keyboard. For example, durring txt messages, it would show the phone keypad "with the 1-9, P, w keys" or it would show the internet one "with .com button". I tryed looking through the registry for it, but its a mess tryn to find the key that was changed. i have the touch input v2.0 (build 35555) on the AT&T rom.
If anyone else has had this problem and knows how to solve it, the help would be amazing.
p.s. on my previous phone, I had the VITO Zoomboard, but i like the way this new keyboard is in how it changes..but not when it changes to something that isn't appropriate for the given event

Did you install the classic word completion or word correction cab? If so,
GoodThings2Life said:
When enabling Classic Word Correction, Opera users may experience an issue in which the soft keyboard gets stuck in web or numeric mode. To avoid/correct this, click on the web page instead of the address bar before exiting Opera.
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I installed the disable xt9 file which changes registry values?
Just now I used the resco registry explorer to extract my reg files and found which keys changed:
=== normal keyboard ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000000
=== web keyboard ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000006
=== numeric keypad ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000006
now I gata find a program which will make an exe or lnk to change that value of the reg

I have the exact same issue. The phone seems to get stuck on the number keypad with the W and P and will not go back to the full qwerty.
Soft resets do nothing to reset keyboard. I did the following edits to get word suggestion:
Go to: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\layouts\e001 0409
Edit: Ime File = \Windows\compime.dll
Layout Text = COMP IME
Go to: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9
Edit: XT9SupportMSSip= 0
Otherwise I have done no registry edits except removing proxy info for Opera to get it to work on Rogers.
This is most annoying so any suggestions or help would be appreciated.
I have tried using opera page before exiting but it still comes up as a number pad.

Applies to any HTC Touch Input 2.0 keyboard
baudac said:
Did you install the classic word completion or word correction cab? If so,
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Thanks for this ... you really helped me save a lot of time!

I find that it will also flip to this input style when trying to add a contact. Once it does this I then have to go and start opera, touch the address bar and the input changes back to qwerty. Then I can exit opera. Its kind of a pain but at least I know of the work around.

thanks for the opera info - I did not install any completion cab, but this did fix my keyboard issue.

I just got this problem today. I have yet to be able to change it back.
I can tell you that this occurred in the Windows Edit Contacts menu (that is to say, go to HTC's "Edit Contacts" and select "More").
At first it gave me a simple numbers and arrow keys only keypad. I soft reset and it changed nothing. I then decided to retrace my steps to try to fix it, so I went back to the edit contacts screen and fiddled around, very shortly it switched to the keyboard as described by the OP. Numeric keys, parenthesis, a 'P' and a 'W', etc... stuff used in phone numbers, I suppose. I haven't been able to get it back to a full keyboard, yet. I've messed around with the keyboard options, switched to and back from other keyboard choices and got nothing.
Anyone else want to investigate this further with us?

xperia
zyphuris55 said:
I installed the disable xt9 file which changes registry values?
Just now I used the resco registry explorer to extract my reg files and found which keys changed:
=== normal keyboard ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000000
=== web keyboard ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000006
=== numeric keypad ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000006
now I gata find a program which will make an exe or lnk to change that value of the reg
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This worked for me.. The opera trick did not

SlyMaelstrom said:
I just got this problem today. I have yet to be able to change it back.
I can tell you that this occurred in the Windows Edit Contacts menu (that is to say, go to HTC's "Edit Contacts" and select "More").
At first it gave me a simple numbers and arrow keys only keypad. I soft reset and it changed nothing. I then decided to retrace my steps to try to fix it, so I went back to the edit contacts screen and fiddled around, very shortly it switched to the keyboard as described by the OP. Numeric keys, parenthesis, a 'P' and a 'W', etc... stuff used in phone numbers, I suppose. I haven't been able to get it back to a full keyboard, yet. I've messed around with the keyboard options, switched to and back from other keyboard choices and got nothing.Anyone else want to investigate this further with us?
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Same problem for me, so I did the Opera method.
It definitely originated (for me) in "edit contacts".
I used the stock Opera (9?). I did try to just tap the google search bar with no luck.
Just click on the address bar after you start the browser and it will allow you to switch.
*Non-registry changin' noob method*

[Q] Turn off Soft Keyboard popup

I have a Tilt 2 running the NEW ROM.
I want to disable the automatic pop-up of the soft keyboard, so that I get to decide when I want to use it.
Is there a way to turn this feature off?
I have seen references to making changes to the registry, I assume there is a switch in there somewhere, but how does one access the registry? Is there a hidden program somewhere I could start or do I have to download it?
Thanks,
Richard..

You need to download a registry editor. There are various choices out there. I use Total Commander:
http://www.ghisler.com/pocketpc.htm
The reg edit that I have seen for preventing the soft keyboard from popping up, helps a little. But it doesn't prevent it in all situations.

As Redpoint mentioned, Total Commander is the preferred file explorer for most of us. Task Manager 3.1 is what I use for mobile registry editing. I do try to avoid doing any editing on my device, though. I rather edit on the PC side with the larger screen and less room for errors. For editing the device's registry from the PC, I use CEReg Editor 0.0.5.3.
For disabling the keyboard, you could try an app that I used to use on WM5 with my old Sable. It says it works with WM6, so give it a shot and see if you like it. It's called Nullkeyboard. All it does is add a blank SIP to your device. Select Nullkb from the SIP input button and you're good to go. Here is the link to the download.

I used Advanced Config. It gives you a nice way to select options and features and then change your registry for you. It is AWESOME for a tweaker. I'm using version 3.3.0.0 and it works great on my Tilt2 original OEM ROM.
Using this app, Under the Input category, change "Auto deply SIP" to disabled.

Okay, I downloaded the nullkeyboard and tried, it but it had no apparent effect.
I also downloaded the Task Manager 3.3 (latest version) and it works. I did a search for "keypad", but none of them appear to relate to controlling the pop-up feature.
Does anyone know what registry entry controls the soft keypad pop-up feature?
Thank you,
Richard..

rbillingsley said:
Okay, I downloaded the nullkeyboard and tried, it but it had no apparent effect.
I also downloaded the Task Manager 3.3 (latest version) and it works. I did a search for "keypad", but none of them appear to relate to controlling the pop-up feature.
Does anyone know what registry entry controls the soft keypad pop-up feature?
Thank you,
Richard..
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Did you select the nullkeyboard from the SIP selection window that pops up when you press the right side of the soft keyboard icon?
You should NOT be searching around the registry for things to change without knowing what they are. Doing so can possibly screw up your phone and require a hard reset. You should only apply registry changes you see posted on here, and change them exactly as indicated.
The reg edit to prevent SIP for opening:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip
"TurnOffAutoDeploy" value="1"

NullKeyboard - Oh, is that how it works? Thank you for telling me. It does the job, except for the times I would like to use the keyboard for quik edits, I have to change it back to the regular keyboard first.
REGEDIT - I found the registry key: HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip
but there were no values in it for: TurnOffAutoDeploy
I added the value: "TurnOffAutoDeploy" value="1" (no quotes) with the type REG_SZ and then rebooted the phone. I also changed NullKeyboard back to regular.
This had no effect on the Auto Deploy of the keyboard.
I was hoping the RegEdit would work. The keyboard would be there, but would not pop-up until I wanted it.
If I did something wrong, or you have any other suggestions, please let me know.
Thank you,
Richard..

I think the reg type should have been a DWORD value of 1.

Great! That did it. The keypad stays out of the way and is there if I want it.
Thank you,

Thank you, thank you, thank you, cajunflavoredbob
I have one app in which the pop-up keyboard on my T-Mobile HTC HD2 drives me nuts, and several others in which I could do without it. You gave me the answer that I couldn't find in any of the other threads, and I really appreciate it.
If anyone is watching, this is another tweak that should go in a gathering of such things!!

I doesn't work with me
please any one help me my application contains a lot of edit boxes when i focus on them the keyboard pops up i want the keyboard to pops up when i click on it only i tried all the solutions please any one list the steps