I mainly use 3g to browse the internet with opera, but if i connect to my wireless network and open opera it continues to use 3g. Is their any way i can make it use wireless? I thought it should automatically but it doesn't.
Thanks for any help.
be connected just to wifi
Is that the only way? I use push email that uses 3g and would sooner not disconnect that when i want to use opera over wifi.
I've just checked Internet explorer and that's fine using wifi, but opera still refuses to use it and sticks with 3g. Does anyone elses Touch HD do this?
I'll have a look at mine in a minute, but need to ask a daft question, how can i tell which data source the HD is using for its internet information at any one time?
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I'll have a look at mine in a minute, but need to ask a daft question, how can i tell which data source the HD is using for its internet information at any one time?
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You can go onto google and search for 'whats my ip' and use one of them sites to see if its your ip address or one used by your operator. Thanks very much.
Sorry, that took a bit longer than a minute.
Opera is using wifi here. However, when I first boot up my phone in my house (i.e. in wifi range) data connection is turned off and wifi is turned on by default. However, even if i switch on the data connection and fire up opera, it still uses wifi rather that 02 mobileweb.
I may talk a wlk down the street later and i'll see if the data connection will come on at bootup if a wifi isn't available
Have you tried going to settings->connections tab->connections->advanced tab->select networks and changing the default connection to "My Isp" or "My work network".
This may help although I have had very similar problems with opera using 3g instead of wifi. I reported the problem HTC and after an absolute age they wrote back saying "That shouldn't happen" without any real advice on what to do next. Since then I have always turned 3g off when turning wifi on. I used to use push email but of course turning off 3g buggers that up so I have settled for syncing every 15 minutes and as a side benefit that seems to have improved battery life.
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Sorry, that took a bit longer than a minute.
Opera is using wifi here. However, when I first boot up my phone in my house (i.e. in wifi range) data connection is turned off and wifi is turned on by default. However, even if i switch on the data connection and fire up opera, it still uses wifi rather that 02 mobileweb.
I may talk a wlk down the street later and i'll see if the data connection will come on at bootup if a wifi isn't available
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Thanks for your help.
dcoales said:
Have you tried going to settings->connections tab->connections->advanced tab->select networks and changing the default connection to "My Isp" or "My work network".
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I've tried what you have suggested and opera did use the wifi, however when i turn wifi off it won't use 3g until i go back into those settings and set it to do so.
I've noticed that if i turn my phone on and don't use the 3g connection opera will use wifi fine, but once i turn wifi off or go out of range and use 3g then return to wifi opera refuses to use it and sticks with 3g. I just don't understand why it's fine using wifi so long as it hasn't used 3g.
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I just learned the hard way that it appers that the Tytn with WM6 does not seem to automatically choose the wifi connection over the 3G data-connection. This is horrible!
I have the 3G data connection set to allways on and I thought when I connected to Wifi that would be the connection the system used, but no, just got a large 3G data-traffic bill.
It's so many things I can't belive that is so wrong with WM6, does the developers use this themselves?? So many things ar very unlogical and non user friendly that I think M$ should fire the people responsible for Windows Mobile.
Is there any hack to force wifi to be used when connected, or at least get some warning that 3G connection is used even though Wifi is activated? Seems crazy that I have to turn phone of to use wifi and not be charged 3G data traffic.
No one in 50 people finds this to be a problem, strange...
There's something called 'Comm Manager', and strangely there is a button for disconnecting the data connection, and by accident it won't reconnect if there's an active wifi connection... I wonder how did you come up whith the idea of soft-reseting your phone to disconnect the data connection..
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I just learned the hard way that it appers that the Tytn with WM6 does not seem to automatically choose the wifi connection over the 3G data-connection. This is horrible!
I have the 3G data connection set to allways on and I thought when I connected to Wifi that would be the connection the system used, but no, just got a large 3G data-traffic bill.
It's so many things I can't belive that is so wrong with WM6, does the developers use this themselves?? So many things ar very unlogical and non user friendly that I think M$ should fire the people responsible for Windows Mobile.
Is there any hack to force wifi to be used when connected, or at least get some warning that 3G connection is used even though Wifi is activated? Seems crazy that I have to turn phone of to use wifi and not be charged 3G data traffic.
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Hi, man.
I have notice that the metric for the WIfi connection is lower than the one for 3G or GPRS in the routing table.
Thats mean the default route go trought Wifi if this is availabe. The exception are some software that needs the 3G or GPRS connection like PushMail.
For example, if you connect your Wifi and open the PIE or Opera and surf the web, no GPRS/3G data is trasmitted, sure... you can see by yourself.
Live Messenger can works to chat over Wifi, but if detects GPRS 3G connection, use this connection (bad done by M$). Try unconfig the connections and connect to wifi, you will chat over wifi, but the email sync don't work...M$ have done bad choice IMO.
Regards.
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Hi, man.
I have notice that the metric for the WIfi connection is lower than the one for 3G or GPRS in the routing table.
Thats mean the default route go trought Wifi if this is availabe. The exception are some software that needs the 3G or GPRS connection like PushMail.
For example, if you connect your Wifi and open the PIE or Opera and surf the web, no GPRS/3G data is trasmitted, sure... you can see by yourself.
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Well I did get 20 mb of 3G trafic in 2 days, days when I had wifi active and 3G-data connection. Only thing I used was IE and Newsbreak RSS aggregator. If I have connection ro my router over wifi, but what if connection to internet temporarily stops working, will WM6 then use the active 3G connection without any notification?
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There's something called 'Comm Manager', and strangely there is a button for disconnecting the data connection, and by accident it won't reconnect if there's an active wifi connection... I wonder how did you come up whith the idea of soft-reseting your phone to disconnect the data connection..
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Do you think I'm stupid or what? I haven't been softresetting anything.. There is no button for disconnecting data connection in standard Comm Manger. This is not the issue anyhow, issue is how stupid can an OS be that uses an active 3G data connection when there is a wifi connection available at the same time... And if the wifi connection isn't working it notifies the user of that fact and informs it will switch to 3G data connection.
In other words how can the user know what connection is used. Only safe way seem to be to turn phone off in Comm Manager, which I will do forward on.
A logical system like iPhone will connect to wifi when available by itself. And I'm quite sure user is somehow notified of this fact.
There was a button for it in the wm5 comm manager, and after the updated, I didn't notice any difference whith the wm6 one, but there's always the option to change it to the Kaiser's comm manager (just a cab install, nothing hard or threatening). The 10 button comm manger has the 'Data Connection' button and that's a fact, and it looks better too (in my oppinion).
Sorry about the soft resetting thing, I misunderstood it a bit
And about the issue of the 3G connection, there are some countries that don't have city wide open wifi networks (like mine), so the only place I can use it is at home (or some open wifi network on the street but that's quite unreliable). So our operators divised the 3G internet connection plan accordingly whith prepaid MB -s or GB -s. So in my case it realy doesn't matter which do I use. (ohh btw 200 MB costs us around 11 USD and 5 GB is around 28 USD)
In all honesty there are a number of different solutions. Comm Manager, the NoData App, BandSwitch or it cousin program could help you with that. There are tons of third party apps. Worse case scenario just kill the phone and switch to Fly-mode. I mean, dude when you are going to do something with your phone and you are afraid that it might cost you money then research first before using.
Thank God you only used 20megs. Here in Canada that stunt would have cost you almost $1000!!
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In all honesty there are a number of different solutions. Comm Manager, the NoData App, BandSwitch or it cousin program could help you with that. There are tons of third party apps. Worse case scenario just kill the phone and switch to Fly-mode. I mean, dude when you are going to do something with your phone and you are afraid that it might cost you money then research first before using.
Thank God you only used 20megs. Here in Canada that stunt would have cost you almost $1000!!
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Well I did test and then checked only to see if I was charged any traffic and I wasn't so I thought it was fine. Apparently the charge is a bit delayed.. Well it's no fortune here, a little more then 1 dollar per MB. Still would be nice to clearly see when wifi and 3G is used, I use wifi at work and at home and don't want to switch phone part off.
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There was a button for it in the wm5 comm manager, and after the updated, I didn't notice any difference whith the wm6 one, but there's always the option to change it to the Kaiser's comm manager (just a cab install, nothing hard or threatening). The 10 button comm manger has the 'Data Connection' button and that's a fact, and it looks better too (in my oppinion).
Sorry about the soft resetting thing, I misunderstood it a bit
And about the issue of the 3G connection, there are some countries that don't have city wide open wifi networks (like mine), so the only place I can use it is at home (or some open wifi network on the street but that's quite unreliable). So our operators divised the 3G internet connection plan accordingly whith prepaid MB -s or GB -s. So in my case it realy doesn't matter which do I use. (ohh btw 200 MB costs us around 11 USD and 5 GB is around 28 USD)
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I'm trying to keep a clean installation of the official Swedish rom, been having problems with wake up on notifications when using other comm manager and HTC Home plugin. Off course it's no major problem to go to flight mode, just weird that one even has to think about it on a modern os...
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Well I did get 20 mb of 3G trafic in 2 days, days when I had wifi active and 3G-data connection. Only thing I used was IE and Newsbreak RSS aggregator. If I have connection ro my router over wifi, but what if connection to internet temporarily stops working, will WM6 then use the active 3G connection without any notification?
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The only thing you can do to be sure only Wifi is ised is to select The Work Network in Connections, so no 3G connections to your operator is done....
If some app uses 3G before Wifi, the OS don't notify, how can the OS notify this? The OS have in the route table metric to use Wifi first, 3G after...
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I am using vp3gs 3.61 rom with windows live messenger version 10.6.0031.2600. no matter what I do it won't connect on my WPA-PSK enabled router. I can connect fine to the internet.
Any special setup I need to do to get it to work?
Thanks for any help.
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Could someone on ATT disable the phone and use WIFI only and see if you can connect to LIVE?
I am using 10.6.0031.1600(older than yours) but I am able to connect to live services using the wifi with WPA-PSK.
I am using my own cooked rom.
Search in all the forums I remember some people had the simillar issues and had some 'workarounds'
Sorry I do not really remember.
I too also had a problem with .2600, reverted to .1600 and all is good over wifi. By the way, I'm using WPA TKIP on my wifi.
Tried that one too and still get the "there was a problem signing you in to messenger" error after checking internet connectivity.
try these ideas.
1 ensure your wifi settings are to internet and not work
2 ensure you dnt have the ip address set up in exceptions (these ips are only for intranet)
3 turn off your phone entirely. soft reset your phone. check that wifi is still internet and not work.
4 turn on wifi only. check that u have normal internet access. emails and hotmail etc work ok. then open messenger and sign in.
5 if you have to, use wlm switch user command and relogin.
this should work. once u have run and got it working, you can turn your phone back on and it should continue to use wifi and not 3g
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simon_darley said:
try these ideas.
1 ensure your wifi settings are to internet and not work
2 ensure you dnt have the ip address set up in exceptions (these ips are only for intranet)
3 turn off your phone entirely. soft reset your phone. check that wifi is still internet and not work.
4 turn on wifi only. check that u have normal internet access. emails and hotmail etc work ok. then open messenger and sign in.
5 if you have to, use wlm switch user command and relogin.
this should work. once u have run and got it working, you can turn your phone back on and it should continue to use wifi and not 3g
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Still times out on checking internet connection.
I get email and internet fine. but no WLM.
I am using ATT. What should there be under Connections?
I have tried 2 My ISP and Media.net on My ISP it times out automatically, on Media.net it takes a while to time out.
Also did a hard reset to make sure that it wasnt anything I had installed. With the stock rom I still get the time out.
the proxy server u r using will b blocking that port.
I use telstra in australia, internet and push email works with proxy on, but wlm doesnt.
so i just turn off proxy and everything works except some of the telstra stuff which i dont want anyway.
proxy tends to give a garden firewall of their preferred content.
dunno how to deal with att, but suggest one of your connections should allow you to bypass the proxy styled firewall garden of att.
soz i dont have it to help u further, except to point u towards the proxy manager.
just to reiterate and emphasis the telstra proxy manager controls over rides and screws up 3g/next G connections AND my wifi.
only by turning this proxy manager off can i use wifi and 3g fully.
Thanks, there is a cab that disables the proxy on the att phone, so I disabled it, but that didnt help either.
Wlm 10.6.0031.2600
Hi, does anyone have the cab or installer for the latest WLM 10.6.0031.2600? Can someone post it or make it available for download? Thanks a million
Is anyone who has ATT able to use Windows Live Messenger?
Okay since WLM obviously doesnt work over wifi. How do you guys setup your outlook to get Hotmail?
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Is anyone who has ATT able to use Windows Live Messenger?
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Absolutely. I use it all the time. Mostly through 3G but sometimes through my home wireless network. Never had a problem.
Memnoch30, what version of WLM you using and do you have it set any special way in connections to use WIFI?
Well it seems I am not the only one having this problem, I got an interesting PM stating another person has the same problem as I do. If someone else could do me a favor, turn off the phone in comm manager, but keep wifi on. Can you still connect to Live???
Anyone? Thanks in advance
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Just try to keep the Red button pressed ~3s (it will cancel the GPRS connection) then Messenger will use the wifi one (i do like that since i use pocket msn).
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Just try to keep the Red button pressed ~3s (it will cancel the GPRS connection) then Messenger will use the wifi one (i do like that since i use pocket msn).
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Doesn't work for me, all that does is close out Live messenger.
anything else I need to try?
It doesnt work even if I turn off GPRS and leave wifi only.
Hi people
Firstly, awesome forum! Although I don't post here, this forum has helped me numerous times. This is the first time i could not solve a problem and therefore had to post about. So a big fat thanks to all you guys!
I notice when my email is being updated or my contacts facebook updates, sometimes (most times actually) it connects via Edge even though I'm at home with wifi. Some programs and also browsing uses Edge over wifi at times. Is there any way to make it choose wifi over Edge, if its available, ALL the time?
Thanks in advance
If you are connected to a wifi network it should always use that over MediaNet. Mine does, at least. If you'll just leave the wifi in the on position in the Comm Manager and have it config'd for your home network it should automatically connect whenever you are at home.
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If you are connected to a wifi network it should always use that over MediaNet. Mine does, at least. If you'll just leave the wifi in the on position in the Comm Manager and have it config'd for your home network it should automatically connect whenever you are at home.
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Man, if I turn on my WiFi radio continuously, the battery heads for zero in a hurry! I keep mine off unless I know I'm in range of a network I can use.
I don't know if this has been posted already, but I was struggling trying to find solutions so I thought I would post what worked for me.
After updating to froyo rooted deodexed stock rom, my wifi tether became very unstable. It would say it was connected, but my computer would lose internet access and would only reconnect after I stopped and restarted wireless tether.
The day it started to behave again I did the following:
- Turned "Find My Location" off in Shopsavvy
(this did not make a noticeable difference, but I left it like that anyway, just in case)
- Upgraded wireless tether to 2.0.5-pre8
- Installed Wifinder to make sure I was using a clear channel in wireless tether
(The default channel I was on was clear from what I could tell, but I went ahead and changed it to 1 in the wireless tether settings anyway)
- On my computer, I right clicked on the wireless tether connection, selected properties, connection, and put a checkbox in "connect even if the network is not broadcasting its name (SSID)", then ok.
(I believe I read some people saying that the phone was stopping broadcasting the SSID when the internet was dropping, which is why I did this)
After those changes, I was able to stay connected for hours versus minutes, but after restarting the phone I have been able to stay connected until I disconnect.
The only time it has disconnected without me physically turning off wifi tether since then was a couple of times trying to test my upload speed, but not every time. I think there must be something they are doing to shut down the connection when large or aggressive uploads are detected or something.
I was actually having this same problem on the old Fresh .02 ROM I was using. Thanks for the info I will give what you said a try!
I was having the same problems as well...it seemed like every 10 minutes it would just stop but still said I was connected when clearly I wasn't. I will have to test this tonight when I get home...thanks so much!
Can anyone confirm this works? I'm having major issues with all data connection dropping after a few minutes of being online. What I've noticed is that the 3G indicator in the notification bar will actually disappear momentarily, then reappear, but once it reappears...I'm not able to connect further until I restart the tether app.
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Can anyone confirm this works? I'm having major issues with all data connection dropping after a few minutes of being online. What I've noticed is that the 3G indicator in the notification bar will actually disappear momentarily, then reappear, but once it reappears...I'm not able to connect further until I restart the tether app.
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I would change your version of wireless tether first. Which one are you using? I am using 7 now, but I believe 8 was best for me.
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I would change your version of wireless tether first. Which one are you using? I am using 7 now, but I believe 8 was best for me.
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Using "Wireless Tether for Root Users 2.0.5-pre11" now...haven't tried it with this version however I was using pre9 and that version was causing the 3G problems that I described in my last post.
I had this same issue. When I went into the wireless tether application and changed it to use channel one everything started working perfectly.
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I had this same issue. When I went into the wireless tether application and changed it to use channel one everything started working perfectly.
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I'll try that and report my results...really annoying problem, ya know?
I think the "aggressive download" portion is accurate. I can stay connected for hours with a little web browsing going on; however, start up a torrent or connect to my PS3 and it disconnects in 5-10 minutes. I'll try the SSID broadcast later tonight though and test it under heavy load.
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I think the "aggressive download" portion is accurate. I can stay connected for hours with a little web browsing going on; however, start up a torrent or connect to my PS3 and it disconnects in 5-10 minutes. I'll try the SSID broadcast later tonight though and test it under heavy load.
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My issue isn't "aggressive downloads" - a PS3 connection doesn't require a lot of bandwidth, just a low latency connection - which is probably the reason you are disconnected. I use my wireless tether for playing online games from my computer. When it is actually working and playing well, its running 8-12 kbit/sec, which is very low bandwidth. It's only when the 3G indicator disappears that my whole connection is lost and I have to restart my game and restart Wireless Tether as well. FWIW my latency while playing is roughly 400-500ms - high, but the game tolerates it.
I was connected to my mother's WiFi at her place and she has terribly slow Internet so I forgot her network to just stay in mobile data. 10 minutes later I got the authentication message for her WiFi, and 5 minutes later I was connected again. Checked my WiFi list and it shows it as an available network, but not connected. I have tried connecting with the wrong password, forgetting a couple more times, no matter what I do it still connects to her damn WiFi. What can I do (other than turn my WiFi off, obviously) to block this network?
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I was connected to my mother's WiFi at her place and she has terribly slow Internet so I forgot her network to just stay in mobile data. 10 minutes later I got the authentication message for her WiFi, and 5 minutes later I was connected again. Checked my WiFi list and it shows it as an available network, but not connected. I have tried connecting with the wrong password, forgetting a couple more times, no matter what I do it still connects to her damn WiFi. What can I do (other than turn my WiFi off, obviously) to block this network?
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That's strange. Never hear of that issue before. Have you tried to use an app like WiFi Ruler to block it manualy? Just set the "closed" rule on the network and save.
Did you ever find a solution to this? I have almost an identical problem. In my case the wifi keeps trying to connect to the network in my old job.... even though I'm sitting in my apartment with my own wifi network. I have to manually connect to my wifi, but then 5 minutes later the phone will complain that there's no Internet connection. When I check the wifi settings it's once again trying to connect to my work wifi
My HTC M8 was normally able to successfully *forget* wifi networks until the recent upgrade to OS 6.2 (which broke so many things I've lost count). NOW, although I still have the "forget" option by long press, the network just keeps coming back and it blocks me from connecting to the valid one instead.