Noob Question: HardSPL and ROM - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development

Hi,
I have a CDMA diamond (flashed) but now my friend ask me to flash her GSM diamond for her.
I am fairly familiar with flashing (it's a few clicks after all).
I usually get CDMA stuff from ppc-geeks and i am fully aware that xda-developers are for GSM diamond (that's why i am here).
I have a few questions after reading a few posts and hope someone can fill in the gaps:
1. I am aware that HardSPL which only allows Oilnex signed rom seems to be a better idea. Which version i should try?
2. I am aware that there are many roms out there and each has its own pros and cons. Would anyone name a few that's closest to the stock diamond rom and name a few that's most popular?

ntony said:
Hi,
I have a CDMA diamond (flashed) but now my friend ask me to flash her GSM diamond for her.
I am fairly familiar with flashing (it's a few clicks after all).
I usually get CDMA stuff from ppc-geeks and i am fully aware that xda-developers are for GSM diamond (that's why i am here).
I have a few questions after reading a few posts and hope someone can fill in the gaps:
1. I am aware that HardSPL which only allows Oilnex signed rom seems to be a better idea. Which version i should try?
2. I am aware that there are many roms out there and each has its own pros and cons. Would anyone name a few that's closest to the stock diamond rom and name a few that's most popular?
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1. try olinex unsigned (developers) hardspl: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211 (section A, point 1)
2. u need closest to stock - try the one in my signature (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422417)
good luck!

1.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950 1.93Olinex unsigned proven to be work on any rom so far=tested by me self without any problem
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438313

The 1.93.olinex is probably the best choice because there are only a handfull of oli signed roms in existence. The non-dev version of hardspl should go the way of the dodo as people seem to rarely use it.

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Noob question - latest ROM (WWE)

Sorry for the noob question - feel free to flame away
I'm looking to upgrade my HK Diamond ROM. Is there any advantage in flashing the HK or Europe version of the ROM over each other?
Is the WWE Rom 1.37.707.1 the lastest WWE ROM available for the diamond?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401425
Thanks!
Another noob question
Had a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400411
How do I know if I'm a DIAM1400 or DIAM300 user? Is there any requirement I need to flash my ROM? (ie other software eg Hard-SPL etc).
Thanks again
funkyr said:
Sorry for the noob question - feel free to flame away
I'm looking to upgrade my HK Diamond ROM. Is there any advantage in flashing the HK or Europe version of the ROM over each other?
Is the WWE Rom 1.37.707.1 the lastest WWE ROM available for the diamond?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401425
Thanks!
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as of today the latest stock HTC WWE ROM is to be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408281
guys thanks for all the help
i now have this working despite being sure that the proxy was unchecked in the t-mobile settings.. this was not the case amongst the numerous hard resets the settings must have auto-populated
removing this has solved the problems.
my sync issues are fixed and am connecting through to hotmail and gmail too
i think i can now call my first mobile flashing a success
the benefits over the 1.34 ROM are clear and this 1.37 ROM is how the phone should operate. I will wait for the guides before looking into flashing the radio which i think will deliver more benefits
once again thanks to all
glad to hear of your success.
funkyr said:
Another noob question
Had a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400411
How do I know if I'm a DIAM1400 or DIAM300 user? Is there any requirement I need to flash my ROM? (ie other software eg Hard-SPL etc).
Thanks again
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As I know - Diamond140 - this 2G Diamond (only EDGE, no HSDPA).This Diamonds HTC sells in India. I don't know - only software (but I think yes) or soft and hardware difference
IF I'm not mistaken (correct me if I'm wrong):
Try installing HardSPL, flash with a regular 3G rom.
IF it's the same hardware, it should at least connect you via edge.
If not, you won't get any network coverage.
funkyr said:
Another noob question
Had a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400411
How do I know if I'm a DIAM1400 or DIAM300 user? Is there any requirement I need to flash my ROM? (ie other software eg Hard-SPL etc).
Thanks again
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Do a hard reset and it should be written on the boot screen if it's a diam100, 140 or 300.

Lost in a jungle of HardSPL, Roms and radios.

Hi everybody. I as probally most of u have a Diamond. I've been reading freaqently about Hardspl roms and such since it seems to make your diamond alot faster and better I would like to update/change my rom. As I understand HardSPL is usefull in the way that you can't brick your phone with rom flashing once you have HardSPL flashed. Am I right?
Then there is the choice of hardSPL. I've been looking at OliNex's unsigned 1.40 and OliNex signed 1.38. It seems signed is safer but Unsigned is more open, since you can flash any rom at all. I'm not real sure which one to get since I don't really know what rom seems most suitable for me.
I'm looking for a fast rom, ofcourse, most preferbly a swedish rom but I can survive with english as long as it's possible to get swedish (full and compact) QWERTY. Any suggestions on what rom I should use?
Then Radio I have kind of no idea what that is, can someone explain that real quick?
I guess i'm not the first of making this kindof thread, but please help a guy out. Thanks alot for all hard work so many of you put in to make the diamond more usefull!
Also it would be nice to be able to restore the diamond back to it's original spl and rom for warranty reasons. I have the vers and all written up. I've been looking at swifts rom, and duttys. Are those to recommend and what kind of HardSPL would I have to use to get either of them?
ballex said:
Also it would be nice to be able to restore the diamond back to it's original spl and rom for warranty reasons. I have the vers and all written up. I've been looking at swifts rom, and duttys. Are those to recommend and what kind of HardSPL would I have to use to get either of them?
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Read here:http://www.modmydiamond.info/

tutorial/description/info/guide

Hi everyone!
Here's the deal! I'm no noob to flashing, cooking and HardSPL as I'm positive there are plenty of users who are swimming in the same pool.
Moving from another device's forum (Trinity) to the Diamond forum is quite a shock. So many posts, so many threads.
There are so many HardSPLs. OK, no problem! But what I DO miss is a tutorial thread with nice and clear descriptions stating for instance "You will need this HardSPL for this ROM", ""You will need this HardSPL for Official ROM", "You don't need any HardSPL for Official ROM", etc.
For instance:
I'm running an old version of Radio and Official Diamond ROM (Stock), 1.00.25.03 Radio and 1.37.479.3 WWE ROM.
Bootloader version is:
Code:
DIAM100 64M
SPL-1.37.0000
MicroP-Diam (LED) v11
PSOC-Diam STAGE_PVT v0x30
I'd like to first upgrade to another Official ROM, like RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1.
No info on following:
- changing an original to another original ROM: is there need for HardSPL?
- changing a supposed EU original to an Asia original ROM: is there need for HardSPL?
- if there is need for it when upgradin ROM, which one to choose based on bootloader info?
- if there is need for it when upgradin Radio, which one to choose based on bootloader info?
etc.
I can live with my new device with stock ROM, I can tweak it, no problem.
But it is my strong belief that a detailed tutorial/description/info/guide thread could get a nice sticky.
Something that would make new users like:
"Oh, I just bought a Diamond, I read this sticky, compared my bootloader info with the ones stated in the thread, checked my ROM and Radio, checked my new ROM and Radio which I want to flash, so I need this/I don't need any HardSPL and it worked"
Yes, call it spoon-feeding, but while looking at the Forums and reading and searching, there's so much clutter some can't even find the Search button!
My two cents!
I totally agree !!! We are needing that "tutorial for dummies"
Im new to the Diamond forum too, had a tytn for ages though.
I found everything i needed to know on the wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond
Here my tuto (french version, could use a translator like google to push it in english) : http://celogeek.free.fr/2008/08/htc-diamond-rom-cuisinee-diamond-project-32/
Try it Hope can help
geistteufel said:
Here my tuto (french version, could use a translator like google to push it in english) : http://celogeek.free.fr/2008/08/htc-diamond-rom-cuisinee-diamond-project-32/
Try it Hope can help
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Yes, but still, is there any need for HardSPL when flashing to another Official HTC ROM? And is there any need for HardSPL when flashing to another issuer of the Official HTC ROM (from EU to Asia HK)?
tnyynt said:
Yes, but still, is there any need for HardSPL when flashing to another Official HTC ROM? And is there any need for HardSPL when flashing to another issuer of the Official HTC ROM (from EU to Asia HK)?
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You don't need HardSPL to flash an official ROM. If you want to be really sure then simply go to the HTC site (I used HTC Europe), register as a user, input your phone's serial number and it should tell you that you can download the 1.93 ROM. This way you can do a 100% official upgrade before deciding if you want to use a cooked ROM.
http://www.htc.com/member/login.aspx
Hope this helps
andy2111 said:
You don't need HardSPL to flash an official ROM. If you want to be really sure then simply go to the HTC site (I used HTC Europe), register as a user, input your phone's serial number and it should tell you that you can download the 1.93 ROM. This way you can do a 100% official upgrade before deciding if you want to use a cooked ROM.
http://www.htc.com/member/login.aspx
Hope this helps
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I know that, remember, I'm not a n00b.
First, I have no updates in my registered Diamond e-Club account.
Second, this is what I am talking about: You said:
You don't need HardSPL to flash an official ROM.
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Other peoples opinion:
omaga said:
You need hardspl on every one, and all are offcial roms as they were downloaded
only the rom you can download from your own HTC e-club site dont need hardspl.
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Contradictory information?
Now since I don't have any updates in my own e-Club, there's the HardSPL option with other (even Official) ROMs.
Question is: which one? (1.23, 1.24, 1.34, Developer edition, Hard-SPL-Diamond-OliNex, HardSPL_OliNex138_Signed or RUU_Signed_1_93OliNex_HSPL_UnsignedEdition).
This is crazy!
Maybe that's the difference then - perhaps ROM downloads via the e-club are treated differently, although I can't think how.
Seems that Cmonex and Olipro are the SPL experts here (I'm sure you've already seen this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400402) so maybe they're the best ones to help.
If it helps I updated to HardSLP 1.4 and ran quite happily on my stock ROM before upgrading to Dutty's ROM. I guess it's down to how adventurous/risky you want to be.
Good luck.
1. look at the next posts, i blew it on this answer..
i like my diamond with hardspl and unlocked (using the developers, unsigned hardspl). i advice you to do the same. this covers all, signed, unsigned and official ROMs.
here, an answer from THE expert:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2484533&postcount=143
2. if i convinced you to hardspl then go to the unsigned version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950.
i am using it from the beginning (2 month at least) and i flashed my diamond 4 times without any problem at all.
3.
There are so many HardSPLs. OK, no problem! But what I DO miss is a tutorial thread with nice and clear descriptions stating for instance "You will need this HardSPL for this ROM", ""You will need this HardSPL for Official ROM", "You don't need any HardSPL for Official ROM", etc.
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already there, in almost each ROM thread.
i think all cooks start their thread with the warning (hardspl first!) and a link to the recommended hardspl.
bepe is "all signed" so he never mention which hardspl.
others, for example:
dutty's choice of hardspl: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408621
[WM 6.1] NEW SWIFTBL WWE DIAMOND ROM V5.0 - CE OS 5.2.20273 (BUILD 20273 AKU 1.3.3)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2312249&postcount=2 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2412201&postcount=1first
DIAMOND PROJECT ROM Release V3.2 [WWE/GER/ITA/FRE/RUS/ESN]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408621
i wonder what happened to you.... learn from post #3!! you are a ROM cook...you are the "uber" user! we should ask you questions
I know you say if you flash an official (uncooked) ROM to your handset then you don't need SPL however I have a Vodafone branded Diamond which won't allow you to flash a non Vodafone branded ROM so I am ssuming that you still need to use SPL to go to an unbranded ROM even if it is generic HTC.
vrstu said:
I know you say if you flash an official (uncooked) ROM to your handset then you don't need SPL however I have a Vodafone branded Diamond which won't allow you to flash a non Vodafone branded ROM so I am ssuming that you still need to use SPL to go to an unbranded ROM even if it is generic HTC.
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i think you are right. never thought at this scenario.....
usually i don't buy my pda branded. no plan, no 3 years, free as a bird!
thanks for bringing it to my attention.
yeah, hard-spl to allow you to flash ROMs from other regions..
technically you shouldn't need it to 'protect' your device since its an official ROM upgrade, but then again you're trying to flash an upgrade that's not from your region so not too sure how that affects your warranty.. i would stick with hard-spl no matter what.
Although you may experience better results with certain ROMs using a certain SPL (this hasn't been clearly shown on the diamond to my knowledge) seems like the SPL is more tied to your hardware (why certain people get screen flicker and fuzzy fonts after flashing.. wrong SPL). so it stands to reason if your hardware doesn't change, you *shouldn't* have to change your SPL just cause you're flashing a new ROM
KukurikU said:
1. you don't need hardspl when you want to flash an official ROM.
if you should need one then HTC should release it with the ROM. no such thing!
HTC release official ROM "like it is" for all ppl even for the ones that never heard of hardspl. simple logic.
if you buy it branded look at the next two posts!
i like my diamond with hardspl and unlocked (using the developers, unsigned hardspl). i advice you to do the same. this covers all, signed, unsigned and official ROMs.
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I have experince now with 3 HTC devices: 1. i had Trinity with wwe rom when i bought it-> try to put it to my language (Finnish ROM) didnt work, used hardspl-> it worked
2. Polaris with wwe 6.0 rom, tried to update to the latest wm6.0 rom which was a rom from Singapore, no succes-> put hardspl in device->it worked
3. In my Diamond i put hardspl right away(after 2 hour use), so that one i didnt test at all, based on my previous experience I didnt even try to flash the official 1.93 rom witout hardspl
So at least my concution is that u must have hardspl even when you want to flash a official rom from another region. Dont offcourse no if that is a fact, just what i have experience
[/QUOTE]So at least my concution is that u must have hardspl even when you want to flash a official rom from another region. Dont offcourse no if that is a fact, just what i have experience[/QUOTE]
From my experience from the diamond, you have to flash hardspl onto your handset before you can use 'other region' roms even when it is 'official'.
I have a HK WWE handset and tried to flash my rom with the first upgrade rom from SEA, and it wouldnt flash. it would say my handset is not from the correct region.
i flashed a hard spl afterwards and it worked.
So from pak1234 experience we can make some conclusion? its the same experience I got with Polaris and Trinity
Noob Agony
Hi,
As a total recent Noob (TRN), I spent about 2 working days trying to find out where to start. In particular, the definition of HardSPL, ROM and Radio.
It was very difficult to ramp up to speed. you guys rock, seriously, but your community can thrive if you lower the gate a bit. Think about all the time you'll save in the long run by giving noobs somewhere to start. 'There are no stupid questions, only arrogant responses'. -- I read that somewhere here.
For anyone who enjoys noob-razing, come visit me and I'll stick you in with my horses. Get some payback.
A Where-To-Start sticky would help enormously.
peace.
PS - Eventually I found www.modmydiamond.info and started reading. I nearly cried when my Swiss language-locked Diamond started talking in good auld English.
bluntyeyedfool said:
Hi,
As a total recent Noob (TRN), I spent about 2 working days trying to find out where to start. In particular, the definition of HardSPL, ROM and Radio.
It was very difficult to ramp up to speed. you guys rock, seriously, but your community can thrive if you lower the gate a bit. Think about all the time you'll save in the long run by giving noobs somewhere to start. 'There are no stupid questions, only arrogant responses'. -- I read that somewhere here.
For anyone who enjoys noob-razing, come visit me and I'll stick you in with my horses. Get some payback.
A Where-To-Start sticky would help enormously.
peace.
PS - Eventually I found www.modmydiamond.info and started reading. I nearly cried when my Swiss language-locked Diamond started talking in good auld English.
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congrats on yr first successfull step (english language on yr swiss locked diamond)! perseverance and good reading skills pay back.
welcome to our forum!
from yr post i can understand that you started as an intelligent user/member of this forum (as opposed to noob) by using this forum accordingly with it's rules.
there are stupid questions. if one of the next is called by somebody "arrogant response" then he'll have to adjust or just grow elephant skin (i can name a few that already did):
1. "search, this was already posted". (most used)
2. "read the manual." (almost an insult)
3. "read wiki." (friendly, useful advice)
4. "most of the polls are useless." (no comment necessary)
5. "comparisons between any other ppc and diamond does not belong here, this a diamond only forum." (sadly not enough enforced)
a noob is not somebody with a low count of posts. a noob is somebody with a noobish attitude (total disregard of the forum's rules and it's members, wanting everything now, ready, chewed and put in his mouth).
respect the forum and it's members and you'll get respect and help beyond yr wildest dreams.
yr PS only confirm all from the above.
i prefer not to comment yr horses-payback threat
noob here
Hello all, noob here, just got my diamond via vodafone NL.
The device is sim locked contrary to what the agreement with was.
The current rom running on it makes this device incredibly slow, my brother has an p3300 which works way faster than my diamond (but does not look so nice).
This made me start looking for a solution. I've been reading this site for three full days and I'm still very confused, everything and it's contrary is written here, how is one supposed to draw a conclusion?
With that said I would like to see a well written tutorial in plain english and that does not assume the reader is a techie.
It should explain:
- How to backup the original ROM and hardSPL
- How to flash a new rom and avoid issues with screen flickering and so on
- How to restore the original ROM and hardSPL in case the device needs to be send back for repair
- Clarify what to do with radio roms
- How to unlock a device to be used with any sim card (ok this already exists, i've seen the sticky)
Thanks
One more question to be added
- Why would you need a CID and security unlocker?
I thought it was just another name for sim card lock but apparently not.
tnyynt said:
I have no updates in my registered Diamond e-Club account
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You should go to Support section of their site, that is where they post ROM updates apparently. e-Club has only ringtones.

N00b-Hardspl/Radio/Rom compatible? Right idea?

hi i am new to this scene although i have been hacking devices for several years so am not a complete N00b. I just want to know if i have got the right idea here:
I follow this guide: http://modmydiamond.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26
With this hardspl (v1.24): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408621
This Radio Rom (v1.00.25.05): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407956
And this rom: http://www.duttythroy.net/download-area.html?task=view.download&cid=149
Is this right? Will this upgrade run smoothly with these options? Also i have not yet recieved my fone, will do in the next few days, it is an Upgrade from Orange UK. Will all this run smoothly on my fone? Or does it depend upon product versions etc of the software/hardware on my fone? Its just that i have been reading around all the info and have noticed that sometimes it does matter.
Thanks for any help,
James
once u hard-spl u can flash any radio and rom. not necessarily just those two.
make sure its hard-spl DEVELOPER edition.not SIGNED edition
Yep i know that but i think those are the recommended radio and hardspl for the dutty rom i have chosen.
Thanks.
jameselder232 said:
Yep i know that but i think those are the recommended radio and hardspl for the dutty rom i have chosen.
Thanks.
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If you just want to flash Dutty's ROM, those choices are OK and will work.
I tested/used a lot of Dutty's ROM's and I can say that they are solid and decent ROM's but not the fastest (fast enough though )
Read the WIKI
There's alot of Topics on radio rom's posted in the wiki
Peace
Mike
Maybe my experience helps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430391
Hi, i dont mean to sound stupid and annoy you but can a few of you tell me which are the best roms for performance/features? I have read the wikis and guides, however there are too many different roms, and the guides do not fully explain the benefits of each one.
Thanks, i was gonna go with dutty's as i thought it was the most popular?
james

Language change

Hi all,
i was reading threads on changing roms on htc touch pro2 and i have a question that isn't answered (or i couldn't find it).
i currently have swedish language only, and i would like to change to english but i am not sure which rom can i install?
can i install any one from this link:
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893696
here is the info on the device i have:
MODEL:HTC Touch Pro2 T7373
ROM-version: 1.86.413.0(67102) SVE
ROM-date: 25.09.2009
radioversion: 4.49.25.17
protokolversion: 61.44tc.25.32U
Denao200 said:
Hi all,
i was reading threads on changing roms on htc touch pro2 and i have a question that isn't answered (or i couldn't find it).
i currently have swedish language only, and i would like to change to english but i am not sure which rom can i install?
can i install any one from this link:
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893696
here is the info on the device i have:
MODEL:HTC Touch Pro2 T7373
ROM-version: 1.86.413.0(67102) SVE
ROM-date: 25.09.2009
radioversion: 4.49.25.17
protokolversion: 61.44tc.25.32U
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You need Hard SPL first. Then you can flash any ROM in the world that is made for the GSM Rhodium.
thank you for your answer.
i successfully flashed my touch pro2 and it's working great - apart from the minor keyboard issues.
i know i need to hard SPL first, although i don't know exactly why. all i wanted to know what are the chances that i screw up my phone by installing wrong rom.
anyway, this is a great forum and i am happy to be here.
thanks to all who develop roms/radio/etc... and make tutorials
Denao200 said:
thank you for your answer.
i successfully flashed my touch pro2 and it's working great - apart from the minor keyboard issues.
i know i need to hard SPL first, although i don't know exactly why. all i wanted to know what are the chances that i screw up my phone by installing wrong rom.
anyway, this is a great forum and i am happy to be here.
thanks to all who develop roms/radio/etc... and make tutorials
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You are on the right track. The only thing you need to keep in mind is that you can only install GSM ROMs on your device. If you try to install a CDMA ROM, you run the risk of bricking it. Just don't wander into the CDMA forum, and you'll be just fine.
hi,
yes i realize that there is a difference between GSM and CDMA devices. i saw all the warnings in the rom flash tutorials
by the way, i have one more question about adobe flash.
i know that microsoft no longer supports wm6.5 and neither does adobe...
on adobe's official page the latest flash is 7.0.
is there anyone at all that is trying to develop flash 10 for wm6.5?
i think that would be awesome, so any links on this topic are more than welcome.
i would be happy to try to help develop flash 10 although my programing skills are pretty basic...
p.s. the forum looks nice on touch pro2, but it could be a bit wider.
Denao200 said:
hi,
yes i realize that there is a difference between GSM and CDMA devices. i saw all the warnings in the rom flash tutorials
by the way, i have one more question about adobe flash.
i know that microsoft no longer supports wm6.5 and neither does adobe...
on adobe's official page the latest flash is 7.0.
is there anyone at all that is trying to develop flash 10 for wm6.5?
i think that would be awesome, so any links on this topic are more than welcome.
i would be happy to try to help develop flash 10 although my programing skills are pretty basic...
p.s. the forum looks nice on touch pro2, but it could be a bit wider.
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Sorry to disappoint, but you kind of answered your own question there. MS and Adobe both dropped support for flash on WM. The only way to get flash 10 on your Rhodium is to use Android.

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