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WM6.5 and Background wallpaper question.

Hey
wanted to know if the WM6.5 allows you to use full res and quality wallpaper?
not like on the regular HD wallpaper that shows only 512X512...
tnx =]

WM 6.5 allows you to use full screen images and they are crystal clear.

liav12 said:
Hey
wanted to know if the WM6.5 allows you to use full res and quality wallpaper?
not like on the regular HD wallpaper that shows only 512X512...
tnx =]
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It's not WinMo that's causing the problem with Touch HD background wallpapers, it's Touch Flo 3D.
So, if you would disable TF3D you could probably get nice quality with WinMo 6.1.
I have been digging around this issue and I do have a solution to get full resolution wallpapers with TF3D. Unfortunately, this process now requires a lot of messing around with Manila files, so it might not be for everyone. But I'm thinking about publishing my custom Manila wallpaper files, which basically require simply copy+paste into Windows directory and then restarting TF3D.

Rozenthal said:
It's not WinMo that's causing the problem with Touch HD background wallpapers, it's Touch Flo 3D.
So, if you would disable TF3D you could probably get nice quality with WinMo 6.1.
I have been digging around this issue and I do have a solution to get full resolution wallpapers with TF3D. Unfortunately, this process now requires a lot of messing around with Manila files, so it might not be for everyone. But I'm thinking about publishing my custom Manila wallpaper files, which basically require simply copy+paste into Windows directory and then restarting TF3D.
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That would be great.
I hate how the quality is degraded once you set the Wallpaper.
There is so much difference in quality when viewing a picture in "albums" as opposed to the home screen wallpaper.
I wonder why TF3D lowers the resolution on the home screen.
Please publish a solution. thanks

bigjee said:
That would be great.
I hate how the quality is degraded once you set the Wallpaper.
There is so much difference in quality when viewing a picture in "albums" as opposed to the home screen wallpaper.
I wonder why TF3D lowers the resolution on the home screen.
Please publish a solution. thanks
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I actually started a thread in General > Dev and Hacking about this very issue. It didn't get a lot of attention from people with Touch HD's, but none the less, I managed to get down to the bottom of the mysterious TF3D behavior and I can see that the info from that thread got to the people working on visual enhancements for Touch HD.
Basically, it's insanely stupid solution some lazy HTC programmer implemented.
Imagine that TF3D can display images that have maximum size of 512x512. Now imagine you have screen size that's 480x696 pixels (this is how big the wallpapers are). See the problem? The maximum image you can use is 184 pixels short to cover the whole screen.
And then you get a genius idea to use two 512x512 images to cover the screen area and allow full resolution wallpapers to be used. So you take the default HTC wallpaper, split it in two parts, align them perfectly on the screen so it looks as if they're one image - and problem solved!
Right?
Well, not quite. Yes, it will work for default background image, but what about custom wallpapers? Well, they were too lazy to make an automatized script that would split the images in two and align them on the screen.
Instead, they opt for a more convenient solution in form of taking custom wallpapers, shrinking them down into a single 512x512 box and then stretching this downsampled image back to 480x696 area.
And that's whats causing all these problems.
If you want a temporary solution, create 512x512 image - I bet it will look sharper then your 480x800 image.
A true solution is to cheat TF3D and import manually FOUR separate images that together form portrait and landscape wallpapers.
This can be done, and I will explain it in a separate post here when I get some free time. At the moment I'm too busy with FingerKeyboard

Wow, Rozenthal! That would be very interesting! It´s almost a dream I have: to see a quite sharp image on my TF3D Home screen.
A lot of people would be very glad with you if you teach us how to do this.
Thanks a lot in advance

It's not a dream I have it on my screen now...
The problem is in the fact that changing skins cannot be done through Settings tab. It requires editing the appropriate Manila files by using a Manila graphic editor on your PC. Also, this is something that will require at least moderate knowledge of some good graphic editing software (read: Photoshop), because you need to manually prepare split png files for portrait and landscape.
Then you take these files, load them into Manila files, compress them into a special TF3D graphic format, copy them to Windows directory overwriting the old files, turn off TF3D and then pick "Use default wallpaper" in your Settings / Wallpaper tab.
So, it's major pain in the a$$, and it's not something you would be doing on the road, or every day. But, as I said - it CAN be done.
The way I see it, we could probably get some users here to team up, learn the procedure and then simply offer zip-ed Manila files that other people can download and copy into Windows folder. That part is easy, it can be done by anyone. Preparing the wallpapers, however, isn't that simple.
Anyway, I will try to make a tutorial on how to do all this tomorrow.
In the mean time, you can check the thread I mentioned earlier. Altough, be warned that some of the final conclusion posts from that thread were lost during last sunday hack attack on XDA.

Using ringtones and finding wallpapers [help!]

Two questions:
I've had my Tmobile 2.1 TP2 for almost a year now, and this still stumps me: I have a crap load of ringtones. I want to save them to my SD card instead of my main memory, but when I go to set a ringtone, it doesn't give me the option of choosing the folder. It just goes to my ringtones/alerts from the main menu. How can I set a ringtone that's from my SD card?
Also, where can I go on the interwebs [website or xda] to find wallpaper SETS for the TP2 [a portrait picture that fits, and a matching or identical landscape picture]? I just got S2U2, and this flower and wrongly sized lake are killing me.
Thanks for your help in advanced. :]

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Two questions:
I've had my Tmobile 2.1 TP2 for almost a year now, and this still stumps me: I have a crap load of ringtones. I want to save them to my SD card instead of my main memory, but when I go to set a ringtone, it doesn't give me the option of choosing the folder. It just goes to my ringtones/alerts from the main menu. How can I set a ringtone that's from my SD card?
Also, where can I go on the interwebs [website or xda] to find wallpaper SETS for the TP2 [a portrait picture that fits, and a matching or identical landscape picture]? I just got S2U2, and this flower and wrongly sized lake are killing me.
Thanks for your help in advanced. :]
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First of all, place the ringtones in the root of the storage card, and it will recognise the ringtones in the Windows menu, I do the same thing
Secondly, try HDWall (just search) for Manilla, you can create high quality wallpapers with it that work for both Portrait and Landscape. You can also install Cookie's HQ Wallpaper mod with it, which makes the images even sharper!
For S2U2 you can just open the S2U2 settings, choose the Wallpaper tab and browse to your images/camera folder, and pick a nice wallpaper here! Super easy!

Thank you for the root thing. However, I'm looking for actual HDwallpapers, not the ability to create/implement them. Where can I find some?

AlandisN said:
Thank you for the root thing. However, I'm looking for actual HDwallpapers, not the ability to create/implement them. Where can I find some?
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Just try to search the forums! To give you a place to start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529576
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671551

[Q] A doubtless foolish question about wallpaper

I apologize in advance for what must be a foolish question. My inability to locate an answer when I search the forums just helps reinforce the notion that the answer is glaringly obvious, so I fully expect to be taken to task for having an IQ slightly below that of the average potted plant.
When I install a ROM on my Epic, and sometimes even when I simply apply a theme, it often has a very nice wallpaper that accompanies it. If I browse other wallpapers in any of what I would consider the "usual" locations (Wallpaper, Live Wallpapers & Gallery), I can't help but notice that the theme's wallpaper is not among the available choices. The implication is that if I were to select a different wallpaper - even just to see how it might look - I would be unable to return to the theme's wallpaper without re-flashing. Surely this can't be right?
Am I missing something? Wouldn't it make sense to simply include the wallpaper as a standard, everyday typical wallpaper, easliy accessible through the usual menus? Or is there, perhaps, some way of choosing "no wallpaper," which would default to the theme's background image?

default wallpaper is located in 2 places,one I know for sure is in the framework-res,the other I cant remeber,Ill have to wait to get to my PC when I get to the houe,in about 2 hours...
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Lol its ok I spent about 2 hours banging my head against the wall trying to figure this out too...but I found it out, so here's mine in my case:
I have emotionless beast theme, so that was the default wallpaper I was looking for. You'll need an explorer like astro file manager.
Go to the very root of the phone (keep hitting up till your in the folder simply named "/"
Navigate to "system", then to "framework"
In there is a .apk, not a folder, named framework-res (there prbly is a folder too but that's not what you want). Click it, astro will bring you up a menu, and hit "browse file"
In the next screen navigate to "res", then to "drawable-hdpi"
Finally you're in the right folder. Scroll down till you see the picture file named "default_wallpaper"...this should be it
Now remember, this is simply my case...but I suspect its a standard practice for devs to put the wallpaper there in most roms so I'm betting it'll work for whatever you're using
NOTE: you can't take a shortcut and simply search for "default_wallpaper" since its located in an .apk file, which astro doesn't search through.
Hope this helps!
Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700

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Squishy figured it out. It is tucked away in framework-res, where people who don't know better would probably never look.

DiGi760 said:
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Squishy figured it out. It is tucked away in framework-res, where people who don't know better would probably never look.
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Yayy me!
Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700

Thank you very much, squshy 7!
I believe you're entirely correct about finding it again, but I wonder if you (or anyone else) might have some idea as to why something so apparently simple as changing your wallpaper has to be so complex an affair as to force one to acquire software he might not own to look in places he'd never otherwise go to find files he might not know about and break them open to tinker about in areas he probably has no business messing around with...all to put back a silly wallpaper he didn't mean to change in the first place? Shouldn't part of the experience involve a certain amount of "user friendliness?"
Obviously, I'm no developer (potted plant-brained folk need not apply), so perhaps there's a reason why a ROM or Theme can't install the wallpaper in such a way as to become more easily accessible? Is it a problem with permissions that prevents copying the wallpaper into the appropriate directory? An issue with protecting the developer (as in, preventing his wallpaper from being distributed separately from his ROM/Theme? Something else entirely?
At any rate, thank you very much squshy 7! I appreciate your having pointed me in the right direction!

I think he just stuck it in the default hiding place for internal wall-papers. Each of google's launchers also has some internal wallpapers that are tucked away from people. Changing your wallpaper is easy. Changing back to image that is hidden from you is tougher.

DiGi760 said:
Changing your wallpaper is easy. Changing back to image that is hidden from you is tougher.
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Exactly my point! I'm just curious about why it should be hidden away in the first place - and not just a single ROM/Theme, but so far every one I've tried.
Since I'm fairly certain there's not some world-wide conspiracy of developers to go out of there way to make such an apparently simple thing difficult for their end users, it struck me that there must be a reason behind it, and while I appreciate squshy 7's work-around and can certainly follow his instructions, it leaves me curious about why anyone should have to.
Please note: My problem is fixed - it's now just my curiousity that wonders at the need for such complexities.

If I had to take a guess, it probably is for the same thing you are calling in to question: simplicity.
Think about it: changing the default (stock) wallpapers is easy enough...but have you ever actually "seen" the wallpapers, as in where they are located?
I haven't, simply because I've never looked. But we never wonder because they're so readily accessible from the wallpaper changer.
Again this sounds like they're doing nothing but making it harder for themselves and us. Why not put the default wallpaper for your ROM in the same location as the other wallpapers so its easier for us to change back and forth?
In my opinion, in that question lies what I feel is the answer: because maybe it's easier for them to put it in that drawable-hdpi.apk for some reason. So we're brought back to simplicity; it's just in this case it's for the devs sake.
All of this is, of course, entirely conjecture. I'm no dev and I really have no idea. But I think it's sound reasoning right?
Because all humans are lazy lol.
Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700

squshy 7 said:
Why not put the default wallpaper for your ROM in the same location as the other wallpapers so its easier for us to change back and forth?
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Those other default wallpapers that aren't from your gallery are usually built in to the launcher in a similar way.

DiGi760 said:
Those other default wallpapers that aren't from your gallery are usually built in to the launcher in a similar way.
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Ah - I think I'm beginning to understand. In other words, there's no there there. There's no single place, repository, directory or folder into which any installed image magically becomes a wallpaper? And if a developer wanted to make his wallpaper more "accessible" in a way that would simplify our lives, he'd have to sort of "crack open" whatever launcher we might be using and insert it, which is neither likely nor desirable. Do I have that right?
If so, then the best we could hope for would be an easily accessible copy of the wallpaper that we could insert into our own gallery for future use - which would still be preferable to the digital gymnastics currently required.
I'm slow, but I do get there eventually. Thanks for helping me sort it all out.

Pretty much. Sometimes you have to do the work to pull a wallpaper out of a launcher or framework-res. Once you have it, changing your wallpaper to it is the easy part.
If I go to change my wallpaper, it asks me to select wallpaper from:
Home screen wallpaper
Live wallpapers
Wallpaper gallery
Wallpapers (com.android.launcher)
Wallpapers (com.ebproductions.android.launcher)
The last three are for different launchers. The next to last one has the stock Epic wallpapers. These wallpapers are all stored in the apks.
I'd be willing to bet that there is a way to simply put the wallpaper in folder and point some setting to it. It isn't done that way because by default, that stuff is all packed in to different things where it is nice and self-contained and many rom developers just adjust the default settings until they have a reason to make a departure.

[Q] Where/how is the stock lock screen wallpaper stored?

I have been trying to figure this out for some time so I can be rid of as many TouchWiz apps as possible - and after replacing TWiz gallery with the AOSP one I can no longer change the lock screen wallpaper outside of a handful of images that appear to be contained within /system/app/PhotoWall.apk/res/raw
Which include the default dandelion image. However, replacing the jpg files within that APK didn't change my options. There is also a white/red/black squares TMobile thing that has 2 versions in /system/wallpaper/drawable but I tried placing my own image there (making the dimensions the same) and was still not able to select it.
I can't figure out where the dandelion pic is because I can still choose it even though I have replaced it's g1p1.jpg within that PhotoWall.apk file
Anybody know where these things are actually stored so I can choose my own wallpaper once again?
The reason I am not able to choose anymore is that the TWiz interface options for selecting Lock Screen wallpaper apparently only want to let you select it with it's own TWiz Gallery app or this PhotoWall app, thus it won't let me invoke the AOSP gallery app to pick an image.
Thanks in advance!

I've been poking around a little today but still can't figure out why it won't let me load my own jpg files in that app...
Anybody have any suggestions?

I want to know answer as well.
When i change system\framework\........framework-res.apk.......\res\drawable-hdpi\.........keyguard_default_wallpaper.jpg with another same sized 1280 x 1280 jpg file,
IT Never changes it on LOCKSCREEN!

ktmdave7 said:
I want to know answer as well.
When i change system\framework\........framework-res.apk.......\res\drawable-hdpi\.........keyguard_default_wallpaper.jpg with another same sized 1280 x 1280 jpg file,
IT Never changes it on LOCKSCREEN!
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After changing that did you try picking new wallpaper again? I'm going to have to check that apk out now...
Tried replacing "keyguard_default_wallpaper.jpg" with my own same 1280x1280 size image in drawable-hdpi and drawable-xhdpi but no dice. Still seeing the dandelion pic.

sorry for the bump but I am getting pretty lost here trying to figure out where this thing is stored. I keep digging through random APK's and coming up empty. Any dev's or clever users able to help?

Need help to find an APP.

Had before an app where i could choose an image and then place it as lockscreen..or homescreen with good croping. I could choose any nice picture and then it made it for me soo that the image will look nice in lockscreen. I had my phone replaced and can not remember the name of the app. Everytime i just want to place an image on lockscreen now i must crop it using phones standars apps...before it saves it...and it looks awfull....
Could somebody please give me any hints ...what APP can i use that solves my problem and makes the lockscreen look nice with any high resolution image.
Thanks in advance...