I'll get straight to the point....
Despite stickys and forum announcements most of us are still finding ourselves becoming terribly, terribly vexed at the amount of [Q]'s cluttering the dev section...
Therefore, from now on, if you do not follow the rules outlined below, you will be infracted. Break them again and you may find yourself unable to post anything at all on any forum!!
[Q]Surely thats a bit harsh aint it??
[A]Not really....
We've tried to be nice about it but that clearly doesnt work.
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If you cannot read and abide by the simple rules in this sticky then I dont know how you're going to manage to hack your device without running into trouble.
The Dev section is NOT for asking questions.....
The Dev section is NOT for general topics..........
All threads posted MUST be prefixed with a description of the thread, [ROM] / [Kernel] etc etc.....*
*(Not planning on being particuarly strict on this. You guys (the devs), know how to title a thread.... just a pointer for new devs.)
Basically, unless your thread is to actually release something or discuss something of a very technical and n00b unfriendly nature, it doesnt belong here!
Pretty simple really.....
If you see something that shouldnt be here then PM me....
I will try to check in as reguarly as I can but I have a few sections to keep an eye on and believe it or not, a life outside XDA
Yes thats right, there is life outside XDA
Post What Where:
General - general technical discussion items, news, anything else that does not fit into the other fora categories.
Accessories - any items to do with components and/or accessories relating to your device.
Rom Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Themes & Apps - anything to do directly with the development of themes and/or applications. Nothing else goes in here.
MOD EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
Hopefully this brings some change to the forum, this site is a great place to learn and develop for everyone no matter what stage of the game your in. There are quite a few people here that really put forth the effort to help others no matter how fundamental the question is and it would be a shame to see XDA take a turn like other forums have in the past.
To: conantroutman
You are my Freakin Hero, Thank You!!! LOL
The annoying thing is, people are STILL not following the rules -_-
GazaIan said:
The annoying thing is, people are STILL not following the rules -_-
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They probably never will but at least now they are being punished so that they either learn from their mistakes or leave...
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
I understand where you are coming from but...yes a bit harsh, so many people come he now and then etc, Just my thoughts. I will post what I deem necessary in what I think the proper thread is. Obviously not going to ask how to flash rom, (which is in developers section) Maybe you should move those topics out to faq or general, it only draws more attention to the dev. section
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conantroutman said:
They probably never will but at least now they are being punished so that they either learn from their mistakes or leave...
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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This will only drive people away, ban me and I surely will look for another forum and recomend it to my friends, thats the mentallity, because what you have on these forums is also on 3 others, please dont tick off ppl. I personally dont think this is the right approach. Educate people first. I have been admin for several forums, very hostile ones at that, please take some advice.
Hi to all
This is just to remind you this is for development only.
Please do not start Question or request threads. These threads go in the general section. I will usually close these threads if posted here.
Do not ask for ETAs on Roms, it just clutters up the thread and annoys the developer.
Anything i condone as spam will be instantly deleted.
Please do not post thank you. That is what the thanks button is for.
If anybody feels a post should be a sticky, please PM me with the reasoning.
Please report any posts that are out of place, or contain questionable content. They will be dealt with quickly!
So basically please only post ROM Development, Hacks, Mods, Fixes and Tutorials in this section.
Thank you for your attention, if you have any further questions. Please feel free to PM me
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Hello everyone
Welcome to the G2 and desire Z forum, today myself and cooleagle have been assigned as your new forum moderators, so let’s get started with some points.
1. If you don’t know the forum rules yet then please go and read them HERE
2. Please search before posting any questions and only post questions in the Q&A forum, also any new members to XDA Developers please read this guide HERE.
3. If there is a problem within the forum then please don’t take it upon yourself to comment, please use the report button (Report button Guide HERE), or send myself or cooleagle a PM.
If you have any requests then please drop us a PM
s.d.oconnor
cooleagle
I will make my promise now to treat everyone fairly and treat everyone how I would like to be treated, so I expect everyone else to act in the same manner. This includes flaming other members, if someone has made a mistake by opening a thread in the wrong section, then like I have said in point 3, use the report button.
Thank You
Hello everyone
Welcome to the G2 and desire Z forum, today myself and cooleagle have been assigned as your new forum moderators, so let’s get started with some points.
1. If you don’t know the forum rules yet then please go and read them HERE
2. Please search before posting any questions and only post questions in the Q&A forum, also any new members to XDA Developers please read this guide HERE.
3. If there is a problem within the forum then please don’t take it upon yourself to comment, please use the report button (Report button Guide HERE), or send myself or cooleagle a PM.
If you have any requests then please drop us a PM
s.d.oconnor
cooleagle
I will make my promise now to treat everyone fairly and treat everyone how I would like to be treated, so I expect everyone else to act in the same manner. This includes flaming other members, if someone has made a mistake by opening a thread in the wrong section, then like I have said in point 3, use the report button.
Thank You
i really love xda, already i am new member and hate the 10 posts rule can anyone give me some tips how to get that to go faster?
Stop spamming.
TayyabKhalid97 said:
i really love xda, already i am new member and hate the 10 posts rule can anyone give me some tips how to get that to go faster?
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all you need to do is post in threads where you could participate on topic.. if you can help in q & a section.. that would be appreciated and you would pick some thanks for your help along the way too
Start from reading below link
you should have a look at this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1949604
And please don't create threads unnecessarily.. you will find some thread as this if you search where you could have posted instead of making a thread
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