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Raphael or Rhodium ?

Hi there,
I´m an old time kaiser user, and Im currently planning to replace it with a Touch Pro or Touch Pro 2.
Basically, I have found out that both phones are "the same"... is that right ? Are there any important differences between the TP and the TP2 ?
Im looking for a sturdy phone. The kaiser is well and alive after almost 2 years using it, but... I think that if the rhodium is all out silver plastic, I think it is more susceptible to scratching and such...
Oh well... any opinions would be helpful.
Tia

I just bought my touch pro2 last week and have been overjoyed with it, save for a couple of issues regarding battery life. You can check these out in the 'got mine' thread in this subforum.
To better compare these two, head on to youtube and check out the touch pro VS touch pro2 video from pocketnowvideo. to summarise some of the differences -
1. touch pro2 has a bigger screen, 3.6 inches
2. tp2 has a higher resolution, 480 x 800, tp is 480 x 640.
3. improved TouchFLO 3D interface, it's almost perfect now.
there are other differences, so i suggest you check out the youtube video, or head on to www.pocketnow.com and check out their review of the TP2.

StealthNet said:
Hi there,
I´m an old time kaiser user, and Im currently planning to replace it with a Touch Pro or Touch Pro 2.
Basically, I have found out that both phones are "the same"... is that right ? Are there any important differences between the TP and the TP2 ?
Im looking for a sturdy phone. The kaiser is well and alive after almost 2 years using it, but... I think that if the rhodium is all out silver plastic, I think it is more susceptible to scratching and such...
Oh well... any opinions would be helpful.
Tia
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If $ is not a problem I would go for TP2 definetly.
It´s a fact that technology is making devices everyday more easyly replaceble...

OMG OMG OMG!!! I couldn´t wait!!! I just bought it!!!
Really really anxious!!!!

Good Move! Let us know how U like the new toy...

I have all mentioned devices and Rhodium is really the best!

Rhodium for sure
still own a Raphael but the Rhodium owns his little brother
far more intergrated menu's, landscape touch flo and so on!
even has a own BT app or so to set up bluetooth
i'm very very glad I bought the phone

Just received the tracking number... aaaaaaaarhhh!!!!!!

As per this link the Touch Pro 2 processor is worse than Touch Pro processor.
http://www.pestaola.gr/how-advanced-are-htc-touch-pro2-and-htc-touch-diamond2/
Processor used in Touch Pro2 was released in 2007 90nm (Qualcomm® MSM7200A™, 528 MHz)
Processor used in Touch Pro was released in 2008 65nm (Qualcomm® MSM7201A™ 528 MHz)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7200a&c=qualcomm_msm7200a
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7201&c=qualcomm_msm7201
Not sure why an old processor was used in TP2
I still vote for TP2 .

I was about to post "oh that´s so stupid!" but then I realize.... that in fact it is a smart move from HTC, as stated on the site. They´ll prolly make more money.
Well... at least they´ll have mine...

Got it!
It is so sexyeh!!!! But batt life sux... well, let´s see how it will behave on a normal work day.

Windows mobile phone...

I am looking to get a new windows mobile htc phone. Of course its that time of year an my two year contract happends to be up in feburary so im available for a full upgrade. So im just trying to get some advice from the more experienced programmers, developers as to what kind of phone would you recommend? I would like it if they made a phone like the dash 3G but also with touch screen.. Do they make anything like that right now? I have looked at plenty of phones and am leaning towards the HTC touch pro but im iffy...

HTC Touch Pro is a nice phone.. i actually have a link on some right now are you in toronto area ? i can sell you one in brandnew condition just battery and phone no box or accessories but works we just have these phones left in the back we are a SP ppc test company they are coming up for sale. let me know 175$ cnd cash only in person. ?
Vtheme aka touchFlo 3D Pro wannabe lol its great..
on the s621, touch pro tho in my opinion is best hTC pocket Pc to date i think, even nicer looking then the Touch Pro 2.
Long Live the wm 6.5 HTC S621 and Touch Pro.. Best PPC

Na sorry man Im out of Kansas City but you have pretty decent prices but im wantin to buy new in box items. So you would prefer the touch pro or s621.. Is that the same as the dash 3G?

turtle1981 said:
Na sorry man Im out of Kansas City but you have pretty decent prices but im wantin to buy new in box items. So you would prefer the touch pro or s621.. Is that the same as the dash 3G?
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It's in 10.10 shape was only used 2 charges maybe.. no box ya an anything lol.
I like the S621 cause its keyboard design keys fn.. symbol camera button, IE, and email etc keys are nice i have a Ozone aswell an touch pro but Touch pro is worth getting they rock best design overall and fast and does eveything you want why by a HD when the touch is just as good moreless, still hTCs best looking ppc to date i think. Ozone is a nice phone tho dash 3G is nice a proper hTC Snap : )) touch pro is a wonder for touchflo etc homescreens cabs lots stuff to download to make it do a lot of cool things.

Owning them both i'll make my view:
The s620 is an awesome phone still, but slow processor low on storage and RAM but a nice layout regards smartphone.
CPU:Clock: 201 MHz
RAM_capacity: 64 MiB
ROM-capacity: 128 MiB
Display-Resolution: 320 x 240 (QVGA)
Cellular-Data:Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE
The Touch Pro is more recent device with better specs and a far easier nicer interface with TF3D also far more programs available.
CPU:Clock: 528 MHz
RAM_capacity: 288 MiB
ROM-capacity: 512 MiB
Display:Resolution: 480 x 640 (VGA)
Cellular_Data_Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA
Now my s620 is used by the gf the Kaiser is sat on my desk (being cooked) & the TouchPro is in my hand
Hope that helps

hey guys
i have htc s621, but am planing to sell it and then get a htc snap (the one with email button, released in march 2009).
could anyone pls recommend if i should keep the dash or get the snap..i read somewhere that the snap isnt good (like some buttons fall off after a period of time).

kachman said:
hey guys
i have htc s621, but am planing to sell it and then get a htc snap (the one with email button, released in march 2009).
could anyone pls recommend if i should keep the dash or get the snap..i read somewhere that the snap isnt good (like some buttons fall off after a period of time).
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I would try an get a HTC Dash 3G as the A key is in a bad spot on the snap especially if you are used to the S621 layout but i would honestly get a HTC Ozone.

turtle1981 said:
I am looking to get a new windows mobile htc phone. Of course its that time of year an my two year contract happends to be up in feburary so im available for a full upgrade. So im just trying to get some advice from the more experienced programmers, developers as to what kind of phone would you recommend? I would like it if they made a phone like the dash 3G but also with touch screen.. Do they make anything like that right now? I have looked at plenty of phones and am leaning towards the HTC touch pro but im iffy...
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just wait a bit and get the HD2
1GH SNAPDRAGON!

Wow I checked out the HD2 an that is an awesome phone but I still may have to go with the touch pro only because of a vast price difference.. But, the HD2 still maybe an option. Its a toss up now, time to draw straws.. LoL.. Thanks..

Desire HD

Remember a few weeks back when I posted the rumour about the HTC Desire HD?
Well it appears that it may have been more than just a rumour.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/htc-desire-hd-spotted-in-the-wild-with-evo-like-form-factor-and/
Looks kinda crummy to me. I much prefer my Desire to this one. (If it is the Desire HD).

i want 1 it comes out in the uk they wont let me swap it lyk the iphone

that doesn't look like a aluminium unibody to me, saying that i never thought it would have one anyway, that would just make it far too good looking and competitive lol

I want one too... I prefer bigger screen.

The hardware is basically identical to the Desire. That 1GHz Snapdragon is looking a little long in the tooth at this stage, especially if you're interested in playing games on it (I'm not, but still). If I was going to lock myself into a 12 month phone contract I'd wait for something a bit more future-proof.
Apparently the dual-core Qualcomm cpus started shipping to manufacturers in June. So if you're smart, you'll wait a while longer...

damn, i thought that HTC Desire HD will be better resolution ( like IPhone display, maybe even 720p ), dual core 2x800Mhz and better GPU ( better that then Samsung Captivate ).
My next phone will be dual core for sure. but as i see i have to wait for it a little bit longer .
But it look like HTC desire (well, back look like same color )

The HTC site now has a new model listed, the HTC Aria which looks very similar to this phone..
http://www.htc.com/www/product/aria/overview.html
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

It's more like HD2 then Desire IMHO. Which is good, since I won't go to smaller screen then my current HD2.
New info, video: http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/09/htcs-4-3-inch-desire-hd-shows-up-on-video

aindow said:
The HTC site now has a new model listed, the HTC Aria which looks very similar to this phone..
http://www.htc.com/www/product/aria/overview.html
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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The Aria is basically AT&T's version of the Wildfire.

Where are the hardware keys and the optic trackpad?

Good question .. I'd say nowhere.

Yess.. physical buttons much more desired + 4" screen is also ideal size in my opinion like on Galaxy n SE-X10 rather than 4,3 since it is still a cell-phone, not tablet. You can add wifi-n, native divx support and tv-out (both dlna and wired) to existing Desire features. Then we can mention it really desirable, even -almost- perfect!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Yeah, cant wait the announcement (September 15?).
But, I might not upgrade if it is only 4.3" + internal memory (4GB).
Add the new dual core snapdragon and MUCH BETTER video capture (current 480p and 720p are jokes!), I will buy 2 !!!!

As a HD2 owner I say to you: you will get used to 4.3 inches in a day and you will never want go back. Trust me on this.

looks like its available on oct 1st. amazon had it priced at £415, but took the page down.

Dr.Sid said:
As a HD2 owner I say to you: you will get used to 4.3 inches in a day and you will never want go back. Trust me on this.
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Funny, thats the one main thing I miss about my old HD2, I love my Desire, but it took a bit of getting used to going back to a smaller screen.

HTC Desire G7 Dual Sim (A8181) and Android 2.2

How to install Android 2.2 on my HTC Desire G7 Dual Sim (A8181)?
P.S. Now install Windows Mobile 6.5 Proffesional
Sorry for bad english!

You've got a clone. So no Android for you.
Will have to live with windows.

artukas613 said:
You've got a clone. So no Android for you.
Will have to live with windows.
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What is Manila? This soft for Windows Mobile?

Manila or TouchFlo 3d is HTC's Sense user interface for windows mobile.
But in chinese clones it is heavily modified.
Do you really brought that phone?

artukas613 said:
Manila or TouchFlo 3d is HTC's Sense user interface for windows mobile.
But in chinese clones it is heavily modified.
Do you really brought that phone?
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Yes. What should I do?
I was told that he needed the driver worked well.

If you buy it as HTC made Desire you were fooled. Maybe you cant get it back and get back you money?
If not you will have to live with what you got. No Android. Little chance of upgrades. Why?
No comunity like XDA. Chinese phones look the same outside, but different inside.
Desire clones can have different processors, different memory size, different camera and so on.

Can't believe HTC allow this sort of stuff to go on!!

EddyOS said:
Can't believe HTC allow this sort of stuff to go on!!
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It's China. Laws does not work there.

artukas613 said:
It's China. Laws does not work there.
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What software shows hardware phone?

Why do you want to know. Its not much use of knowledge that inside. Unless you are very gifted in mobile software development.

I want to know what's inside. Is there support for 3G, memory, processor

Извини. Мы можем говорить по русски?

English forum. My english is better than russian. Besides, no russian letters on my keyboard.
That is a problem with chinese phones. You cant rely on internal software to show correct hardware. Cant rely on chinese websites specs. I googled for few minutes and find it can be 3 different processors, ram/rom from 256 to 576, camera 2, 3, 3.2, 5 mpix., gps, no gps, screen Wvga, hga, amoled, led, lcd, capacitive, resistant. What inside yours?
Maybe search Windows Mobile Development and Hacking forum for some hardware showing software.
Maybe our desire forum members from China can help.
Good luck.

Read (russian forum)

Update HTC Desire G7 Dual sim
What software should I use to update the rom of my G7 Desire Dual sim? I tried different versions of IDT but it fails.

G7 K8181
Hi guys I have managed to copy the raw files from the phone. and insert to a kitchen. Can anyone help me to translate it and generally cook it? If anyone is interested please PM me.

Maybe me...
I have this phone:
HTC Desire (Clone)
Model A8181
Qualcomm Snapdragon 1 GHz
512 MB ROM, 576 MB RAM
3.8 WVGA 800x480
Dual Sim
WM6.5
Only one problem: Optical Trackpad no working.
Maybe with a new ROM can fix this.

HTC Desire clone
This is the phone:
w w w . diytrade.com/china/4/products/7283014/H_T_C_Desire_Larger_Size_Quadband_Dual_Sim_WM6_5_Smart_Phone_G7_A8181L.html

jmrojas said:
I have this phone:
HTC Desire (Clone)
Model A8181
Qualcomm Snapdragon 1 GHz
512 MB ROM, 576 MB RAM
3.8 WVGA 800x480
Dual Sim
WM6.5
Only one problem: Optical Trackpad no working.
Maybe with a new ROM can fix this.
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Hi jmrojas, i have the same phone, and the same problem with de optical trackpad.
I cannot believe that this phone has the hardware button (optical trackball) but that it does not work. I believe that it is a problem of the ROM.
If you find a solution, please tell me. Thanks!!

HTC Desire - LCD OR AMOLED?

Hi people,
To start with, I did my research and haven't got answers to my question...so am posting one here.
Ok, so I plan to buy HTC Desire for my wife, but wanted to know if I now go to buy it, will it be an LCD or AMOLED? or something else??
There seems to some confusion about the screen?
Also, if you'll could help me in deciding between the Desire and the Desire S.
Wanted a front facing camera phone, but is the Desire S's FF camera any good? If it is hopeless, then I might as well buy a phone without it...
So, thanks so much for reading...

desire used to come in S-LCD and S-AMOLED...
now u will only get S-LCD
desire S is only available in S-LCD
Desire S is way better with more RAM and better camera...and hardware....worth it
dont buy desire..crappy camera...
so go for desire S....
also i'll highly recommend samsung Galaxy R which comes at the same price but is way more better

S-LCD
S-LCD is good too. Don't bother in picking one or the other.

justexpect said:
S-LCD is good too. Don't bother in picking one or the other.
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Thanx!
My only worry, the front facing camera quality of the Desire S. That is, IF I am buying that...
But so far my wife likes the Desire...

bw7and said:
desire used to come in S-LCD and S-AMOLED...
now u will only get S-LCD
desire S is only available in S-LCD
Desire S is way better with more RAM and better camera...and hardware....worth it
dont buy desire..crappy camera...
so go for desire S....
also i'll highly recommend samsung Galaxy R which comes at the same price but is way more better
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Thanx, I will try to convince her, but if she likes the Desire, I am helpless. I wanted one with a FF camera, which is the Desire S. But let's see. It isn't in my budget yet. Waiting for the CES 2012 to work its charm...

front camera
Yes, a front camera is good for video calls (3g or skype).
It's also good for the new Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) face unlock of the phone.
I will definitely recommend a phone with a front camera.