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Well I am not a happy bunny !!!
3 weeks ago I had the screen on my XDA II replaced for £160 after it cracked (my fault) and then I sold that unit and upgraded to an XDA IIi and less than two weeks of having that I have cracked the screen on that one, so bye bye another £160 !!
I have a pretty standard case which I wear on my belt but it doesnt seem to offer any protection if you lean up against something hard (no jokes please) as the screen is just behind the leather and the pressure breaks the screen.
Anyone suggest a hard (like proporta) case which I could clip onto a belt (for work purposes)
Many thanks
You need an aluminum case I think, but bulky but good protection and it has a belt clip.
I think I have decided on a proporta aliminium case - I know they do one with a belt clip which clips onto the back of the case but I dont trust clips. much prefer a belt loop that you can thread a belt through.
Proporta do a belt holster which you can slip it into, which for work purposes is the only time I would need to carry it on my belt.
Its more the waiting for up to two weeks that gets me. I really depend on it for work and stuff and having a Nokia 3210 loan phone just isnt the same
See http://www.pielframa.com/promo_jasjar.htm
Only problem is that it would appear there is no belt clip
Nice!!
That's the first good case I've seen!
Looks professional and easy to use. Its a bit expensive to order it yet.
But that's the case I'm going to get for my MDA Pro
The missing belt-clip makes this case useless for me .. i want one with a belt clip !!!
- Superbowl
A beltclip is necessary for me, too. Without this function the standard MDA Pro case is OK with me. I think a case like the standard for the magician would be perfect for me - belt clip an quick release...
looks awesome, dunno that i'd trust having the pda open and the cover shut as those storage cards in the case get a tad close to the screen for my liking!
Flubster
There is not any plan at piel frama to add belt clip , i sent an e-mail to piel frama & they reply :
Regarding the belt clip, we have to inform you that due to the weight of the device and the design of the case, we cannot instal a belt clip on this new leather case. The clip would not stand the weight of the device on the belt. Besides, if we would instal a belt clip on the case, the functionality of the case would not be the intended one as the user would not be able to use the device with the belt clip on it.
We are sure that you will understand this situation and will agree that the belt clip is not a good idea for this model.
Please, do not hesitate to contact us if you need further assistance.
Very best regards and have a nice day!!
I just bought the Piel Frama case. The leather feels good but there is one design flaw. It has a strip of leather on top of the keyboard. With it my PDA cannot close properly. I am so afraid to damage the hinges on my new toy. If you have any ideas to modify this problem please let me know.
If anybody wants to buy my Piel Frama case for JASJAR please let me know. I live in Hong Kong
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I just bought the Piel Frama case. The leather feels good but there is one design flaw. It has a strip of leather on top of the keyboard. With it my PDA cannot close properly. I am so afraid to damage the hinges on my new toy. If you have any ideas to modify this problem please let me know.
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You can cut the strip on top, near costures... I have one and no damage on JJ...
I am also very tempted to cut the strip of leather. But I was thinking if you do, after awhile the whole JASJAR might just fall out. Its really a pain to see such a nice case go to waste.
I was going to cut the leather strip as well. It does not seem like this is really what is holding it in so there would not be much harm in cutting it so that the device could fully close.
Can someone who did this post pics and say if it makes an improvement?
Cutting the case
Why are you guys cutting the case? Pielframa should replace the faulty cases. In the past they have replaced cases whithout the need to send back your faulty cases. Most people buy them from outside Spain. Sending it back internationally could be a pain. In the past when they released the first batch of the ipaq iPAQ H6340 cases, these cases were also faulty (it does not fit well). They did not recall the cases, but replaced them.
By the way the Pielframa issue is also mentioned on another thread. See
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=183962#183962
Maybe they've changed their policies on replacements. As you stated, I don't want to mess with a 2-3 week turnaround from sending from the USA and back to Spain.
Here is what I got from Piel Frama:
Thank you very much for your email and for your kind words about our products.
We are sorry to hear that you are having problems with the case. In fact, some of our customers have informed us that they are having some problems to close the device. Our craftsmen have been thinking about it and they have thought about a solution which would be to take the thin strap over the keyboard from the case so that the problem will be solved and the device will close without problems.
So that, we would ask you to ship the case back to us by regular mail and we would modify it the case. Our postal address is the following one:
PIEL FRAMA
Avda. Fuente San Francisco S/Nº
P. I. "LA PIEL"
11600 Ubrique (Cádiz)
Spain
Once we get it, we will make this modification in the case and we will ship it back to you.
If its a matter of just cutting out the back leather strip, I can do that myself instead of dealing with a 2-3 week turnaround not to mention the mailing costs in addition to costs that I've already paid, to mail it to them.
It is not very customer friendly. Pielframe cases are certainly not cheap. A standard (i.e. not crocodile or ostrich) Jasjar case cost at least 70 euro's about 87 $. So we should expect good quality and good working cases. If a case is faulty which could damage the jasjar / MDA Pro then they are liable for that. So having customers to spend more money (time and shipping cost) to have it fix does not really make sense.
My Piel Frama case just arrived this morning (ordered on 2 Nov.). I was excitied because my normally they have great products. The leather is nice, but I have to report the problem mentioned above is worse than I imagined.
With my case, the leather strap across the top of the keyboard prevents the screen from closing by about 8mm!
I can not even snap-close the case because the screen sticks up so high --even if I apply pressure.
So, my case is completely unusable. I wonder if they had real Universal units during the design process, or if they just worked form published specs.
Back to Piel Frama.
I was visiting Piel Frama Factory. They have an I-Mate JASJAS to probe the cases. I have a cocodrile leather case and my JASJAR close well. You can see my blog (click in my firm or www) ... and will see, in last picture, the Piel Frama's JasJar.
Have Fun
my word of advice is don't use the case unless you do something about it. after 2 days of using my piel frama case I removed it and notice that the hinge is quite loose. previously the joints were tight, right now when I move the screen portion there is a clicking sound and it is coming from the joints. piel frama case has damaged my toy instead of protecting it. I just cut away the top portion leather that is above the keyboard. I don't care about sending it back, anyway what can they do when the design itself is flawed.
I did expect a little more than just "send the case back to us", but I guess that is the way customer service has gotten these days. Fortunately, I purchased my case from a reseller in the US and only paid $54 but still expected better from Piel Frama.
This bad press isn't going to be helping them sell many cases, because most of us hear about these things through forums such as this one.
Does cutting away the back leather strap appear to make a difference when closing the Universal now? I'm ready to start hacking mine!
yes , cutting it off does help quite bit, its much better now. however it will not completely close because there are still 2 more pieces of leather at the side. what I did was that I used a clamp for about 15 mins both sides. it looks ok much better than before. a few guys on this forum has also done so. afterall the machin is more precious than the case
greatestkelvin said:
yes , cutting it off does help quite bit, its much better now. however it will not completely close because there are still 2 more pieces of leather at the side. what I did was that I used a clamp for about 15 mins both sides. it looks ok much better than before. a few guys on this forum has also done so. afterall the machin is more precious than the case
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Hmm ... cutting the back stip off lowers the lid just a little. Cosmetically, the appearance is nicer with the strap. There's still some pressure on the back hinge when you snap the case closed. But, it looks to me like the top lid of the jj is flexing a little and like closing the lid is depressing the remaining leather on the sides that's causing problems. This pressure on the lid bothers me, but I'm not sure it will damage the hinge on my jj. I'm going to think about this more before deciding whether to return it to Frama.
I had, and still have, a slight clicking sound when closing the lid. This clicking sound isn't there at all if I pull the lid closed from the right side. But, it is there if I pull the lid closed from the left side. The swivel mechanism is rotated slightly counterclockwise and that is why right vs. left side pulling down of the lid causes no clicking vs. clicking.
This is not to say that the Frama case couldn't cause hinge problems for some. I don't think it would for me ... but I'm reluctant to snap the case shut now until I investigate further.
Hi All,
I can't decide which case to get for my XDA EXEC.
I would like to use it on my belt occasionaly, so one with a belt clip or loop would be preferred.
From your experiences, which case is the best to go for ?
Thanks.
The t-mobile 6315 case is the best I tried until now (my 3rd for the Universal). It is a holster type, as in, you carry it on your belt and take the Universal out to use it.
It is a surprisingly good fit, and it is very easy to take the device out and put it back in, at the same time, it is very safe when it is sitting on your belt.
The guy I bought it from at ebay has 2 left
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HP-iPAQ-OEM...840044486QQcategoryZ15036QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
And it costs you 1/4 of anything else you are going to buy out there.
Doesn't look like he ships to the UK though !
Does size matter?
atekant,
I looked up the dimensions of the iPAQ 6315 and compared them to the JasJar. Here they are:
iPAQ JasJar
118.872 mm 127.7 mm
74.93 mm 81 mm
18.542 mm 25 mm
So based on the demensions posted by HP and imate, the JasJar is larger than the 6315. Since I'm used to seeing demensions in inches/feet, I have no idea if these differences are significant. Do you find that the case is too small? Did you have to modify it? Because if not, I may end up purchasing one from www.casesonline.com, but get a slightly different color combo than the one you found on ebay. Thank you for any help.
This same guy has 52 under a different listing, very quick delivery BTW.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5771486213&category=15036#ebayphotohosting
weather, the fit is perfect, not tight and not loose, the Uni just goes in & out easily, yet the clip is tight on the belt. This is actually near identical to the HP case (larger one) selling for U$49 retail.
weatheryoko
I had the same questions when ordering it, and I was quite sure it would end up being too tight, but it is not tight at all.
The front, back, and the flip cover (with magnetic closure) is leather (I mean fake leather like substance, but not bad). The bottom, and the sides are elastic bands (about 1 inch wide) and have enough give to let the Universal slide in, and at the same time hold it tight enough.
You flip open the top and the case opens like a change purse would so you can slide your fingers in to grab the device.
I have stopped looking for a case for the Universal, that is how happy I am with it.
Thank you both....
Wow, that was a fast reply. Thank you. It sounds like I may the specific case that you bought (with the elastic bands on the side). So I might hold off on buying the one from casesonline. One last question..... Is there a slot to hold SD cards? Thanks again.
Has 2 slots. Go for it, best $12 I ever spent
I got mine yesterday. First when I open it, I felt as it seems it was made from not such a high quality material.
But when I try to use it, I was extremelly happy.
It was indeed made for the Universal! It fits very well, and very comfortable to put in the Universal and take it out. The belt clip is very nice as well. Finally, I reach the point where I can stop hunting for a perfect case for my Universal. I have tried few before: the original case that I modified with a belt clip, the metal case, and a PDA keyboard case. And this one is the best and I'm going to use it with my Universal from this point forward.
I feel upset with imate or HTC though, if they can sell a device with $1000 price, they should be able to include such a perfect case that only cost $5.
I guess this case is just perfectly made for Universal.
Some pictures of this case
Here are some pictures of my Universal case for the benefits of all of you. Like I said, it simply fits the Universal nicely. Look at the bottom cut, this allows you to take out the Universal easily. And I have no more problem with the stylus flying out when pulling the Universal out of the case (the problem with the original Universal case). Best value for the price ($5 plus tax and shipping, around $14) that you can get.
Does it have a belt clip or a belt loop? You missed taking a picture of the back. Please.
Hi,
strange that there is - still - no separate "carrying case" with a holster available for the i-mate JASJAR / Qtek 9000 other than cases offering complete insertion of the device thus being forced also to work with the device inserted.
Good news:
Expansys will be offering one, watch out here
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=125516
Bad news:
It is EUR 53 here in Europe, which is quite a lot :-(
Second: Expansys is not really renowned for keeping the price it announces before availability of product, neither do they keep dates of delivery. (This product was first announced as "available before Christmas", then 23 Dec., then 2 Jan., now 6 Jan. in Europe, which is a public holiday in many countries here...)
Expansys says the manufacturer is "Premier Systems", though Google does not seem to know a manufacturer under this name.
Obviously this is just some fantasy brand producing for Expansys ???
Does anyone know who is producing this case or hides behind "Premier Systems" ?
(Strange enough that none of the big case manufacturers: Covertec, Krusell, ... offers such a case for the device.)
As my last PDA was an iPAQ 4700, for which I purchased the original holster case, I tried it out for my Qtek 9000 (identical with the im-mat JASJAR).
Almost fits perfectly
(Bad: Now my iPAQ, which is still a cute device, however lacking GSM connectivity, is "naked"...)
The 6315 is similar in size to the hx4700 afair, though I never saw the case one guy described here (attached photos a few posts downwards).
Ok, there we go. The back of the case.
Its a belt clip, not a loop. Very comfortable, its not moving around, not too lose, not too tight, just perfect.
Originally I was thinking to buy that XaX case as well, but its too expensive ($50?) and there is an opening on top intended for the headphone, but I dun like it considering if there is a rain drop into it, that's it.
Ok, there we go. The back of the case.
Its a belt clip, not a loop. Very comfortable, its not moving around, not too lose, not too tight, just perfect.
Originally I was thinking to buy that XaX case as well, but its too expensive ($50?) and there is an opening on top intended for the headphone, but I dun like it considering if there is a rain drop into it, that's it.
Thanks very much for the pictures.
Piel Frama - sweet!
my piel frama case just arrived in the mail today - very nice!! it retails for around €60 - or you can buy it brand-new on ebay for €40like i did
here's the link, i'll see if i can attach some pics as well!
http://cgi.ebay.de/Piel-Frama-Leder...841638524QQcategoryZ38994QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
merry christmas
dennis
and here's another picture - this case covers the keyboard (on my old psion a few of the keys were rubbed blank from usage, and i've seen that problem reported on mda III's as well. plus you can leave the device in the case while using all t's features! :lol:
Hi all, does anyone know where to get T-Mobile case in Europe?
Thanks
t-mobile case
@stric
if you are talking about the case that came with the original mda profrom t-mobile, you can have mine, if you cover s&h! let me know if you're interested!
merry christmas
dennis
Hi, no I ment the case for HP 6340 which is being sold on ebay (but only in USA ). Thanks anyway.
Marry christmas and happy new year to all of you
what do you guys think?
I just got one and it fits wicked !
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9704622961&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MESE:IT&rd=1
I purchased the same item last month, its branded T Mobile, but a good fit. It has elasticated sides so would probably be suitable for other PDAs, I can also use it for my Sharp Zaurus SL-C760.
You may want to shop around on eBay as I purchased from a US seller for £7.99 including delivery although it took 3 weeks to arrive.
Mike
yeah I realised that these ones were a little more expensive but they are in the UK so easier to trace etc. and plus mines arrived next day, so I was well happy
In North America?
Does anybody know where I can purchase a leather case like this one in North America?
I've been looking for a case for my Universal that is the same as the Qtek case. Not a skin but a belt holster that has a magnetic clip for closing but the Universal slides out completely when taking it out of the leather case -- oriented on your belt horizontally.
Is this what you're looking for?????
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-LEATHER-CAS...708156343QQcategoryZ15036QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
This is the one I use for my JasJar. Great carrying case. I purchased mine from this seller (In fact I bought two). Works great. Good seller. JasJar fits right in.
Best deal in my opinion.
Good luck.
Take a look at this company, the Brando cases are considered one of the best cases to buy.
Flip Case
http://shop.brando.com.hk/bwdopod900leathercasef.php
I've bought 4 of my cases over the years from this company, although they are based in Hong Kong I have never had any problems with the service.
The delivery has always been within a week to the UK. I bought the side opening case last week from them and I'm very pleased with the quality
Side Case
http://shop.brando.com.hk/bwdopod900leathercases.php
Hope this helps.
I have to agree about BRANDO. I have bought several cases from them and they have always been very fast at delivery and courteous. Once i had a faulty case and after an email and photo of the problem they immediately replaced it!
Their screen protectors are also amazing, ive been using them on an A920, A925, A1000, SX45 and now my Exec.
The case from the first post is EXACTLY like the case that cme with my HP Ipaq H6340. I used it for a while until i hanged it for a krusell.
If any of you guys want a source and dont trust ebay, try HP.COM and look in accessories for the H6340/6315
Brando end-latch case
Actually, I ordered the Brando case that opens lengthways. It's not too bad, some small alignment issues with the openings in the leather...
I just realized that I like the JasJar without anything attached so I'm looking for cases that it's slides out of completely. Maybe I'll get a silicone skin for it so it's more tactile but after using my Brando case for awhile, I definitely want one that I can remove the JasJar from completely.
I must admit, the Brando case looks nice and feels good other than the alignment issue. Delivery was fast and service was good.
What I'm after is a nice holster style case like this one from Sena. Does anyone know if a JasJar will fit into this case??
Cynic64 said:
What I'm after is a nice holster style case like this one from Sena.
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You might find the Krusell Horizontic case suitable, but you'll need a PDA Large (code 94108 or 94113) and they're a bit of a dog to get hold of in the UK.
Brando vs Krusell
Yeah, I'm in Canada having real issues finding a distributor that carries the Krusell case.
And why am I looking for the case after buying a Brando?
Because the Brando sucks. After the second plunge to the concrete that my JasJar took because the metal screw holding it to the swivel swivelled right out (!), I've given up on the Brando.
It's crap. Your better to go with another case. Speaking from experience and one scraped up JasJar.
Re: In North America?
Dan Feeny said:
Does anybody know where I can purchase a leather case like this one in North America?
I've been looking for a case for my Universal that is the same as the Qtek case. Not a skin but a belt holster that has a magnetic clip for closing but the Universal slides out completely when taking it out of the leather case -- oriented on your belt horizontally.
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Check this out. Says they ship to the USA but not sure where they are based. I have this case myself and it is very good.
http://zxpro.com/catalog/product_17...00_Holster_style_Case_Horizontal_cat_681.html
Dave...
the best Ive seen to date is the Piel Frama... expensive, but you get what you pay for ;-)
I've notice a lot of these cases for the universal, the edges are actually expose. You drop your universal and an obvious damage will be visible. The case that came with my Exec was crap, so as the other cases from O2. i have to agree, Piel Frama is the best one i've seen and the price is pretty quite expensive. :?
I have to say, I have a Krussell Leather 'Bikini' model with swivel belt clip which does the job perfectly for me. And I've dropped my M5000 numerous times with no damage even thought there is a lot of exposed casing... only problem is the stylus and SD card shoot out when dropped, I'm on my 4th stylus @ £5 a pop and 3rd 1GB SD (Glad the SD card prices have dropped!)
Hi,
What case do people recommend to keep their Orbit safe? I'm stuck between the Krussell (which I have protected phones with before) , a silicon case (ebay item number 160068404562) or PDA Leather Flip Case (ebay 160068463414).
I'm tempted for the silicon as you still have easy access to the screen , but welcome any other ideas.
gavinlew said:
I'm tempted for the silicon as you still have easy access to the screen , but welcome any other ideas.
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Before reading your question, I was not aware of the existance of a silicon case for this model. Now I've looked it up at Ebay and am also interested. A couple of months ago I bought a silicon case for my mp3 player (different brand though, ZCover) and am very pleased with it. So far however, the seller seems only to ship within the UK. I have just asked him by email if he is able to ship abroad, no answer yet.
Update: he does sell abroad. Apparently he has more than one item on Ebay, all about this case but with different shipping methods. Anyway, I just ordered a black silicon case, due to arrive later this week. I will let you know.
hi
i have the PDAIR flip case and am very pleased with it. i prefer it to a silicon type as it gives the screen more protection.
I agree that a flip case does give more protection, especially to the screen, but isn't it annoying when actually making a call? I presume you don't take the phone out of the case before calling. To me it looks rather silly. NOFI.
Have a look for the aluminium (on ebay, under artemis/p3300) case for the artemis as I have just ordered one and hope it is a good fit for the orbit?
Not massively protective but the slipcase supplied with the 8oGB ipod is a perfect fit. I'm using it just now to avoid scratches until i find a good screen protector and silicon case.
JC#79 said:
Have a look for the aluminium (on ebay, under artemis/p3300) case for the artemis as I have just ordered one and hope it is a good fit for the orbit?
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has your aluminiun case arrived, How much extra bulk does it add, as I'm thinking of getting one. I already have a black silicone case which is very good, and a very tight snug fit, but no protection for the screen. If the aluminium one is not to big, then I would sell my silicone case.
Yes my aluminium case came through the same day as my last post and it does not add much bulk to the device. The only issue I have had with it is the stylus is covered slightly so to remove it you have to open the case and slide the phone up slightly. Apart from that great case would recommend highly to all those in need of a case. My case came in a Pdair box so I assume it is made by them?
I also have the leather PDAIR flip case and my only criticism is that it extends a little to much toward the sides of the base of the screen so that I must angle the stylus a bit at the edges.
mungosdad said:
I already have a black silicone case which is very good, and a very tight snug fit, but no protection for the screen. If the aluminium one is not to big, then I would sell my silicone case.
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I just had a look at the aluminium cases sold on Ebay but they don't seem to have protection for the screen as well? How is that different then?
Just like you, I ordered a silicon case last week and it arrived a couple of days later. I'm pleased with it, pretty tight fit, better grip, no chance anymore of scratching the camera lens when the phone is on it's back, and all the required openings are exactly on the right spot. Indeed, the only thing left is the absence of protection for the screen, but I don't carry the phone in a pocket together with keys or coins.
The aluminium case has a plastic screen in it to protect the orbit. You have to open the front cover to use the touch screen.
All of which is not a problem as I would advise anyone with a phone of this quality to purchase a screen protector ASAP.
I didn't use my orbit till my protector came through the post.
Hi All
I spoke to the lady in the O2 shop in Swindon about cases, she said that O2 will be releasing some Orbit specific ones in the next couple of weeks.
I have my fingers crossed.
Rich
JC#79 said:
I didn't use my orbit till my protector came through the post.
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The slightly scratched, fingerprint smeared and dusty state of my just-over-a-week-old Orbit screen would probably give you a heart attack then! Screen protectors don't come cheap, £10 for little sheets of sticky plastic... selotape is under £1 a roll! I'll just use some of that!
Has anyone on their internet travels come across a vertical leather pouch/holster for the Artemis that has a belt clip?
Something like this:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=21740
Just want something that can be attached to a belt and the Artemis slid into and out of - not for use in the actual case.
Must be vertical and minimal size (ie designed for the Artemis and no larger).
Krusell Vertica with Multidapt® - S-Wide
Selotape aside I'll almost certainly be going for http://www.pielframa.net/pielframa_productos.asp?id=1685 (mentioned on the other case thread) if I ever bother getting a case... can't beat something made-to-measure!
Just got myself a Piel Farama in black for my Jasjam. Looks very good and high quality but certainly requires getting a bit used to as each time you have to open the flap and fold it all the way back to get a hold of the device to take or make a call.
regards
Thanks Moleshome - that is exactly what I am looking for except my only concern (as with all "multi" cases) is that it will not fit it nicely and/or be the smallest possible case for the dimensions of the p3300. I can't think it fits all of the listed "compatible" models perfectly and I don't know if the Artemis would be in that category.
Anyone bought this particular case? Experiences?
Got my Piel Frama case today - it fits the Orbit well despite being designed for the P3300 (sharper corners).
Overall a beautifully crafted case which I will probably return as it won't let me store a credit card in the flap. My last case for the XDA Mini was a Krusell - hope they bring out an Orbit sepcific case soon....
strongp said:
Overall a beautifully crafted case which I will probably return as it won't let me store a credit card in the flap. My last case for the XDA Mini was a Krusell - hope they bring out an Orbit sepcific case soon....
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No good for spontanous gprs internet shopping on the go then?
I dropped an email to see if I could get one for review, fingers crossed otherwise I'll have to fork over some mulah or see what my birthday holds. (I've been a games/tech journalist for a while, which is nice)
Would be interesting to get a comparison of the Krusell and Piel cases, and maybe something a bit more on the minimalistic size. I'll see what I can do, but neither are contacts I've dealt with before.