Hi all,
let me start telling that reading through this frum gives me the feeling that this is a very nice place for information around htc-devices and I thank both creators and users of this site for such a good information-base.
Reading here convinces me that I am able to fulfill my wish to change the language of my VPA-IV (HTC Universal).
I am a Dutch person working in Russia. As I was living in Germany I optained the device there, hence the German language.
For me personally all computer stuff should be English, so I'd also like this device to be so. The fact that the keyboard is German does not disturb me too much.
As a Vodafone user, who has other provider cards as well, I immediately bought the unlock code, so the device is working with other GSM cards as well.
When I asked Vodafone (before I bought the device) if I could switch to English I was told that I should buy myself another Windows Software and they were not able to provide me with it. They were not able to provide any help, nor software for this purpose though.
When reading around the site here (as well as the ftp) I understood that Windows is not provided now. So my first question would be :
-Am I really set to go if I have downloaded the following files :
Jasjar_WWW_11353_137_10301.zip
MaUpgradeUt_noID.zip
Universal_Radinly_UPgrade_1.04.02.zip
Or do I need something more ?
Further I read about extracting the .exe file (f.e. Jasjar_WWW_11353_137_10301.exe) and put some files from there at certain places. I have WinRar but this program does not recognize the .exe file. Can I really extract files from this .exe ? How do I do this.
A lot of talking is here about a bootloader. If the device is in this stage, can I still access it ? (f.e. like seeing a harddrive in my PC's Windows Explorer or something the like)
As I will be stressed like hell (who does not, when he does this first time) when I see the bootloader screen, is there something I SHOULD or should NOT do to make sure all will be OK ?
Last but certainly not least I feel very eager to backup before I do this. Is there a posibility to backup my ROM in some way, save the files on some place for eventual return to the ROM and ExtRom I have now ?
I tried the Program TotalCommander. If I enter the Extended_Rom in the "directory" field of this program I see all files included in the Extended_Rom, same if I enter simply "Rom". Is a backup simply copying these files to my PC or is there more to be done ?
thanks for answering in advance,
Ruud
Hi,
I'm searching a german ROM...
if you have a little of your time to spend on it, i would be very thankful.
but first:
- about extracting the .exe files: Run WinRAR -> Menue: Open file... -> change 'All archives' to 'All files'
- about ROMs: Jasjar_WWW_11353_137_10301.zip is the only rom I would update, not the Radio.
- about bootloader: In this state you can't access your device (only updating the ROM)
- about backup: It is not easy. (How to d2s (dump) the ROM ) but I think Vodafone will shortly relase a update. So it will be possible to restor the device.
How to help me out:
- you will need a Storage Card.
- Download TestWM5.rar
1. Extract TestWM5.exe from TestWM5.rar and place it to you device.
2. At the device, use File Explorer to execute the TestWM5.exe
3. Click "button1" to start the dump process, the file will then be save to \Storage Card\Dump\
4. Copy the Dump folder out and then RAR or Zip it
This will include all files in your windows dictionary -> this is what i need
Where to place exactly ?
Hi bepe,
do not know if You are still available (or again). First your issue.
I logon to FTP from XDA-developers as to upload.
In the upload directory there is only a HTC-Wizard directory, not a wizard. Is this directory the one to place your file on ?
Is there a rule how to name the file ?
I will be dumping in a minute, can upload as soon as I have your answer.
Ruud
Hi bepe,
further to your issue.
1) I do understand that no private information is copied ? or should I do a hard reset before I dump for You ?
2) Whilst running your testwm5.exe from the root-directory of the storage-card I am being asked to agree your program access. This is normal, I allow. But why are there additional programs being opened I never heard about ? I denied them access and let the program run further !
After a lot of files running through the screen (very fast) it looks like the program stopped or finished. Now which file has been created for You ?
Explorer on the Universal does not show it, through my PC I looked as well, but do not see any big file, please explain.
Ruud
Hi Bepe,
one more reply to You :
Even if I allow the file mentioned to run (during the time your program is running), I am being asked again and again if I allow it again. The name is GAC_System.Data_v1_0_5000_0_cneutral_1.dll
Even if allow access all of the occasions I being asked, no file is being created on my storage-card, nothing to dump to You. Not even the dump directory is made.
What do I do wrong here ?
To my issue :
First I noticed that the radio update is available here only as 1.04.02
My system tells me I have 1.04.10 delivered from origin. If I do a ROM-upgrade, do I loose my "radio", or will it not be touched ?
Connected to this, can I dump my "radio"-files seperately ?
WinRAR. Issue solved !
Backup : I was at the buzzdev.net link before. But I actually do not even understand where I can get or see the task32 language he dumped on his screen. And I understand that I will not be able to restore it without help anyway. So this is not really the kind of backup I want.
The information about Vodafone, where does it come from ? when is something expected ?
Ruud
For security sake only.
I am getting nearer to make that final step ;-)
My Winrar was too old, I could unzip the .zip file to a .exex, but I could not unzip the .exe file further. Just downloaded the latest Winrar, now I can see all files included in the provided .exe file.
1) I understood that I should delete the original upgrade-file called ROMUpgradeUt.exe.
2) When I start the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe in a seperate directory with the rest of the files from the .exe I get to see a different HTC device. When I continue, it will not recognize any of the versions from my Universal. I felt unconfortable to continue.
Can it be done without a problem ??
2a) I renamed the ms_.nbf AND radio_.nbf and restart the Utility, it still shows a photo of the wrong device, but it now does recognize the versions of Device CD image version : 1.13.56 Device Extended image version : 1.13.163 and Device Radio image version : 1.04.10
It confirms to change to CD image version 1.13.53 and leaves the extended image version : "empty" as well as the Radio image version : "empty"
Does this mean that by taking away the ms_.nbf and radio_.nbf files I can stop the device from upgrading the extended rom and the radio ?
Why I ask ? Because if I renamed ms_.nbf back and ONLY radio_.nbf is unavailable now, it shows to change the Extended Rom too, but the Radio image is still empty.
Finally if I rename ALL back, it shows to change all, but all version numbers are older once ;-(
Main question here is, can I leave radio_.nbf away, upgrade and hope for radio to be my version 1.04.10 ?
Ruud
Hi,
I'm back.
I'll PM you Upload information...
private information are not copied.
Only if you have saved private information in your /windows/ folder!
i have never being asked to agree for program access :?
...but I started it of the root-directory of my device.
what is the name of your 'Storage Card' folder?
I not realy have the info from Vodafone, but for all devices before there have been more than one update. But I can't tell when the first update is expected.
If you are trying to make a backup: you will need a terminal program
About dumping
So I have a complete "new" device now.
Did a hard-reset, after which I did not give any new information to the device.
I placed the .exe file You gave me in the \windows\startmenue before, after which it is asking tonloads of access requests.
Now I replaced it in the root-directorym Yes, no additional questions asked anymore, perfect, well NO. As there is no directory made on the storage card. I tried it once with the async active and once with the device seperate. No result.
Any ideas ?
what is the name of your 'Storage Card' folder in your root?
As the device is German, it is called "Speicherkarte"
and renaming is not possible (allowed)
OK this is the problem, I'm trying to get the Source code to change that.
found something: this tool will change the folder name from different languages to "Storage card" which is often needed for different tools
Understood.
About my question, as I am still nervously waiting (cannot start the upgrade before You got your data, can I ;-)
Did I understand correctly, that the file MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe is made for different devices from HTC and therefore I do not get a photo of the universal when I start the software ?
If I start the JASJAR_WWE_11353_137_10301.exe I DO get to see the Universal, but of course get the country error.
Did I also correctly understood I can take away the radio_.nbf from the directory and the update will handle both ROM and ExtROM but leave the Radio untouched ?
Will I be entering this "bootloader" status at all, as I do not need any further updates then ? Are there any resets after the upgrade which I SHOULD or SHOULD NOT make to get the device working again ?
Ruud
Hi bebe,
storage.cab works (be it only after a soft-reset)
The program testwm5.exe is much slower now, so the result is taking minutes now (if not tens of).
Looks like the perfect speed of the program while the storage card (at least for his eyes) was absent, was due to "saving into space"
Will upload asap.
Ruud
I'm loading JASJAR_WWE_11353_137_10301.exe its at 60%
MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe is a hacked version, of another device.
So the photo should not be important. (Please wait until i have downladed the file, I'm not realy sure jet...)
OK, I have to wait anyway, because TestWM5 is very slow now, I can see file after file and calmly read it. Before it was running before my eyes. I am afraid this is going to take ages.
We are on the same frequency that the dump I am making is from a device WITH Extended Rom installed. I was NOT soft-resetting during installation, so all Vodafone add-ons, are to be there now.
If You need the one without ExtRom as well, please tell me.
The upload works OK, I prepared a directory there, but uploading is to be done after longer waiting time.
Are You afraid the JASJAR file is not good ? I downloaded it because this one was proposed on this forum.
Ruud
Its not about the ROM its about the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe I'm not sure if ths is the exe file to update a Universal.
I dont have a Universal only a Himalaya and my up UpgradeUt starts with HimUpgradeUt... .
Was this file mentioned in the readme of the JASJAR exe?
my download is very slow... 70%
I only downloaded MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe because it was proposed here (for the Universal).
I have no Readme.txt inside the exe
EnterBL.exe
GetDeviceData.exe
ms_.nbf
nk.nbf
radio_.nbf
RUU.conf
RUU.dll
UI.dll
Well and of course the original upgrade file ROMUpgadeUt.exe, but I was suppose to delete it.
Only file which I can read is RUU.conf :
[PLATFORM]=857873
[RADIO_TYPE]=2
[SECURITY_FLAG]=1
[DECODER_KEY]=1
[RADIO_FLAG]=2
[GETADDR_TYPE]=1
[JUMPCODE_TYPE]=1
[FORMAT_TYPE]=2
[SCREEN_TYPE]=2
OK, TestWM5 is finally ready, will do compressing and uploading soon.
Ruud
Can someone answer the following for those who want to learn about roms in general more specifically in a HTC Universal:
1. What types of rom are in a universal?
2. What does each of the roms do?
3. What happens when the universal is hard reset and what role does each rom play?
4. What happens when upgrading each of the roms?
5. Is it possible to use roms from different brands of universal?
6. Is it possible to add or remove applications from a rom and then make them permanent after next hard reset? if so how?
7. What happens when roms are unlocked? what are the advantages?
8. What is the bootloader?
9. What are bootloader commands?
10. Why do people dump roms, how and where to?
Thanks
Paul
please read here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal all information you need in here,thanks
Hi!
Trying to give some answers. i think it should work for now, the rest you´ll find in wiki
1. What types of rom are in a universal?
- OS ROM
- Radio
- Extended ROM
(- Bootloader)
2. What does each of the roms do?
- Operating System
- the phone
- Patches and customizing for/by your provider
- for loading OS
3. What happens when the universal is hard reset and what role does each rom play?
- at hardreset the universal is as "new"
all settings and data is discarded an the os is installed again.
after install the custom patches (EXT ROM) are initialized. to avoid this, press the reset button right after the display configuration
4. What happens when upgrading each of the roms?
how du you mean ?
5. Is it possible to use roms from different brands of universal?
not sure, but i think that shouldn´t be a problem
6. Is it possible to add or remove applications from a rom and then make them permanent after next hard reset? if so how?
- yes but i think you have to "cook" a ROM for that
7. What happens when roms are unlocked? what are the advantages?
- you can add/remove files from the ext rom
8. What is the bootloader?
- don´t you use a computer?
- bootloader is used to initate the boot sequence
9. What are bootloader commands?
- i think you won´t need it
10. Why do people dump roms, how and where to?
- due to backup purpose
- to share ROM Versions
Great stuff viennacivicep2.
Out of interest, is there a tool that can be used to backup your apps and data when messing with the ROMs or do you have to install everything from scratch?
Just use any ol' backup software, eg Sprite
V
yes, try sprite backup or spb backup
all good software - depending on your needs
i´m using spb -> everythings fine after restoring your backup, and you´ll get an exe file
cheers!
yes, try sprite backup or spb backup
all good software - depending on your needs
i´m using spb -> everythings fine after restoring your backup, and you´ll get an exe file
cheers!
Hi there.
The HTC Diamond has recently been released in Canada under Rogers and I'd like to backup the stock rogers ROM for safe keeping (and sharing).
I've been trying to find instructions on how to do this and found:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2370527
Which is great, but after creating the RAW rom dumps, how do I flash the ROM backup back to the device?
Thanks!
noob edit: I apologize if this has been covered in the past. I have tried searching but surprisingly, I haven't found anything...
In my continuing research, I found this tool: HTC ROM Tool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311909
I recall seeing this on a diamond wiki page. Is there an updated version that has Diamond rom support?
Thanks,
No one here can help a lonely noob trying to learn? Is what I'm asking even possible? Thanks!
I'm a noob too, but what you do is, you get one of the kitchens, put the extracted files in baserom (or similar folder) extract all sys and OEM packages, then adjust it as you wish (by deleting), and create new rom with HTC rom tool, and then you flash it back.
I'm beginner myself, but this should work.
Make sure you have all Visual C++ and NET. packages installed on your PC, and try to install the kitchen directly on C:/ drive. It helps.
I got the Rogers Diamond last night as well. I extracted the Part0x.raw files (as per Pof's instructions), then used a kitchen to extract the SYS/OEM from Part02.raw and the XIP from Part01.raw.
I haven't cooked them yet to test, but will try tonight hopefully and maybe post it if I'm successful. I got a brick when I tried making the OS ROM out of an existing ROM, as described in the Hermes and Elf DumpRom wikis. So I guess cooking it instead is the safest way to go.
Also remember to flash the unsigned Hard SPL 1.93 by OliNex after you back up the SPL.
hello,
one possible solution is to use a kitchen. for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452184
put your raw's to BASEROM-folder.
put your original provider-rom in the same folder.
start !BEGIN
now you can select between two EXTRACT-MODEs.
first mode is extract ruu_signed.nbh only.
the second is for raw's with ruu_signed.nbh.
USE THE SECOND and wait until its finished.
now you can change or tweaks something - if you want.
follow the instructions and than you have your flashable rom.
BUT THE BACKUP/COPY - ROM is not for 100% the same like on your device.
for example: you have installed some programs with serial-key or activating by internet.
after restoring you have to enter/activating again.
some files will be changed back by original rom-files like the registry.
your personilized startmenu goes away - tweakees will lost.
the reult:
you will be angry.
after some experimantells now i used a combination of own cooked rom (with tweeks and buyed programs) and a backup-file which is not so big in MB.
okokur
My diamond has original ISR Orange rom.
I managed to backup the four parts raw files and the spl.
I want to make sure a few things.
Does it mean the radio has been backed up as well? Or the change of radio version is seperated from rom upgrading and spl?
I noticed that in here its claimed that spl file is .nbh, while the guide I followed in one of the posts here, of how to make full rom dump and spl, the code line using itsutils was
Code:
pmemdump.exe 0xa8000000 524288 SPLdumped.nb
My file is .nb, does it matter?
After I'll cook this raw files into a flashable rom, does it mean that in the future, when I'll restore to that rom
And return to this SPL, which i also made a backup of it,
I'll still have my warrenty?
Does the details appearing in the Settings > Device information will be completely the same?
Sorry for the newbie questions, Its new to me and Not every single question has a full answer somewhere
Thanks
Since this was a question I have moved it to the Q & A forum before I get spanked by a moderator.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1640484
The topic over there is clearly Excalibur related - so I believe it should be here.
anyway - why do you need bkondisk to get dumps of the existing partitions?
Do you have a Spanish ROM to flash on the device already or do you want to make one yourself (I doubt that)?
The usual sequence for flashing is:
1.) application unlock old OS
2.) run jump-SPL (a RAM replacement for the ROM SPL which does not care for CID lock)
3.) flash new OS
I also have backed up my old OS, but I have no idea how to flash that back. bkondisk can only READ - not write!
The dumped data are also still somehow "crypted" as the Samsung OneNAND storage which you dump has an own encoding.
Try to get a shipped ROM of the version that has a matching CID, so can be loaded without all the unlock/jump-SPL stuff.