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Hey everyone,
I have some problems while I am playing with my OS.nb.
I know how to flash the phone, extract and pack the NBH. However, I am looking a way to modify/add/delete the softwares/components inside the OS.nb. I know how to add or remove a file in the OS.nb, I just cant find a way to add a software in it. (I know how to add a file, but what i mean is a "software", which is a group of files, and some registries depending on each other, how do u get all those information from a cab/exe?)
Search for the "Pandora Kitchen" or the "Core Kitchen for hermes", these will allow you do (with a little work on your part) what you need. Look specifically at the "CAB to OEM", and remember to create an initflashfiles.txt that says where each file goes.
Core kitchen is probably better if you want to do some serious cooking, whereas pandora has everything there already to include or exclude.
One word of warning though, Core Kitchen does have a couple of bugs. The only show-stopper I've found is the splash screen generator panel doesn't add the padding required for a hermes device. Not a big problem if you have HardSPL, but it will cause your first flash to hang if you use it!
If you want to replace your splash screens (by including them at the end RUU_Signed.nbh stage in Dutty's tool) then use the guide on mrvanx's site (google mrvanx).
Good luck, and remember to read the forum posts and wiki extensively, this stuff isn't easy for a reason (you are rebuilding an entire operating system).
FOREWORD:
I would like to keep this thread EXPLICITLY for people who want to learn how to MANUALLY cook and the questions surrounding the topic.
If you are a "GOD MODE" and you are more interested in insulting people for trying to learn DONT read this thread
n00bs DO YOUR RESEARCH!! - See links in my Signature and at the bottom of my second post
If you are answering a question PLEASE answer it fully and as simply as possible.
WELCOME TO ROMDonalds!!!!!!!!!
This kitchen is designed for those users, like me, who have been using their devices for a while and want to learn the methodologies behind hand cooking a ROM. By hand cooking I mean manually adding OEM software, adding CAB’s so they don’t have to be installed after flashing, hand editing registry hives and such like.
Don’t get me wrong GUI kitchens are excellent but, to fully understand the processes that go on behind cooking your own ROM,I feel that it should be done manually so you can see and hopefully understand what happens at each stage, so you could say that this is more of an educational kitchen.
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How It Works
There are various stages to cooking a ROM, so when you run “ROMDonalds.exe” you will find a group of files, ordered by number, logically, you start at number 1, and follow the process through to completion.
After running “ROMDonalds.exe” you will find a new folder on your desktop called “ROM Donalds” this is your kitchen.
Inside each of these files are all the various pieces of software you will need to complete that particular stage of the process in addition to this there is an instruction manual that walks you through each step, with background information on what is happening not just the required steps.
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The Kitchen Software
All of the software in this kitchen is available in other kitchens in various forms, some of the software has been slightly edited from original form but not by much, so I do not profess to having produced some revolutionary cooking software as it all currently exists.
The difference is that instead of having a folder full of tools with strange looking names, which would be intimidating and confusing to a new user, everything is sectioned out with instructions.
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Thanks:
Special Thanks to Midget_1990 for helping with the software
Thanks to all those who originally designed the softwares used in this kitchen, namely:
Tadzio - for his tools
bepe - for his tools
the-equinoxe - Splash Screen Tools
dutty - NBH Tool
also thanks to anyone I forgot (sorry about that!)
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Disclaimer
I accept no responsibility for devices getting screwed!!
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Download Links :
In the second post of this thread you will find all the required download links, patches and Instruction Manuals, detailed as follows:
ROMDonalds Kitchen : This is your base kitchen
Animated Startup Screens : A pack of various animated startup screens
Selection Of OEM Apps: A large selection of pre-created OEM packages ready for cooking
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Download Links
Release Notes :
1) If you find any errors with the instructions please detail them in the thread, but also PM me with the error and necessary changes so I can update the "How To Cook.pdf"
2) This has been tested as much as possible on Vista and XP and fully works on both (for me!!)
3) Section in "How To Cook.pdf" on converting CAB to OEM needs refining, if you are new to this ignore the section and just use the OEM apps i have included until i make this section better
4) There is a folder in ROMDonalds called "09-AdvancedTools" . . some may asy why... the answer is that these "Advanced Tools" are the most useful ones i have found in my travels while creating this kitchen, I have not written about each one in the "How To Cook.pdf" but i may in the future. If you need help with these ask in the thread and i will update my first 2 posts accordingly.
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Instructions
1) Download at least the following: Instructions, ROMDonalds Kitchen, Selection Of OEM Apps (Animated Startup Screens are just an extra if you want them!!)
2) Extract "ROMDonalds.rar" then RUN "ROMDonalds.exe"
3) Extract "Selection Of OEM Apps"
4) READ INSTRUCTIONS SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY
5) Enjoy
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Download Links
Instruction Manual:
Sendspace - Last Updated : 29/07/07
Megaupload - Last Updated : 29/07/07
Rapidshare - Last Updated : 29/07/07
ROMDonalds Kitchen :
Whats Been Updated? - Advanced Tools Section Updated, initFlashFile Generator FIXED
Sendspace - Last Updated : 01/08/07
Megaupload - Last Updated : 01/08/07
Rapidshare - Last Updated : 01/08/07
Animated Startup Screens :
Sendspace - Last Updated : 28/07/07
Megaupload - Last Updated : 28/07/07
Rapidshare - Last Updated : 28/07/07
Selection Of OEM Apps :
Sendspace - Last Updated : 28/07/07
Megaupload - Last Updated : 28/07/07
Rapidshare - Last Updated : 28/07/07
Other Useful Links :
Available Radio ROMs : Click Here
2.10.Olipro (HardSPL v7) : Click Here
Hermes Upgrade Guide (mrvanx) : Click Here
Hermes Wiki : Click Here
Google Search Forums : Click Here
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Attached Files
Notepad 2.zip This is a better text editor then notepad!
FOR BATTERY ICONS CHECK THIS THREAD
NEW THEMES PACK
NEW PACKAGE CREATOR:
Instructions
1: run the package creator
2: select open CAB and direct it at your CAB
3: When Cab Analyzer comes up, select extract (the icon 3 to the left of the folder icon with "MSCE" undernearth it) THis will open up the "extract" windows, you will notice that it is already pointing at a folder in your C:\XXXXX (XXXX will be the name of the CAB) you MUST extract it to this directory (it is only a temp and it will be moved to desktop in abit)
4: once extracted close the CAB manager, then the initflashfiles tab will open in the package creator. Select "enable options" then select your CUSTOM shortcuts (the initflashfiles.txt will already have the intended shortcuts in it, these are extra ones if you want any) when you have finished here press apply and done
5: set name for the option.xml and the section you want it to show in, then press complete package. On your desktop now you will find your package!
hope you like it, it is really fast once you get used to it!!
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First to say you thank you. I was waiting for this. Great work Man.
hi - I like the name , i too believe in alot of manual cooking because i feel its the best way to learn. I use most of your tools and also htc rom tool by dark simpson. I'll have a look at your animated startup screens - been looking for those.
well done mate you deserved it. although i busy with my new toy in my sig I will give your kitchen a try to see what i can dish up for myself.
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well done mate you deserved it. although i busy with my new toy in my sig I will give your kitchen a try to see what i can dish up for myself.
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You will find the kitchen very familiar, it has nothing you wont have used already!! (although you may want to look at the advanced tools folder!!)
i would really appreciate it if you could cook and follow my instructions just to see in there are any obvious mistakes (Other than spelling & grammar!!)
Thanks alot
Great work man... will give it a spin later. Thanks
Nice work mate
Cooking for the masses eh, do you have a "drive through"
benec,
The combined clean battery and 3G icon cab does not work. I get a message saying that i dont have permissions to install that cab.
Trying to overrite the dll file into window also has the same effect
etreby71 said:
benec,
The combined clean battery and 3G icon cab does not work. I get a message saying that i dont have permissions to install that cab.
Trying to overrite the dll file into window also has the same effect
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ok, i hadnt tested that, sorry about that, ill see if it can be fixed!!
The pdf says to run the powertoys program that is in the ROM tools folder, where is the rom tools folder?
sprice82 said:
The pdf says to run the powertoys program that is in the ROM tools folder, where is the rom tools folder?
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appologies: it should read:
XP [FONT="]users run “CmdHerePowertoySetup - XP.exe” this is found in the “ROMDonalds” folder.
Instructions Download Links Updated 29/07/07 [/FONT]
This is great, easy to digest information, great work piecing all this together and writing the pdf.
One thing I must say is I very much do enjoy the use of the visual package selection method, manualley cooking in the cabs is great but being able to check a box next to what I want is always a plus.
twist said:
This is great, easy to digest information, great work piecing all this together and writing the pdf.
One thing I must say is I very much do enjoy the use of the visual package selection method, manualley cooking in the cabs is great but being able to check a box next to what I want is always a plus.
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I like GUI cooking too, please dnt think i am belitteling other Kitchen designers!
MY problem's with the GUI cooking method are:
1) YOU DONT LEARN ANYTHING - THE MOST IMPORTANT PART - THE IDEA OF THIS KITCHEN IS TO TEACH PEOPLE WHAT GOES ON WHEN COOKING
2) its lazy, as the install screen of ROMDonalds says "Getting Something Is Good, Doing It Yourself Is Better!!!" (im not saying its not a great idea that people can customise their own ROMs that fast, and have whatever they want included)
3) its hard to modify an already cooked rom (i.e. Black Satin on Pandora)
4) its not guaranteed to work, stupid errors thrown up with no option to fix
5) if you cant change the base ROM you are stuck with it, also what you think is a good base, someone else may say sucks and visa versa
6) there is way more OEM software about than CAB's so if you manually cook, you are not restricted by what is included int he kitchen
I created a kitchen like this so i could learn in the way I WANTED to learn, not with some of the hap-hazard instructions there are available.
I found that through using the instructions i have published i have learned alot about the stages of cooking, so now, when i look at other kitchens, and it tells me to "Dump Rom" or "extract XIP" etc, i know wats going on!!
(also when errors in the GUI kitchens come up, i have a MUCH better understanding of where and why the error has occured!!)
I hope people find it as usefull as i have!
I love this kitchen I have allready learned TONS from it, I am just saying it would be nice to be able to use this kitchen AND be able to use a GUI for adding more packages as well.
But I completly understand your thinking and I definently have allready learned alot!!!
And again I appreciate your taking the time to put this together with a great PDF walkthru.
I am also wondering if there is anyway to delete something from the windows dir after it has been copied elsewhere ? or if you can move files instead of copying them. I am looking to cooking in Opera and it requires a few files in a few diffrent dirs and I would hate to have copies of these files in the windows dir and the dirs they are suppost to be in.
twist said:
I love this kitchen I have allready learned TONS from it, I am just saying it would be nice to be able to use this kitchen AND be able to use a GUI for adding more packages as well.
But I completly understand your thinking and I definently have allready learned alot!!!
And again I appreciate your taking the time to put this together with a great PDF walkthru.
I am also wondering if there is anyway to delete something from the windows dir after it has been copied elsewhere ? or if you can move files instead of copying them. I am looking to cooking in Opera and it requires a few files in a few diffrent dirs and I would hate to have copies of these files in the windows dir and the dirs they are suppost to be in.
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you mean to create 1 folder called "Opera" and have all of the dir's and files for Opera inside that folder so you can drop it into the windows dir on a dumped ROM?
this can be done altho im not sure how, i want to include this into my instructions but as i said im not sure on how to go about it, JJ did it with some of the black ROMs, Satin definately.
only thing i can suggest is to dump SATIN and see how JJ did it!!
If you find anything please post it here so i can include it, and ill do the same.
Unable to find default.hv & user.hv in dump folder and a couple other questions
Hello Bennec83,
Thanks for the informative kitchen tools!! I am hoping to create a custom made ROM from these tools.
Question:
I have dumped the recently released Dopod ROM without difficulty and am now at the stage (stage C before C.1) of finding the two files in the dump folder: default.hv and user.hv ...I performed a search and then manually looked for the files without success. I have followed the format for dumping and I may be missing something but these files are not appearing...Any suggestions??
Also, if I wanted to delete say windows auto update or other folders in this ROM without creating a conflict, this dumping section would be the appropriate area, correct?? I guess this is the part where trial and error occurs...correct? I am trying to maximize storage space without conflicts.
Thanks so much for your time,
vjgrace
bennec83
GREAT work m8! Just read your cooking instructions and they are superb. I haven't tried the kitchen yet, but from what I read it is pretty straight forward and very well explained !
Thanks for creating this, I will test in the following days and let you know of my experience
Again, great work and keep us posted of any changes...
Twist in regards to cooking in opera - there is no way to delete the files after they are copied out of the rom. I know it seems wasteful but that is the way it is. Most cooks hence keep the inclusion of this type of app down to a minimum because of storage space. Would recommend compression of opera.exe to use less storage memory - and find the oem package so you can use the rgu and initflashfiles.txt from there to make life easier.
vjgrace said:
Hello Bennec83,
Thanks for the informative kitchen tools!! I am hoping to create a custom made ROM from these tools.
Question:
I have dumped the recently released Dopod ROM without difficulty and am now at the stage (stage C before C.1) of finding the two files in the dump folder: default.hv and user.hv ...I performed a search and then manually looked for the files without success. I have followed the format for dumping and I may be missing something but these files are not appearing...Any suggestions??
Also, if I wanted to delete say windows auto update or other folders in this ROM without creating a conflict, this dumping section would be the appropriate area, correct?? I guess this is the part where trial and error occurs...correct? I am trying to maximize storage space without conflicts.
Thanks so much for your time,
vjgrace
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HI,
default.hv and user.hv are a pain in the arse to find, you need to change the folder options so you can "show hidden files and folders" AND uncheck "hide protected operating system files" (see screenshot)
then the next thing i do is order everything by type, then scroll down to "HV File" and you will find them both
with regards to your second question, this is about dumping and cooking a ROM.
a ROM is originally compiled from an operating system, to change features inside the OS you need to dump the ROM differently as this kitchen (at the moment) is only for adding and removing APPs and tweaks.
To do what you want you need to get the "SYS" "OEM" and "XIP" folders from your ROM, swap them into a different kitchen (one that allows you to run something called "BuildOS.exe" )
I will be releasing one here, but the first thing to do before you start messing with the OS of your phone, is to get used to doing the methods in this kitchen.
It is my Birthday today, so i cannot put together a "BuildOS" package and instructions today but I will, soon!!
hope this helps
To the Rom chefs out there (btw you guys are the greatest), how difficult would it be to flash a kaiser rom on to a hermes? Would it be impossible or feasible? The reason I ask is that I am intrested in the software features of the kaiser but it will not be available in the states for a while (and my company may not upgrade for a while). I'm not sure how similar devices handle roms but if I could get a hermes with touchflo, built in improved home and com managers, and an app to recognize business cards... well that would rock. Just an idea I would appreciate any feedback.
Itz not difficult... only question is... does it work???
I would love to see that, but that is a hell of a question "Will it work?"!
Here is a short answer for you... HELL NO but if you like try it and then send me your bricked hermes!
Won't work out of the box, but you can extract whatever you want and cook it into your own ROM, using one of existing Hermes ROMs as a base.
Would it be possible to switch out the touch.dll file with the one from the kaiser to try to get touchflo working on the hermes (I'm comfertable setting up the business card recognizer through a cab)?
ok we need members that have created there own cooked roms to give us reallistic insight on how to pull this of?
Cooking a rom
leoiden said:
ok we need members that have created there own cooked roms to give us reallistic insight on how to pull this of?
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i take no credit for this, i am a noob loke you all, i myself like the att base that i get from vp3G you exrtact the base using romdonalds, you can cook with it to, but i cant understand it, i need to take more time. however i take the base and use it with pandora's build os, i also put added stuff in the pandora with Bennec83's instructions.
any spelling mistakes you find, suck it. i have been up since 4am and i need to get up at 4 again
ROMDonalds Kitchen v1.0 - The Educational Kitchen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319970&highlight=romdonalds
vp3G's WM6 v3.0 -- [The official "official" AT&T ROM]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317952&highlight=vp3G
Pandora Kitchen - v6.0 Build it YOUR way [updated 08/13/07 @ 14:19]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316881&highlight=pandora
Bennec83's cab-oem
1: Download CAB Manager from Rapidshare or Megaupload
2: Unpack the CABManager.exe and run it
3: Drop your CAB into CAB manager
4: Extract all the files in the CAB, to do this click the icon 3left from the XML button (It has SEL in small letters at the top of the button) LEAVE THE CABManager.exe RUNNING AS YOU WILL NEED IT FOR STEP 10
5: Go into the folder that you extracted your CAB to, there will be an *.inf (* = Name of the CAB), delete it as it is not needed
6: There will also be another folder inside the directory where you extracted the CAB, this will probably be called "Windows" or "Program Files"
These files contain all the files that are supposed to be in each directory on your device. i.e. all files in "Program Files" will get installed to the "Program Files" on your device when you install the CAB.
Never-the-less, these directories are not needed as we want all the files in the same folder, so copy the contents of each folder, into the folder where you extracted the CAB, do this for all folders that were extracted from the CAB
7: Go Here To Generate A GUID. Set it to "Version 4:Random" and press "Get" (It should look something like this - 21f768ec-4901-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66 - I will Note it as <GUID> instead of loads of numbers for ease of typing)
8: Go into the folder you extracted your CAB to, with all the files out of their directories, create TWO new text files.
For the FIRST text file: name it with the GUID you just generated in step 7 and change the file extension from "<GUID>.txt" to "<GUID>.dsm", press yes to the "Change File Extension" Warning
For the SECOND text file: give it the SAME GUID as above, but change the extension from "<GUID>.txt" to "<GUID>.rgu", press yes to the "Change File Extension" Warning
9: OPEN the "<GUID>.rgu" and select "SAVE AS.." select "UNICODE" (Default is ANSI), then go to the "Save as Type" Menu and select "All Files" and select your "<GUID>.rgu" and select "Yes" to the "Are you Sure You Want To Replace" warning
10: Go back to CABManager.exe and select the "XML" button, and a new window will pop up. In the new window select the tab "Registry Keys"
This will show you all of the REG Keys related to that CAB (If there are any, sometimes the software doesn’t need any so there will be nothing here!!)
Assuming that there are REG Keys, copy them all into the "<GUID>.rgu" and save it, REMEMBER TO SAVE AS "UNICODE"
Next you MUST make sure that the following is in the "<GUID>.rgu"
A: TOP LINE MUST say "REGEDIT4" (no ""), followed by a blank line, eg to follow:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Customize]
"Ver" = "1.0"
this must change to:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Customize]
"Ver" = "1.0"
B: Go to the end of the "<GUID>.rgu" and ensure that after the last line of text there is another blank line
AFTER you have edited the "<GUID>.rgu" with the correct things, SAVE IT AS "UNICODE"
11: 1: Download this "option.xml" from Rapidshare or SendSpace
Open the "option.xml" and edit the bits that need editing.
you will see what I mean, as I have created the option.xml to be self explanatory!!!
I hope this helps, if you have any questions PM me
OEM folder of HTC rom here: form pof
Kaiser dump thread
http://rapidshare.com/files/42085076/KAISER_OEM.7z.html
P.S. i would live to see the apps ported but when i try to cook even known stuff i get errors and discuraged so i stop
i am on vp3G's Vir. 3.0 it is what i need until someone puts something i can use up.
thanks to the cooks, and things that make you say huummmm
In case somebody is searching the cab-manager now ;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317358
Jesus, do none of you read anything any more? I don't like "n00b" bashing but when there's so many of you who have obviously read absolutely f*** all, then I'm thinking you're all fair game.
There are already LOTS of threads about ROMs with the Kaiser comm manager, dialler etc built in - there's been god knows how many attempts to get touchflo working, cooking in kaiser's touch.dll, hacking the old one, creating new ones, all about why you can't flash another device's ROM on to a hermes - mulitple threads about every damn thing you've been talking about, some of them not even that far away from the front page and none of you have taken the effort to have a look.
FFS, it's like painting a target on your back and going for a walk on a shooting range...
LOL......nicely said Smiffy
It's kinda like "the blind leading the deaf and stupid"....every time a new device hits the shelves, hoards of wombats want everything it has to offer on their old technology...arrgghhh!!!
Mark.
PS. Do you think I could flash the Kaiser ROM onto my Voyager....
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FFS, it's like painting a target on your back and going for a walk on a shooting range...
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best statement of the year award!
leoiden said:
ok we need members that have created there own cooked roms to give us reallistic insight on how to pull this of?
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Here is some insite! IT cant be done! you can take certain apps and features from the kiaser rom which has been done many many times if you search for kiaser im sure you will find the home plug in the dail pad and the com manger and im sure some other things but here is a little hint you cant port the touchflow many have tried and come close but it just wont work yet! you can not flash another devices rom to the hermes sorry just wont work.
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Jesus, do none of you read anything any more? I don't like "n00b" bashing but when there's so many of you who have obviously read absolutely f*** all, then I'm thinking you're all fair game.
There are already LOTS of threads about ROMs with the Kaiser comm manager, dialler etc built in - there's been god knows how many attempts to get touchflo working, cooking in kaiser's touch.dll, hacking the old one, creating new ones, all about why you can't flash another device's ROM on to a hermes - mulitple threads about every damn thing you've been talking about, some of them not even that far away from the front page and none of you have taken the effort to have a look.
FFS, it's like painting a target on your back and going for a walk on a shooting range...
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But seriously, if I cant flash the Kaiser Rom to my Tytn, can I port it into i-phone. Then I won't have any communication devices to post stupid questions again
I hear what you are saying, I actually run a tweaked out Hermes with HTC home (latest version from shen) dialer (older version I don't like the 3g video dialer) and com manager (10 button kaiser) though I use the offical att rom as my base. I have read the threads EXTENSIVELY both here and on other sites 4windows mobile tri-syndicate etc.(Stuff by JJ, Custel, etc.) I've even played with the Touchflo Alpha cab. My question was if it would be possible to take the whole kaiser rom (as opposed to extracting portions of it and loading them into one of the hermes roms) and load it on to a hermes, mainly because the issue (from what I have read) with touchflo is the touch.dll file and how it functions (wizard, kaiser, and elf similar, heremes is different) and this dead ends most projects. I was thinking that perhaps flashing the whole ROM might get around this (basically try to run a kaiser on a hermes, I was hoping that the devices were similar enough it might work). I guess the answer is no. The other thought I had was that perhaps the new offical release might be easier to work with (and the business card app is pretty sweet). I am somewhat technical but not a developer (though I work for for a large development firm) perhaps I misunderstood how a rom works and flashing the entire thing will not be posible nor will it solve any of the issues the chefs have been running into. It was just an idea.
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I hear what you are saying, I actually run a tweaked out Hermes with HTC home (latest version from shen) dialer (older version I don't like the 3g video dialer) and com manager (10 button kaiser) though I use the offical att rom as my base. I have read the threads EXTENSIVELY both here and on other sites 4windows mobile tri-syndicate etc.(Stuff by JJ, Custel, etc.) I've even played with the Touchflo Alpha cab. My question was if it would be possible to take the whole kaiser rom (as opposed to extracting portions of it and loading them into one of the hermes roms) and load it on to a hermes, mainly because the issue (from what I have read) with touchflo is the touch.dll file and how it functions (wizard, kaiser, and elf similar, heremes is different) and this dead ends most projects. I was thinking that perhaps flashing the whole ROM might get around this (basically try to run a kaiser on a hermes, I was hoping that the devices were similar enough it might work). I guess the answer is no. The other thought I had was that perhaps the new offical release might be easier to work with (and the business card app is pretty sweet). I am somewhat technical but not a developer (though I work for for a large development firm) perhaps I misunderstood how a rom works and flashing the entire thing will not be posible nor will it solve any of the issues the chefs have been running into. It was just an idea.
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Touch.dll on a kaiser wun work on hermes... Datz the problem
If at first you don't succeed then make the target BIGGER!
What was that that LordSmiff said? It was sooo long, I couldn't read the whole thing.
Oh never mind. I forgot, I wouldn't bother reading your answer, either.
Can somebody pleeeeaaaasssseee make a video of alll this stuff on the forum. I can watch TV ok.
Anyway ... I just pre-ordered my Kaiser. Is there any way to flash my Hermes ROM onto it so I don't need to learn anything new?
Puuullllleeeeaaasssse help me!!!
Oh, and my keyboard makes a ? whenever I type a *. Haven't seen anything mentioned about this problem here.
-pvs
pvs said:
Oh, and my keyboard makes a ? whenever I type a *. Haven't seen anything mentioned about this problem here.
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I had this problem. Use HTCustom and go all the way over to the "keyboard" tab and choose the correct one (I have AT&T/Cingular, so I chose that).
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I had this problem. Use HTCustom and go all the way over to the "keyboard" tab and choose the correct one (I have AT&T/Cingular, so I chose that).
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Ummmm ... I was being a little sarcastic. Yes, I know ... it's just one of the questions that's been posted a few thousand times already ... probably will be again tomorrow.
Thanks for answering, though.
-pvs
Just start kit. For further cooking.
Based at official release (and stable, I hope,- don't like to be beta-tester for HTC "in the dark").
It's new way for me (just began to use WinMob by Diamond), so don't bite me too much
Don't forget about Hard-SPL!
Few cosmetic changes & a little tweaked. UC ready.
In OEM left TouchFlo only.
In SYS out: OneNote, PowerPoint, WindowsLive, Help & other rubbish.
In "Install" folder - example only. You can change it to your own provider (look to OEM\CONNECTIONSETUPDB - password I found at XDA) or just use ConnectionSetup.
The most tweaks - in OEM\xxxconfig
Be careful to finish.xml - it's important file!
(return to "Internal Storage". Manila start including in this file too. You can customise it up to you. Same as *.rgu in this folder)
To find the bugs&errors better together, I think
Ideas&remarks - welcome!
It's OPEN PROJECT.
Kitchen: http://rapidshare.com/files/143594363/WWE_1.93.479.3_kitchen.zip
Example ROM (with pass for provision.zip):
http://rapidshare.com/files/143600258/1.93.19965.Light.rar
For make the same - just press !COOK.CMD in the kitchen.
Lighted packages:
http://rapidshare.com/files/144298572/PACKAGE_Diamond_PhoneCanvas.RAR
http://rapidshare.com/files/144138802/PACKAGE_Diamond_QuickGPS.RAR
The trick - in change heavy bmp files to compressed/indexed png.
And patched dll/exe, for use another files.
Not sure about using system resources in this way - up to you. Try.
Changes: http://rapidshare.com/files/144298443/changes_to_kitchen.rar
(Corrected ROM container: 19965 now. Was 20273 - just mistake. And help engine)
can I just install your rom on my Diamond?
Would like to try it, but dont want to fool around with the Kichen stuff
Been reading much on cooking the last days. This looks like a good start!
Thanks for sharing. Hope I can create my own Diamond ROM from here. If it's good enough for some of my friends I will share it on XDA as well
teddyen66 said:
can I just install your rom on my Diamond?
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Not see the reason - only base functions.
You are right, but it's the fastest ROM I've ever tried
But like you said, it's very basic. Camera is not working, so you need to add all these yourself.
Now watching the kitchen files.. .."WinRAR gives the following message: Invalid or corrupt authenticity information"
It does seem to extract just normal. Is the RAR file save?
update: You might even remove the Office part from the light ROM??
mccune said:
Now watching the kitchen files.. .."WinRAR gives the following message: Invalid or corrupt authenticity information"
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Hm. "Top" level - zip. Inside - rar. Going to try download back. May be corrupted...
No, everything OK to archive.
I use rar v.3.71
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You might even remove the Office part from the light ROM??
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Word & Excel till alive
mccune said:
You are right, but it's the fastest ROM I've ever tried
Now watching the kitchen files.. .."WinRAR gives the following message: Invalid or corrupt authenticity information"
It does seem to extract just normal. Is the RAR file save?
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Its 7-Zip i think extracts ok
I will give this a try, other kitchens didn't work out for me very well.
Thanks man ...
Help system
I think idea to remove the help system absolutely is not the best.
Sometimes apps need it for normal work. May keep help engine alive?
Any opinions?
Please tell me one usefull hint that's provided to you because of the Help function?
For me it's wasted space on every device I've owned. If I encounter any problem they go beyond the help files
Looks pretty complicated with no real guide, will look into other kitchens!
I talk about engine (hwhelp) only. The most help files - "dead cargo", of course.
After try to push "help" button at some apps - error, could make system unstable.
P.S. made two "light" packages. ( see in the first post).
It use a little less memory, I hope.
Congratulations for this new project! If you need any help about a multilanguage (Italian) version... I'm ready!
sev7en said:
Congratulations for this new project! If you need any help about a multilanguage (Italian) version... I'm ready!
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Thanks for support
I think, change the locale - it's only change the *.mui & may be other files in folders *_0409. Change to Italian locale - _0***, don't know exactly.
Could you try it?
Found the mistake - "alien" rom container (from 20273) in the kitchen.
Just accident.
May be it's nothing, but...
- in the first post + hwhelp.exe: changes_to_kitchen.rar
Tricks
Stop unused services (functional don't loose) - will start on demand:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\BTAGSVC]
"Flags"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\BthAsPlugin]
"Flags"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\BTHIDSVC]
"Flags"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\OBEX]
"Flags"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\QuickGPS]
"Flags"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\WirelessService]
"Flags"=dword:00000004
It's THE SAMPLE. (but I use it)
May stop any more? Biotouch, for example?
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Start HTCVolumeControl.dll without taskmanager, or if you use another TM:
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\Services\HTCVOLUME]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\HTCVOLUME]
"Dll"="HTCVolumeControl.dll"
"Order"=dword:0000000c
"Index"=dword:00000000
"Info"=dword:00000000
"Prefix"="VOL"
Tested on Raphael VolumeControl
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Somebody can explain how to (EXACTLY! step by step) change OS, XIP, SYS in this kitchen? I've read a lot of tutorial but I didn't understand how...
In example, I've got:
1) this kitchen and this "base" rom
2) another diamond rom with 20748 xip build.
If I would to update OS, XIP and SYS to newer, what I have to do?!
GriFolle said:
Somebody can explain how to (EXACTLY! step by step) change OS, XIP, SYS in this kitchen? I've read a lot of tutorial but I didn't understand how...
In example, I've got:
1) this kitchen and this "base" rom
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You don't neet "base" rom (or what you mean?) it's example only.
If you talk about rom\os.nb in the kitchen - it's just container for rom, which is empty.
GriFolle said:
2) another diamond rom with 20748 xip build.
If I would to update OS, XIP and SYS to newer, what I have to do?!
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Just delete oem, rom, sys & make you own "tree"
Thanks for your very QUICK reply Modilv!
So, I have just to take the parts of (maybe more) diamond romS that I need (including OS.nb??) and put theme in your kitchen..?
So simple?!
PS: no "porting" xip or something like that?
TIA
It't not "my" kitchen (just add bepe's utility to final step)
I made the "tree" only.
You can do the same.
First thx for helping me
I was trying to port a XIP from Touch Cruise
Yet it cant even boot in the system [only suck at the screen with the red words at the bottom]
Any clear tutorial for me. Thank you
You cannot just use the XIP from another phone.
You must get the XIP split into OEMXIPKernel and MSXIPKernel so that you can combine the new MSXIP with your existing Trinity OEMXIP.
And most of the time you would need to use the new build's SYS packages that go along with that new MSXIP.
What kitchen are using? Ervius Visual Kitchen?
the.decoy said:
You cannot just use the XIP from another phone.
You must get the XIP split into OEMXIPKernel and MSXIPKernel so that you can combine the new MSXIP with your existing Trinity OEMXIP.
And most of the time you would need to use the new build's SYS packages that go along with that new MSXIP.
What kitchen are using? Ervius Visual Kitchen?
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Yes i am using Ervius Visual Kitchen
What i do is using the xipporterex to port the xip.
I even tried to follow the bepe tutorial from darkforceteam with bepe kitchen.
Yet same error occured.
Would u mind giving me a clear step for making it workable?
thx
Sorry but I have always used pre-extracted XIP/SYS bundles from people like Da_G that I then put into my kitchen. So I am not sure I can give you a full step through for porting the TC xip/sys from scratch.
One thing about the OEMXIP though, whenever I have used xipporterex I usually discard the generated ROM\Trinity\NEWBUILD# and replace it with a copy of my existing ROM\Trinity\OLDBUILD# (I just rename the folder to the new build number). It is just the ported ROM\Shared\NEWBUILD# folder that you want.
Again, you are also using the SYS\NEWBUILD# folder aren't you?
the.decoy said:
Sorry but I have always used pre-extracted XIP/SYS bundles from people like Da_G that I then put into my kitchen. So I am not sure I can give you a full step through for porting the TC xip/sys from scratch.
One thing about the OEMXIP though, whenever I have used xipporterex I usually discard the generated ROM\Trinity\NEWBUILD# and replace it with a copy of my existing ROM\Trinity\OLDBUILD# (I just rename the folder to the new build number). It is just the ported ROM\Shared\NEWBUILD# folder that you want.
Again, you are also using the SYS\NEWBUILD# folder aren't you?
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Oh man! You are genius!!!
My rom comes bootable after renaming the folder!
That's so fantastic
Yet the xip of the system seems hasn't update [still the old build ]
Update
I used the old Build.. therefore, my device is bootable....
Yet when i choose back the new build, ext xip and sys as the neew version,
it suck again at the screen...
Thx man i know u have tried a lot to figure out my problem.
Is it possible or better, if i upload my kitchen for u to check?
OPzero said:
Oh man! You are genius!!!
My rom comes bootable after renaming the folder!
That's so fantastic
Yet the xip of the system seems hasn't update [still the old build ]
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Oh thats easy. The "Rom Version" (that shows on boot) just needs to be patched (it is reading it from the copied OEMXIP).
Just go back into the Porting window then click the button "Find Date/Version on \ROM\Xip\"
That will populate the Rom Date and Rom Version fields.
You can then edit those fields and click each of the "Change" buttons to patch the newer Date/Version into the OEMXIP
You can also set the PagePool value using the "Change PP to Mb" function (it is not possible to query the current PP value however it does tell you what it previously was when you change it). You could always set it to something sensible like 4 or 6 and see what it was before that.
EDIT: If you were actually talking about the CE OS build number that shows in "About Device" then that is much harder to change. It is embedded somewhere within the MSXIP (requires hex editing I am not familiar with - and that is effectively make a "fake" build anyway).
OPzero said:
Update
I used the old Build.. therefore, my device is bootable....
Yet when i choose back the new build, ext xip and sys as the neew version,
it suck again at the screen...
Thx man i know u have tried a lot to figure out my problem.
Is it possible or better, if i upload my kitchen for u to check?
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Oh, sorry just saw this ... yeah probably better to just do that.
Just curious but why on earth do you want to port some old TC 6.1 rom anyway?
There a plenty of functional WM6.5 xip/sys bundles that we can/have ported to Trinity. Even if it has be WM6.1 there are surely newer releases of 6.1 xip/sys to choose from?
EDIT: Just a heads up but I am about to go offline for the night (end of the work day in my timezone) so if you do upload I will not reply until tomorrow.
the.decoy said:
Oh, sorry just saw this ... yeah probably better to just do that.
Just curious but why on earth do you want to port some old TC 6.1 rom anyway?
There a plenty of functional WM6.5 xip/sys bundles that we can/have ported to Trinity. Even if it has be WM6.1 there are surely newer releases of 6.1 xip/sys to choose from?
EDIT: Just a heads up but I am about to go offline for the night (end of the work day in my timezone) so if you do upload I will not reply until tomorrow.
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It's ok, would u mind pm or post some link which release those stuff?
Thank you very much!
I will still upload my rom and pm to u~
Check it when u hav time
really really thx
You could extract the 23102 wm6.5 build from my last kitchen release:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5547181#post5547181
I have modified EVK slightly to allow it to build either p3600i or Trinity ROMs from the same kitchen but still there is a full QVGA xip/sys bundle there for 23102 (give or take a few sys packages).
Got to go, will try and be more helpful tomorrow
the.decoy said:
You could extract the 23102 wm6.5 build from my last kitchen release:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5547181#post5547181
I have modified EVK slightly to allow it to build either p3600i or Trinity ROMs from the same kitchen but still there is a full QVGA xip/sys bundle there for 23102 (give or take a few sys packages).
Got to go, will try and be more helpful tomorrow
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Yes I got it~ Thx
it is great
OK and now i am going to mod it~~
Yet just before i start, would u like suggesting me some post that is most updated and clear enough for me such a newbie to work around it?
Thx
OPzero said:
Yes I got it~ Thx
it is great
OK and now i am going to mod it~~
Yet just before i start, would u like suggesting me some post that is most updated and clear enough for me such a newbie to work around it?
Thx
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Go and find SuperSport's Tutorial Video for using Ervius Kitchen.
I have broken up the EXT packages into categories to make it simpler for new chefs but the basic concept is the same.
I have included pre-built ROM profiles to make it very simple to build ROMs out-of-the-box.
Just got to "Load ROM", choose one for your phone (P3600i or Trinity) and the click "Create ROM" to build it.
Load a few different profiles and look at what changes in the settings. That should help you see what is going on.
Check out this thread for more tutorials and guides:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669414
the.decoy said:
Go and find SuperSport's Tutorial Video for using Ervius Kitchen.
I have broken up the EXT packages into categories to make it simpler for new chefs but the basic concept is the same.
I have included pre-built ROM profiles to make it very simple to build ROMs out-of-the-box.
Just got to "Load ROM", choose one for your phone (P3600i or Trinity) and the click "Create ROM" to build it.
Load a few different profiles and look at what changes in the settings. That should help you see what is going on.
Check out this thread for more tutorials and guides:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669414
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1 more question
I downloaded a XIP SYS Pack from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650783
However there are 5 Folders
How can i port them into the kitchen?
Thx for that
OK, this technically requires more time than I can spare to explain thoroughly ... but maybe if I just outline the steps you can do some google searching to work out exactly how to do it:
- First you need to clean up the SYS for you needs. For Trinity you need to have QVGA sys structure so that means only 96DPI and 320x240
- That means sorting the SYS package folders into an EVK SYS structure and removing the other DPI and resolution folder structures.
- Go get XIPDumpSoter (or whatever it is called now) by teh penguin so that you can use it to automatically sort the folders. Then delete any that are for other DPI or RES (eg: 192DPI or 640x480, etc). You _only_ want 96DPI and 320x240 (and of course any that are non-res specific)
- That should give you the folder structure to put into \SYS\NEWBUILD#\
- You will need to copy over the WINCENLS sys package from your existing SYS as that will not be in the new SYS (there are other replacement folders like SQM_DUMMY, and also some that we often just delete but you can learn that stuff later)
- We have already discussed what you need to do with the MSXIP
- Lastly, (and this is really very much the "art vs sicence" part), you will need to go through and "recmod" a certain number of "modules" within certain sys packages.
I simply don't have the time right now to get into recmod but if you google you will find plenty of helpful posts explaining it. I think there is even a basic recipe of what to recmod for 64M users done by JooJooBee ... that would get you going.
Put simply, at this stage you need to read read read read read lots of chef threads to pick up the finer details. Sorry I am too busy at work to be any more help than this.
Good luck.
Thank you for spending time on me
I know it is rather annoying to explain a few things
Really Really Thank you for helping me
I hope that my post could be a guide for others
Update:
The rom is still unbootable after a day of trying.
Does the OEM section be edit before updating the build?
Such as initflashfiles.dat [I read the in the tutorial that it should change to the native 6.5]
May be i started from the wrong step?
What i concern is that wm6 may not suitable to update directly to wm6.1 or wm6.5
Thank you for spending much time on helping me
If it can be google, simply give me the keyword,
I will finish the entiry
And finally, thank you!!
OPzero said:
Thank you for spending time on me
I know it is rather annoying to explain a few things
Really Really Thank you for helping me
I hope that my post could be a guide for others
Update:
The rom is still unbootable after a day of trying.
Does the OEM section be edit before updating the build?
Such as initflashfiles.dat [I read the in the tutorial that it should change to the native 6.5]
May be i started from the wrong step?
What i concern is that wm6 may not suitable to update directly to wm6.1 or wm6.5
Thank you for spending much time on helping me
If it can be google, simply give me the keyword,
I will finish the entiry
And finally, thank you!!
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I'm actually going to bed before 3am tonight, so I will not be long here, but I just had a thought. When you cook the ROM, are you checking "Real WM 6.5 AKU" in the Kitchen? Don't do that. You cannot actually use a Native 6.5 Kernel on the Trinity as one does not exist. Also, as mentioned by the.Decoy before, you MUST have 'wince.nls' in your Kitchen somewhere or it will not boot. Thirdly, try cooking a version without ANY Extended packages. Only the original XIP and SYS and see if that boots. When you get that going smoothly, start adding EXT packages. Good Luck!
I'll check back in a couple days to see if you've made any progress. If you'd like to send your kitchen to me also, I'd be happy to look it over and see if I can find anything wrong in there.
Again and Again
I keep remind myself that Native 6.5 Kernel should be checked
OMG The Bug is here
And Thanks Decoy
Thank You
Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Update:
I saw a folder called 0_ROM_Version in EXT Shared
What is it and what function does it have?
Thx
OPzero said:
Does the OEM section be edit before updating the build?
Such as initflashfiles.dat [I read the in the tutorial that it should change to the native 6.5]
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Ummm are you trying to use a freshly extracted OEM from an official ROM?
If so then yes, there is a massive amount of conversion that must be done to it before you an cook it into a rom. Even before you break it up in to components and edit all the reg and dat files ... you first need re-sign everything with an SDK cert because you won't have the official cert that HTC built them with.
Seriously. If you are just starting out then use an existing chef's OEM (use mine or anyone else who has posted a kitchen).
Even I have not yet ever had the time to complete build an OEM from scratch (not that I don't want to one day). I was always just adapting the OEM that Chanvi had provided us in his kitchen, primarily because he had already done all the work to make it mesh with WM6.5
OPzero said:
Again and Again
I keep remind myself that Native 6.5 Kernel should be checked
OMG The Bug is here
And Thanks Decoy
Thank You
Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I am bit confused by what you said there
As Supersport explained, we do not have a Native 6.5 kernel for Trinity.
So that option should not be checked.
OPzero said:
I saw a folder called 0_ROM_Version in EXT Shared
What is it and what function does it have?
Thx
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Again, this is why I said to try "Load ROM" and see what happened
Those are just simply EXT packages which contain 1 single provxml. Each one sets the registry value for "ROM Version" (the info that comes up in "About Device" in Settings). There is one for every type of "Saved ROM" you can build from that kitchen.
I created them so that people could build each of the several types of rom from my kitchen but never need to edit the provxml files to change what the version info was.
If you are going to try cooking your own roms, the best advice I can give you is find a text editor you like and just start opening up ALL of the REG DAT RGU and PROVXML files you can find and see what they are doing.
You can even do it from within EVK. Select the type of file on the left panel called "Editors" (or just select "All") then click "Show Editor". You can open the files it finds by double clicking them in the panel on the right.
Anything custom that ever happens in the setup of a rom is controlled by these files.
If you want to see how something works (or what it does), just open up the files and read them
Sorry, wt i mean is that my rom become bootable after unchecking it
~~ That is so amazing ~~
Now i am Reading the horrible, endless.....etc tutorial, [I can finally have my own rom ]
1 Question, I am trying to put a new wince.nls which content much more countries in the rom. Yet it comes unbootable after i have repalced it.
I googled around and found several solutions.
1 is that i should put it in OEM rather than SYS [I havn't ried it yet i think it won't work]
2 is that i should mod the size of the xip.bin
Therefore it is big enough to store it.
3 Adding in some registry with my selected country code
Thanks for helping me ~~
Sorry can't help you there.
I have never ventured beyond WWE lang for my kitchens.
OPzero said:
1 Question, I am trying to put a new wince.nls which content much more countries in the rom. Yet it comes unbootable after i have repalced it.
I googled around and found several solutions.
1 is that i should put it in OEM rather than SYS [I havn't ried it yet i think it won't work]
2 is that i should mod the size of the xip.bin
Therefore it is big enough to store it.
3 Adding in some registry with my selected country code
Thanks for helping me ~~
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