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Gents,
Is there a way to have additional tabs in Manilla with e.g. today screen from WM ?
I had PocketBreeze in my old smartphone and loved it. I'd like to have this in Touch HD without disabling Manilla.
Thanks,
Smartin
Your answer is called Second Today
Second Tab in Manilla
Hello
You can use a program called SecondToday which will allow you to have both TF3D and the normal windows Today screen.
Perform a search of this forum and you will find information as to where to get the software and how to install it.
Best Wishes
Kaid
ok guys I just got my hd a few days ago.
I had an att tilt before and used spb suite with it.
I like the look of TF3d but it is not much function.
Can any one figure out a way of incorporating spb diary into TF3d.
thanks
I too am a fan of the Spb suite. I have successly incorportated it by using SecondToday to switch to it. I used Advanced Config to reprogramme the left-hand softkey to SecondToday (I initally programmed the PDA to switch to Spb Diary when clicking on Calendar on the home-page, but found this too clumsy to use, and much prefer switching to it from the left-hand softkey).
When switching to SecondToday, click and hold on any blank part of the screen to enter set-up. I have configured this just to show Spb Diary filling the whole screen. I can access the rest of the Spb function from the right-hand softkey.
I find this whole arrangement works really well.
For Spb fans, note that the new updated Weather program also runs as a stand-alone program, and so can be accessed directly from TF3D. This provides a much more accurate forecast than the AccuWeather page.
Nikki
TouchFlo Detacher is yet another way to simultaneously have TouchFlo 3D and the regular Today screen. Previous excellent solutions include SecondToday and ManilaControl.
Description
So what makes it different? Well, this app is actually very similar to MastSogo's ManilaControl. The main difference is that the author plans to actively develop it for a while, whereas ManilaControl has been a bit frozen in development for a few months. It is also open source, licensed under the Ms-RL. The program is on CodePlex, so download speeds should be much better than the average rapidshare link. Finally, it is in English and not Spanish. Other than that, it's just another solution for the same problem!
See it in action on the YouTubes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk0xWm8PMGQ
Download the CAB and source code here: http://www.codeplex.com/TFDetacher
Installation
As explained on CodePlex...
1. Install the CAB
2. Run the configuration app
3. Enable all the standard Today Items you want to use
4. Do not re-enable TouchFlo 3D in the Today items (if you do, it will undo all your other Today plugins)
Requirements
Windows Mobile 6.1
.Net Compact Framework 2.0
A device that runs TouchFlo3D / Manila
Current features
- Free up your Today screen by hosting Manila outside of the Today screen! TouchFlo Detacher can launch/show/hide/close Manila independent of any other Today screen settings. Now you can have your TouchFlo cake and eat it too! The most obvious use is to assign a soft key to toggle between seeing TouchFlo and seeing the regular Today screen.
- Service runs as a background application (in your StartUp folder) for maximum speed when toggling Manila modes.
- NO ANNOYING SPLASH SCREEN when application launches.
- Service is 100% idle when not receiving messages or controlling TouchFlo, so no CPU is wasted! (Just a tiny bit of RAM)
- Configuration application allows modifying manila.exe location, manila window class, and more, so that this utility can (presumably) be used with other manila versions (such as TouchFlo 2D). This is untested. Out of the box, it supports TouchFlo 3D in its default configuration as seen on the Diamond/Pro/HD.
- Configuration application can clean out the ManilaActivateToday.exe from the notification queue. (That app can interefere with TouchFlo Detacher's operation.)
- Shortcuts to start/show Manila, hide Manila, and close Manila. These can be assigned to hardware buttons (if your device has them) or virtual hardware buttons through the use of 3rd party applications such as AE Button Plus.
- Configuration application can customize the softkeys in both Today and TouchFlo's Home tab. You can use it to not only assign TouchFlo Detacher operations (show/hide/close), but any other application on your device.
I want only to say many thanks for that cab it works very good on my Touch HD ... Great App cardefbel
THE best piece of software I've downloaded. Used it on both Touch Diamond and Touch HD and love it!
Perfect - thanks
Thanks for this awesome app....
Would I be correct in thinking that with your app I can go all out on WAD2 or something and still be able to switch back and forth between WAD2 and Touchflo without all the hassle?
Thanks. Downloaded, installed, and be able to switch between TF3D and my old style today with Spb Diary.
jacklam said:
Would I be correct in thinking that with your app I can go all out on WAD2 or something and still be able to switch back and forth between WAD2 and Touchflo without all the hassle?
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This is not my application, but I realy love it and would share it with y'all.
Is it also possible to have TF3D together with SPB today screen combined whit SPB mobile shell?
Hi Guys,
i add a screenshoot just to share with you the result of this great app.
i have one question, maybe someone of you have the same problem.
i am running the "non TF3D" screen with Resco today plugin and launcher.....if i try to put a background (via setting Today, use picture as background...) no matter which kind of picture i choose, they are opaque.
cant figure out a solution.
thanks and Ciao!
that app is very great. but i got ine problem that the home icon button dont's work, it just has the force feedback.
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Hi Guys,
i add a screenshoot just to share with you the result of this great app.
i have one question, maybe someone of you have the same problem.
i am running the "non TF3D" screen with Resco today plugin and launcher.....if i try to put a background (via setting Today, use picture as background...) no matter which kind of picture i choose, they are opaque.
cant figure out a solution.
thanks and Ciao!
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hey guy,
can you share with us how you achieve your today screen as you attached?
it is nice.
Sounds great, will keep an eye on this one!
giangishanghai said:
Hi Guys,
i add a screenshoot just to share with you the result of this great app.
i have one question, maybe someone of you have the same problem.
i am running the "non TF3D" screen with Resco today plugin and launcher.....if i try to put a background (via setting Today, use picture as background...) no matter which kind of picture i choose, they are opaque.
cant figure out a solution.
thanks and Ciao!
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Look at the this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468215&highlight=today+background+transparent
It solves your problem.
cardefbel said:
Look at the this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468215&highlight=today+background+transparent
It solves your problem.
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Thanks cardefbel !!!
i can tell that this is the best suggestion i have never got in this forum.
you have got the point at the first shot!!!!!! and i have my second today with a brilliant background.
of course thanks to chaosdefinesorder that playing with the device have found out the problem.
for those are asking about my second today:
Resco today plugin
Resco explorer 2008
that's it.
ciao!
Looks great!
I have tried WAD2 and Spb Mobile Shell and I like many of the things that those things bring that TF3D doesn't. I like them both, but I have not been able to break away from the TF3D which is one of the major factors I purchased the phone. Now I can have my cake and eat it too. We'll give it a shot! Thanks.
Update - I loaded it and it seems to work great. I loaded back my Spb Mobile Shell and seems to be working nicely between. It did take a few tweaks, but it is running fine. One thing however is that when I am back in TF3D my hard home key doesn't work to bring me back to the TF3D home. Any ideas?
Thanks for the program cardefbel but I am having a problem with it....notice that if I'm using the SPB screen it won't go back to TF3D after 15mins.....if I want my TF3D i need to reboot it.....but if I on the TF3D I can swap to SPB anytime.....
absolutely excellent, having my appointments on the screen with a 1 button press to TF3D is awesome
WingZer0n said:
Thanks for the program cardefbel but I am having a problem with it....notice that if I'm using the SPB screen it won't go back to TF3D after 15mins.....if I want my TF3D i need to reboot it.....but if I on the TF3D I can swap to SPB anytime.....
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Are you using SPB mobile shell or SPB pocket plus. I tried to reproduce it with SPB mobile shell, but the switching to TF3D worked for me after 15 mins.
BTW, it's not a program I wrote, found it on the net and realy liked it.
I have a problem with WEATHER page
I have started the program
il works perfectly BUT
if i go in the weather page, under TF3D, he changes automatically to today.
Any idea ????
mikeputich said:
One thing however is that when I am back in TF3D my hard home key doesn't work to bring me back to the TF3D home. Any ideas?
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Same issue here .. If anyone has a key..
I prefer to have this button for TF3D Home instead of going back to Today
Manila
No Manila
Just out of curiosity to see what you guys are using.
I personally dont use manila, with the default home screen i see everything im interested in on the main screen.
i use it and like it
now i wait for a final version of manila 2.6
wah im surprized haha,, i actually thought everyone would be using the default home screen!
Woaaaah, why would you buy an HTC device if you shut down the main reason of it? TF3D makes WM so much easier and it's the biggest reason why I bought a HTC TD2. But to answer the poll, I sometimes turn of TF3D and use the normal home screen with some plugins like SPB News, SPB Weather and SPB Wireless Monitoring.
I started off with manila in Wm6.1
But when i went to WM6.5, Titanium looked a hell lot better than the normal today screen.. and it took up a lot less resources. (I found manila to run pretty slow.. random split second halts and judders here and there)
Manila
had a BA earlier.. had winmo 6.5 with titanium on it. Now i'v switched to Blackstone..
still have the default ROM wid winmo 6.1 n manila 1.3xx version i m liking it over titanium on BA
thinking of flashing soon so that i can compare titanium and manila on my blackstone
I think manila/htc sense is not just the best UI on wm devices, but also the best UI on all phones. I think it's far better than the s-class UI on LG devices and much, much better than the touchwiz interface on samsung devices.
i do agree that it makes everything so much easier, but what kills me is the warp, like Nickch said, the split second, while scrolling from side to side, and then without u wanting it you've stopped at the music tab, and you cant go on cause the phone takes a mini time to load ur music files,.. i hope in the HD2 is much smoother!
SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 FTW
i usually install a manilla ROM but adding TFDETACHER to switch it to the classic today screen !
SPB 3 - best UI I've ever seen
Manila to me is better: I tried PointUI, SPB 3, Titanium (gastly!), standard home, widgets home and so on...
The only problem is the limited link personalization.
D'rath
I use Manilla - while it isn't as customisable as other shells, it is the most practical. You can see multiple appointments without hassle and has a favourite programs launcher =]. Another big plus is the Manilla Calendar app in v2.6 - the fact that Manilla even covers the ugly Windows Calendar app when you input a new appointment is awesome.
Tried SPB Mobile 3/3.5, but the widgets are just too ugly and i couldn't find widgets that I liked with the user-made ones
PointUI looks interesting, but i feel that it wouldn't provide /that/ much of an advantage.
Titanium is good looking and smooth, but impractical for appointments and the user-made plugins (e.g.: fav contacts, etc) are not refined enough to look that nice.
I swap quite regularly between Titanium and PointUI. I love both of them equally. I did really love TouchFLO for a long time, but found what other people have said - it's occassionaly laggy and/or slow, and sometimes doesn't even notify me of things like new texts or emails.
Looking forward to trying the latest Manila on my new HD2 next week. I reckon the 1GHz CPU should make a difference, maybe
SPB Mobile Shell 3.5
I was using Manila for couple of days and then I found SPB Mobile Shell 3.0. After this switching back to Manila (every time when I installed a new ROM), was a disappointment. Still completely faithful to SPB Mobile Shell, now in updated version 3.5
I tried them all for a while (SPB,Titanium, PointUI), forcing myself to like them, but in the end I ALWAYS go back to manila. It presents all the info nicely on the home screen, and allows a nice interface to see your sms and emails with just a tap on the slider. I love the way sms and emails appear in manila, instead of SBP using the standard windows mobile messaging thingie.
Now tf3d 2.5 or 2.6 watever it is rocks my pants off and to me is the best interface for the hd.
I love Manila 2.5, but it could be visually better with the Manila 2.1 "People" and "Email" Widgets...The cube-like slider columns and row isn't much of an eye candy! IDK..just my opinion...
I use Manila 2.5 and I have to say I'm impressed with it. I love HTC's additions to hide the base WM environment. I have tried Point UI, SPB MS 2/3/3.5 and a couple of others and the only other time I would use something that wasn't TF3D would be if I wanted simplicity and in that I would use titanium.
Manila for me wins hands down currently.
I don't like Manilla 2.5, it's just too slow. I like Manilla 2.1, which is a lot faster, but I'm sad to see that all the roms that come with manilla are full of bloatware
patcooke said:
SPB 3 - best UI I've ever seen
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I am absolutely agree with you!
I don't understand one think. I use SPB MS 3.5.3 with mod (Mtstmp - Keithdupont MS Espresso -> best mod in my opinion) and when I have X2 ROM for my Xperia there was an option "Use 3D accelerator" in SPB Settings and SPB Carousel was working very smooth but when I've switched to another ROM (Xperia UnOff) "Use 3D accelerator" dissapear from settings Maybe somebody know what is wrong? Drivers, some change in registry?
Sorry for my english
i have the same problem
It's a problem with SE software
I'm rom-chief, and have problems with 3d-enabled SBP MS. After running carousel, xperia panel manager fails to start, and hang up the device.
I think, that SPB disable 3d for compatibility reason.
If you want to enable 3D - replace file "ModelName.txt" in Windows folder, that contains "X1i", with the file, that contains some other text "Kovs100", for example, and reboot device.
SaddamRU said:
I'm rom-chief, and have problems with 3d-enabled SBP MS. After running carousel, xperia panel manager fails to start, and hang up the device.
I think, that SPB disable 3d for compatibility reason.
If you want to enable 3D - replace file "ModelName.txt" in Windows folder, that contains "X1i", with the file, that contains some other text "Kovs100", for example, and reboot device.
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But how is it done because you can't overwrite ModelName.txt the phone says?
Overwriting ROM files
Try to use Total Comander or Resco File Explorer.
Or cook you own ROM
I will try total commander.
But I doubt I will cook my own ROM.
EDIT: It worked fine using total commander and the 3D carousel is very smooth.
I have another question now, is there a way to disable/uninstall xperia panels and assign X-panel button to the carousel view?
EDIT2: Nevermind, it seems like SPB ms in 3D acc mode doesn't crash the phone using the panelmanager. I've tried going from the 3D acc carousel to panel manager and switched back and forth the differnt panels and spb 3D acc carousel, the phone doesn't hang. I'm using Christians latest rom (love your work man!) and it's using the X2 panel manager.
where can i activate 3d carousel
xudo said:
I will try total commander.
But I doubt I will cook my own ROM.
EDIT: It worked fine using total commander and the 3D carousel is very smooth.
I have another question now, is there a way to disable/uninstall xperia panels and assign X-panel button to the carousel view?
EDIT2: Nevermind, it seems like SPB ms in 3D acc mode doesn't crash the phone using the panelmanager. I've tried going from the 3D acc carousel to panel manager and switched back and forth the differnt panels and spb 3D acc carousel, the phone doesn't hang. I'm using Christians latest rom (love your work man!) and it's using the X2 panel manager.
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Ok, here's what I did.
1. Install latest Total Commander, I installed the beta version for Winmo 6.5.
link for download: http://www.ghisler.com/pocketpc.htm
2. Use Total Commander to look up "ModelName.txt" in the "Windows" folder in your phone.
3. Open ModelName.txt and change X1i/X1a to whatever you like. Save and close.
4. SPB ms will now recognize your phone as "whatever" and the alternative to anable 3D accelaration pops up in the SPB system tab.
I think if you change the model name before you install SPB ms the 3D option will be automatically on. And I can guarantee you that this works perfectly with Cristians latest Clean rom(the one with no SPB ms panel), in case you having problems with 3D acc turned on.
EDIT: Don't forget to soft reset after changing the model name.
SaddamRU said:
I'm rom-chief, and have problems with 3d-enabled SBP MS. After running carousel, xperia panel manager fails to start, and hang up the device.
I think, that SPB disable 3d for compatibility reason.
If you want to enable 3D - replace file "ModelName.txt" in Windows folder, that contains "X1i", with the file, that contains some other text "Kovs100", for example, and reboot device.
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Man, thank you so much !! It works excelent, when I changed ModelName.txt I hadn't to uninstal SPB just soft reset device and 3D option appears in settings
rioolrat said:
where can i activate 3d carousel
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Go here => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4727078&postcount=587
xudo said:
Nevermind, it seems like SPB ms in 3D acc mode doesn't crash the phone using the panelmanager. I've tried going from the 3D acc carousel to panel manager and switched back and forth the differnt panels and spb 3D acc carousel, the phone doesn't hang. I'm using Christians latest rom (love your work man!) and it's using the X2 panel manager.
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Is available working X2 panel manager ( .cab file) to install on R3AA010? Because panel manager from X1 seems doesn't work properly (like SaddamRU said) when 3D acc is ON, then I click 'X' button and phone hangs up, only soft reset is possible :/ when 3D acc is OFF then everything with 'X' button works fine
EDIT// I noticed that 'X' button hangs up device when we press it on 'Today screen' of SPB MS, so I delete panelmanager and map 'X' button to launch start menu or something
Yeah, the X2 panel manager is available to download, look in the rom section. Although I have no idea how to install it. I suppose you have to get rid of your current panel manager and I reckon it to be very well integrated since it's a cooked in thing, so it could be hard?
Well go to the rom section and ask a chef there they should know.
radzix27; Ok, that was my initial thought to deactivate the X-button till I realized I didn't have to.
I've tried these combinations which works for me:
SPB today screen -> X-button -> random panel -> X-button -> back to SPB ms.
within the 3D carousel -> x-button -> random panel -> X-button -> back to SPB ms.
within the 3D carousel -> back to SPB today screen -> x-button -> random panel -> X-button -> back to SPB ms.
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Yeah, the X2 panel manager is available to download, look in the rom section. Although I have no idea how to install it. I suppose you have to get rid of your current panel manager and I reckon it to be very well integrated since it's a cooked in thing, so it could be hard?
Well go to the rom section and ask a chef there they should know.
radzix27; Ok, that was my initial thought to deactivate the X-button till I realized I didn't have to.
I've tried these combinations which works for me:
SPB today screen -> X-button -> random panel -> X-button -> back to SPB ms.
within the 3D carousel -> x-button -> random panel -> X-button -> back to SPB ms.
within the 3D carousel -> back to SPB today screen -> x-button -> random panel -> X-button -> back to SPB ms.
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I found X2 PM in this thread and it's easy to install -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587176 but also hang up my Xperia
I didn't use panels so I decided to remap 'X' button. Now I launch start menu with it
X2 Panel Manager fails too
Yeah, I tried X2 Panel Manager too. It's hangs up after 3D in SPB.
It's seems, that this problem has no solution for now.
Ouch! X2 video driver does'nt works too.
SaddamRU said:
Yeah, I tried X2 Panel Manager too. It's hangs up after 3D in SPB.
It's seems, that this problem has no solution for now.
Ouch! X2 video driver does'nt works too.
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You're right :/ Games like Xtrakt, COD 2 doesn't work :/ So it isn't good idea to turn on 3D acceleration in SPB on our Xperia's :/
OK, so with your conclusions there is a sence of like I'm a lier. But I can ensure that SPB ms with 3D acc on combined with xperia panels wont crash the phone if you are using Christians latest clean rom.
...or my fingers are magical and well
xudo said:
OK, so with your conclusions there is a sence of like I'm a lier. But I can ensure that SPB ms with 3D acc on combined with xperia panels wont crash the phone if you are using Christians latest clean rom.
...or my fingers are magical and well
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Maybe everything works fine on WM6.5? Check Xtrakt or COD2 for be sure that 3D drivers works good
OK, I've tried Xtract and you are right the game wont start but on the other hand neither the phone or the 3D drivers have crashed. I can switch between the gold fish panel and media panel which both are 3D accelerated.
So far there is no fun 3D games for Xperia, Zenonia works that's all that matters for now. I rarely play any games on my phone so I'm fine with it.
May be SPB Bug?
It's seems to be an SPB bug.
And working panels a kind of bug too
I think, that Mobile Shell with 3D feature enabled using video driver in 3D all time.
And, with ATI X2 drivers I have 11 fps in SPB carousel, but with original drivers 60-120 fps.
By the way, does'nt mater 6.1 or 6.5 SYS you have. SPB don't work on my ROM with 21854 SYS (HTC Diamond 2).
I tried to find the file ModelName.txt in windows but there is no such file.
I have Xperia X2 fit the last stock ROM and SPB Shell 3.5.3
The option for 3D acc is not available.
What to do to have 3D?
LOL
Try to buy Xperia X1.
Or try to create file by yourself.
I do the following to avoid freezing my phone when I use SPB Mobile Shell with hardware acceleration:
I placed a shortcut to SPB Mobile Shell on my today screen and I deleted the autostart entry of SPB MS. So when I want to use SPB MS I start it by using this shortcut. If I want to use any of the panels I revert to the today screen and kill the SPB MS process using the task manager of SK Tools. Afterwards I am able to switch panels without crashing my phone.
This procedure may sound a bit complex but if you keep in mind that SPB MS uses approximately 30 MB of ram even when running in the background it makes not really sense to have it running while I use another panel. For me this is the ideal solution and I have never experienced a crash when I switch to another panel after using SPB Mobile Shell with hardware acceleration.