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At what bitrate would you/do you encode your movies? I'm calculating my size requirements and whether only 32GB would be enough or not. I'm thinking 720p at 900kbps/1mbps max. So far here's how I've broken down my size usage too :
Music - 0B, considering that I always stream it I don't have any music on any of my devices
Apps - 5GB, mostly those big games like Asphalt 6 and RS11 which take about 500MB each.
Camera - I'll keep another 5-7GB spare for my camera's photos and videos, I'm not sure what the bitrate of 720p/1080p footage is on Galaxy Nexus.
So now the remaining goes for movies and tv shows, considering the only TV Shows I got on my comp are DB/Z/GT and Friends which take approx. 16-20GB each in a fairly poorly encoded version, I doubt I'll be able to transfer them there. I got my iPod storing DB/Z/GT and iPad storing Friends. I guess I'll keep a few beautifully encoded videos on my SGN, for which I have about 15-17GB. I guess this should be enough.
Dragooon123 said:
At what bitrate would you/do you encode your movies? I'm calculating my size requirements and whether only 32GB would be enough or not. I'm thinking 720p at 900kbps/1mbps max. So far here's how I've broken down my size usage too :
Music - 0B, considering that I always stream it I don't have any music on any of my devices
Apps - 5GB, mostly those big games like Asphalt 6 and RS11 which take about 500MB each.
Camera - I'll keep another 5-7GB spare for my camera's photos and videos, I'm not sure what the bitrate of 720p/1080p footage is on Galaxy Nexus.
So now the remaining goes for movies and tv shows, considering the only TV Shows I got on my comp are DB/Z/GT and Friends which take approx. 16-20GB each in a fairly poorly encoded version, I doubt I'll be able to transfer them there. I got my iPod storing DB/Z/GT and iPad storing Friends. I guess I'll keep a few beautifully encoded videos on my SGN, for which I have about 15-17GB. I guess this should be enough.
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Or. You could be less lazy and work more often to discard every file already seen. And on the photo/video, do the same thing with the ones you think you won't be showing everyday. Voila! 80% space saved. If you have problems with space, don't get the GN.
I agree an sdcard slot wouldn't have hurt and I see no reason for them not to implement it. Still, I'm getting the device. Just saying that expandability is nice to have.
You can also plug usb flash drive in via usb otg, theres a much storage as you could ever want (not as good as an sd card, and you can't tv out via mhl and use otg at the same time but it's something)
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veyka said:
You can also plug usb flash drive in via usb otg, theres a much storage as you could ever want (not as good as an sd card, and you can't tv out via mhl and use otg at the same time but it's something)
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That's why you put the movie onto your phone from the flash drive directly, THEN MHL onto a TV
I think 900 to 1100 kbit/s for a 720p video is ok IF you use h.264 video codec.
However I recommend a 2-pass encoding with high quality settings in this case (my settings for handbrake: ref=3:bframes=0:subq=9:mixed-refs=0:weightb=0:8x8dct=0:weightp=0:me=tesa:trellis=0:cqm=flat:level-idc=40 which deliver good results and are well playable even on tegra2 devices).
I encoded some typical 20 to 22 minute episodes to 175mb per episodes with that and quality was good.
I'm thinking about the galaxy nexus, however I would only get it if its available at acceptable price in the 32gb version. The lack of micro sd card is a disappointment.
I can live with the lower gpu since I barely play games on it.
However since I do consume media on it i'm wondering:
Does the galaxy nexus support decoding more formats now like the galaxy SII, for instance .mkv? I fear not since it's standard google.
Since I already have a SGS2 i may rather wait for ICS on it.
average size of a good movie encoded for 720p is aprox 4 GB
so 7 movies and the phone will barely have space for apps/games
assuming you buy the 32 GB version of the phone.
and you will have no space for any music at all
Dragooon123 said:
At what bitrate would you/do you encode your movies? I'm calculating my size requirements and whether only 32GB would be enough or not. I'm thinking 720p at 900kbps/1mbps max. So far here's how I've broken down my size usage too :
Music - 0B, considering that I always stream it I don't have any music on any of my devices
Apps - 5GB, mostly those big games like Asphalt 6 and RS11 which take about 500MB each.
Camera - I'll keep another 5-7GB spare for my camera's photos and videos, I'm not sure what the bitrate of 720p/1080p footage is on Galaxy Nexus.
So now the remaining goes for movies and tv shows, considering the only TV Shows I got on my comp are DB/Z/GT and Friends which take approx. 16-20GB each in a fairly poorly encoded version, I doubt I'll be able to transfer them there. I got my iPod storing DB/Z/GT and iPad storing Friends. I guess I'll keep a few beautifully encoded videos on my SGN, for which I have about 15-17GB. I guess this should be enough.
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But that 4GB would be for a fairly large screen, I mean the very small screen size should compensate good for bitrate. YouTube has then encoded at 700-800kbps.
the native resolution of GN is 720p
if you encode anything less than 720p you will see blurs/pixelations
just like when you watch a DVD disc on a HD 1080p screen
DVD are encoded at 480p
HD disc are 720p
Blueray disc are 1080p
I never said I will encode it less than 720p, I was talking about the bitrate. I don't need to encode it at full spec.
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AllGamer said:
the native resolution of GN is 720p
if you encode anything less than 720p you will see blurs/pixelations
just like when you watch a DVD disc on a HD 1080p screen
DVD are encoded at 480p
HD disc are 720p
Blueray disc are 1080p
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The quality of a picture depends on three things: resolution, screen size, and distance of the viewer to the screen.
Just saying that the screen is 720p tells you nothing.
Hi,
Can anyone recommend a good (cheap) hdmi adapter?
Cheers...
MJ-12
After over a week now, i will take that as a no?
Cheers...
MJ-12
Sorry, do you want a good one or a cheap one?
Both together is nearly impossible, but you are lucky!
We have a priceworthy and good MHL-adaptare (which i think yopu need): http://goo.gl/aD8T7
Shipping to UK is 4€ extra btw.
I got the samsung one from amazon at 13 euros. Decent enough but no HD video. Not with the somesung one or any other adapter i tried. Just keeps the Phones resolution. Fun to play games and maybe a movie though
hdmi adapter uk
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-adapter-microusb-to-hdmi-tv-out-black-p29839.htm
£12.95 inc of vat
this also works with no problems
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/20189616/-/Product.html
that's for £15 and claimed to be official. Took almost a week to deliver but worked without fault. Going by few reviews of "cheap" adapters, it seemed hit n miss thingy. Thought price is in middle for something genuine.
I can't vouch for the quality of this as I'm waiting for mine to be delivered (only ordered it this morning), but for a tenner I'm not complaining...
http://goo.gl/8BwsJ
starfarer said:
that's for £15 and claimed to be official. Took almost a week to deliver but worked without fault. Going by few reviews of "cheap" adapters, it seemed hit n miss thingy. Thought price is in middle for something genuine.
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That is the price for the genuine. post resolution when you try it pls.
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Just got ICS on my phone and tried the HDMI adapter. It seems that it has better quality with ICS. Don't know if it upscales the resolution but it seems clearer.
edit: So the output is 1080p but the upscaling isn't always the best. especially in games where the downloades files are for 800x480. In movies and photos it works great though.
starfarer said:
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/20189616/-/Product.html
that's for £15 and claimed to be official. Took almost a week to deliver but worked without fault. Going by few reviews of "cheap" adapters, it seemed hit n miss thingy. Thought price is in middle for something genuine.
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Argh hope it doesn't take a week to arrive, only ordered mine today
Decided at that price it just wasn't worth saving a couple of quid to get one that might work but likely have worse build quality.
Also ordered a HDMI to DVI cable from there for a stupidly low price of £2..
What's the actual conclusion on the SGS2s HDMI out? I've seen scattered reports of some people getting full 1080p out, others can't get any higher than the native 480x800. Then there's the Video Player app designed specifically for HD playback.
I'm getting 1080 with ICS but only on Videoplayback.
Tried several apps to resize the density for "office use" - everytime i had to reflash...
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Hollow.Droid said:
What's the actual conclusion on the SGS2s HDMI out? I've seen scattered reports of some people getting full 1080p out, others can't get any higher than the native 480x800. Then there's the Video Player app designed specifically for HD playback.
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Used to be 480p but in ICS works like a charm. BUT the app you are running has to be in HD or the phone upscales it a bit but not an actual HD quality. In movies it rocks.
cyberfux said:
I'm getting 1080 with ICS but only on Videoplayback.
Tried several apps to resize the density for "office use" - everytime i had to reflash...
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To me MX player works perfect, no problems with the stock samsung player.
Anyway even while the phone upscales the picture if you are at a big screen from the right distance you do not see bad quality. It is actually more than good. In photo gallery the quality is great, same on videos with any player. Only problem? Games. cause the downloaded files are for 800x480 which is low resolution if plagged on a 1080p tv.
Hollow.Droid said:
What's the actual conclusion on the SGS2s HDMI out? I've seen scattered reports of some people getting full 1080p out, others can't get any higher than the native 480x800. Then there's the Video Player app designed specifically for HD playback.
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Video resolution is independent of the phones native screen resolution. If the phone is 480*800 and the video is 1920*1080, then provided the media player can output 1080, and the tv being outputted to can display 1080, then the video will be 1080.
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euklidis said:
Used to be 480p but in ICS works like a charm. BUT the app you are running has to be in HD or the phone upscales it a bit but not an actual HD quality. In movies it rocks.
To me MX player works perfect, no problems with the stock samsung player.
Anyway even while the phone upscales the picture if you are at a big screen from the right distance you do not see bad quality. It is actually more than good. In photo gallery the quality is great, same on videos with any player. Only problem? Games. cause the downloaded files are for 800x480 which is low resolution if plagged on a 1080p tv.
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Photo gallery is played on 1080p? are you sure? on GB only videos were 1080
Not 1080p as far as I'm aware it is 1080i isn't it?
I got mines from fleebay, 19 pounds and that included a docking station and a spare battery.
You could always check Dealextreme... they always have good stocks of decent enough products
Wezi said:
Video resolution is independent of the phones native screen resolution. If the phone is 480*800 and the video is 1920*1080, then provided the media player can output 1080, and the tv being outputted to can display 1080, then the video will be 1080.
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What if say the video is 720p and your screen only goes up to 720p
My 22" monitor can't do 1080i so I appear to be stuck at 720x480
I got this one from Amazon for £6.99 and a HDMI cable for £2.25, I've only tried it with my TV (which can only do up to 1080i) and I get 1080i on it, no problems at all.
I haven't tried it with my monitor yet (I got it mainly to watch films on my TV without having to burn any disks/buy a NAS or anything) but I can try it to see the 1080p output if requested.
From what I understood it doesn't support 1080p
I update my kodi to latest version and i have some lags anyone has the same problem?
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Should be posted in Q&A section.
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x.Orville.x said:
I update my kodi to latest version and i have some lags anyone has the same problem?
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What kind of lagging? When doing what?
If you have lags in playing video check if hardware decoding works - try restarting the device if it doesn't.
If you have interface lags - then I don't know, I've never encountered such.
petermg said:
What kind of lagging? When doing what?
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I have encountered lags in certain media types on every version of XBMC/Kodi I have tried on the Fire TV except one, SPMC. When I discovered SPMC, it was instantly noticable that the video plays more smoothly than other versions. I have not had any lags since. Of course some HD streams will lag, but its because they are encoded too high and most connections cannot handle the stream, but besides high encoded HD streams I have had no lags. It kills me when people have great streams that are encoded so high that nobody can watch them. Makes me wonder if people are encoding streams too high on purpose. I am not a person that always needs an HD stream. To me if the stream is decent quality I could care less if its HD or not. I'll take a decent quality stream over an HD stream that has been encoded so high that its unwatchable any day.
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they are encoded too high and most connections cannot handle the stream
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I used to think similarly until I discovered that it's the wifi connection that is usually the buffering bottleneck. I tested this with several handbrake encodes using ten different bit-rates ranging from 5,000 kbps all the way up to 63,000 kbps; aside from the largest bit-rate there was no buffering in sight when connected via ethernet. I did a similar test with wifi, and I was only able to get up to ~12-15,000 kbps before buffering started making things unwatchable. That's about a 5 fold increase of bit-rate watchability, and the highest bit-rates were actually larger than a blu-ray's If that puts anything into perspective.
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I used to think similarly until I discovered that it's the wifi connection that is usually the buffering bottleneck. I tested this with several handbrake encodes using ten different bit-rates ranging from 5,000 kbps all the way up to 63,000 kbps; aside from the largest bit-rate there was no buffering in sight when connected via ethernet. I did a similar test with wifi, and I was only able to get up to ~12-15,000 kbps before buffering started making things unwatchable. That's about a 5 fold increase of bit-rate watchability, and the highest bit-rates were actually larger than a blu-ray's If that puts anything into perspective.
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I was not talking about local video encode, I was talking about encoded streams. You found out the same thing I was saying, that high encoded streams will be unwatchable just like I said.
I also had to connect Kodi to an ethernet cable to avoid buffering, so it's worth a try. While WiFi has higher bandwidth than 100Mbit ethernet it is not well suited for streaming since it can have temporary drops that cause hiccups. Other solution is ridiculously high cache, for me 75MB was too low for higher quality encodings. I had zero drops since using the ethernet cable.
Greetings, I'm looking to build a very barebones 4K game streaming pc for my ShieldTV. Imagine a tucked away small to medium form factor computer, powerful enough to push [email protected] but without any other bells and whistles since it will only be used for streaming games to my Shield. I wanted to start a discussion and perhaps query for a parts list that the community thinks would be appropriate for the task.
StreamBox Considerations:
[email protected] Steam/GameStream capabilities
Nvidia GTX 1070/80
bare minimum processor/ram
bare minimum ITX motherboard (no special features)
simple case or even considering an open test-bench to build it into my media console (pic coming soon)
Thanks in advance, will certainly keep a build log here as I proceed
The minimum system requirements will depend on the games you want to play. I use this machine: https://www.hpe.com/us/en/product-c.../pip.hpe-proliant-ml10-v2-server.7796450.html as as a remote game server. It's a prebuilt server system that costs less than €200,-. I swapped the original Pentium that came with it for a Xeon E3-1231v2, (overkill for most stuff, doom ran fine with the original cpu). Added disks and 16GB of ECC memory. I also installed a GTX950 because of it's low power consumption (75W, the psu is 350W). This is plenty fast for 1080p gaming but won't do 4K of course.
Apart from the disks (the machine is also a NAS) it cost me about €600 which roughly translates to $100,- (the price difference between US and europe is really horrible). The good thing is that it works like a charm.
Things to be aware of:
- the motherboard needs a soundchip/card to stream sound at all, I just installed a virtual soundcard (VB-Audio virtual cable)
- you are required to connect a mouse to the pcif the system is running Windows 10 or remote mouse control won't work
- past versions of gamestream/steam wouldn't work after connecting to the system with an RDP session. Use VNC instead.
Will the Shield TV ever do 4k Gaming? I'm not aware of that being an feature of the Tegra X1. IIRC [email protected] was the max for Game Streaming.
*Edit*
Ok so, perhaps thats how it was, but according to the new Release Notes apparently 4k Game Streaming will in fact be possible..
Steveborough said:
Greetings, I'm looking to build a very barebones 4K game streaming pc for my ShieldTV. Imagine a tucked away small to medium form factor computer, powerful enough to push [email protected] but without any other bells and whistles since it will only be used for streaming games to my Shield. I wanted to start a discussion and perhaps query for a parts list that the community thinks would be appropriate for the task.
StreamBox Considerations:
[email protected] Steam/GameStream capabilities
Nvidia GTX 1070/80
bare minimum processor/ram
bare minimum ITX motherboard (no special features)
simple case or even considering an open test-bench to build it into my media console (pic coming soon)
Thanks in advance, will certainly keep a build log here as I proceed
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If you want 4K60 then even a 1080 will struggle with some games.
Take a look here for inspiration: http://www.techspot.com/review/1246-ludicrous-graphics-test/
If you lower graphics then 4K60 will work fine with a 1080.
CPU's don't matter as much these days, so a Haswell i5 (4570/4590) should be fine. Probably the K version so you can overclock it in the future if needed.
Steveborough said:
Greetings, I'm looking to build a very barebones 4K game streaming pc for my ShieldTV. Imagine a tucked away small to medium form factor computer, powerful enough to push [email protected] but without any other bells and whistles since it will only be used for streaming games to my Shield. I wanted to start a discussion and perhaps query for a parts list that the community thinks would be appropriate for the task.
StreamBox Considerations:
[email protected] Steam/GameStream capabilities
Nvidia GTX 1070/80
bare minimum processor/ram
bare minimum ITX motherboard (no special features)
simple case or even considering an open test-bench to build it into my media console (pic coming soon)
Thanks in advance, will certainly keep a build log here as I proceed
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You're going to need a ton of horsepower to push 4k @ 60fps, if you want anything in the graphics turned up. You'll probably need two of those cards and they are huge by the way. I'm not sure how small you will be able to get the case considering that. Normally you want a large case for air flow, but if you want it as compact as possible you will need to do water cooling, also amazing to keep the noise down. Try to find a case that is the exact same size as your MB (make it a compact MB) and then do custom water cooing with two gtx 1070s. No wifi or sound card, just use LAN (faster anyway) and no peripherals or speakers or anything. PSU takes up a lot of space too unfortunately, but at least you can get low profile ram lol.
I got it. Buy a 3500 dollar surface book lol
So after thinking about this for a few days, the plan is to build this into my TV media console as an open-air streaming rig. Here's some of the parts list in my head and a (poor quality) pic of my floating media console and 4K TV setup
mini-itx z270 motherboard
Kabylake i5 7600k
air cooler
GTX 1080
modular power supply
I plan to mount the motherboard w/ air-cooler upsidedown in the center cube of the console (imagine a cool looking heatsink suspended from the top of the center cube) and use a pci ribbon cable to put the GTX 1080 on display on the inside bottom. Will post diagrams next week, works kicking my *ss. It's rather hard to see but the console has doors on the 2 right-most squares; here's where I plan to hide a modular power supply (drilling a hole big enough for the mobo/gpu power cables) This should be amazing! Anyone think I can get Nvidia sponsorship, this would show off GameStream and the new ShieldTV (even though I have the Gen1) like nothing else I can imagine!
Looks awesome, keep posting
Btw, I did a mini-itx build to play and stream games on my TV.
Parts: http://pcpartpicker.com/b/rrHhP6
I haven't been able to find much updated info on this topic, other than when the P6 & P6P were first released.
I've been using Google phones since the Galaxy Nexus. I just really like the "Google" experience.
I was in Best Buy about 2 years ago, and on a whim I bought an LG V40 open-box, not to use as a phone, but as an audio player. The LG V series phone have dedicated DAC chip-sets (usually ESS Sabre) that support higher resolution audio files and built-in amps that drive lower impedance headphones fairly well. Of course, the benefits are only available through wired headphones, and FLAC audio files of various types. I had subscribed to Tidal Masters until about 3 months ago when I switched to Qobuz Sublime +. When using USB Audio Pro, you can listen to MQA files at 24-bit, full-studio resolution. If you have an external DAC, you'll be able to listen to the exact same quality as recorded in the studio.
I still use the V40 and the internal ESS DAC, and FLAC files of various formats sound incredible - but they're still limited to Android's 16-bit/48khz resolution. (AFAIK, not guaranteed)
So...I wanted to experience the best sound possible in a portable format without spending $1500 on Astrel & Kern or other high-end DAP. That's when I bought an AudioQuest Cobalt USB DAC. Works wonderfully on my LG V40 - completely bypasses the internal DAC. Using a phone as a DAP has other advantages, especially if the phone has a MicroSD slot, not to mention being able to use Google Home and other Android apps.
I ordered a 256GB P6P unlocked from Google as soon as I could. The 256GB would be fine for my usual app installations and enough room to download a decent amount of audio files for offline play.
To my complete disappointment, when I plugged the AQ Cobalt in, it would play some files, but they were very low in volume and often there's no output at all. And my favorite - ear-bleeding screeches at random.
Google is aware of the issue, but I haven't read much beyond that. I really enjoy music, especially high quality recordings, and FLAC formats in general. MQA is unique because the files aren't huge like a WAV file, and when used with software like USB Audio Player Pro, you're able to listen in bit perfect mode, with absolutely no added or unwanted EQ curves, boosts, etc.
Sorry for the long post. I don't claim that what I've written is 100% accurate. But I can say that almost anyone will quickly notice details and subtleties in songs they've heard countless times before. As long as you don't mind being hardwired to your phone, it's incredible. My every day full-size headphones are $100 Grados, and my earbuds are AKG N20s.
There are other threads relating to this subject including this, in case it's helpful: Google's working on a fix for the Pixel 6's external DAC issues, but don't expect it anytime soon - You better hope 2022 flies by
roirraW edor ehT said:
There are other threads relating to this subject including this, in case it's helpful: Google's working on a fix for the Pixel 6's external DAC issues, but don't expect it anytime soon - You better hope 2022 flies by
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Agreed. I'm pretty certain that the issue is in the lower half of the lowest 2% in terms of priority among the Google engineers banished to the 7 workstations without a view of the outside world.
And yes, Bluetooth CODECS have evolved by leaps and bounds. Fewer and fewer reasons to be tethered by a 5' cord.
I'll even run the output from my Dragonfly Cobalt into an inexpensive tube amp to get my version of the best sound possible, especially if I'm using low impedence headphones.
I'll search the forum with different keywords to uncover more.
Thanks for replying!