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Headphones for XDA Orbit

Does anyone know if I can get other headphones for my XDA Orbit? Because of the mini usb connector factor - I am thinking it may prove tricky or can we use the mini usb to 3.5mm jack I have heard mentionned ?

i have tried a Motorola V3 mini usb to 3.5mm adapter with my MDA Compact3, it didn't work!! sounds continued to play though phone, no sound though headphones.

This is what you need: http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142090
It converts the strange HTC 11-pin mini usb to a 3.5mm socket
Not in stock yet though.

is ther an adapter that functions simaler to the sony phones adapters, it goes from the port on the phone to a smapp 3.5 jack and microphone, then any earphones can be plugged in, so that you get to use ur own eaphones but can still use it to make and recieve calls

TheBrit said:
This is what you need: http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142090
It converts the strange HTC 11-pin mini usb to a 3.5mm socket
Not in stock yet though.
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Thanks TheBrit That jack looks like it would fix the issue of different headphones but I wonder would there be any issue with the FM radio. I was thinking could you do a magiver ,using the existing usb headphones but solder different headphones from the microphone part might also be the way forward if that makes sense!

yea, that's wat I was saying, have a headphone socket after the volume control and mic...
I imagin this would solve the problem of the radio aswell...

Well, Thanks for the ideas - went to Maplins and bought an inline socket - followed this tutorial and happy days !!
http://www.4winmobile.com/tutorial-replace-hermes-headset-connector-with-35mm-socket-vt3146.html
Definately worth doing !!! Cheers

http://www.absolutesurf.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=66
Did it sucessfully! Sounds awesome.. I might wanna dump my stereo BT for this.. haha

Mini USB > 3.5 Jack?

Any adaptors that will allow me to use proper 3.5 inch headphone jack in place of the mini USB ones ( i dont like the in ear phones) checked ebay and couldnt see anything?

you want get one of these http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142090 - Mike

Ouch, that thing is both horribly badly designed and prohibitively expensive- it's going to stick out what looks like an inch by itself, most headphone plugs will add another inch on top of that- I need something that fits flush with the bottom of the phone (comes out at a right angle) AND supplies an input for the charger. One can only dream!
The orbit would make a great on-mains Wifi internet radio if such a gubbin existed- hook up some speakers, start TCPMP, sorted!

in which case if you don't like wires stop messing around and get a set of A2DP compatible headphones - the quality is very good, but far more costly than a cable addaptor - the choice is yours - Mike

Might have been worth while if I didn't use an iPod for all my portable audio needs- have you seen any A2DP compatible speakers around?
Looks like there are hacks out there, but no official products, the combination really would just turn the Orbit into an incredibly expensive Wifi radio! But where's the fun in just going out and buying a proper one!

Have a look at the products made by Parrot there are a few Bluetooth audio add on boxes, I fail to see the relevance to WiFi?? as the A2DP profile is Bluetooth - it even works on the T-Mobile MDA-CIII which has no WiFi - Mike

I say wifi radio because I listen to internet radio stations around the house using the Orbit, and the ol' tinternet comes via the wifi doohickey!
A2DP is, of course, a bluetooth profile and would be the method over which I get decent sounding audio from the Orbit to some speakers whilst still having the Orbit plugged into mains so the battery doesn't get sucked dry... that said I think the Orbit will last a good few hours streaming internet radio, although I have yet to put that to the test.
My other solution would be, as mentioned above, an adaptor that allows both the charger AND headset to be plugged in- I can't see this as being technically impossible.
With a brief cursory investigation I have discovered, I think, that the headset uses a proprietary 6-pin connection on the opposite side of the mini-usb connector. The headphones do not use the 4-pin standard mini-usb connector on the other side, but a connector that uses both should be reasonably simple to produce. Ergo it should be childs play for a third party to produce an Artemis dock that contains not only a connection to USB but a standard 3.5mm amplified microphone socket alongside a standard 3.5mm amplified stero audio jack... not to mention a button on the front of the dock for picking up calls and a volume slider if you really wanted them.
Call me crazy, but I want one of those!

You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich

Dear lord! You've made my day! Hmmm, a little jiggery pokery and I might even be able to incorporate that into a dock but it'll be fantastic for charging and listening to net radio at work- takes that little extra load off my desktop PC.
Cheers!

Glad I could help

richiev4 said:
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
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Hi,
Does anyone know if the above would work with a set of mini stereo speakers with a 3.5mm headphone jack (like the walkman speakers i used to have, back in the day...) to listen to the FM radio while charging the phone from mains? Or would you still need the headphones plugged into get any FM reception?
Daft question maybe, but I wondered whether the device would just use the speaker wires as an antenna instead of the headphone wires?

It will work fine, I am going to use mine to connect my orbit to my home stereo and charge it at the same time.
Rich

2.5mm 3 pole jack plug
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings

http://www.expansys.com/s.aspx
try doing a search for "2.5mm"

A very good Items for the Artemis on EbaY :
look :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/FOR-ORANGE-SPV-E...ryZ14419QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adatper
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.

cegmawr said:
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
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Is this so you can listen to music from the Orbit? I've had difficulty on my bike with this...music cuts out and wont restart after phone call is over. In the end, I bought the Autocom bluetooth dongle and now bluetooth the Orbit to the bike. I get phone calls and GPS just fine, but I use a wired iPod for music.

cegmawr said:
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
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Does this support the Artemis? It isn't in the list....

There was a posting for the mini USB PinOut some Time ago. Look in the wiki Section to find it. Here is what they showed up with.
Maybe This will Help someone to build their own Adapter or whatsoever.
Greetings
Jabami

so what was the general concensus with using Autocom? Did the 2.5mm jack work?
I want to avoid using the bluetooth option on autocom, since I might just as well go for a Scala bluetooth headset instead if the jack doesnt work...

Make usb to 3.5mm jack adapter

I was wondering if i could grab a normal mini-usb to usb cable, cut the normal usb ending and sold the audio wires to a 3.5mm jack, so to use it with any audio device.
I just need to know wich of the wires inside the usb are the ones wich carry audio?
if i'm able to make it will make a tutorial although my english it's not that good
just so i don't have to break the original wire.
thanks

Not really - it can't be done
Here's the pin-out diagram
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
but you would noticed that the "miniUSB" socket on the Touch is actually a 2 in 1 device, a standard mini USB only have the bottom connection which deals with normal data traffic and charging, the top connectors carries the audio which the standard mini USB don't connect to (physically it can't).
But you can buy specially made adaptor to provide USB to audio sold on this site or elsewhere, such device make use of the more special connector to connect with the audio side.
I have 2 of such adaptor, they cost around USD15 a piece. Yes a bit more expensive than normal USB but they look neat

yeah, i wrote the post beforing having my elf, wich luckily was en ELFIN i'm really happy with it, i received it 3 hours ago
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Tranworld said:
I have 2 of such adaptor, they cost around USD15 a piece. Yes a bit more expensive than normal USB but they look neat
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I paid mine about 3/4 euros....
Have a look here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...egory=10364&tc=photo&_trksid=p1713.m153.l1262
And this is STEREO quality....

i'm from argentina so, i can't buy on ebay. The only adaptor here cost aprox U$S 35
that's expensive but it's my only choice

Just purchased my adapter from ebay and got it the other day... Works great. I have it connected to an FM transmitter so that all the audio (mp3's and gps audio) out to my car strereo.
Right after I purchased the unit I looked around and saw one with a built in microphone so I could have made it into a handsfree unit and have the audio go over the car stereo... DOH! I may do the upgrade in the next month. The adapter I got with shipping only cost 8 dollars.

cbaty said:
i'm from argentina so, i can't buy on ebay. The only adaptor here cost aprox U$S 35
that's expensive but it's my only choice
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cbaty,
i'm from brazil and i found this site about adapter http://www.expansys.com.br/p.aspx?i=149937...
i don't know if works very well and if is possible to sell to argentina...
but, you can try....

I purchased a mini usb to rca cable advertised for use with the Moto Razr phones. I know that the car charger for those phones works for my HTC. Heck, I could even charge my phone from my PS3 mini usb cables meant for charging controllers.
I received the cable today and I can't get it to work with anything.
Initially I tried it with my car's aux input. No workey.
Tried it on my home stereo. No workey.
I guess my assumption of this cable working for me was wrong. The only way I can get audio out of my HTC is with the supplied headset. Does anyone know how to convert that to RCA instead of 3.5mm?
Thanks.

The regular mini usb cables don't carry audio from the HTC Touch. That's why the earphone's they give you have a different connector, it looks like a mini USB but it's not.
It's easy to take apat the HTC earbuds and splice them to a 3.5mm jack so you can use standard earbuds. I did it and it took less than 5 min. There is another thread about it here somewhere with a step by step and everything.

i hav modified the original hands free, removed the earpieces and soldered a 3.5 mm socket into the call receive / volume adjust part. working fine so far ...

I did the same, but I broke the mic while soldering
Does anyone have the wiring diagram for the elf handsfree so I can know what I am trying to fix?

abt d port
hey.....u get d branded mini usb to 3.5mm jack in htc accessories.........jus chk it out buddy....

cbaty said:
i'm from argentina so, i can't buy on ebay. The only adaptor here cost aprox U$S 35
that's expensive but it's my only choice
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There are two types, one is a usb connector and a short cable to a earphone socket, and one is all in one...
I can get them in the UK on ebay for around $5 - add the same again for postage, and I'll get one and mail it to you - Paypal me when you get it... if you want me to, let me know and I'll work out the exact costs.
Here's some links, like I said, find one you want, I can buy it here and ship it for you.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stereo-Headph...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3-5mm-Headpho...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

If I am not mistaken, you can do one better - not only you get USB to 3.5, it will include the handsfree clip-on controls (mic, answer button, volume etc), allowing you to use the earphones of your choice. Which was the absolute must for me, because my ears are too small for the regular plugs. Not only that, most earphones included in the box are average quality at best, none will beat Sennheiser anyway.
I got one like that for my LG Prada, because the buggers use proprietary connector, which sucks. Paid $4.50 USD with FREE delivery to New Zealand. Can't beat that, I think. Let me see if the same seller has one for Elf.
Something like this http://cgi.ebay.com/e12M-3-5mm-Adap...39:1|66:2|65:15|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

enigma1nz said:
If I am not mistaken, you can do one better - not only you get USB to 3.5, it will include the handsfree clip-on controls (mic, answer button, volume etc), allowing you to use the earphones of your choice. Which was the absolute must for me, because my ears are too small for the regular plugs. Not only that, most earphones included in the box are average quality at best, none will beat Sennheiser anyway.
I got one like that for my LG Prada, because the buggers use proprietary connector, which sucks. Paid $4.50 USD with FREE delivery to New Zealand. Can't beat that, I think. Let me see if the same seller has one for Elf.
Something like this http://cgi.ebay.com/e12M-3-5mm-Adap...39:1|66:2|65:15|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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Yes, there are a few options - I personally don't like the handsfree adaptop becasue you end up with too many wires in your packet... I use mine with some sennheiser phones with short cable, to make it neater.
I do have a set of Motorola S9 bluetooth headphones which work great, but you do get the very occasional cut out, and you have to remember to keep them charged up....
I think the all-in-one-block adaptor is the neatest for keeping everything tidy and untangled.

i got the A-200 HTC audio adapter it's gr8 ... usb (IN) and 3.5 , 2.5 , usb mini for headset and usb for charger (OUT)
it's really gr8 .. but i have a small problem ... sometimes the voice dailing work by itself !!
i mean the voice speed dail prog works and ask me to say the name to call ,,, and as the music in on or if iam talking ..the device go wiz the nearest voice tag and call !!!
and when i called the service center the told me tht may be the prob, with the adapter!!
anyone have the same prob ?

help........Who have 'iswish'
I come from China, who have the iswish this software? Is it all right to give me 1? thank you!!!!!!!!!!!

wher can I get this in india??

hey, here you are
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3141/p3300extusb.jpg

Thank you very for this one, i really need this.

HTC mini-USB to 4 pole 3.5 mm

Is there such a thing as a mini-USB to 3.5 mm 4 pole adapter that works for the HTC Touch? I want to use a 3.5 mm headset with it.

sure
expensys and most other online stores like it got them coming out their rear end
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=176772

The same one that comes with Touch Pro should work.

Thanks for your suggestions, but is there something that is a bit more compact? Something like this but with 4 poles instead of 3: http://www.amazon.com/Headset-Adapter-PPC6800-Verizon-T-Mobile/dp/B0016D9URO

Rudegar said:
sure
expensys and most other online stores like it got them coming out their rear end
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=176772
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I have been looking for a 3.5mm headset (not headphones, the ones with in-line mic and the extra terminal), but none of them seem to work with the mic. I have one I got for my hermes a while back that has three inputs - HTC USB, proper mini usb and a 3.5mm headphone jack. Very cool for using with desktop speakers and charging or syncing at the same time, but no use if you are trying to use a 3.5mm headset socket from a Nokia.
However, I just found one on ebay that does seem to work with 3.5mm headsets. Ordered one from the US for £9 all-in, although there are some in the UK for £15+pnp. Search for "HTC Headset Adapter" and they come up.

One comment about these: HTC has started making 10-pin mini-USBs. The bottom row of pins are still used for communicating with activesync, but the top row is now for the audio and mic. Traditional 5-pin mini-USBs do not have the top row; hence they'll only work for activesync and not audio functions.
So if you buy a 3.5mm adapter, make sure it is 10-pin and not 5!

Connect TP2 to car radio on 3.5mm jack

Hi all,
Would it be possible to connect my TP2 to the aux 3.5mm jack on my car radio to effectively play music off my phone via the radio system?
I suppose once off a mini usb to mail 3.5mm jack cable would be required, but would this output work?
Anyone tried this?

This will work. There are loads of adaptors out there that plug into the miniUSB and give you miniUSB (for charging), headset port and 3.5mm jack. Or various combinations of these.
Just couple one of those with a regular jack-to-jack lead and you're good to go.
Alternatively, pair a bluetooth stereo clip that has a jack connector for your own headphones, then connect that headphone port to the car stereo.

Did it a few time, I can confirm you it works just fine.
I was using one of Brando regular adaptators that plug into the miniUSB.

My wife and I have done this with our kaisers and now the tilt 2's. Our tilt 2's came with the htc adapters in the box from att. If you didnt get one of these, you can get an adapter off ebay pretty cheap.

Use an FM transmitter
I use an FM transmitter (Belkin and others make these) that is powered from the vehicle "cigarette lighter". On one end is the power and on the other end is a 3.5 mm headphone plug, just like a standard pair of headphones uses.
Connect that to the headphone jack on the TP2 (via the adapter if you don't have the CDMA version), and tune your car radio to the selected frequency.
It's a very nice solution for GPS or long speakerphone calls where you don't have to say much or even speak at all. You can have a 2-way call like this, too, of course.

samuel613 said:
I use an FM transmitter (Belkin and others make these) that is powered from the vehicle "cigarette lighter". On one end is the power and on the other end is a 3.5 mm headphone plug, just like a standard pair of headphones uses.
Connect that to the headphone jack on the TP2 (via the adapter if you don't have the CDMA version), and tune your car radio to the selected frequency.
It's a very nice solution for GPS or long speakerphone calls where you don't have to say much or even speak at all. You can have a 2-way call like this, too, of course.
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I also have a belkin transmitter but my tilt 2 wont connect audioto car speakers , any settings or plug and play on your ?thanks

carhigh said:
My wife and I have done this with our kaisers and now the tilt 2's. Our tilt 2's came with the htc adapters in the box from att. If you didnt get one of these, you can get an adapter off ebay pretty cheap.
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I also use the HTC adapter that was included with the Tilt2. It provides a 3.5mm audio jack, plus you can charge the phone at the same time by plugging a cigarette lighter to mini-USB charger to the HTC adapter.

jsaid said:
I also have a belkin transmitter but my tilt 2 wont connect audioto car speakers , any settings or plug and play on your ?thanks
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You're just connecting the FM transmitter to your Tilt2 using a 3.5mm to mini-USB adapter, correct? You shouldn't need to adjust any setting on the phone. If headphones work with your phone, the FM transmitter should also.
You might need to scan around for an FM station that is not used, or even faintly receiving a radio station. Pick one that is just pure white noise.

jsaid said:
I also have a belkin transmitter but my tilt 2 wont connect audioto car speakers , any settings or plug and play on your ?thanks
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You responded to a post over a year old, so don't hold your breath that the person you responded to will answer.

redpoint73 said:
You're just connecting the FM transmitter to your Tilt2 using a 3.5mm to mini-USB adapter, correct? You shouldn't need to adjust any setting on the phone. If headphones work with your phone, the FM transmitter should also.
You might need to scan around for an FM station that is not used, or even faintly receiving a radio station. Pick one that is just pure white noise.
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headphone work ok , the transmitter work ok in my laptop and other phone .