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I have to admit that it was by mistake (actually I was looking to get rid of the t-mobile phone skin) that I stumbled over a nice way to get 10MB more program memory out of the MDA Pro:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin
"Enabled"
Change from "1" to "0"
as a result of that, you cannot make videocalls anymore, but you can change this setting back within 2 minutes...(resco reg editor brings up the latest entry at startup so its right there, and then warm reset) and the ugly t-mobile skin is gone and replaced by the original nice blue windows skin.
I also squeezed 3 MB more by installing the ext.ROM of the qtek instead the one of t-mobile, since qtek is just 0.5MB vs 3.5MB from t-mobile. I did not really find a difference in performance.
Does anyone know of any similar "simple" tricks that would release more memory? at what ever price, but everyone has different needs, so it may be an option for some people?
check the WIKI!!! weve added alot of WM5 reg tweaks to it now, mainly making teh phone to what was expected when getting it out of the packaging!!
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Registry
Actually I have (and that is where the the phone skin thing comes from)
but it did not mention that not only you loose the skin but also the video phone feature and gain 10MB..so actually I am wondering if this happened to me only because I am using the combination of t-mobile ROM and qtek ext.ROM??
and then: none of the reg hacks in wiki seem to free up some RAM (at least as far as I can tell..but I really am just a little better reg. user, I cannot write one line of code...)
When you say your program memory increased by 10 Mb, does it mean that you now have 55 Mb of memory avalable?
I have a Jasjar and i recently hard-reset my device. When the Ext.Rom was about to install, i soft-reset the device. My device i now 40% faster, and i am NOT exaggerating. All the bloatware from i-mate didn't get installed which is perhaps the reason the Jasjar is working as fast as any other device, SIMPLY SUPERB.
@Andy,
When i go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin ", i get 2 folders with further sub folders and one entry.
The 2 folders are:
1) Dialer (with further subfolders such as Landscape and Portait etc)
2) Progress
The last entry available is "default which has no value set".
I don't see any entry that plainly says "Enabled". Solution?
I've been harping on about the curse of the phone dialer skin since writing VJBigPhone. I was forced to install the skin etc for compatibility, and it makes such an enormous difference, slows things down so much. If you don't care for the bubbly buttons, remove it ASAP. You'll have much faster screen rotations and generally feels snappier.
Also clears up unsightly rashes
V
Trust me, after resetting the device prior to Ext.Rom installation, my Jasjar is now BLAZING fast and in now way is this an exaggeration.
@universaldoc:
you see, I have two more entries on that page. below this default string comes the dword "enabled" entry that has to be switched from 1 to 0. and below that one comes the string phcanhtc.dll
What I am observing, is: I did an installation prior to this one, with no ext ROM. that gave me the same amount of program memory as I am having now. the difference is only, that now I have some functions that were missing when I did not install ext rom, for instance I did not have the voice commands. and also not the video calling, same as now.
So what I think is: since you did not install the ext ROM, maybe that is the reason why you do not have these registry entries....because there is nothing to disable, since it was not installed at all? what do i know...lol..
and to answer your other question: my MDA Pro has 50MB of program memory, this value remains unchanged. But, with the skin enabled, I had 17MB (!) after warm reset...(1900 contacts, a few today plug.ins)...and it was hardly viable. And now i have 27....so much better.
Also: i have the latest (german) t-mobile rom (1.20), i find it much more stable than the first one which was terrible. and the qtek wasn't bad either.
(german version too)
Well after taking a rough guess into what all the bmp's are for the dialler and that awquard quickdial pad thing i get around 1.4mb of images the the portrait and landscape backdrops 500k between them, shame they aint removed totally!! that would give 2mb more rom to use.
Someones got to sort a nbf editor out! *wink plz!!! i'd really like to be able to make a rom with all MY apps and layout in it
phcanhtc.dll is surlly whats causing it, what else does that call on, can anyone dicect it?
I also tried a rotate whilst on the phone screen and its dam near instantanious
and tbh i actually quite like this skin, simple, does what it says on the tin.
I use pocket informant 2005 for dialling out normally non frequent numbers, and use the phone app to just do most common numbers from the call history.
non the less its an odd way to get more performance, i like it
Hi Andy,
Thanks for the response.
You might be absolutely right. Since i didn't install the Ext. Rom in the first place, i don't have these entries. Also, at present, i have 27Mb of program memory free which is exactly what you have I was thinking that you actually got 37Mb of memory free which IMO would be Fan-bloody-tastic!!!
Thanks anyways.
AndyME said:
I have to admit that it was by mistake (actually I was looking to get rid of the t-mobile phone skin) that I stumbled over a nice way to get 10MB more program memory out of the MDA Pro:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin
"Enabled"
Change from "1" to "0"
as a result of that, you cannot make videocalls anymore, but you can change this setting back within 2 minutes...(resco reg editor brings up the latest entry at startup so its right there, and then warm reset) and the ugly t-mobile skin is gone and replaced by the original nice blue windows skin.
I also squeezed 3 MB more by installing the ext.ROM of the qtek instead the one of t-mobile, since qtek is just 0.5MB vs 3.5MB from t-mobile. I did not really find a difference in performance.
Does anyone know of any similar "simple" tricks that would release more memory? at what ever price, but everyone has different needs, so it may be an option for some people?
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Hi AndyME
Thanks for this tip. I applied this to my Dopod 900 (Universal sold in Singapore) and my RAM increased from 20M to 27M.
I might just do a hard reset and then follow universaldoc's suggestion of soft-resetting before any Dopod bloatware installs.
On the whole I am happy with the performance of this device as it is now, especially since I upgraded the Radio to 1.60.00.
i a mglad it was useful for you. you can always check the difference between this way and the reset as per universaldoc and see what suits you better.
Hard-resetted my jasjar
Soft-resetted before extRom installation
Result is: everything is working better, from signal level, to phone calling, to internet browsing. Thanks for the tip!
I'm interested to know you guys. I've always done the ext rom skip, but do you find it has any effect on your use of Voice Command. I'm suspicious why someone who didn't do the skip, but is using the same headset, doesn't have the problem I have, whereby the audio gateway is left open and I can't close it by pressing the headset button.
V
when I once skîpped ext rom, i noticed that voice command seemed not to have been installed (at least I did not see it in the programs)
now, that i just disable the phone skin, i feel i get all the benefits the others are reporting, but i have full voice control support.
but i have installed a qtek ext rom on a t-mobile rom, as mentioned above, and the qtek is just 500 kB while t-mobile is 3.5MB
so it is probably anyway difficult to say what is the content of the various ext roms, they can be quite different i would guess...
I have actually 30mb on reset, if I disable my auto starts, it drops down to 26mb on boot up when I am running:
1. M$ Voice Command (cant get rid of the old, but dont use it)
2. SPB PP (beta 3.1), SPB Diary (latest), and SPB Weather
These are my today plugins and startup folder.
I also skipped the extended rom entirely, and then selectively installed the bits I wanted using total commander to copy the specific extended rom items i wanted, and the phone wasnt one of them, I dont know anybody with the video bit anyway.
Dont use the antivirus...
I think your bluetooth problem might be rectified by te .cab noted as SSD BTUR_Patch_for_BT.
Without the extended rom, and few of the other registry tweaks, I get awesome memory, awesome startup, awesome screen rotations, never hangs except for 3rd party apps, never misses an sms, rings at the beginning of the first ring.
Yes, I agree, the phone video things sucks heaps of resources, skip it if you dont use it.
Mind you, after a day of hardwork, wifi, internet, lots of mail and playing, it does drop down towards the 20 - 15mb mark, but overall, I am happy with it...
So in summary, just skip the rom entirely, and consider just your bluetooth patch file.
simon, what other registry tweaks are you recommending?
Hi all,
allow me to jump in on this subject. Just did another hard-reset this morning to build a new system fromscrap as I had a huge problem (memory was used by whatever and I did not get further then the today screen).
I am using the Jasjar 1.13.53 WWE and have an empty ExtROM. I noticed that if I only install the .cab for BT (SSD_BTUR_Path_For_BT_Cannot_Initial.sa) I get stuck without the smart-dialing. For me it only starts working if I install to more .cab files :
Signed_eCall_vMail.sa and
Default_Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed
I am having a system which has 30 M free on startup, but only until I start using ASync to get my contacts and calender in, the system immediately drops down to 24MB after that.
Do You guys know another way of getting the smart-dialling working except for the above mentioned .cab-files ? I do not need the video-call at all, wouldn't miss is at all, so would very much like to get more speed excluding it at all. On the other hand I do not like the original dial-skin and would like to overwrite it with the ones from Vodafone.
Is such combination possible ?
Ruud
Ruud, I am afraid, I cannot help you..but it is always so frustrating to get no replies...
i have a VPA iV too (MDA Pro was lent for 3 months only and i will have to return it), i understand what you are talking about, the voda skin is sooooo cool...i asked VJ and he told me that:
"You can grab themes by find the *.tsk files in the \windows\ folder. While you're there, grab all the *.gifs and *.bmps that you can. You should be able to reassemble all the themes from there."
since this was only yesterday, i have not had the time yet to do it. i will try though.
also: on buzzdev.net there is a downloadable skin that is basically the voda skin..unfortunately when i installed it over the default windows skin (the naked blue one) it did not really work. try for yourself...
I have so far kept the vodafone installation as is, it has a very small ext rom of just 2-300 kB, and just removed the skin enable command in the registry which brought 10MB same as on the MDA Pro. (and I do not see the beautiful phone skin anymore...
Why actually did you not keep the voda installation? I think the new (german) t-mobile 1.20 is more stable, but it is definitely better than the old t-mobile was. is it your feeling that jasjar is better than voda?
Hi AndyME,
First of all, I have a vodafone because of my contract with them in Germany, but I am actually a Dutch guy living in Russia. There is no need for the German language, actually I do not like any other language then English for everything in electronics, specially software.
My hope that the device would be multiple language was gone at the moment I unpacked my package. So I used the website here to change to english.
I have all the .gif, .jpg and .bmp from the vodafone installation kept for backup purposes, but had to change them to fit to the iMate size. Also not all the transperency is working like I wanted.
Do You know the .cab file necesssary for just changing the skin ?
It is quite some work to install each of them seperately, softreset and if they do not do the trick, do a hard-reset before You try the next. I found out that the combination of the two I mentioned before helps, but maybe I need this DiscoButton as well ?
I have asked this question before, but did not get an answer, does somebody know what thedifferent .cab-files are for ?
MASD_Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed
MASD_Ringtone_GER_reg_0727_signed
MASD_UXC_DE
MSD_CAB-Customization-VodaDE-Universal-01-05-20Sep05
MSD_CAB-Shortcut-Voda-9Aug05
Signed_AddFavorite_DE
Signed_Connection_GER
Signed_DisableSL
Signed_DiscoButton8.sa
Signed_eCall_vMail.sa
Signed_pIE_About
Signed_PortalDefault
Signed_RemoveFav
Signed_SSD_BTUR_Patch_For_BT_Cannot_Initial.sa
Signed_SSD_Shortcut_GER
Signed_UAProf
Signed_Version
Signed_VodaDE_MNN.sa
regards,
Ruud
I'm starting this thread so Axim users of Football's (et al.) wm6 ROM can share what, if any, applications or hacks found on xda-devs that you have tried and recommend for our favorite VGA non-phone HTC device with the latest OS.. Also post which did not work, worked but not useful , and what tweaks were needed to get them to fuction best.
Note: Please note the original thread/post and give credit to the original developer/poster when you can. Also note what device (x50v or x51v) and ROM used.
HTC Audio Manager for VGA
I tested this version of the HTC Audio Manager and it works well and displays in full VGA. (Other versions found would not display well)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327188
The only problem I see is that the remote bluetooth controls do not work like they do on WMP. Also, you better like green.
Tested on Axim x51v with WM6 A02beta
pBar by nncuong
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284952&highlight=pBar
Task switcher/close-button/quick-launcher/wireless-toggler/system-info application all in one tiny place. Basically a magicbutton-like replacement for the fake 'close' button.
Just download and place the pBar.exe anywhere on the device. Latest version (v1.4) has problem that hitting the OK button on dialogs may minimize or close the main app if you select the 'Show Child Windows' option.
Tested on x51v WM5 A17, WM6 A01 and A02Beta (now also tested on A03 preview).
PocketCM Keyboard by Tene
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321712
Alternative keyboard SIP with better feedback for "finger typing" (similar to eye-fone keyboard). Fully configurable to any keyboard layout/language you may need with word completion/correction and predictive text.
Note: You will also need a VGA skin or it will not display correctly. (Rename the zip file you download to .skin and copy it to the application install directory - '\Program Files\PCMKeyboard\' if installed on device )
Usable, but new versions are rapidly being released with additional features. (Currently at v 0.8)
I found a 'spanish' layout in the forums that I like because it has more keys on the last line (including . and , keys near the space bar). Even though it is a 'spanish' keyboard layout, the dictionary can still be set to english.
Tested on x51v with wm6 A01 and A02beta.
Contact Manager v0.11 by TENE (Not PocketCM)
Want a scrolling, finger friendly contact list (ala eye-phone).
I have tested the original Contact Manager v.11 application found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314048&highlight=ContactManager
Unfortunately, this is no longer in development, and has morphed into PocketCM (also by Tene). PocketCM was designed for wm6 phones and will not work on the x51v (Error on startup). According to Tene, it will not work on any non-phone PDA.
Direct link to old CM v.11 http://www.pocketcm.com/olddl.php
Tested on x51v WM6 A01 and A02beta
Anyone try the other finger scrolling Contact Managers out there?
HTC Home Plugin
Has anyone gotten the HTC Home Plugin to work?
just_jeepin said:
Has anyone gotten the HTC Home Plugin to work?
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I tried various versions (3 tab, 5 tab, configurable, VGA specific versions) and they all seem to install, but no option in the today screen settings to activate. Has anyone figured out how to activate the plugin after install?
Do you know if it is possible to instal the WM 6 in a dell axim x5? thx in advance.
CuscatlanVII said:
Do you know if it is possible to instal the WM 6 in a dell axim x5? thx in advance.
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That has nothing to do with this thread. And no, if Dell never released WM5 for the X5 series, there's no reason to think WM6 will be released for it.
what about Internet Caliing (wm6 voip ) at Ax? it doesn't seem to work at all.
kartam said:
what about Internet Caliing (wm6 voip ) at Ax? it doesn't seem to work at all.
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Are you referring to something like Skype?
this is not a app but it adds the clicks when you click on menus and stuff
tested and worked on x50v WM6 A02 rom was from the a person that work on the porting of wm6 to HTC Wizard don't remember
I also tested the home plug in and battery tray icon from the htc touch rom don't show up. (install but don't see them)
it maybe a vga compatible problem
I tried the Fix_WM6_Sounds.CAB file from above on Football's wm6 A03 preview. Works well. Adds the "dinks" and other sounds when clicking the menu. After CAB install, I did not notice the new sounds until a soft reset.
In the Football x51v WM6 thread, someone complained that there is no 'uninstall' of the CAB if you want to stop the new sounds. What I noticed is that after you install the CAB and go to Sounds and Notifications, the settings may be unchecked even though the sounds are activated. Just enable all the settings for the sounds (even if they are already active) then uncheck them. (i.e. cycle on, then off) By unchecking Events, Screen Taps and Hardware buttons, I was able to 'silence' my Axim as before.
Edit: Menu clicks are part of Events. After this CAb install, you can't silence the clicks without silencing all event sounds. See this thread for more info and two other sound schemes you may want instead of this one that adds all sounds back to wm6.
Note: It appears that all of these CABs add missing/new sound files and registry entries to access them. Fix_WM6_Sounds.CAB adds sounds to the scheme called .AllSounds. The CABs in the other thread add two more (.WM5 and .WM6). According to that thread, you can switch between them by changing the registry entry for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Snd\Event\.Scheme followed by a soft reset. You could also edit the .AllSounds key to remove the sound file definition for menu actions. See the other thread for the locations of the string in the key. (looks like its position 10 & 11).
This is another useful post about sound schemes.
Update: I created this Registry code that defines a new scheme called ".SomeSounds" and sets this as the scheme to use. The only difference between this and .AllSounds is that I set menupop and menusel to "empty" sound, thus eliminating the clicks on menu but not the other events. Note : you need to do a soft reset after importing the registry. Use a software based soft reset because for some reason the hardware reset button on the back will reset the registry back as well. I use the soft reset button on pBar.
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Snd\Event]
".SomeSounds"=hex(7):41,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,72,00,69,00,73,00,6b,00,00,00,43,00,6c,00,6f,00,73,\
00,65,00,00,00,63,00,72,00,69,00,74,00,69,00,63,00,61,00,6c,00,00,00,64,00,\
65,00,66,00,61,00,75,00,6c,00,74,00,00,00,45,00,6d,00,70,00,74,00,79,00,00,\
00,65,00,78,00,63,00,6c,00,61,00,6d,00,00,00,69,00,6e,00,66,00,62,00,65,00,\
67,00,00,00,69,00,6e,00,66,00,65,00,6e,00,64,00,00,00,69,00,6e,00,66,00,69,\
00,6e,00,74,00,72,00,00,00,65,00,6d,00,70,00,74,00,79,00,00,00,65,00,6d,00,\
70,00,74,00,79,00,00,00,4f,00,70,00,65,00,6e,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,00,\
00,71,00,75,00,65,00,73,00,74,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,00,00,00,4e,00,65,00,74,00,\
62,00,65,00,67,00,00,00,4e,00,65,00,74,00,65,00,6e,00,64,00,00,00,4e,00,65,\
00,74,00,69,00,6e,00,74,00,72,00,00,00,73,00,74,00,61,00,72,00,74,00,75,00,\
70,00,00,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,4d,00,61,00,78,00,00,00,57,00,69,00,6e,\
00,64,00,4d,00,69,00,6e,00,00,00,52,00,65,00,63,00,53,00,74,00,61,00,72,00,\
74,00,00,00,52,00,65,00,63,00,45,00,6e,00,64,00,00,00,00,00
".Scheme"=".SomeSounds"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Snd\Scheme]
".SomeSounds"="Some Sounds"
Is it the normal Dell X51v version of Skype you use or?
ROM: 3rd WM 6.5 ROM for hTC P3300-P3350_Artemis&Love[WM6.5 Beta 21159] 17-Feb 09 !!!
3rd rom from dheewatara-s:
http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=200154&PN=985
http://rapidshare.com/files/199086096/Pawaj_65.7z.html
+CHOME
+ ie6
- No MMS
- PDA+radio
http://rapidshare.com/files/199080532/Pawaj_65_M2D.7z.html
+CHOME
+ M2D IPhone Style
+ ie6
- No MMS
- PDA +radio
Testing
I have installed and testing now.
The above pictures shows Program Free Memory as 16.68MB but actual is as below.
At Fresh boot Storage Free 44.44MB and Programs Free 22.63 MB
Download Link from Rapidshare with IE6: http://rapidshare.com/files/197880124/WM6_5_3rd21159.rar
Download in progressing,will flash later today & give feedback...
dioooi said:
3rd rom from dheewatara-s:
http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=200154&PN=985
http://www.mediafire.com/?jibyejhwmmg
+ ie6
- No MMS
- PDA Part only
http://www.mediafire.com/?gjwyltz3w4o
No ie6
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Although my Artemis shows 60 % free program memory, this ROM is still painfully slow.
i've download now n will try...
Thanks for the rom!
Like user above, runs very slow on the main menu but once in file explorer etc it's just as fast.
Time to upgrade the phone??
3rd wm 6.5 rom p3300
I have tried all 3 version of this ROM,
nice look but very very slow on my artemis.
today TITANIUM good, Honeyconbs slooooow other apll quite fast,
IGO8 breeze, tt7 slow.
I hope that some1 can make this fast than today.
it was lag & makes my phone hang... this ROM requires more RAM...
anyway thanks uploader... something new...
tested it for 20 minutes.
TOO SLOW on Artemis.
downloaded and tested for a day or so now
the titanium is better than in previous versions, seems to run smoothly and integrates well at last...good to see the clock finally making a propper appearance in there
also the first chance to play with the new honeycomb interface.
unfortunately the jury is still out on this one.
my view is that it's more of a hinderance than anything else at the moment.
This totally replaces the start menu. Click on the start button and you're taken straight into the honeycomb interface. I wasn't expecting this behaviour from it...i thought it would be more of a today plugin replacement or something, and if it's going to behave like this on new roms it needs to be
a)quick
and
b) easy for you to find your programs or settings that you want.
Personally i dont think it does this yet.
You can click and hold to bring any app into the "favourites" part of the comb, which means you can now "pin" your favourite apps...mcuh like your last used apps used to automatically appear at the top of the start menu.
Unfortunately i think finding anything more than you favourite 5 or 10 progs would quickly become a real pain in the ass.
let me give a quick random example
on a "classic" style rom, let say you want to go to the "SMS SETTINGS" app....you'll go to start , settings, hit the communications tab at the bootom and choose SMS SETTINGS
on this i'll go to start, straight into the honeycomb. From experience i know that it's not in here (which is good becuase this is now a looong page to look in) so i choose the SETTINGS cell. now all i can see is 7 cells and remember there are no tabs here anymore so this is ALL of your settings. I've got About, backlight, bluetooth, buttons , certification, and clocks and alarms. Anything else i have to start randomly scrolling and searching so i start moving downwards. Eventually find it on the 12th cell on the left That's 12 'Down clicks'. If i wanted WLAN SETTINGS or something i would have to do a lot more scrolling. Everything is alphabetically sorted which helps, but it's a 3 colum system and so you still need to read ALL of the available options and you need to know EXACTLY what that app is called (is it TOMTOM or NAVIGATION? Is it under T or N ? etc...you get the gist)
I hope they are still experimenting with this interface becuase i think it looks good and COULD, if done right, be a really nice feature for the WM6.5 system...but it still needs some fundamental work before it works well. Remember how, from the concept art, we through it would be a 2d scrolling 'intellingent' list...it's not. It's stricly up and down alphabetical.
I can't quite put my finger on what it IS that's wrong with it...but there is SOMETHING...it just takes too lonk to find what you need at the moment. Maybe it's just unfamiliarity and it'll all become clear after a few days use, after all i've had 5 years of experience with the old system...the same as lots of people switch vista and XP's interface into win2k mode becuase they know where everything is. I always plead with those gus to stick with it and learn the newer systems becuase they usually DO make sense....but this time i cant see it yet
The new lock mechanism also needs some work. they've obviously tried to emulate a slide-to-unlock mechanism without making it TOO similar to the iphone....unfortunately this means that you get the small blue slider we've all seen on the screenshots at the top-center of the screen and sliding it 1cm or 2 to either the left or right unnlocks. I personally think this gives too much scope for accidental unlocking. I mentioned in another thread a while back about how a "shake to unlock" feature would be self defeating. the point of a lock is to make sure that when the phone wakes up becuase of incomming texts or whatever the phone doesnt totally wake up and end up accidentally resetting all of your calendar appointements or calling people while it's in your pocket....you need it to be HARD to unlock accidentally, but not hard to unlock intentionally. The balance is not quite right here either, same as the honeycomb.
it's still in beta and hopefully the whole thing just needs those last few "tweaks" to the functionality and ergonomics before it too "makes sense" but right now i'm more than willing to switch back to dhee's last manilla rom....it's just easier to use. I hope i'm right and that this rom is in BETA for both reliabiliy AND functionality reasons.
theres a lot of potential, but it isn't there yet.
these comments are ALL down to the mew 6.5 system, NOT dhee's rom, which seems to have done everything it can with what it's been given. Considering the clumsyness of the new interface etc this is as good as i could hope for a 6.5 beta rom to be, and i will install his next rom without ANY hesitation.
for anyone wanting to try the new features out, this is the rom to go for, but i wouldn't blame anyone for not keeping it for too long
thanks again dhee for a great rom, i just hope you get an improved system to pass on to us next. I'll probably leave this one for another day or so to see if it grows on me, jstu like i gave XP and vista's new interfaces a chance.
he's now updated it with an M2D version, link : http://pirun.ku.ac.th/~fscinrn/Download/Pawaj_65_M2D.7z
will flash and let you know, i'm not convinced there's enough room on this rom for M2D too but who knows, he usually pulls it off well
NOTE the download is ONLY an NBH file
rom 6.5 M2D NEW
I have flashed 3 times my artemis with this ROM but always, after reboot wake up one error and auto reboot, so, for me is not working
I hope that someone can fix it.
rossomalpelo said:
I have flashed 3 times my artemis with this ROM but always, after reboot wake up one error and auto reboot, so, for me is not working
I hope that someone can fix it.
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Same result ... And i flash once - device reboot, show me white screen, show error message and reboot again. Back to YuE WM 6.1 firmware. Waiting for stable release.
yeah, the M2D version didnt work for me....reverted back to his earlier 6.5 Beta 2 version with M2D becuase i dont think the honeycomb and titanium is quite ready yet
very very slow.. also the menu is not very much clear
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he's now updated it with an M2D version, link : http://pirun.ku.ac.th/~fscinrn/Download/Pawaj_65_M2D.7z
will flash and let you know, i'm not convinced there's enough room on this rom for M2D too but who knows, he usually pulls it off well
NOTE the download is ONLY an NBH file
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This one is not from dheewatara, and was one of the first roms to include WM6.5.
So far DJ M2D WM6.5 5.0 UL is the quickest and smoothest.
i found DJ M2D WM6.5 5.0 UL to be the same speed as the 2nd rom with M2D from dheewatara, but dheewatara's rom has the newer camera version (with panorama mode) and a slightly newer rom version if i remember correctly. I'm sticking with that one for now
we beg pardon for my terrible English :-[ , I wanted hear there is version room without additional programs ( light ) plz give reference
Hi ppl,
All the links give error .... not found....
Can someone give me a positive link?
Hi any re-uploaded links?
Thanks
Hi All,
First of all BRILLIANT website ... keep the good work up guys ... please bear with me with a few question that i have no idea about. Thought i'd put this all in one thread rather than 4 different ones:
1) Does it actually matter which cab file (i don't know what you call it ExtRom? please let me know what exactly you call it so it's easier for me to search for in the future) to use with which version of OS? Currently i'm on WM6.5 Build 23004 WWE R7.1 and i think i downloaded some can file from WM6.1 or something
2) Where can i find TouchFlo for WM6.5 Build 23004 WWE R7.1?
3) I installed the HTC Manila2d on my XDA iis but can not seem to find it any where, do i need to install something else besides this to be able to view the application
4) Most of the time when the backlight goes off on my XDA IIs, i press the power button to bring the screen back up only to find that the screen has gone white and then i have to reset my XDA a couple of times ... to get it working i have to make sure that i'm constantly working on some app for a good few minutes before i leave the screen light to go off
Would appreciate if you can help me with this. Many thanks in advance.
1. yes it most certainly does. if you had upgraded to wm6.1 and tried an extrom of wm6.5 you would probably be disappointed that some of the programs like internet explorer, office or wm6.5 specific stuff wouldn't work. the extrom is a bunch of cabs to install certain programs after a hard reset. that's why you should have a look inside the extrom and maybe google some of the cab names and decide, whether you relly need them or not. for example, if you never use java, mss, or pdf documents, leave jbed, arcsoft and adobe reader out of the extrom and save a lot of space on your device. in general, the rom chef gives a link to the extrom, fitting the rom best, but i think the last official extrom, released by a chef was with xplode's 21202. that is the one you want to take for the newest internet explorer and office and other useful stuff.
2. what? touchflo in general means... nothing. there are 3 aspects of touchflo: touchflo3d (=Manila2d), touchflo cube and sometimes touchflo is also referred to, when it comes to finger friendlyness and touch scrolling.
to be short, the touch scrolling is always on in wm6.5 and it is also quite finger friendly. about the rest... forget it.
3. you know, manila 2d is sooo 2008
manila2d is, as you might know, opticly comparable to an animated version of htc home with a bunch of extra features, and also, like htc home (or the above mentioned touchflo cube) it is improving the today screen of wm6 and wm6.1 devices. it might also work on wm6.5, but for that to be even remotely possible, you have to lose the titanium home (default today screen plugin of wm6.5, with the sliding and all...) so go to start->settings->today->items and unselect windows default and then manila might work for you, which still begs the question:
why would you want manila when you can have titanium?
manila is slow & outdated (if you ever even get it to work, most versions won't do on the BA), while titanium is new, modern, highly customizable, hip, trendy and most important of all, works extremely fast on the BA.
4. ok, assuming that you already checked the backlight and power settings, that leaves a few other things to check:
- does it also do the white screen, if you press the power button in the first place, to switch it off and then turn back on?
- did you do anything in the upgrade process differing from "the book"?
- did you try a hard reset? if you just upgraded, you have nothing to lose?
even more stuff would come to mind, but first post back if any of the things are done so far.
greetz
Chef_Tony
Hi Chef Tony, mate honestly i really do appreciate taking your time and explaining this what was once all french to me. Ok i totally get the idea of ExtRoms and Cab file. So assuming that if i use one of the 6.1 cab files on a 6.5 it should work correct?
Apparently i downloaded Manila2D from this forum, installed it but that didn't work ... i went to start->settings->today->items and unselect windows default and but it comes up as blank screen (home screen) and also i could see TouchFlo as an option and when i select that it takes me back to the home screen saying "Tap here to activate TouchFlo", no matter how many times i tap, nothing happens. So correct me when i say this, this TouchFlo which was showing up on the options is actually a Manila2D app right? I saw a video last night on youtube which said TouchFlo on XDAiis (sorry but can't find the exact link to it) and it looked something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJFBifvgSgA i mean the interface and the screen tapping.
As far as the screen is concerned, it never used to do this but since i've upgraded to 6.5 it has started to. I followed the exact same process what the book said because i'm the sort of a person who follows the book and nothing besides that ... besides i've hard rest it as well but that still did not help. Ok here's what happens (i think), when the device is battery powered, it will white screen when the device is not used for a few minutes (sleep mode or whatever you may call it) but it does not happen when it's on external power because it's always on any way.
in general an extrom from wm6.1 would work on wm6.5 flawlessly. but as mentioned before, the versions of the internet explorer and office changed dramatically. you should include the newer cabs there.
this tap here to activate touchflo is exactly the manila, and normally it should start up then, but as mentioned before, there is no guarantee, every version would work with the BA, but i had a version once, that worked in general, it was just a little slow and some features wouldn't work, which is perfectly normal. you should have a look at this thread and maybe try the versions given there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340932&highlight=iolite
also you'll find other neat stuff there.
if you really want manila as your GUI, maybe you should try a nice wm6 or wm6.1 rom, because manila is really sucking cpu and ram, and with most wm6.5 roms those resources are optimized for titanium and even with titanium switched off, they just consume more hardware than wm6.1 for instance. it will run better then.
but your last sentence there is confusing me. what exactly do you mean, when you say white screen? is it actually showing all white, with backlight, or is it more like the display is off, a pale grey without backlight? if it is the first option, it seems there is actually a tiny problem there, could be together with manila, back in the day, when i ran it, i experienced sort of a third boot splash screen with manila installed and the device would take forever to boot up, soft resets were a major buzzkill then.
if it is the 2nd option, then it is perfectly normal and you can go to start->settings->system->power and set the device to never switch off on battery power, but instead just switch off the backlight.
last but not least (ok, i should have written this above): the video you posted!
the first 48 seconds don't show any manila stuff, that is called s2u2, slide 2 unlock a keylock app, you can download for free, from another forum member here, called A_C, on his site here: http://s2u2.ac-s2.com/ (all credit to A_C)
i wouldn't exactly count on the photo and video function to work on a BA either, as shown about 1:20
at 1:50 the youtube app is not part of manila either, but you can download something like that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385227 or the official one here: http://help.youtube.com/support/youtube/bin/topic.py?hl=en&topic=20991
i really wonder what the last app was, he showed, since i don't have sound at the moment, i can't tell whether he mentions it maybe, but probably doesn't matter anyway, because you are not looking for a paint clone, but for a nice GUI
hope this could bring you a little bit further in getting your device customized. let me know, whether everything worked out as planned.
Chef_Tony
Hi Chef Tony,
Trying Titanium on Xplode's v7.1 but cannot get my normal Today plugins selected - Pocket Breeze, Device lock, Comms, and a Programme Bar.
Is there an easy way to do this? (In M2D customisation you can set the Today page plugins...)
Thanks.
the titanium blocks everything else.
when you go to start->settings->today->items you see, by default, there is a list of a lot of plugins, but the only one that is checked is the titanium home, there called "Windows Default" for instance date and time is unchecked, which does not mean, you don't see the time in your today screen as a clock is also part of titanium. if you decide to work with m2d or other normal today plugins, you need to uncheck Windows default and then you will have access to the old today screen with the static, yet small, list of items. and then you have the opportunity to use all your today plugins. if you want to use titanium home and have plugins for that look for "titanium plugins" or "chome plugins".
and the plugins of titanium can be monitored, sorted and (de-)activated in "titanizer"
all those things in " " can be found in the forum, just have a look in development & hacking section or use the forum search
Alright, let’s get Started! This is the new WM6.5 23081. I added a new Startup Animation (by aestivalisakito) and Sound (by me), Modified the Start Menu, Added my Favorite Keyboard (On all but Super Ultra Lite), and ArcSoft MMS 5.2.2.37 (on all but SUL).
I will start with a Super Ultra Lite Version, and then see where that leads me. My plans, if I have time, would be a Super Ultra Lite, a Normal Chome/Titanium, an M2D, an M2Dv2, a MotoSurf, an SPBMS 3.5, and who knows what else. Each Different Version will be listed on Page 2 (Might Spill onto Page 3) with the Download Link for each. In each Download Link I will post the Self Extracting Kitchen, an RUU_Signed.nbh, and an AutoFlash file.
What is AutoFlash you ask? I've taken the RUU file, added the Flashing Program, and Packaged it all up into an AutoExecuting AutoFlashing Program, and, it's a smaller download than the RUU alone. Pretty cool huh? Yes, others have already done this, but I'm going to make it a standard practice from now on.
"AutoFlash (tm), Making Flashing Socially Acceptable, One Package at a Time!"
My recommendation for Flashing is:
Make sure you have Hard SPL on your Phone. I recommend Olipro 1.20 - Click Here for More Info
Be sure your battery is at least 50% full.
Start your phone in Tri Color Screen mode. Steps below
--Unplug your phone from USB
--Hold down the Power & Camera Buttons
--While still holding them down, press the Reset Button using the Stylus
--Release the Reset Button, but continue to hold the Power/Camera buttons until you see the Tri Color Screen
--Plug in the USB cable (if asked about installing a driver, do this), You should see USB in the White Box)
Now you can Flash.
Run the AutoFlash file for the ROM you've selected, or Flash using the Standard Flashing Program included in the Kitchen.
Enjoy!
Suggestions:
For those who wish NOT to have a Startup Sound (it can be annoying) use my attached Kill Startup Sound.cab I'm sure this is going to be downloaded a LOT. If requested enough, I'll remove the sound completely.
If you set the IE8 Browser to 'Mobile' instead of 'Auto', it's actually usable. 'Auto' will try to display Full Websites. If you have the time, it looks Beautiful, and it displays basic Flash, but it does take a LONG, LONG, LONG time. (Menu, Tools, Options, Other)
Thank you to EVERYONE on XDA. Chefs, Programmers, Cookers, Users, Noobs, everyone! You've ALL helped me to be able to do these. I'm sure I'll learn a LOT more as the days go by.
I wanted to give a Big thanks to the.decoy and Tomme45i.
This is part of Tomme45i's Kitchen, and I'm using the.decoy's SYS/XIP. He's done an awesome job of making them lite and fast!
Keep an eye out for the'decoy's ROMs coming in the future. He's remaking the Kitchen from Scratch so that it can cook Trinity and P3600i all in one Kitchen. He's also completely reworking the folder structure and a LOT of other hidden surprises. I know you will all be impressed, the guy is super smart and talented. Like many others on here, he's got a personal life, so it may not be completed immediately, so please be patient.
Of course, there's also Chanvi/Oggi, Ervious, and Many others, I can't remember them all.
23081 SUL
23081 Super Ultra Lite
26.35MB Free Ram
82.80MB Free Storage
Wow, this one is Lite! No Really, I mean it! You may need to tape a roll of quarters to it to keep it from floating away..
I know this will not be for everyone, but there are those out there who prefer to start lite and add what they want from cabs. Well, this is the one. This thing runs FAST, but has NO extras. If you don't want it in there, it's NOT.
Phone Works - No Speed Dial or Video Call
Camera Works
WiFi Works - No CommManager
Text Works - No MMS
Email Works
IE8 Works
New Zoom Tool on Taskbar Works
New Contacts App Works
New Calandar Works
Calculator Works
Standard Task Manager Works
ActiveSync Works (Verified on Win7 WMDC)
My Modified Start Menu w New Folder Icons (Thank You 'theDecoy')
Update 10/27/2009 Available 1:25pm - Fixed IE8 Issue, Please download again if you need IE8.
Download Now! Self Extracting Kitchen, AutoFlash ROM, RUU_Signed.nbh
23081 Normal Now Available
21.74MB Free Ram
57.75MB Free Storage
This is a Normal ROM with standard items installed.
Phone Works - Speed Dial Works, NO Video Call, Sorry, not sure why yet.
Camera
WiFi
Text
MMS - ArcSoft MMS 5.2.2.37
Email
IE8
New Zoom Tool on Taskbar
Voice Command
New Contacts App
New Calandar
Calculator
HTC Task Manager - While on Home Screen, Tap Taskbar, When Icons Show, Tap and HOLD Top Right Corner Until Icons Dissapear, Release.
CHome Editor v1.6Beta by Showaco
Pim Backup v2.8
Remote Desktop Mobile
Modem Link
CommManager
Internet Sharing
Bing
Marketplace
MSN Weather
Microsoft My Phone
MSN Money
Getting Started
ActiveSync
My Modified Start Menu w New Folder Icons (Thank You 'theDecoy')
Includes all the items in the above images, plus the following:
Download Now! Self Extracting Kitchen, AutoFlash ROM, RUU_Signed.nbh
23081 FlashBack
23081 FlashBack NOW AVAILABLE!
23.33MB Free Ram
20.47MB Free Storage OUCH! Not sure where all the storage went???
I really wanted to get a couple more menu items and icons fixed, but for some reason, I cannot figure out what's wrong. Also, I tried to get the FingerKeyboard configuration to happen after first boot, but could not make that happen either. Many of the Packages I created from Cabs myself or Modified the Original, so if there's a problem, let me know.
Featuring: The Old HTC Home Screen, Thus the Name
3 Keyboards to Choose From: FingerKeyboard 2.1 - MS Keyboard - Transcriber
3 Browsers to Choose From!!! Opera - SkyFire - IE8 SkyFire is my Fav, although, this Opera is the Best I've Tried
HTC Task Manager - While on Home Screen, Tap Taskbar, When Icons Show, Tap and HOLD Top Right Corner Until Icons Disappear, Release.
New LockScreen with Multiple Sliders
New Zoom Tool on Taskbar
Camera
WiFi - 2 Digit IP, Sorry - If Changed, I loose Auto WiFi Settings Page
MMS - ArcSoft MMS 5.2.2.37
AutoLock (SmartLock) - Find this in the System Settings Tab
My Modified Start Menu w New Folder Icons (Thank You 'theDecoy')
Main Menu
Phone Works - Speed Dial Works, NO Video Call, Sorry, not sure why yet.
Text
New Contacts App
New Calendar
Email
MS Alarms
MS Task Manager
MS File Explorer
Office Mobile 6.1 and One Note Mobile
Tools Menu
Soft Reset with my Custom Icon
Phone Search
Calculator
Finger Keyboard Config
HTC Home Customizer
nueSIPDefault - Default Keyboard Selector
Pim Backup v2.8
PHM Regedit
Communications Menu
ActiveSync
CommManager 2.9.5.0
Games Menu
Solitaire
Bubble Breaker
Kevtris 2 – Tetris type game
tripYzee! – Yahtzee type game
GPS Menu
Bing Search - Very Cool Tool
Google Maps
TomTom Navigator - You need your own Purchased Maps, or download the Free City Map
Internet Menu
IE8
Opera 9.7
SkyFire – Cool!
Multimedia Menu
MS Pictures & Video
Windows Media
YouTube
Download Now! Self Extracting Kitchen, AutoFlash ROM, RUU_Signed.nbh
Please read the Flashing Instructions in the First Post for more info on these.
After Flashing, give it some time. It takes a LONG TIME to finish loading the first run. Immediately after flashing, I recommend running the FingerKeyboard Setup found in the 'Tools' Folder. Then use the 'nueSIPDefault' also found in the 'Tools' folder to set your desired Keyboard.
SuperSport
THANKS YOU FOR THE ROM
BUT I COULD NOT FIND THE LINK.
OK NOW I GOT IT
arnooo said:
THANKS YOU FOR THE ROM
BUT I COULD NOT FIND THE LINK.
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It JUST finished uploading. Wow, you were fast getting here.
well done rom
thanks
oouuuhhh!!.. it a good rom!! vary fast.. but .. i need video call, any workaround?
thankz dude
Waiting for normal ROM 23081.
any screenshot?
IE8 not working
On my device I can select from the start menu the IE8 icon. On the next screen just a bigger IE8 icon is shown. But no reaction (i.e. IE is not started).
Keyboard
Hello
SuperSport, nice ROM tested since 1 hour and something is missing for me ... a real finger keyboard, can you share the one you cooked in 23064 Rom. I didn't find it on your mediafire web site.
Thanks a lot
UCLA
HACH said:
On my device I can select from the start menu the IE8 icon. On the next screen just a bigger IE8 icon is shown. But no reaction (i.e. IE is not started).
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I just noticed this. Will see what happened. I had it working, but somehow lost it.
Edit: Indeed, I accidentally removed a language folder for IE. It's back in, but will take me a bit to re-upload the files. I will notify in this post when they are back up, check back. All updated and IE8 Working!
ucla said:
Hello
SuperSport, nice ROM tested since 1 hour and something is missing for me ... a real finger keyboard, can you share the one you cooked in 23064 Rom. I didn't find it on your mediafire web site.
Thanks a lot
UCLA
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The Keyboard you speak of is Cooked in. I will be adding it to the Normal Version coming shortly.
Here is a CAB version. Not sure if it works on this ROM, but it's worth a try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=531315
SuperSport said:
The Keyboard you speak of is Cooked in. I will be adding it to the Normal Version coming shortly.
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OK, I hope it would be as fast as this one ... Waohoo it's amazing !!
Really Great Job
THX
purewater said:
any screenshot?
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but 23081 normal download???
rubenalf said:
but 23081 normal download???
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Uploading now. Just a couple more minutes...
Hi! I wanna now why do you use 1.46.30.11 radio version?Gps is working? Batery have big life ?
By the way your roms are very intersting I will test your normal version in few days.
Tanks!
Alex.
goalex said:
Hi! I wanna now why do you use 1.46.30.11 radio version?Gps is working? Batery have big life ?
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I was using 1.56.70.11 for a Long time, but then decided to try others to see which one gives me best performance and battery life. Because I use my phone so differently from week to week, it's hard for me to judge, and I just stopped with 1.46.30.11 and have not changed it again.
I 'THINK' 1.56.70.11 gives a slight GPS perfermance boost, but at the cost of battery life. That's only an educated guess from using it for a year or so. I'd be curious what others think now that 1.56.70.11 has been here for a while...