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Contacts / Edit before dialing a phone number

Hi everyone... I am new to the PPC world... being just recently swatch from my Treo600 to a new XDA2s, I am having a little difficulty getting used to the Microsoft way of doing things in PPC2003... I am just wondering is there anyone who can help me or point me to the right direction where I can get some external program that can help me from going insane... here's my problem... I usually keep a huge contact list with all my customer, supplier, co-worker, family and friends contact all in my PDA... so the usual way for me to make a phone call is to search it from the contact list... but here's my problem, I travel alot with my job and depending on my current location, I have to edit the number in my contact before I dial the number... in my old palm, I can simply edit the number before I dial that number (there's a funtion on my palm that allows you to edit before call... so it allows me to edit the number without physically changing the number in my contact list)... I am just wondering can PPC do that? Or is there any program in PPC that will allow me to do that? As far as I can see... in PPC, as soon as I have search for a contact and then I click on his or her number with my stylist... it will automatically dial... I can not edit it before I dial... the only way I can edit it before I dial is to physically edit the contacts... which is very annoying as I sync my contacts with my exchange server, I don't wanna to have to have all my contact get mess up with different area code and dialling code from different country... anyone know how can I solve this problem? Thanks for your help in advance... I very much appriciate all of your advice in advance... Peter

I think the most straightforwards solution here is to store all of your numbers in the international dialling format; that way, wherever you are, your device will place the call correctly
For example - if I had a contact in Glasgow, UK, it would be stored as +44141xxxxxxx (+44 for UK, 141 for Glasgow and the remaining seven digits as the local number)
In my experience whenever I have been abroad, any calls to any of my stored numbers are placed correctly first time by either my SmartPhone or PPC.
If you're problem is regarding a slightly different issue then please expand on your problem by detailing what you mean by "modifying" your contact before you dial.

My problem is a little bit more complicated I think... I already has most number stored in the international dialing format... but my problem is that, depending on my location, I have to dial a certian set of numbers in front of the phone number to be dial in order for me to save on long distance and roaming... for example, while I am roaming in Mainland China if I want to dial home in Hong Kong with my mobile... normally, I will dial 0085226****88 but that will cost me like USD2 per minute... but if I dial with a prefix of 17909 (hence I will type in: 179090085226****88) then my per minute charge will now be something like USD0.10 per minute... which is a huge saving especially when I make roaming and long distance call all the time... the same thing in Hong Kong, if I dial 1666 before I dial long distance, I will get a much higher savings over regular long distance... my problem is that I can not possibly store all of these information for all the locations that I am going to be in, each places that I am going to be in, have a different sets of number... so is there any intellegent way to add additional numbers in front of the number stored in the contacts before it is being dialed in pocket pc? I know on my old palm... I can solve this problem in two ways... 1) I can set a certain dialing prefix before the system dial any number (normally I leave that blank, as I prefer edit before dial function)... I can use this prefix function but it will require me to change the prefix when I am at a different location but it is a workable solutions... is there something like that in PPC? 2) The second way to solve this was the edit before dialing function on the palm... I just click on the number, it allows me to edit the number temporary before it is automatically paste onto the phone software and before the phone dials it...
Anyway, I know this is very complicated and it is a very rare issues thats probably just affecting me or a very small number of users... but it will be great if there's some simple solutions to this... but I think this problem is mainly due to the lack of flexiblilty in the contact list rather then the function of the phone itself! :O) Anyway, thank you very much for your help and suggestions again... very much appriciate it :O) Peter

Try if this works
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Can you please post the link again? It doesn't work :O) Thanks for your help :O) What kind of program is it? :O)

here's the link
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you got it all wrong
... if you ask me: your approach is wrong. Here are the basics. Windows XP, for instance and Outlook, that is the source of the contacts (and phone numbers and other details that are entered), stores phone numbers in this 'international' format:
country code (MS has a list of countries and codes of its own)
are code (another, separate field) and
number
If you respect the fields provided by Outlook then you get a number generated by Outlook that looks like this:
+381 (064) 6185250
THIS is the 'correct' international format recognised by Microsoft Phone Dialer (well not actually MS but Active Voice, but that is a completely different issue)
My point is that +448704364673 is NOT a correct international phormat, because MS cannot differentiate between the international country code and long distance (area code) and therefore the phone dialer cannot parse the numbers correctly.
NOW, how to get the system to know WHERE you are and should it use the area code when dialing or you are in the area your friend is, or you want to call a toll free number that is in 'another' area, or you are dialing a client abroad etc. Well, there is the 'Dialing Rules' settings! THERE you create a profile (home, office, abroad etc.) and provide the area code for the dialer to differentiate...
This is all well with the Windows XP/Outlook 2002+ I know well, BUT when it comes to PPC... sorry, I have the same problem...>
FACTS:
fact no. 1: Outlook separates phone numbers in groups of>
country code
long distance code (area code)
number
fact no. 2: phone numbers entered this way are stored in a format>
+381 (064) 6185250
fact no. 2: Microsoft Phone Dialer recognises this number and dials correctly
via a voice modem... (headset or speaker/mike required)
Question: what hapens when contacts entered this way into Outlook are sunchronized with the
Pocket PC (Windows Mobile 5.0)?
Answer : all contact's numbers are entered into the Contacts list in the 'correct' format.
(the same format with the bracket, as is noted in PC Outlook)
My findings: the problem arrises when you use your mobile capable Pocket PC
(i.e. the super cool Qtek 9000) and try to dial someone on to his mobile or office phone that are on another
area code...
the Pocket PC, or Windows Mobile 'Phone dialer' dials EXACTLY
as the number is entered in the above mentioned format
(the mobile operator recognises the + at the beggining of the number, but
does not understand the spaces and the brackets!!! and offcourse
the mobile operator returns an error voice message that a wrong number has been dialed!
What am I to do?
Can I find/download/install a proper phone dialer (i.e. MS Phone Dialer) that comes with Windows?
Phone Dialer 1.5
Developed for Microsoft by Active Voice
http://www.activevoice.com/dialer
bottom line is that CISCO systems aquired this Phone Dialer in 2001 and Active Voice discontinued developing/supporting whit app. (link on the Active Voice site is outdated and no support on MS site, as well)
(please do not post solutions as: "you should reformat your number entries etc. because I have 800+ contacts and counting...)
P.S. what I gathered is that this is not device related it is just OS and app related. I had the same problem with my previous Nokia phone... (I did not solve. Actually I thought I will solve with this device...)
I've set the Dialing Rules with my country code and area code (Mobile etc.) So, I don't have a clue what am I doung wrong

how to disable the auto dialer

I have the dash flashed to the Rogers wm6 ROM which is about 10x smoother/faster than the Tmoboile wm6...
But anyway, one thing i always hated with the tmobile was that if i was type alpha characters to find contact to dial, during my query, it would Automatically popup with (see below, dont know how to take a screenshot):
Dialer (Title)
Confirm
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Dial XXX at (yyy) - yyy-yyyy?
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Yes | No |
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How do i disable this? its really annoying because 99% of the time, the name that its asking to dial is incorrect and usually the same, ...ex. ill type the letters S A R for sarah, as soon as i see sarah in the list, this damn auto thing comes up saying (before i get the chance to select), Dial Chris at (xxx) -xxx-xxxx?
I was hoping this would go away with the rogers wm6, but alas it has not..
thanks for any help.

sim number
It try to dial number in sim card. example if you type ra, it also mean 3#. (dial number location 3 in sim). I solve it by delete all numbers in Sim card. Hope this help.

Ah that makes sense, is there any way to disable that without deleting my SIM contacts and using phone mem?

i don't have this problem and i have all my contacts backed up on the sim.
i don't know the solution... but just wanted to point out that i don't think you should have to delete all your sim contacts to fix. unless it has something to do with you ONLY having your contacts on your sim. i use the phone for my contacts and just have everything on the sim for backup only.

I try to disable SIM contact in setting-phone-call option but it does not help.

Touch 4.01 help

I have been using touch 4.01 for a while now and I really like it. The only problem I have is when it comes to making calls (the main reason for a phone).
When I go to contacts and try to display a list, all I get is a list of contacts that I have already made a call to (i.e. history) not the actual list from my sim card. I thought that maybe my sim was not being read but when I start to dial a number (If I happen to know it) It will come up with the persons name. Unfortunately If I don't know the number I can't dial them.
The only way I have been able to work round this is to go to favorite people and add a new person (as from here it will display the whole contact list). Unfortunately favourite people can only hold 8 numbers.
Basically I want to know how to show my contact list that is on my sim card and not the numbers I have already dialed.
Thanks in advance but It's really starting to bug me now.
Khalid

May U run SIM Manager in Program/Accesories and copy all contact to Your PPC or run Advanced Config in Settings, line "Show Sim Contact" and active "Yes" and Reset your PPC.
Goodluck

Contacts issue

I think this is very popular issue, but I don't find any solution.
I use my SIM to store all phone numbers.
I will be very very very happy to use SIM as default destination of all new contacts.
No whats happening:
I save number in phone.
Next I copy this number in to SIM with SIM manager
Next I delete the number from phone memory
3-4 minutes for one contact and many potential mistakes....
Thank you.

Anyone?
I can't believe there is no solution

I tried a while ago for a friend of mine to et that working and didn't have any luck...
I think most people aren't going to use the SIM to store contacts as you can't do any of the advanced stuff with sim contacts(custom ringtones, attaching a pic, etc.)

i had the same problem and i finally chose to copy my sim contacts to my phone's memory and delete everything from sim... the only good thing (in my opinion) is the hability to add pictures to contacts..

[Q] Caller ID mapping

I have my new HTC Trophy set up to sync with Exchange/Outlook. I'm in Norway, so my contacts phone numbers are stored in Outlook in this format: +47 12345678
Now, when in Norway and getting incoming calls from 12345678, the phone does not recognize the caller.
Is this a known issue? Any workarounds other than removing +47 from all my contacts?

I'm having the same issue!
Anyone know how to setup WP7 to recognize not only the full number?

Nothing new here?

i noticed that in the windows live contacts section you can specify which country the contact is in,..would that help?
i don't know..i'm not having these problems to be honest!

In outlook you store the phone number with +47 but when you dial the number, you want to dial it without the +47
Is that correct?
I have had similar issues with other phones with extra "0" in between region/country/city codes, for example in Germany.
I have a couple of ideas:
1. There is the International Dialing assist function. I have no idea what it does other than what's described undertneat it... Does that do anything helpful?
2. What if you create a separate Windows Live account, and add in /copy your contacts, without the +47; then link the two contacts. The contacts will appear as just 1 contact in your phone, and you'll have the option to call with or without the +47

So here is the deal:
I have set all my contacts mobile numbers using the right local area code (for example 04111-8181-8181) so when I’m traveling to other city the call is routed correctly. But when someone call me I receive the number without the area code (example 8181-8181) and the phone did not match this with the contact.
So the problem is not when I'm dialing the number but when I receive an incoming call from my contacts.
I don't know what this International Assist do too but is turned On.
And hboos, I didn't find where I do set up this Country in Live Contacts but I don't think that this is the problem since all of my most important contacts are coming from Outlook.
Thanks

I store all my contacts like this one: +49123456 without any spaces. My HD7 recognizes them all. Perhaps you have to remove the space?

Well, if removing the spaces/formatting doesn't work, you can always go with my other suggestion. Create a separate address book in a Windows Live account with the incoming CID number, and link the two contacts on WP7 (open contact 1, click the chain link at the bottom, click contact 2). WP7 is even smart enough to suggest you likely links.

Talys, this suggestion lead me to another question: Is there one button to link all my contacts or I need to go one by one (because I have 1200+ contacts).
I'll try to remove the spaces.

Just an update, didn't work removing all the spaces

I've got the same problem. Living in Norway, syncing with Exchange/Outlook and storing all my phone numbers with a +47 prefix. I'm sure creating a windows live contact for each of my Exchange/Outlook contact and link them would work. But with 800+ contacts, the thought of maintaining two lists doesn't sound like a feasible solution for me.
I've tried the following.
Using a 0047 prefix instead of the +47. Same problem.
Removing any spaces that Outlook add automatically. Same problem
Using a windows live contacts instead of Outlook/Exchange contacts. Same problem.
The best solution I've come up with so far, is to store all my Outlook/Exchange contacts with two numbers. One without the prefix and one with. This isn't really working either I like to store mobile number where they belong.
However, everything seams to work as expected with SMS/MMS messages. The +47 prefix doesn’t cause any problems what so ever.

Now with some developers already getting access to WP7 registry I think it's a matter of time to find the entry to edit

surfing10 said:
Talys, this suggestion lead me to another question: Is there one button to link all my contacts or I need to go one by one (because I have 1200+ contacts).
I'll try to remove the spaces.
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I don't think there's a button to automatically link your contacts.... that's a lot of contacts to link! But you only need to link the ones that are important for Call Display, right? So the list would be smaller?

i always have the same problem on wm6 and had was to edit the registry caller ID match the default is 8 so if you change it to 6 or 7 then it will be ok..so its just to get access to the wp7 registy to change that setting

jullian_d said:
i always have the same problem on wm6 and had was to edit the registry caller ID match the default is 8 so if you change it to 6 or 7 then it will be ok..so its just to get access to the wp7 registy to change that setting
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Sorry to bring that again but that's THE POINT!! We need to hack the registry to edit this.
Anyone have done this?

surfing10 said:
Sorry to bring that again but that's THE POINT!! We need to hack the registry to edit this.
Anyone have done this?
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no....there is no access YET to the registry or file system

try this reg key
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Phone]
"CallIDMatch"=dword:7

Have you tried Settings -> Applications -> phone and International assist - On?

jullian_d said:
i always have the same problem on wm6 and had was to edit the registry caller ID match the default is 8 so if you change it to 6 or 7 then it will be ok..so its just to get access to the wp7 registy to change that setting
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I don't think this is the problem, or if it is, the default value is higher than 8 as all phonenumbers in Norway has 8 digits. 11 if you also count the +47.
In any case, works fine for me using Telia in Sweden - I have numbers stored in a variety of ways including +46 (0123) 12345 as well as +4612312345 and they all seem to show who's calling. Could be it's operator dependant somehow?

I have the same problem, my contacts are synced from Google. Country Slovenia, format +386 31xxxxxx. Number does not link to name of the contact. Tried Caller ID fix from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907971, but problem remains. Can someone try and see if it works for him?