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Anybody can help me???
i`ve tried to install a cab Touch Flo on my hermes (Dopod 838Pro),but i`m confused...why it can`t work on hermes....anybody try before?
Sorry for my english
wow, shocking news.
how about search for the words "Touch flo doesn't work on Hermes"
August_Excalibur said:
Anybody can help me???
i`ve tried to install a cab Touch Flo on my hermes (Dopod 838Pro),but i`m confused...why it can`t work on hermes....anybody try before?
Sorry for my english
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Ok..*controlling myself* *wont flame you*
Welcome..
There are many threads similar like yours..
Try to use search..
and to get to your question, Why? because it just dont work.. It seems like hermes doesnt support TouchFlo but it supports ButtonFlo (if you ask me, buttonflo sucks!)
next time, use search
hehehe...have u try before???i`ve just do a hardreset since it doesn`t work.... sorry for my english...i know my english bad...ok...next time i`ll try to use search....thanks for ur suggestions...Bram87
Of course hermes can do the whole touchflow thing. We have a good touch screen that can record touch's, swipes drags etc.
The current problem is that the "touch" part of the current incarnation is made for a computer with a different type of screen. so just copying the files over doesnt work. it's like tyring to run a ATI tech demo on a Nvidea card. just cos both systems have XP, and have similar capable hardware, the calls from the software to the hardware are differnt.
However what I am really confused about is why anyone wants this nonsense on there ppc. Its basically a animated gif spawning over 3 screens. Its a shoddy gimik which has no true tie in to the workings of your ppc's apps.
Currenty problems regarding slowdowns system crashes etc is purly down to poor coding for this 1/2 baked interface.
Ribdool said:
However what I am really confused about is why anyone wants this nonsense on there ppc. Its basically a animated gif spawning over 3 screens. Its a shoddy gimik which has no true tie in to the workings of your ppc's apps.
Currenty problems regarding slowdowns system crashes etc is purly down to poor coding for this 1/2 baked interface.
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Cos it's kinda like the iphone, innit!
August_Excalibur said:
Anybody can help me???
i`ve tried to install a cab Touch Flo on my hermes (Dopod 838Pro),but i`m confused...why it can`t work on hermes....anybody try before?
Sorry for my english
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I like this site more of late. With so many new people, it's good for at least a laugh or 2 per day
Ribdool said:
Of course hermes can do the whole touchflow thing. We have a good touch screen that can record touch's, swipes drags etc.
The current problem is that the "touch" part of the current incarnation is made for a computer with a different type of screen. so just copying the files over doesnt work. it's like tyring to run a ATI tech demo on a Nvidea card. just cos both systems have XP, and have similar capable hardware, the calls from the software to the hardware are differnt.
However what I am really confused about is why anyone wants this nonsense on there ppc. Its basically a animated gif spawning over 3 screens. Its a shoddy gimik which has no true tie in to the workings of your ppc's apps.
Currenty problems regarding slowdowns system crashes etc is purly down to poor coding for this 1/2 baked interface.
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The part that is nice is making the UI more finger-friendly as opposed to stylus-req'd. E.g. I most like the ability to scroll thru my contacts without having to hit the scroll bar on the right. being able to "drag" the screen is what I want.
Thus, I don't care about the TouchFLO as much as I do projects like the ContactManager prog that someone developed. I want the programs (browser, contact mgr, music playlists, etc.) to be done via finger dragging, than stylus-to-scrollbar...
Originally Posted by Ribdool
However what I am really confused about is why anyone wants this nonsense on there ppc. Its basically a animated gif spawning over 3 screens. Its a shoddy gimik which has no true tie in to the workings of your ppc's apps.
Currenty problems regarding slowdowns system crashes etc is purly down to poor coding for this 1/2 baked interface.
Cos it's kinda like the iphone, innit!
hahaha....that`s what i mean...
i like touch flo coz it`s the iphone...
uhhhh....anybody can make it work on hermes?
please....
jomo25 said:
The part that is nice is making the UI more finger-friendly as opposed to stylus-req'd. E.g. I most like the ability to scroll thru my contacts without having to hit the scroll bar on the right. being able to "drag" the screen is what I want.
Thus, I don't care about the TouchFLO as much as I do projects like the ContactManager prog that someone developed. I want the programs (browser, contact mgr, music playlists, etc.) to be done via finger dragging, than stylus-to-scrollbar...
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Which is the reason why the HTC Homeplug is so useful.
August_Excalibur said:
Anybody can help me???
i`ve tried to install a cab Touch Flo on my hermes (Dopod 838Pro),but i`m confused...why it can`t work on hermes....anybody try before?
Sorry for my english
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it works on the hermes you just gotta let your phone get enough sleep first cause its a tiring process
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Which is the reason why the HTC Homeplug is so useful.
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And I have that working, in color, no less. I'm wating for the 6th button so I can drop the audio manager today plug in and have it in the same HTC Home space.
Seriously has anyone here used a iphone.. this htc touch is nothing similar.
I can understand the desire to use the ppc without a stylus, however this does not allow it. It's not even a pretty front end.. jerky 8 frame black and white fixed animation which isnt adaptive to personal modifications, which currently runs like crap on a 400mhz system.. c'mon..
The nicest feature of the iphone is the media side. "touch flow" which the htc touch doesnt even attempt to do.
incase you havent seen the htc touch in action.. this is it... Amazing.. sigh..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9SEarIN7HM&mode=related&search=
As soon as you decide which of the 3 limited screens you desire back to the regualr wm5/6 screens.
If the htc touch included a special touch media player that scrolled through your images, music, videos, contacts, emails, sms's, games, had a decent dialer/text/email interface..etc.. maybe it would be comparable to the iphone.. not neciserially in design, just function.
Dont get me wrong I love my hermes. It's versatility is what makes it great, I wouldnt trade it for a iphone.. well maybe I would.. just to sell it and get another ppc & holiday.
Now we have good stable operating system, sure a few tweaks here and there are needed, that shall allways be the case.. we should all poll idea's to design a great interface, and not waste time over a useless 3 screen cross device hack that doesnt really work properly.
Its not a easy task, but there are a fair few creative and bright sparks in the xda devs community. Starting a fresh is the way togo.
A nice quick introduction to the differences between the interfaces.. plus funkeh music.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk3wGFuQjC4&mode=related&search=
jomo25 said:
The part that is nice is making the UI more finger-friendly as opposed to stylus-req'd. E.g. I most like the ability to scroll thru my contacts without having to hit the scroll bar on the right. being able to "drag" the screen is what I want.
Thus, I don't care about the TouchFLO as much as I do projects like the ContactManager prog that someone developed. I want the programs (browser, contact mgr, music playlists, etc.) to be done via finger dragging, than stylus-to-scrollbar...
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Everything you suggest can be achieved with buttons and scroll wheel - no stylus req'd.
Home plugin is a performance killer and unreliable.
KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid!
esseff said:
Everything you suggest can be achieved with buttons and scroll wheel - no stylus req'd.
Home plugin is a performance killer and unreliable.
KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid!
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*sigh* to each his/her own. using buttons and scroll wheel "get the job done" but note the same for me.
Stuck on splashscreen after Touchflo install
Hi experts,
I'm currently running WM6 Black Satin since a few days and I'm allready addicted to playing with all kind of stuff. I came across Touchflo and installed it. When I did a softreset, I couldn't get my Hermes device past the splashscreen. I removed my storage card and and did another reset: same result, stuck on splashscreen. I'm not really interested in getting Touchflo to work on my device, I was just curious. But now I just want to get my device working again. So what do I do? Any advice is welcome
Now we have good stable operating system, sure a few tweaks here and there are needed, that shall allways be the case.. we should all poll idea's to design a great interface, and not waste time over a useless 3 screen cross device hack that doesnt really work properly.
Its not a easy task, but there are a fair few creative and bright sparks in the xda devs community. Starting a fresh is the way togo.
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http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11402
This is a good idea for start, found over on Lakeridgesoftware's wrbsite (the people who make Wisbar)....
wisbar is the untimate interface modding tool for the pocketpc but this 'itask' shows the potential for a new xda-developers interface to be developed incorporating all the best ideas we have.....
My lad has a sony ericson K750i and he has a built in app that means he can connect to the home PC and use the phone as a remote for a number of PC based apps such as media player, the desk top etc..
Has any one seen anything like this for the Orbit?
Under Windows Mobile 6 you can use Remote Desktop Service to Remote Control your PC, with Windows Mobile 5 it is Terminal Services i think. Other software, for example Remote Amp, lets you Remote Control Mediaplayers like iTunes or Winamp, so Yes, there is Software like that, and i dare to say, that these programs are much more powerful than the Sony Ericson thing is
I use tightvnc on my desktop computer and pocket vnc viewer on my pda. You simply need to install tightvnc on your computer, set up a password and set up my firewall to let me get in.
I use another tool to use wake on lan, with this I can even turn on my computer (need to be enabled in bios) when I'm in range and then access it. There are a few versions out there, check out the big freeware pages, you will find it. It's like you are using your computer yourself, everything can be controlled.
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Under Windows Mobile 6 you can use Remote Desktop Service to Remote Control your PC,
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Just done a bit of digging on this and found it is in the WM6 Pro version but not in the standard version. Does anyone know if this can be retro installed on a standard version ?
Many thanks........
I installed it on my device, I didn't try to get a connection but the application starts up. I still prefer other clients, that's why I didn't try to establish a connection. I found the cab somewhere in another forum, I think it was Wizard or Hermes forum in one of those "kitchen"-threads.
BT Remote on k750i uses Bluetooth HID Profile and acts as virtual keyboard. It has nothing to do with Remote Desktop and is much less battery expensive than it.
drkbg said:
BT Remote on k750i uses Bluetooth HID Profile and acts as virtual keyboard. It has nothing to do with Remote Desktop and is much less battery expensive than it.
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Yes I was looking for something really simple like a touch screen, play, rewind, fast forward etc etc for media player.....
I'm just being cheap really I do not want to spend money on a PC remote control!!!!
There is an application that does it very well!!
nicko666 said:
My lad has a sony ericson K750i and he has a built in app that means he can connect to the home PC and use the phone as a remote for a number of PC based apps such as media player, the desk top etc..
Has any one seen anything like this for the Orbit?
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There`s an application called "NET SUPPORT CONTROL" that makes magic.You can command everything of your pc from your phone or rather control your phone from your pc.
Salling Clicker ?
But Netsupport is something similar to VNC, but more options and it isn't free. imo Netsupport is a nice tool for a company that needs
remote controlling all the devices. we also use it in our company to support our clients.
I think he's searching something like Salling Clicker ?
Dunno this tool, it isn't free...but sounds like something you're searching for...
oh yeah, a free alternative would be nice
Cheers
So I was looking for something like this...
till now three solutions.
http://www.jaylee.org/remotecontrol/
free, over Bluetooth,
buggy but touchpad function works well.
http://www.sidesk.org/
free, over WiFi,
less buggy. no touchpad but lots of easy customized shortcuts possible.
http://www.aacompserv.com/AACompWeb/Modules/PPCTablet/WhatIsIt.aspx
paid, over WiFi
some bugs, easy to use. easy customized shortcuts + touchpad function. has also kind of VNC function
drkbg said:
So I was looking for something like this...
till now three solutions.
http://www.jaylee.org/remotecontrol/
free, over Bluetooth,
buggy but touchpad function works well.
http://www.sidesk.org/
free, over WiFi,
less buggy. no touchpad but lots of easy customized shortcuts possible.
http://www.aacompserv.com/AACompWeb/Modules/PPCTablet/WhatIsIt.aspx
paid, over WiFi
some bugs, easy to use. easy customized shortcuts + touchpad function. has also kind of VNC function
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Nice one - looks [promising I will give each a go and let you know how I got on - Many thanks friend
Hi guys,
i just want to discuss an idea I just had.
Im using my PPC mostly at the university. And since some time i was searching for an Input device I could write with and have the written stuff in a digital form when Im finished (e.g as a pdf File). This would not just minimize my paper consumption it would have some other benefits too (easy sharing etc.). Now, all the devices i`ve found use the mini USB Plug of an PPC. Since the Artemis is not capable acting as a USB Host these solutions do not work. I added a picture of such a device for better illustration.
Now the idea:
Yesterday a hack has been presented on www.hackaday.com (the direct link is below) to use a WiiMote (is a Bluetooth Device) as an Input device for an electronic Chalk-Board. Now this is an very impressive hack indeed. But could it be possible to use this particular hack in a small version for PPC`s to let the WiiMote work together with the Artemis (or any other Bluetooth equiped PPC) as an "electronic Paper" device. Just for your imagination:
- connect wiimote to Artemis then use an SMD IR Equiped Stylus to write on a paper
Im no good in coding so this is off for me... But maybe soemone could give a statement on if this can be done. I mean the software for Desktop Pcs does exist (follow the links on hakaday.com) they have "just" to be rewritten for WM6 PPCs.
Link to www.hackaday.com:
http://www.hackaday.com/2007/12/09/wiimote-projector-whiteboard/
Sorry for my bad english i hope you guys understand what I was trying to explain. Here is the picture of an conventional "electronic paper" system (found on www.pearl.de)
Regards
Jabami
I bought a Wiimote this week and a LED-array to do exactly that but for a desktop computer instead of a ppc. I've done some research on that topic and found no solution yet. Seems as if nobody is interested enough that has the knowledge and skills for porting or recompiling it for ppc.
Of course it's not really a cheap solution but you could buy a tablet pc. I bought one for my studies and I can write down my stuff and share it later on my website in "hand-written" format as mhtml, pdf or whatever. I got a Compaq TC1000, this model and the TC1100 are the only I'm aware of that can be used as slate and convertible tablet pcs at the same time. I installed my bluetooth stick on the TC1000 and it was too slow for the wiimote, or maybe the bluetooth stick, but I doubt that.
There are some reasons why I wouldn't use the wiimote for writing at university:
-As soon as the wiimote moves you have to calibrate again
-You need a good spot for it so it can see you hand all the time
-Probably needs 800 "Pentium" Mhz or more to work perfectly
In the videos I saw at johnnylee.net the wiimote was mounted over the guy that wrote on his e-paper. If you are not sitting in the middle of a room with hundreds of students then this might be a solution.
All the things you said are true, plus theres is one thing lee mentiones at the end of his YouTube Video. Its about the resolution you get. So all in all the conclusion is:
using the WiiMote as an electronic paper device will not work due to resolution restrictions.
Well but maybe there is some other way to tweak an Input device into the Bluetooth Interface of the Artemis....
Best regards
Jabami
Hi Guys!
A friend of mine has a Nokia cellphone that is connected trough bleutooth with his laptop. When he wants to sent a SMS, he simply uses the software on his laptop to quickly sent these messages. Also when he has an incoming call, a small pop-up windows appears at the bottem of his laptopscreen with the caller ID.
Is there a software that can do this for the HD?
Thnx!
I use mymobiler application...
Do a search with google
Or you can use
> EveryWAN Remote Support Personal Edition
vinumsv said:
Or you can use
> EveryWAN Remote Support Personal Edition
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Thanks for the suggestion, pretty cool software, like a free premium version of MyMobiler, with remote task manager, remote registry editor, video recording screen actions, etc - HD-compatible, in English or French language versions.
http://dontknowme.at/http://www.spa...spedl3.php?revision=16491&id=akmc766&direct=1
But I think the threadstarter, quoting Nokia Comms Suite, is more interested in software with very similar features, and at that MDesktop excels. The other two allow you to send and receive SMS in a UI similar to Outlook Express resp. from inside Outlook 2007.
http://www.motionapps.com/product/mdesktop/
http://www.efficasoft.com/mobileexpress/index.html (free)
http://www.jeyo.com/extender.asp
I came across TrueConnect from Raspberry Soft...
bot not sure about the name of the prog cos i didn't use it for long...
this basicly allows you to control your HD from desktop with your mouse and keyboard when you move your mouse to the edge of the screen - then the cursor appears on your device and you are good to go it is funny, you can customize which edge to cross to get to device (top, left, right)...
As far as I remember, you can even switch the program to display your HD's screen on your laptop's screen and control it from there.
So I guess it is cool - BTW google it...you should find it real quick.
Hope this helps.
PS: I am not sure about connectivity...I used USB2PC connection and don't whether there is another option...
SOTI Pocket Controller PRO is my favourite
very easy to use and even have suitable skin for you to choose
Thnx for all the fast responses! I'm going to check al your suggestions!
Check this programm from Swiss:
https://www.mobilehelp.ch/default.aspx?REF=ppcchns
Full control of your Win Mo PPC. It's not for free but I think it's really cool and helpfull.
Hi Folks,
I have wondering how to implement some kind of mousing on the TP2 since obviously it does lend itself to mini mini laptop activities. I did find a company called http://www.teksoftco.com which does a driver for bluetooth mice as well as USB optical mice.
Would it be wonderful if there was one of those spongy knobs in the middle of the keyboard for cursor manipulation like on those old IBM laptops.
Any comments, particularly the first bit.
Thanks,
Sam
Why would I want to install a mouse to the TP2? It's big enough already and having to drag around a mouse all the time where using the stylus is so much faster and easier? I don't really see the benefits of it....
I used to have a little BT mouse with my good old htc universal... great! simply great!! it would be nice to use it again with the TP2, but it's almost impossible to find the driver to download..and btw, would it work with wvga screens, or just regular qvga /vga ones??
@ kork: so little it's easy to lose it without noticing. a bunch of grams more, when I carry at work a bag of 3 4 kg is nothing noticeable
Hi cyberpunk,
I have jext got this from the tecksoftco site:
Name: BlueInput Driver for Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard
Version: 1.5.RC-4
Release date: November 5, 2008
Supported Platform: Pocket PC with Microsoft Bluetooth Stack / WM5.0 or newer / BT Mouse+Keyboard compatible
Supported Screen Size: SQUARE, SQUARE VGA, QVGA, VGA, WQVGA, WVGA (all)
So it looks positive... I will asks thought. Being from the UK I did a double take on "BT Mouse" thinking that it was sold by British Telecom(BT) but it is for "Bluetooth" - doh....
Sam
double post.... due to system hang
Kork said:
Why would I want to install a mouse to the TP2? It's big enough already and having to drag around a mouse all the time where using the stylus is so much faster and easier? I don't really see the benefits of it....
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If you had a wireless mouse and were using the TP2 for video-out presentation or video viewing duties, it could make life easier. Seems like a pretty niche need though.
There are apparently drivers that let you use the phone as a USB host rather than client, allowing you to hook up mice, keyboards and even external HDs. I'm not sure if anyone has had any success, there's mention of it in the tricks sticky post in this forum.
yep, but someone reported them as not working. not so much discussion about this though too bad, blame on ppc manufacturers who don't consider this function! it's so important when on the move!
@samjolly: thanks a lot mate! do you know if this driver works on TP2, and mostly important with an old "thinkoutside bluetooth travel mouse"? it used to have its own drivers shipped...but it's been 3 or 4 years since i purchased it! tried on omnia and didn't work, argh °_°
PS: I'm a bit scared of trying for first delicate things like drivers without having heard any positive feedback first
forgive me guys, but xda is slooooooooooow and keeps sending 2 copies of every message I post. must be something wrong with it.
SamJolly said:
Hi cyberpunk,
I have jext got this from the tecksoftco site:
Name: BlueInput Driver for Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard
Version: 1.5.RC-4
Release date: November 5, 2008
Supported Platform: Pocket PC with Microsoft Bluetooth Stack / WM5.0 or newer / BT Mouse+Keyboard compatible
Supported Screen Size: SQUARE, SQUARE VGA, QVGA, VGA, WQVGA, WVGA (all)
So it looks positive... I will asks thought. Being from the UK I did a double take on "BT Mouse" thinking that it was sold by British Telecom(BT) but it is for "Bluetooth" - doh....
Sam
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A note of caution; the TP2 doesn't use the Microsoft stack, unlike many other current HTC devices, that's why there are problems with some devices. I'm not saying it won't work but......
Gordon
GordonTGopher said:
A note of caution; the TP2 doesn't use the Microsoft stack, unlike many other current HTC devices, that's why there are problems with some devices. I'm not saying it won't work but......
Gordon
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Folks,
This was my response from TeckSoftCo:
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BlueInput is compatible with devices running Windows Mobile (minimum WM5.0) and that have the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack installed.
You can download a trial versin of BlueInput for free, from www.teksoftco.com and see if it runs well.
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So interesting point about TP2 apparently not using the MS BT stack which seems a bit weird.
Sam
thanks a lot to both samjolly and gordon for the useful info! I hope we'll be able to solve this mistery
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thanks a lot to both samjolly and gordon for the useful info! I hope we'll be able to solve this mistery
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dead thread, i see, but to answer last post, both the bluetooth and usb possibilities are there now on the teksoft site. looks like 10 euro for the usb hid driver, 15 for the broadcom bluetooth driver.