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Hey ya'll.
I've been working on a new idea for the sliding panels layout. It is fully functional so far, I am currently working on the exe for everyone, so that you may keep your current layout order and all icons, then have them swapped to the new panel layout.
Below are some pics of what it looks like. For all intensive purposes, what I have done is position the layout of the screen so that the panels still move left to right, but scrolling between panels is done also left to right using the icons at the bottom of the homescreen. You still push up and down to scroll between the panels, but it appears as though it's moving left to right.
I am still going to spice up the resolution of the pngs for the different icons, but here it is so far. In a few days, I will have a cab posted for everyone to download. This is a solo project for me, so it will take a little longer since there is no one but me working on this.
Check out post #2 for additional pics.
Let me know what you think!!
Here are some more photos
Here's the rest of the shots I have so far.
the pictures look great.
im just not sure what you mean by the up/down and left/right etc. stuff.
could you explain?
but besides thatttt... good job =]
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Simple, Watson.
LOL, what I meant was, you scroll through the panels just as before, there's no difference in the motions.
With this new layout though, instead of your condensed icons running from top to bottom, I have put them at the bottom of the screen in a bar/slider.
Now you have the entire homescreen to display your active panels, and have an even COOLER row of condensed icons, that scroll as you move from panel to panel. That's it.
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the pictures look great.
im just not sure what you mean by the up/down and left/right etc. stuff.
could you explain?
but besides thatttt... good job =]
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It looks like the launcher/panel/bar/whatever in MacOS X. "Mousing over" the icons with the up/down keys shows the panel for that icon. Right and left then work just like they do now. Right?
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Right-O me matey. By the way, wassup beartard, we haven't talked in forever. How's it going? I'll get with you on the im, later.
Hope you like this. We can customize this to make it work anyway you want. This has a bar like you call MacOS X, I'd like to refer to it as more of an "Object Desktop" kinda thing. I will have some more theme ideas for this as well with some new dll's for the bronzeres.dll. You can already see some of that from the screenshots I have.
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It looks like the launcher/panel/bar/whatever in MacOS X. "Mousing over" the icons with the up/down keys shows the panel for that icon. Right and left then work just like they do now. Right?
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Hi i love the idea and am going to try it out.
suggestion thought i think it might look cleaner if the panel on top the active one i mean had some sort of border or something to case it in. I bet that intails alot of work but i thought that might look nice.
maybe a light round cornered rectangle of equal proportions for all panels transparent just a faint white? LOL like the original slideing panels but youre setup lol
Looks really sweet so far man, will it include your weather app as well? Great work looks like it will be a much needed change to sliding panels!
It does look great, good job
Good job, it looks great. So when will this be available to use for download?
I am about ready
I have this setup for layouts already. I am trying to figure out how the hell to customize this for everyone, I am having luck, but it's coming along slowly.
I am glad you all like this so far. I am going to make this work with my weather app, plus as far the weather app is concerned I am gonna have to make it have this app be compatible, so there is a lot to do. I wanted to let you all know that the way this works will cause all of your custom panels to be located over a general "small" icon on the bottom row.
What I mean by that is, this uses your iconpaths in your registry, so that you don't have to use my custom made icons. You can keep your own. But since all of the custom panels have the same GUID value in the registry, it will put your icons for your custom panels all over the bottom row and not look pretty, so in order to fix this, I have to put all of your custom icons in one area on the bottom row of icons. If you look at the screenshots, you can see what I mean. All of your active icons will display over the generic hard drive icon, which represents your custom panels. Other than this one thing, it works flawlessly. Unless I here some serious flack about that one thing I just mentioned, I should have this out in a day or so.
Later
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Good job, it looks great. So when will this be available to use for download?
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Oh right on, well I will be waiting for this. Thanks again for putting something like this together.
Here's some more shots
I have toyed around with having a background for the icons at the bottom.
I am gonna make several different layouts with different pics, but this structure of the homescreen will stay the same regardless. It will always be a left to right sliding look.
Also, I have gotten integrated with my weather app.
Also, I have made some new xml's for this, you can choose from the iconbar uptop, which will have new icons, you can also have one with no iconbar, or one with the topbarnotes plugin on top. All of these will come with a version with a background for the iconbar or topbarnotes and a version of each with no background.
I will post more screenshots later. Got the family thing to do for now, enjoy.
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Oh right on, well I will be waiting for this. Thanks again for putting something like this together.
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this is tight.. i like this.. im waitin on u no pressure
Fantastic!
I love that you have the actual battery and signal strength percentage...
I absolutely love it.
Looks like a useful util
Thnx
So when is launch date?
Looks nice so far...
will it support portrait mode ?
OD man your killing me. I can't wait to try this out. I have been waiting for the install since you first posted this. JK don't rush it.
Guys
This is really annoying me now - I've fixed just about everything I wanted to fix (when using SPB MS3) but this glitch still persisted....I've gone back to a vanilla manila (say that 3 times fast!) with only changscreen and topbars installed to see if I can sort the problem but it is still there.
As you can see on the screenshot, after I have "tilted" any application allowed (via changescreen) I get this annoying little block glitch in the upper left corner of the device....when I tilt to landscape it stays there also until I soft reset.
I know it's not a mkassive issue, but it bugs the hell out of me now - anyone else had similar?
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This is really annoying me now - I've fixed just about everything I wanted to fix (when using SPB MS3) but this glitch still persisted....I've gone back to a vanilla manila (say that 3 times fast!) with only changscreen and topbars installed to see if I can sort the problem but it is still there.
As you can see on the screenshot, after I have "tilted" any application allowed (via changescreen) I get this annoying little block glitch in the upper left corner of the device....when I tilt to landscape it stays there also until I soft reset.
I know it's not a mkassive issue, but it bugs the hell out of me now - anyone else had similar?
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Sorry Wiggz I use various custom top bar icons but never get that issue!! Looking at the screenshot looks like the htc start logo icon is corrupt in shellres192.dll! where did you get the cab from?
I got the cab from this forum, however I have fiddled with numerous topbars with different start icons and all have the same. I recently went back to normal start bar (stock) and the same happened when tilting.....any more ideas would be greatly appreciated
Few questions:
- are you using FingerKeyboard?
- if yes, do you have it set to cover bottom bar in landscape mode?
- can the little block be clicked on?
Rozenthal said:
Few questions:
- are you using FingerKeyboard?
- if yes, do you have it set to cover bottom bar in landscape mode?
- can the little block be clicked on?
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Hi, Yes I do use Finger KB and thought it might well be an issue with this also but it's hard to say.
I have just tried to click on it and it shows the letter "q" on the middle left hand side of the display. So yes, it is an issue with finger kb - any idea how to solve it mate?
Thanks for your help so far.
EDIT: Changed the config to "show bar" on both portrait and landscape and that seems to have sorted it - can you explain why?
hi guys i'm a newbie here keen on knowing if any masters out here have successfully got rid of the 6.5.3 bottom bar for 6.5 styled. personally i really hate the big n ugly 6.5.3 bottom bar -- my phone has got 4 hardware buttons so there's really no need to upsize them on screen the only thing i might find upsizing useful is keyboard show/hide, which btw i find is exactly what wm7 is doing.
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/11/18/windows-mobile-7-ui-confirmed-by-microsoft
Um, the entire point of 6.5.3 is that bottom bar... That makes it far more finger friendly along with some other small tweaks to some drop downs and check boxes. Otherwise it is essentially the same as 6.5.
taoist said:
hi guys i'm a newbie here keen on knowing if any masters out here have successfully got rid of the 6.5.3 bottom bar for 6.5 styled. personally i really hate the big n ugly 6.5.3 bottom bar -- my phone has got 4 hardware buttons so there's really no need to upsize them on screen the only thing i might find upsizing useful is keyboard show/hide, which btw i find is exactly what wm7 is doing.
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/11/18/windows-mobile-7-ui-confirmed-by-microsoft
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you can search for 218xx series 6.5 rom. These are old style 6.5 roms.
Nagrom Nniuq said:
Um, the entire point of 6.5.3 is that bottom bar... That makes it far more finger friendly along with some other small tweaks to some drop downs and check boxes. Otherwise it is essentially the same as 6.5.
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I think a better way to say it is: When one goes to a 6.5.3 ROM, how does he get rid of the retarded oversized buttons at the bottom of the screen?
Nagrom Nniuq said:
Um, the entire point of 6.5.3 is that bottom bar... That makes it far more finger friendly along with some other small tweaks to some drop downs and check boxes. Otherwise it is essentially the same as 6.5.
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But I dont really think it's practical. They' could've simply made a larger top bar, with regular buttons at the bottoms.
So there is no way to make the bottom bar thinner/ return to the WM6.5 setup in 6.5.3?
Nagrom Nniuq said:
Um, the entire point of 6.5.3 is that bottom bar... That makes it far more finger friendly along with some other small tweaks to some drop downs and check boxes. Otherwise it is essentially the same as 6.5.
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seems like there's no way around this...my point is that i don't need the bottom bar to be finger friendly, i just need it to show labels for my left/right soft buttons, which are hardware buttons i can happily press with my finger.
the only ui improvement i see in 6.5.3 is the tabs being replaced by pivots, which sadly do not feature kinetic scrolling...think i'll still stick to 6.5 for the time being and wait to see what com5 will be like...
Or try my theme with the Plain Toolbar. Perhaps this is what you want?
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Um, the entire point of 6.5.3 is that bottom bar...
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ENTIRE POINT, lol...
WM6.5.3 has a big bottom bar. Period. Why make a bigger top bar where your thumb can't easily reach one handed. The idea is to make everything within reach of your THUMB, which is the fattest digit on your hand, thus needs a bigger area.
Stop using a WM6.5.x OS as a standard Wm6.5 device. Sure if you use your phone with your 1 hand while tapping the screen with your index finger of your other hand, then bigger buttons are a waste. But start using your phone with one hand, like we used to, and you'll appricieate the bigger buttons.
The whole new layout style is built from the ground up. Themes, Graphics, UI settings, image height, everything is revamped to allow the new style. You can't simply flip a switch and flip flop. It is what it is. If you don't like the new style, then use an build based off of the old style. It's that simple.
bottom bar is the best thing that has happened to WM
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bottom bar is the best thing that has happened to WM
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Seriously? Does it still look like this? Because this is the fugliest interface I've seen in a LONG time.
player911 said:
The whole new layout style is built from the ground up. Themes, Graphics, UI settings, image height, everything is revamped to allow the new style. You can't simply flip a switch and flip flop. It is what it is. If you don't like the new style, then use an build based off of the old style. It's that simple.
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I don't know any fix or tweak for the soft button bar, but you can tweak sizes of a lot of other features, such as the pop-up menu items which are way too big for my tastes, and the spacing in file explorer and and regedit. The main 6.5.x-specific registry keys are all in HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Today (menu and listview), and they are imported with the .tsk files. I've got a thread on it here.
I'll add, there are also registry keys that sound from their name that they might tweak the size of the soft key bar (like the group under HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Today\Softkeybar, lol), but I haven't played with them at all. I like the large size, even though I thought it was fugly as hell before I actually tried it out. The problem is that I think you may need to tweak other things, like the \RadioButton or \PushButton keys, so it may take some effort to shrink the thing down and to shrink the soft keys.
However the release date of WM7 has been delayed. Microsoft may still find WM7 has something that should be improved.
Farmer Ted: tks for the advice...i'll play around with the reg and see what happens
i think different ppl have different ideas about a big bottom bar, which boils down to dif usage habits and handsets. that's why i think ms should give an option for 'classic' bottom bar like they do with vista/7. i prefer operating my handset with thumb only as well, but as said my diamond2 has got 4 buttons so i don't actually have to press the bottom bar buttons on screen.
astart: i find wm7 bottom bar better from the screen shots, though the battery/signal indicators are just a dumb waste of real estate...
I was sceptical at first too. Didn't see the point of losing any screen space.
But I have to say that having the buttons below, although I have HW-buttons, is much easier to use. Just touch, not press.
At to that your skin of choice and you are all set
I do however find the topbar still something to work on.
Maybe an app to hide and unhide the top/bottom bars would do the trick..
If there is an need.
The bottom bar is not wasted screen space because it grew by the same amount the top bar shrunk. It is better in every way. There was a whole lot of extra room down there (two softkeys and the SIP button) while the top was crowded.
With the new way, there bottom now has 5 buttons, everything fits just perfectly, but now the top can have both clock and battery at the same time, a bunch of status indicators, and still hold the full program name on the left. No more screen space was used, yet more was fit on and start and OK are easier to hit with your fingers now (though those buttons have been on most recent devices making them a bit redundant, though keeping them is better than not having them at all).
khaytsus said:
Seriously? Does it still look like this? Because this is the fugliest interface I've seen in a LONG time.
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Lumic said:
You removed the fugliness. 6.5.x is an enjoyable experience now.
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Yeah, man !
Anyway, I don't understand why MS didn't remove the Start and close buttons altogether - after all, all (?) devices have these as hardware buttons. This way, apps would have 4 softkeys...
I can't believe Google was so stupid as to design ON-SCREEN buttons and not foresee screen burn-in issues.
Does anyone have any ideas on how we can fix Google's mistake?
If only there was a way to keep the Navigation Menu always hidden and then only make it appear when we need to use it...sort of like how you can hide the Windows Start bar and when you move your mouse, it animates into view on top of everything else.
Maybe, we can use the proximity sensor to show or hide the Navigation Menu? Like, when you swipe your hand over the sensor, it shows or hides it. Or, maybe make it shake activated? Like just shake your phone and the Navigation Menu appears/disappears. If it's shake activated, then we should make it so we can adjust the shake sensitivity because not everyone shakes the same.
Does anyone have any other ideas on how to solve this? Please post them!
I hope Google tracks this thread and patents and uses our ideas. Or else, give us tactile or capacitive buttons in the next Nexus!
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If only there was a way to keep the Navigation Menu always hidden and then only make it appear when we need to use it...sort of like how you can hide the Windows Start bar and when you move your mouse, it animates into view on top of everything else.
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I'm sure there is a ROM or two that does this. I know one for the N7 has that feature... I think it was Glazed. Maybe their GNex ROM has it also.
I haven't had any screen burn-in issues in 8 months of owning the phone so unfortunately I can't help there. good luck.
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I can't believe Google was so stupid as to design ON-SCREEN buttons and not foresee screen burn-in issues.
Does anyone have any ideas on how we can fix Google's mistake?
If only there was a way to keep the Navigation Menu always hidden and then only make it appear when we need to use it...sort of like how you can hide the Windows Start bar and when you move your mouse, it animates into view on top of everything else.
Maybe, we can use the proximity sensor to show or hide the Navigation Menu? Like, when you swipe your hand over the sensor, it shows or hides it. Or, maybe make it shake activated? Like just shake your phone and the Navigation Menu appears/disappears. If it's shake activated, then we should make it so we can adjust the shake sensitivity because not everyone shakes the same.
Does anyone have any other ideas on how to solve this? Please post them!
I hope Google tracks this thread and patents and uses our ideas. Or else, give us tactile or capacitive buttons in the next Nexus!
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Like 98% of the issues around here I've never had this problem. Sometimes I think I'm the only person with a problem free Nexus. Nevertheless, jaseglenn4 has a thread discussing this. You'll find some info there, good luck:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606237
I have screen retention with my keyboard and that's about it.
Sometimes it's fairly noticeable, sometimes it's not, not bothering me enough to get it replaced.
I just changed my habits so that I rotate the screen 90° to the right whenever I use landscape (web browsing and lots of other things) so as to switch the menu to the opposite side. I figure with that usage pattern it'll take twice as long to notice any burn in.
With low brightness settings in most cases I figure this'll be longer than I expect to keep the phone anyway.
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I heard a myth that if you had screen burn in issue you can reduce it by setting a fullscreen white image, crank it up to max brightness and leave it there for 1-2 hours.. it's not gone but it'll be reduced..
Can someone confirm this?
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Yes some roms have the expandable desktop option to make it full screen. I see some people use that and LMT so they don't have to use nav bar instead just gestures to move around phone
Don't ever buy a phone with an amoled display again. *solved*
good day.
It's not going to burn in. Your screen would have to be on for days and days consecutively, nonstop, with the keys never hiding or changing position. And even then with the stock color of the keys it's even less likely.
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Has anyone got burned in images of the buttons on their phone right now? Or is this a "this might happen" question? Have been using mine for a good few months now and there is no sign of this issue!
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I have screen retention with my keyboard and that's about it.
Sometimes it's fairly noticeable, sometimes it's not, not bothering me enough to get it replaced.
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x2, and even then it's only when I have a gray background
Xadin said:
Has anyone got burned in images of the buttons on their phone right now? Or is this a "this might happen" question? Have been using mine for a good few months now and there is no sign of this issue!
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I think the reason Google made the virtual keys grey is for this reason solely. It's not full white so there shouldn't be able burn-in issues.
I commonly see image-retention (keyboard shadows etc.) but not burn-in. I highly doubt anyone has the latter.
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I think the reason Google made the virtual keys grey is for this reason solely. It's not full white so there shouldn't be able burn-in issues.
I commonly see image-retention (keyboard shadows etc.) but not burn-in. I highly doubt anyone has the latter.
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Soooo, this is a non-issue. Good to know!
You have any idea how long it takes for burn in to occurred? Last time I try, it took a week or two, with the screen on 24/7 to get a little burn in on my laptop LCD display. It went away after I turn off the screen for a night.
For the nexus to have a burn-in onscreen button happened? Good luck with that.
Neither mine or my gf's have this issue. Now my nexus 7....it has it bad....
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Enhanced said:
I think the reason Google made the virtual keys grey is for this reason solely. It's not full white so there shouldn't be able burn-in issues.
I commonly see image-retention (keyboard shadows etc.) but not burn-in. I highly doubt anyone has the latter.
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What's the difference between image-retention and burn-in?
The issue I'm seeing is that when the screen is white or a light color, I can see where the Navigation Menu used to be (when I hide it).
I hide top and bottom bar so I avoid any burn in.
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You have any idea how long it takes for burn in to occurred? Last time I try, it took a week or two, with the screen on 24/7 to get a little burn in on my laptop LCD display. It went away after I turn off the screen for a night.
For the nexus to have a burn-in onscreen button happened? Good luck with that.
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burn in is a lot easier on amoled displays....
your comparison makes no sense
I have seen a little retention but nothing i would worry about. Usually goes away after a few seconds.
Personally i love the on screen nav buttons.
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I hide top and bottom bar so I avoid any burn in.
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How do you hide the nav bar?
I am trying to figure out a way to have the navigation bar rotate with the orientation of the screen on my brand new S4. I have looked everywhere and couldn't find any info. In portrait I like having the nav bar at the bottom of the screen but I would prefer in landscape mode to have the navigation bar on the right side of the screen. Does anyone know how to accomplish this because I am lost. Thank you in advance for your help.
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I am trying to figure out a way to have the navigation bar rotate with the orientation of the screen on my brand new S4. I have looked everywhere and couldn't find any info. In portrait I like having the nav bar at the bottom of the screen but I would prefer in landscape mode to have the navigation bar on the right side of the screen. Does anyone know how to accomplish this because I am lost. Thank you in advance for your help.
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Completely agree, probably my biggest issue with this tab. Looked for a bit after buying and never found anything. I just want it to do what my note 8 does.
If you figure it out let us know
Yup. I was super annoyed too. What I did was I switched to nova launcher and turned off the dock. Put my icons where I wanted them to be and ensured the gestures were correct for swipe up and down.
Works. I’m still trying to get things just right.
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I am trying to figure out a way to have the navigation bar rotate with the orientation of the screen on my brand new S4. I have looked everywhere and couldn't find any info. In portrait I like having the nav bar at the bottom of the screen but I would prefer in landscape mode to have the navigation bar on the right side of the screen. Does anyone know how to accomplish this because I am lost. Thank you in advance for your help.
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Have a look at this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ace.jun.simplecontrol
I'm using Nova and my navigation bar rotates with the screen.
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I'm using Nova and my navigation bar rotates with the screen.
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Well that's what op is trying to avoid.
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Well that's what op is trying to avoid.
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Gotcha... From the first line looked like he wanted it to rotate, then on later I see not. So actually we don't want the navbar to rotate.
My pixel 2 XL nav bar performs as the OP wants... I will check settings not sure...
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Have a look at this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ace.jun.simplecontrol
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Unfortunately the app you suggested requires a level of accessibility services that forces you to remove encryption from the tablet, which I am not willing to allow. Thanks for the recommendation though.
I had a Google pixel C until I recently cracked the screen and I went out and bought this tablet because of the specs. However one thing that bugs me is when the screen rotates while using Nova Launcher my icon dock stays on the right of the screen instead of switching to the bottom of the screen to match the orientation. Am I missing something here? I know the o p was referencing the navigation bar but I have a similar issue with the icon dock in Nova Launcher.
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I am trying to figure out a way to have the navigation bar rotate with the orientation of the screen on my brand new S4. I have looked everywhere and couldn't find any info. In portrait I like having the nav bar at the bottom of the screen but I would prefer in landscape mode to have the navigation bar on the right side of the screen. Does anyone know how to accomplish this because I am lost. Thank you in advance for your help.
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When I first bought my Tab S4 I was annoyed when I found that the dock does not show at the bottom when the screen is in landscape mode. Instead it stays on the side. I finally found a post that solved this problem for me.
Your issue seems to be the reverse, so maybe the reverse of the solution I tried would work for you which is reducing the screen zoom in the Display settings in the main Settings page.
Good luck!