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Guys - this is driving me nuts - I could swear this worked before and does not anymore:
Stock ROM TMO TP2:
1 Exchange account linked
2 IMAP accounts linked
-the above as background for what it is worh and useful)
When in the TF e-mail screen where one is looking at the envelope, I think before I was able to "touch the envelope" continously (2-3 seconds) and the menu would pop up and I would be able to delete this message WITHOUT opening the actual e-mail (I basically would never leave the envelope screen)
This is not working anymore - maybe it never has, but I could swear it did in the beginning.
Could you guys please check on your phones - do I remember correctly??? Please tell meI am still sane and that there is a way to bring this functionality back...
Thanks all
Andy
If this will help you to stay sane...
My unbranded tp2 behaves same way as yours - there is no possibility to delete a mail without opening of it ;-)
Same here, had the same problem as you where I wanted to delete email without opening it or leaving the "envelope screen".. but just couldn't do it
Thanks guys - maybe we'll see a tweak for that down the road - this is a bit annoying (and slow) - the time to open a message (from envelope, TF, to Windows mobile view) is considerable.
I still somehow think this was working at some point but maybe my 3 marriages cause me to halucinate...
Cheers
I've set up my gmail account with my htc desire and can access my emails fine using the Google mail application (the one with a red M in an envelope). However, to test the push email function, I emailed myself from another account. On my pc, the email arrived instantly, but my desire didn't notify of a new message till almost 15 minutes later.
Is there a setting somewhere that i might have missed - to enable retrieval of emails as they arrive?
shaliru said:
I've set up my gmail account with my htc desire and can access my emails fine using the Google mail application (the one with a red M in an envelope). However, to test the push email function, I emailed myself from another account. On my pc, the email arrived instantly, but my desire didn't notify of a new message till almost 15 minutes later.
Is there a setting somewhere that i might have missed - to enable retrieval of emails as they arrive?
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Were you using wifi? Push is really crap over wifi on the desire, the only time I get the push email instantly is when I use mobile data instead.
I was having the same problem and think that it doesnt allow push.
I then set ot up in exchange activesync but im worried about battery life :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657065
Hope that is of some use.
EroThraX said:
Were you using wifi? Push is really crap over wifi on the desire, the only time I get the push email instantly is when I use mobile data instead.
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Yeah I always use mobile data too. I hardly ever use wifi unless I'm downloading something big to my phone such as copilot maps.
Anyway, I've set it up with activesync now and push is working flawlessly. Sometimes I get notified of emails before they even arrive on my pc.
hot-fuzz said:
I was having the same problem and think that it doesnt allow push.
I then set ot up in exchange activesync but im worried about battery life :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657065
Hope that is of some use.
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hot-fuzz, I'm gonna start tomorrow with a full charge and have active sync running all day. I'll post my findings here if I observe dramatic decrease in battery life.
got it set up on the one i am using and it seems to work just fine. Emails appear on the phone within seconds of arriving at Gmail.
I do sometimes get periods where it is a bit slower though, i think generally when in a bad signal area where i only have 2G. I'm guessing when it has lower signal or only 2G, it may slow down the checking to save battery power or bandwidth or something....
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hot-fuzz, I'm gonna start tomorrow with a full charge and have active sync running all day. I'll post my findings here if I observe dramatic decrease in battery life.
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That would be very useful. Thinking of doing it myself.
If i have mine setup for every 5 minutes thats 13 times every hour (including on the hour). I need to know if exchange polls take up more battery than checking 13 times an hour, if i get less than 13 emails an hour via exchange (which i do).
hmmmmm
Be interesting what peoples findings are on battery life and different ways to grab email.
I want to get back to the main topic.
I came from HTC Hero where Gmail push (in the gmail app) worked perfect - also on the 2.1 custom roms.
Not on the Desire it does not push the mails instantley. I don't want to go the way over the HTC Mail app...
Anyone has an idea how to fix it?
My wife and I both now have WM phones (mine is a Tilt 2, hers a Pure) and we don't want to spend money on text messages to each other, since each text message would count twice... once for her receiving and once for me sending. (on a pay per use plan it would be $0.40 each!).
I was looking for other options. Push email is o.k. but often times there can be a minute or more delay, and my early tests of push gmail are not producing any confidence that it would push reliably.
So then I was thinking IM. It looks like IM programs would be battery hogs, and have to stay running in the background, and could easily be accidentally closed. Also, when the phone goes to sleep it seems like they then switch you to "offline".
So am I missing something? What are my sms like, non sms options?
Also does anyone have any small programs that would set up a auto-soft reset on a repeating schedule, it would be great if I could start the morning with a fresh phone. Thanks.
boufa said:
My wife and I both now have WM phones (mine is a Tilt 2, hers a Pure) and we don't want to spend money on text messages to each other, since each text message would count twice... once for her receiving and once for me sending. (on a pay per use plan it would be $0.40 each!).
I was looking for other options. Push email is o.k. but often times there can be a minute or more delay, and my early tests of push gmail are not producing any confidence that it would push reliably.
So then I was thinking IM. It looks like IM programs would be battery hogs, and have to stay running in the background, and could easily be accidentally closed. Also, when the phone goes to sleep it seems like they then switch you to "offline".
So am I missing something? What are my sms like, non sms options?
Also does anyone have any small programs that would set up a auto-soft reset on a repeating schedule, it would be great if I could start the morning with a fresh phone. Thanks.
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Yes, any non-sms messaging app for your phone would obviously use data (3G or EDGE connection) to communicate, and would need to be left on all the time to be able to receive incoming messages and notify you in real-time...so battery drain would be in direct proportion to that.
The best solution I've ever seen for that is Palringo, a free IM-integrator app that can connect you through most of the common IM networks (yahoo, AIM, Google talk, etc), or just direct through it's own (if I remember correctly)...meaning that as long as you and she both have the palringo client installed, you don't necessarily have to use any of those services to be able to IM each other. It's also free, and I seem to recall that it can be set (but isn't by default) to stay connected even when the phone goes to sleep, but don't quote me on that part.
It would be great if one of these programs had a "listening" service that would run in the background and then notify you of the "call" similar to an email.
I have seen a few online, (my research has just begun) that indicates "push notifications". Sound interesting, the data connection would remain active all the time that does not bother me.
I seem to have lost the setting to switch the "x" button from close to minimize. That would solve the issue with accidental closing the program. It would have to be managed via the task manager.. no biggy.. and then if I can find a soft reset scheduler it would keep the open programs from overwhelming the phone.
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It would be great if one of these programs had a "listening" service that would run in the background and then notify you of the "call" similar to an email.
I have seen a few online, (my research has just begun) that indicates "push notifications". Sound interesting, the data connection would remain active all the time that does not bother me.
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If you'll find one, please let me know
lost the setting to switch the "x" button from close to minimize.
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it's the other way around. default for winmo is minimize, there is
an htc bundled app called taskman. it's in settings - task manager which is making apps close when you click X
plenty of other apps can change that too
and then if I can find a soft reset scheduler it would keep the open programs from overwhelming the phone.
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i made myself app doing change on backlight settings every morning and evening, I changed it for you to do reset
give it a try tell me if it's working for you and if error will pop up let me know what's it saying, at least line number
As stated! Literally 78% of battery usage. I have only just started using email on my phone! Battery was amazing up until using email. I'm on rooted 2.3.3! Could anyone help.
The stock email app blows for exchange connectivity. It constantly hangs on me (the retrieval of email that is). I find when you have an area with a flaky connection (in and out of 3g), you get these issue. With it comes battery problems I've noticed.
I use touchdown for my primary exchange account to solve the lack of incoming email, but it too has battery issues if when it goes in and out of 3g coverage. It was fine until an update earlier in the year (on my old phone, then i noticed the battery issue, still notice on the arc now).
Are you using exchange or just regular email? If you notice your battery draining quick, its probably best to do a force close on it. You should be good to go for a few more hours until it happens again and the cycle repeats. The issue has been around wince 2.1 and I'm not sure why google doesn't get around to fixing it (I'm assuming the mail app at least uses a background service by google as I had the same issue on cyanogenmod since android 2.1). Its a well known issue.
I'm sure this doesn't help, its more of a "Me too".
I hope it gets better for you.
Yea its exchange mate! What a nightmare this is! Work email too so really need to find a work-around for this! I don't seem to have the issue of incoming email, it purely seems to be the battery usage! What a shame. thank you for the speedy reply.
you could try forwarding all your email to your gmail/ googlemail account and use that instead... doesn't solve the problem of replying though.. but you would at least get instant notications of incoming mail, without screwing your battery.
I also have this problem on my Arc - Accounts: Gmail & Exchange. With use of Green Power (Battery Saver which enables data traffic only 1 minute, then 10 minutes data traffic off) this drain-problem becomes WORSE. Before Update to 2.3.3 Green Power really saves some battery, after update 2.3.3 Green Power makes the drain more.
Best solution for me atm is: use only 2G, and don´t use Battery Savers like Green Power. I have to try playing around with exchange refresh settings (Push, once per hour...)
With this my battery drain ist about 2% per hour (no wifi, no gps, no calls... Only phone idle). Not perfect, but best i can get atm...
I use moxier mail for exchange mail. It's a pretty expensive app, but works flawless for me. Maybe there are some free exchange apps too try to search the market. Moxier mail doesn't even site up in my battery usage stats.
Thanks, I will give moxier mail a try.
Hard to justify since I bought touchdown already. I've since turned off push in touchdown and set to 15 minute intervals. Not ideal, its no longer draining my battery.
I've had this same problem for a while after updating to 2.3.3, I think the general solution is to NOT use push email and rather, set a interval (15 minutes or greater).
If you're in an area with scarce connectivity, the email application apparently continues to attempt to sync even with no signal so in that case, maybe a 3rd party email client will be better. Though apparently the popular K9 mail doesn't support active sync =/
Can anyone tell me how to set up email using Moxier? I cannot get it to connect to my exchange account at all, i have tried all possible combinations. My email address is [email protected]. Can you tell me what my domain would be? (previously using stock app i used @broadfieldprimary.herts.sch.uk - this worked fine) What my server would be (using stock app, I used db3prd0204.outlook.com - and this worked fine also. But trying to use Moxier - Paid - I cannot get any connection to this email!!! I'm sorry if this is a basic question, but If anyone could explain the set up I would need I would be eternally greatful!!
I am having some weird issues with k9mail client with push mail not working consistently. Does anyone else have this problem?
Random times during the day, mails do not get pushed to me. I can't really discern a particular pattern of when it works and when it doesn't so I haven't been able to "reproduce" the problem at will. I've also turned on debugging and have been looking at the logs via aLogCat.
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Let's say I start watching the logs at 1:00pm and this was the last time anything was logged by k9mail. Then I get an email to one of my accounts at 1:10pm (I found out via desktop mail client) but this mail does not get pushed to me so I don't get notified and k9mail is still not logging anything so there's no activity by the mail client.
1:25pm comes around, which is over the 24 minute imap idle refresh time configured but I still don't see any mails being pushed to me.
Sometimes the mail finally gets pushed, sometimes it doesn't get pushed for over an hour.
Anyone else have this issue? Any suggestions?
I am currently confined to using k9mail because it allows me to reply to emails received at one account with another account without using gmail's "Send As" feature.
Thanks!
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At the times you're expecting the mail to push through, is your phone on or idle? Do you notice any discernible difference between the two?
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Yes, the phone is on but it doesn't seem to matter if it is on (screen on) or idle (screen off).
This would be the sequence of events:
1) The phone is on but screen off (idling)
2) I notice that I received an email through my desktop PC
3) Look at my phone, LED is not blinking so it has not been pushed the email
4) I turn the screen on and unlock it, still is not pushed
5) I opened up the k9mail app, still not pushed
At this point, I can turn the screen back off and eventually I would get notified but when this problem is occurring, it takes too long for the mail to get pushed to me and this problem really defeats the purpose of push mail.
Thanks for the reply!
newalker91 said:
Seems like you're not the only one with this issue. I would completely remove the application, wipe cache on the phone in recovery (power + volume up if not rooted), reinstall and set it back up. If that doesn't fix push, set it to poll every 5 minutes.
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I've definitely seen reports of this issue. Really not sure if it's the OS, phone, or k9mail.
Here's a k9mail bug that was reported that I added onto with logs:
http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/issues/detail?id=3847
If anyone else is having the same issues, please add a comment so that it get some more attention.
Could this be the same issue described in detail here?
code.google.com/p/k9mail/issues/detail?id=4347
This issue has recently appeared on my phone as well. I had been using K9 for my work email for over a year on my Evo 4G without any problems. About two months ago I picked up a Samsung SG3 (Sprint) and installed K9 on there as well, with no problems whatsoever. All of a sudden around September 5th, I started noticing that I would get my desktop notifications before my phone would receive my emails, which I couldn't recall ever happening in the entire time I had been using K9. I had not make any network changes, system changes, or anything like that. It just stopped working as it normally did one day.
Long story short, I've been having the same issue as you described in the OP. I've tried installing and uninstalling multiple versions of K9 (4.119, 4.200, 4.201, 4.304, 4.306) with the same results.
My work email is hosted by GoDaddy (yes, they are terrible) and as you can expect, I tried getting some support from them and they said that everything was working as it should. I've also tried sending the K9 devs a few emails regarding the issue along with a bunch of catlogs, but not one of them has responded to me. Oh well, it was a great app when it was working.
Oh, and for what it's worth, I had tried setting up 3 different imap email accounts on K9, my work account hosted by GoDaddy, a Gmail account, and a Yahoo account. The Yahoo and Gmail ones pushed emails immediately, whereas the work one would only push at the "refresh idle connection" intervals.