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Hi,
I currently have an O2 XDA Exec, and am looking at the Artemis to replace it when the contract expires.
With the Exec, I can play back full-screen DIVX videos pretty smoothly, without any re-encoding being required. Does the same work on the Artemis?
regards,
/alan
Not exactly.
If you want to play full-size divx movies, you need to use omap-clock or another overclocking tool to set speed at least 260 MHz.
But.. i am using free MediaEncoder to resample to 320x240 px resolution. It gives me longer battery life, i can use one card for navigation maps and movie. It's just few mouse clicks..
How long does it take to run on an average 45 minute DIVX file?
regards,
/alan
i think that it would matter on the computer used to encoed it, but normaly it takes about 3-5 mins to encode a tv show....plus the added benefit of encoding is that a normal tv show of 350mb can be compressed to 70-80mb. so you can put quite a few tv shows on your card
Wow - that's very fast. Is that Windows Media Encoder?
Thanks and regards,
/alan
pants
I find it pretty pants on my orbit, even though I have it overclocked the performance just isnt there!
My wizard was fine for streaming films across my network though, and the specs are pretty much the same, I am waiting for WM6 to come out, hopefully it will be better
i'm supprised with divx capabilities of artemis.
It has only 200mhz but i have sdhc card and maybe for that reason i can play xvid and divx movies, of course, with little lower frame rate but without freezing.
I have Malcom in the middle 640x480 with about 15-18fps, sometimes even 20fps, and some movie 640x278 resolution and play smoothly.
try Sompy MovieEncoder
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i have a motorola q that i am trying to use a 8gb sdhc card with a mini sd card adapter. i tried to use a usb 2.0 card reader with it and synced it with my windows media player library. when i try to play the songs after i put the card in my phone, not all of the songs show up in media player. i can see all of the artists when i go to file explorer though. can someone help me out??
'Update library...' in Windows Media or just start using S2P
i have already updated the library at least 5 times but i will try using s2p. thx
when i use s2p on my moto q, since it has no touch screen, it is not functional for some reason and i cannot navigate. it also flips the screen into a portrait format instead of the regular landscape. suggestions
Touch or smartphone?
hitittome873 said:
when i use s2p on my moto q, since it has no touch screen, it is not functional for some reason and i cannot navigate. it also flips the screen into a portrait format instead of the regular landscape. suggestions
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Is moto q touch!? it must to work! so try.... Betaplayer or tcpmp... i recomend the V.81 or V.72, is better than WMP or S2P.
is your card FAT32?
Since I switched from 6.1 (official rom) to 6.5 (official rom upgrade) the coreplayer started to have a choppy playback. It does not make a difference if I install it on the sd card (class 6) or on the phone itself, same for the videos
I had no problems with videoplayback on the 6.1!
Switching to a custom ROM (6.5.5) but that didn't make the video playback any faster. What can I do?
PumpAction said:
Since I switched from 6.1 (official rom) to 6.5 (official rom upgrade) the coreplayer started to have a choppy playback. It does not make a difference if I install it on the sd card (class 6) or on the phone itself, same for the videos
I had no problems with videoplayback on the 6.1!
Switching to a custom ROM (6.5.5) but that didn't make the video playback any faster. What can I do?
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Make sure you compare performance using a video you have tried before, and you considered it to run faster in WM 6.1.
Then, first thing to try is Video Settings, look for these settings:
Video Output = QTv Display (Other settings produced poor quality for me)
Video Quality = Medium or High
Then go to QTv Display, and make sure this is checked:
"TyTN II" driver mode.
I hope I was able to help you...
As side comments:
- Sometimes videos that have been compressed a lot would loose frames during playback. Sometimes we are too demanding and want to play videos at 800x480, but the TP2 can't really do it well at that resolution. Try a smaller resolution instead when converting your videos.
- In some cases, if the GUI is not using the 3D Accelerator (as with SBP Mobile Shell), CorePlayer performs terrible or even doesn't show the video.
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Make sure you compare performance using a video you have tried before, and you considered it to run faster in WM 6.1.
Then, first thing to try is Video Settings, look for these settings:
Video Output = QTv Display (Other settings produced poor quality for me)
Video Quality = Medium or High
Then go to QTv Display, and make sure this is checked:
"TyTN II" driver mode.
I hope I was able to help you...
As side comments:
- Sometimes videos that have been compressed a lot would loose frames during playback. Sometimes we are too demanding and want to play videos at 800x480, but the TP2 can't really do it well at that resolution. Try a smaller resolution instead when converting your videos.
- In some cases, if the GUI is not using the 3D Accelerator (as with SBP Mobile Shell), CorePlayer performs terrible or even doesn't show the video.
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Or you can turn off Manila 3D when playing your videos. This is a known bug with Coreplayer, WM6.5, and Manila on the TP2. Just the TP2. My Topaz doesn't have this problem with the same setup and same Energy rom. Turning off Manila is the easiest workaround. Search the Rhodium forums for a mortscript routine that will shut off Manila, execute Coreplayer, and resume Manila once you exit Coreplayer. A nicer workaround in the long run. But still a workaround.
people have complaining about playback and ive never had a problem. i both upgraded my rom to 2.07 and my coreplayer to the latest version and now im one with choppy playback. not sure what exactly is different i wish i didnt delete my old core player cab so i could test that.
AmazingIceman said:
Make sure you compare performance using a video you have tried before, and you considered it to run faster in WM 6.1.
Then, first thing to try is Video Settings, look for these settings:
Video Output = QTv Display (Other settings produced poor quality for me)
Video Quality = Medium or High
Then go to QTv Display, and make sure this is checked:
"TyTN II" driver mode.
I hope I was able to help you...
As side comments:
- Sometimes videos that have been compressed a lot would loose frames during playback. Sometimes we are too demanding and want to play videos at 800x480, but the TP2 can't really do it well at that resolution. Try a smaller resolution instead when converting your videos.
- In some cases, if the GUI is not using the 3D Accelerator (as with SBP Mobile Shell), CorePlayer performs terrible or even doesn't show the video.
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OK disabling Manila is a good idea, but what is the easiest way to shut it down? Everything else is set up correctly. And believe me, I tried each and every setting What I find surprising is that the official 6.5 gave me the same bug. Isn't it using any acceleration ?
EDIT: Windows Media Player does also have very very choppy playback. It does not matter if the files are placed on the SD Card or on the phone itself. Different file types, different file sizes. AVI, WMV, MP4 ... The moment the files have more than ~400kbit the video stutters. If I go into full screen it stutters even more
The Jack of Clubs said:
people have complaining about playback and ive never had a problem. i both upgraded my rom to 2.07 and my coreplayer to the latest version and now im one with choppy playback. not sure what exactly is different i wish i didnt delete my old core player cab so i could test that.
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It started with wm6.5 and Manila 2.x. I noticed even with Manila 2.1 this problem occurred. Only on the Tilt2 - maybe HD2 - I just know this because I own a Fuze and Diamond2 and never saw this problem. It doesn't matter what version of Coreplayer you use - even the one going back to the initial Qtv support. This has more to do with Manila hijacking the video drivers.
I say this because I noticed on a clean reboot the first execution of Coreplayer results in clean video results. But after you close it or load another video the poor performance kicks in. HTC Sense or Manila, running on wm6.5 or higher mind you, does not want other programs taking over the video driver. Not a very scientific explanation I know but this is my observation.
dario69 said:
It started with wm6.5 and Manila 2.x. I noticed even with Manila 2.1 this problem occurred. Only on the Tilt2 - maybe HD2 - I just know this because I own a Fuze and Diamond2 and never saw this problem. It doesn't matter what version of Coreplayer you use - even the one going back to the initial Qtv support. This has more to do with Manila hijacking the video drivers.
I say this because I noticed on a clean reboot the first execution of Coreplayer results in clean video results. But after you close it or load another video the poor performance kicks in. HTC Sense or Manila, running on wm6.5 or higher mind you, does not want other programs taking over the video driver. Not a very scientific explanation I know but this is my observation.
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OK I formatted the SD Card. And I even used Task 29 to format the main os! I reinstalled another ROM (6.5 but with Sense 2.1) and the problem remains.
Windows Media Player AND Coreplayer, both have a VERY VERY choppy playback.
PumpAction said:
OK I formatted the SD Card. And I even used Task 29 to format the main os! I reinstalled another ROM (6.5 but with Sense 2.1) and the problem remains.
Windows Media Player AND Coreplayer, both have a VERY VERY choppy playback.
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HI,
for Me the only ROM wich plays MP4 videos at 30fps with HTCPLAYER.exe at VGA resolution is the Valkirie ROM, and I have tried every main ROM for Rhodium many times each, maybe like 60 flashes or more.
This is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569507
Wont be dissapointed, and dont need coreplayer for MP4, only for other formats like mpeg.
I hope this helps.
So I love my HD because of it's big screen (I love watching movies). I download these high quality 3d anime movies and sink them down to 800x480, play them on my coreplayer 1.3.6 or smth and it lags like hell. I try it on Windows media player and it runs perfectly. Am I doing something wrong or does coreplayer really suck ?
i think it might be you.
on my HD, i pick any 1hr30min+ video encoded for playback on pcs (file size 700mb) and it plays fine in CP
Maybe its a ROM issue? try disabling manila or a softreset and see if that helps.
Would have to agree with ASK
Yeah, coreplayer is brilliant, plays pretty much everything i throw at it. Though at first i'd have agreed with you, but for differing reasons.
I think it's more A ROM issue, because I flash ROMs every week or two and on some ROMs coreplayer lags like hell. With stock ROM is the best I think
840x480 is too much for our HD try a bit lower something in the range of 624x352 it looks and runs smooth 98.22% average speed with a good ROM I run hdtv rips downloaded and not compressed or anything... tweaks are important also try different drivers and speed improving programs .
I loaded a standard definition american dad episode (approx 135mb) and coreplayer plays it flawlessly on my HD.
PaKo0o said:
So I love my HD because of it's big screen (I love watching movies). I download these high quality 3d anime movies and sink them down to 800x480, play them on my coreplayer 1.3.6 or smth and it lags like hell. I try it on Windows media player and it runs perfectly. Am I doing something wrong or does coreplayer really suck ?
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Maybe it is you. LOL, just kidding. I never sunk anything to a special format for it to be played by CP: I have DivX, XViD, MP4, AVI movies, I just put them on my storage card and open them "as is" in Coreplayer 1.36. Either your manipulation to "sink" the anime to 800*480 was wrong, because you don't need to actually. Or it could be ROM related.
f.
Never knew it could be ROM related.. 0.o I'll test that. What about other normal movies, like not anime? Are they watchable ?
where it could be ROM related it it probably more likely to be a long standing issue with the HD and drivers, this has been covered a zillion times already. The HD will have trouble most video files in coreplayer as there is no hardware acceleration and the CPU alone just doesnt have the low down grunt.Your best bet is to upgrade to the HD2 or to covert your files using the touch HD video converter, (there are a few versions about) and then play them in HTC video player which has acceleration.
That being said, coreplayer if by far the best player on the market with regards to formats and codec suppport, if you dont mind reducing the resolution a little on your movies they should reasonable well.
The software I like, the company I do not however as they are mislead their customers, make huge exegerations about future update release dates and generally pissed off their customer base when failed to release V2 on time and moved their dev to android.
If you are going to upgrade to the HD2 I would try the free version TCMP first as it has AC3 suppport.
Hey what class cards are you guys playing stuff off or are ya's playing stuff off the internal memory?
I'm asking because even though mine could play a cartoon flawlessly, I tried watching a normal tv episode on my HD and it failed miserably, dropped frames, video got stuck every few minutes, it was totally poo
I'm wondering if its my card or my TCPMP release, I have read some have hardware acceleration and most other versions don't, I'm using a Class 4 8GB card at the moment and am wondering if Ill get a lot of benefit for Video/Music going to a Class 6 8GB Micro SDHC card.
PaKo0o said:
Never knew it could be ROM related.. 0.o I'll test that. What about other normal movies, like not anime? Are they watchable ?
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I have watched many 700mb DVD-rip's using coreplayer, i use the smartphone edition on my blackstone
why not use HTC encoder to transcode the files? that way the files can be played by HTC Album/WMP and take advantage of the h.264 hardware decoder in the blackstone.
Hi,
ever since I upgraded to Rhodium I could not get proper video playback.
Basically no support for overlay.
I was/am using CorePlayer v1.3.6.Build.7427.
Qtv (Tytn II mode on) should work, but it never has. Tried all other video output options, didn't help.
Tearing is always there as is s*itty framerate. Getting ~65%/880kbps on a 1.3mbit video, mp4 avi 640x352.
Coreplayer was working perfectly on my Raphael and working good on the Kaiser.
This all happens on NRG roms (the only one I use ), currently on: Energy.RHODIUM.21903.Sense2.5.Cookie.May.22
Any ideas?
kosmarnik said:
Hi,
ever since I upgraded to Rhodium I could not get proper video playback.
Basically no support for overlay.
I was/am using CorePlayer v1.3.6.Build.7427.
Qtv (Tytn II mode on) should work, but it never has. Tried all other video output options, didn't help.
Tearing is always there as is s*itty framerate. Getting ~65%/880kbps on a 1.3mbit video, mp4 avi 640x352.
Coreplayer was working perfectly on my Raphael and working good on the Kaiser.
This all happens on NRG roms (the only one I use ), currently on: Energy.RHODIUM.21903.Sense2.5.Cookie.May.22
Any ideas?
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Known issue with TP2 and WM6.5 and above. Search the forums for more info.
Only known solution - turn off Sense when playing videos.
Try this
This cab fixed my tearing issues in Core Player.
Lightspeed said:
This cab fixed my tearing issues in Core Player.
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Thanks but in my case it didn't fix anything on the Tilt2. Framerate is still choppy until I turn off HTC Sense.
dario69 said:
Thanks but in my case it didn't fix anything on the Tilt2. Framerate is still choppy until I turn off HTC Sense.
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For me, it works sometimes. Try soft-resetting the phone
Speed Issues
Are other things slow on ur Tilt2 or is it just Media Playback perhaps you have too much stored on ur internal memory and it is slowing ur whole phone down. Just a possible solution...hope it works or hope that somehow ur problem gets fixed
I've never had this problem, except from tcmp that was cooked in... Never core player...
Sounds like a RAM problem, which would be why shutting off sense would fix this. Might need to look at all the apps you are using and disable some. Depends on whether you prefer using all the apps you have now, I disable all the tabs I don't use\need and usually have soft reset the phone a little earlier to clear the RAM.
ultramag69 said:
I've never had this problem, except from tcmp that was cooked in... Never core player...
Sounds like a RAM problem, which would be why shutting off sense would fix this. Might need to look at all the apps you are using and disable some. Depends on whether you prefer using all the apps you have now, I disable all the tabs I don't use\need and usually have soft reset the phone a little earlier to clear the RAM.
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RAM has nothing to do with it. It is related to Sense. Pure and simple. Nothing to do with apps, RAM, the video bit rates. It is Sense, WM6.5 and up, and Tilt2. I have done enough testing with both my TP2, TP, and Diamond2 to know it has everything to do with this combination. Sense on the TP2 hijacks the video drivers and unless you turn Sense off video will run choppy on Coreplayer or TCMP.
Coreplayer renders my (DVDFab Mobile mp4 ripped from DVD9) 1.87GB Avatar file ( 2 pass / 1519kbps / 29fps / 368x208 @ full screen) flawlessly on my stock ROM Tilt 2 running Sense 2.1.
Fluid, non-stuttered fast scene movements/changes with great detail tracking 100%.
It has everything to do with fine-tuning OS to have +60MB RAM free (60%) too. Of course, Coreplayer MUST be installed into main memory, not running from SD.
Something else is at fault if still having issues.
AVI container is terribly inefficient, try a pure .mp4 encoding video+audio together (PSP profiles work particularly well). Walle as same .mp4 also plays butter smooth, another tough file to lose fast panning jitters and momentary lags.
Reducing frame size greatly helps without perceptible crispness losses.
Hi
I too am having problems with playing video
on my touch Diamond 2 i just used to transferr over avi files straight from my pc with no conversion and it worked fine.
tried it with the touch pro and the video was well stuttery and unwatchable.
i am just about to load up tcmp to see if that is better
I did turn of sense but that didnt seem to make any difference.
I am also going to try the following conversions:
mp4 PSP settings
h264 original resolution
wmv
i dont really want to have convert every video but if i do what is the resolution to go for?
also i have seen people talk about adjusting the settings for core player but cant see any resolution settings on the player.
sorry to be a bit thick.
thanks in advance
Coreplayer is the best video player. For resolution I find 1/2 display 800x400 gives best compromise of detail. For example, see above post about Avatar, a particularly difficult movie due to high detail levels combined with virtually zero non-moving backrounds adding rendering complexity.
368x208 gave very good detail, full 16:9 image and allowed high frame per second and high kbps which are far more important smoothing out high-action rendering. Higher resolution is just too much to process without lags.
PM me for a sample of what a good conversion can provide, without fooling around disabling Sense, etc.
bmhome1
see the other post i did on testing players and resolutions.
I agree that the mp4 PSP (368 x 208) works well
its just a pain that i have to convert all my files (or turn off sense)
I know its a business device but it seems a bit crap when it wont play as well as the TD2
Hi all,
I broke my blackstone (Touch HD) last week and bought a used Touch Pro, so I am new to this section of XDA.
The first thing I noticed was the poor video playback using coreplayer. I never had this problem with blackstone.
I decided to install NeoS2007_Driverpack_3.cab (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496528), since it is compatible with our device and I must say it is a big improvement.
I wacthed the new A-team movie without any stutter or glitches, so for me this solution seems to work nicely. I left sense running and did nothing else to improve video playback. The file is a "regular' movie file (MPEG-4, 720x304, 25.000fps).
Hope I can be of some help.
cheers!
extra comment: I found the ram usage of stockrom and a lot of custom roms very high, but after flashing a couple I think I found a winner.... see signature. After using it for a whille, the ram usage is "only" at 45%, which is prettu descent I believe for rhodium roms. I installed the driver pack and R6-16 shortcuts and a bunch of other "crap" like changescreen to have TomTom and other programs to run in landscape, so it's no clean rom anymore.
in fairness to core player wheni played an mp4 file on it it was fine without the sense switched off - see my other post regarding the video player testings i did
I forgot to mention in my post here above that using tnyynt SD Tuneup will increase the access speed of the storage card.
You can read about it here: http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/how-to-dramatically-speed-up-your-storage-card
Install this tweak first and see how the video works. It will smoothen the playback even without NeoSdrivers installed.
Best Results (IMHO)
Original At&t Ship ROM (Winmo 6.5, Touchflo3D disabled)
Coreplayer v.1.3.6 build 7427 for ARM (Video set to Qtv)
WiMoSpeed v1.04 (Overclock set to 768Mhz)
With these settings, I was able to play a video (AVI: DIVX, 848x480, 23.976fps) with audio (mp3 48000 Hz 2 Ch, 81 kbit/s) smoothly, with no tearing.
brettzx said:
Original At&t Ship ROM (Winmo 6.5, Touchflo3D disabled)
Coreplayer v.1.3.6 build 7427 for ARM (Video set to Qtv)
MiMoSpeed v1.04 (Overclock set to 768Mhz)
With these settings, I was able to play a video (AVI: DIVX, 848x480, 23.976fps) with audio (mp3 48000 Hz 2 Ch, 81 kbit/s) smoothly, with no tearing.
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Please don't resurrect old threads for no reason.
cajunflavoredbob said:
Please don't resurrect old threads for no reason.
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Sorry CFB, but I've been looking through threads for good info on quality video playback and unfortunately this thread was one of the few that offered any useful info (as old as it was) and I figured I'd leave my 2 cents for anyone coming after me that wanted the same.