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[Progress of] WM6 translation to German

Started this project some days ago...
done:
replaced localized OS packages
[*]initflashfiles.dat
[*]extracted all OEM mui's from an existing German ROM
[*]removed T-mobile stuff from the original WWE WM6 ROM
[*]check the registry
[*]check some packages
to do:
Add MSN

bepe said:
Started this project some days ago...
done:
replaced localized OS packages
initflashfiles.dat
to do:
extract all OEM mui's like Backlight.exe.0407.mui from an existing German ROM
check the registry
completely remove the T-mobile stuff from the original WM6 ROM
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great , good job bepe , keep going ))

bepe said:
Started this project some days ago...
done:
replaced localized OS packages
initflashfiles.dat
to do:
extract all OEM mui's like Backlight.exe.0407.mui from an existing German ROM
check the registry
completely remove the T-mobile stuff from the original WM6 ROM
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bepe, you can use my kitchen to easily extract files/ replace files/ edit registry/ edit initflash ... i hope youll make a good translation

Gimme some work to do
Hi !
Great Idea, give me some work to do, maybe translating / checking translation, or stuff like this.
PM me
soniX

hey bepe
this is great!
same goes for me. just let me know if i can help.

help wanted
same for me...

Thanks for the offering, but I'm mostly fighting with the configuration of that ROM. The translation was the easy part, cos I was able to use things from existing German ROMs...
I think there will be a beta the next days and I would need you all to check that for bugs

You've got a guinea pig right now
If it does not brick my phone, I will help you testing out...
soniX

can you fix swedish rom
can you fix swedish rom Wm6

If it does not brick my phone, I will help you testing out...
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That’s the problem...
I don’t have a Hermes, so I cannot try it myself.
Bad thing is that I cannot guaranty that the ROMs I need tested would not brick a device.
I do my best, but no one is perfect and it is easy to brick a Hermes
asukal is testing the ROMs for me... he is a really good friend and I'm sure we will find a solution in case of bricking his device.
BTW, he will test the beta too... so it should not brick your devices

can you fix swedish rom Wm6
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no, sorry... I can only make a German rom at the moment

1) If you substitute some files, reg values etc.. why you have to rebuild the Os and don't make a cab file installer??
2) Can you add to the first post ALL the registry keys changed & all the files substituted (and other things done)?
..also i want to start an italian translation project... but for now i'm searching spellcheck & words dictionary... and fixing keyboard issues..

SkizZO said:
1) If you substitute some files, reg values etc.. why you have to rebuild the Os and don't make a cab file installer??
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the cab would be to big... about 6MB... also I think that it is better to have a clean rom
SkizZO said:
2) Can you add to the first post ALL the registry keys changed & all the files substituted (and other things done)?
..also i want to start an italian translation project... but for now i'm searching spellcheck & words dictionary... and fixing keyboard issues..
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you should try my package tool
use it to build packages of your rom and you will see that there are localized packages like: Base_Lang_0409
all files inside this localized packages should be replaced

Bepe's tool is great, give it a try.

are there any news?
greets
voxid

some screens

and one more

first beta of the rom (torrent)

I'm not sure the torrent will work, cos I never used that to share things...
so here is another link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/20858871/HER_OS_WM6_GER.rar.html

bepe said:
I'm not sure the torrent will work, cos I never used that to share things...
so here is another link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/20858871/HER_OS_WM6_GER.rar.html
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What is the basic for your german rom? Auf welcher ROM-Variante basiert dein ROM?
I would prefer WM6 for Hermes LVSW Edition (WM6 Pro Style).

Question on cooking with an official rom (Language Related)

Hi gurus,
I have tried several official rom and I would like to know on how to I release the ULDR as Bepe had mentioned in his rom thread on the official roms.
i have just learn cooking and have managed to alter offical roms to my likings. but the storage space is just not enough on the official roms, even after cooking.
thus, can any kind chefs share with me on how to release more storage while cooking. I believe this would be relatively useful for all newbie cookers.
Thanks a million!

ruffruff said:
Hi gurus,
I have tried several official rom and I would like to know on how to I release the ULDR as Bepe had mentioned in his rom thread on the official roms.
i have just learn cooking and have managed to alter offical roms to my likings. but the storage space is just not enough on the official roms, even after cooking.
thus, can any kind chefs share with me on how to release more storage while cooking. I believe this would be relatively useful for all newbie cookers.
Thanks a million!
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clear out ALL the crap, ringtones, wav files, welcome center, autoupdate, and apps you dont want / use.

walshieau said:
clear out ALL the crap, ringtones, wav files, welcome center, autoupdate, and apps you dont want / use.
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even if i do that, my total storage is just 80mb.
how do i gain more?
can you teach me?

ruffruff said:
even if i do that, my total storage is just 80mb.
how do i gain more?
can you teach me?
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what tools are you using to extract the nb files?

walshieau said:
what tools are you using to extract the nb files?
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i am using the diamond kitchen posted in this forum.
kind of straight forward, like pressing 1 or 2 to cook or rebuild roms

You have to break it into steps, and stop after XIP merge with OS (just before buildOS)
This is where you can add, remove anything. Packages, etc.

i have managed to cook up a good storage space rom with the advice from the seniors here as well as the wikis.
but now i have another problem.
i have managed to turn one of the latest official WWE rom into Sim. Chinese. although, i have replaced all the wince.nls in the WWE rom to the asian WWE, but after cooking and flashing, it does not shows the chinese regions.
i have tried several ways but still couldnt find a way to solve this.
for replacing wince.nls in roms, is there areas which i need to look at, or files i need to replace?
btw, the cook WWE rom is entirely in chinese now on my device, the only left unsolve is the wince.nls.
one side track question, how do i disable error reporting? every now and then i received a pop up screen saying that certain task has caused an error ...

can anyone kindly help?

Ruff, if ever there's anything you don't know how to do with tools, just do it on your handset, dump and rebuild the rom. As simple as that.
So just disable the error rep and happy dumping.
^.^

i almost give up here.
i have replace the default.hv and user.hv with the one found in the CHT officlal rom but still, my Cooked WWE rom is still unable to initialise the asian wince.nls ...
what am i missing here?
can any kind soul shed some light?
2nd issue> connectionsetup keep returning an error in the first boot. how do i stop this?

hi all,
thanks for everything.
i just found out why the wince.nls is not used correctly.
after replacing the os.nb in the ROM\ folder with the os.nb from the offical chs rom, it works.
although, i dun understand why but it works now. chinese region is selectable.
i also found that the temp\dump_XIP is practically useless, as the kitchen build os without using it at all ...
guess i still need to figure out more stuff manually and stop using the CMD script. it may be the CMD scripts that is set to extract xip from os.nb when cooking rom. thus, rendering the dump_xip not being used.
thanks. if there is any advice for me, please kindly let me know.
i love XDA and thank you JugglerLKR so much for the kitchen.

Hi ruffruff,
Could you please give me any advice on how to change the OS language ? I had some translation experience on the htc wizard but it was a nightmare. I see it seem easier on diamond roms. It would be great If I could change some of the "plates" cooked on here in Italian. I really hate having the phone in wwe.

smogdragon said:
Hi ruffruff,
Could you please give me any advice on how to change the OS language ? I had some translation experience on the htc wizard but it was a nightmare. I see it seem easier on diamond roms. It would be great If I could change some of the "plates" cooked on here in Italian. I really hate having the phone in wwe.
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hi smogdragon,
i believe you already have a kitchen at hand.
if so, you will need to find a italian rom first and dump the rom. after which, save the dump. then find the WWE rom which you like and wish to change it to italian. dump the WWE rom and replace all the 0409 packages and files to your italian packages and files which you have dump earlier.
cook the rom and flash.

finally, i have everything working out nicely.
ram available after first boot is still not as much as the senior cookers here.
i have 2 requests and hope that some kind soul or seniors can help me with:
1) Can anyone release to me the correct backward compatible netcf3.5 for rom cooking?
2) Can anyone release to me the 20270 XIP and teach me how to port it to my cook rom?
thanks and hope that some kind soul can assist me.

I see Nothing is changed. DO you replace all the files by hand ? Or have some kind of automated procedure ? The problem for me is I've not seen any .93 build in italian yet so I don't know where to find the files without messing the build.

smogdragon said:
I see Nothing is changed. DO you replace all the files by hand ? Or have some kind of automated procedure ? The problem for me is I've not seen any .93 build in italian yet so I don't know where to find the files without messing the build.
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u dun really need the exact build for the italians mui files.
just find an available italian rom and extract all the mui files out.
in english rom, replace those 0409 folders and files with your MUI files by HAND. hehe, no pain no gain ...
do more reading on the forum. i am no expert. like you, i am also a newbie/noob in rom cooking. just trial and error. i too need guidance from the expert but in the meantime, when they are not responding, you have to DIY...
cheers

ruffruff said:
u dun really need the exact build for the italians mui files.
just find an available italian rom and extract all the mui files out.
in english rom, replace those 0409 folders and files with your MUI files by HAND. hehe, no pain no gain ...
do more reading on the forum. i am no expert. like you, i am also a newbie/noob in rom cooking. just trial and error. i too need guidance from the expert but in the meantime, when they are not responding, you have to DIY...
cheers
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Hi,
I'm trying to cook my own rom to convert the official Russian rom into english.
I've a quick question about the replacing the 0409 folder.
I'm going to be going from 0419 folders (russian) to 0409 (english), do I delete the 0419 directories and just add in the 0409 ones, or do I have to delete the 0419 folders and then rename the 0409 to 0419.
I'm guessing just delete the 0419 ones and stick in the 0409 instead, but want to make sure.
Is there anything else I need to do. I guess I'm looking for all the 0419 folders in the \OEM and \SYS directories?
Does anyone know if this will get around the region lock on a Russian Diamond?
Plus is there anything else I will need to do?
Do I have to do anything with XIP, that's something I'm really not sure about?
Cheer
Andrew

Artemis Diamondish 6.1 Build 20721.1.4.0 + Build 20273/19965 (ROM + Kitchen)

Hi,
I would like to share the kitchen that I use to build my personal ROM. It's SYS and XIP were ported from the stock Diamond 1.93.456.2 WWE ROM that Tom made available and the kitchen is Bepe's kitchen.
Here it is (Build 19965.1.2.3):
http://rapidshare.com/files/130210385/Artemis_Diamondish_6.1_Build_19965.1.2.3.zip
UPDATE1: I have made a few changes in the OEM folder, I have added Advanced Config, added a patched htc home for the weather and made some changes to the registry. The changed files are in the attached zip.
Pre-Built ROM (NBH) can be downloaded from here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/130466202/Artemis_Diamondish_6.1_Build_19965.1.2.3_NBH_ROM.zip
(Usual rules for cooked roms, i.e. USPL etc.. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331845)
UPDATE2: I have uppdated the XIP and SYS to use build 20273.1.3.3 and use .NET CF 3.5 as suggested, thanks xvx45
Pre-Built ROM (NBH) can be downloaded from here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/133908594/Artemis_Diamondish_6.1_Build_20273.1.3.3_NBH_ROM.zip
Kitchen:
http://rapidshare.com/files/133917390/Artemis_Diamondish_6.1_Build_20273.1.3.3.zip
UPDATE3: I have uppdated the XIP and SYS to use build 20721.1.4.0
Pre-Built ROM (NBH) can be downloaded from here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/142121757/Artemis_Diamondish_6.1_Build_20721.1.4.0_NBH_ROM.zip
Kitchen:
http://rapidshare.com/files/142132785/Artemis_Diamondish_6.1_Build_20721.1.4.0.zip
Fix for the SMS inbox issue can be found in post #99 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2616507&postcount=99
Here are some screen shots (of build 19965, mainly the same as build 20273 and 20721 but version numbers changed):

Nice work bro, nice to see new "faces" on Artemis forum.
Cheers.

Thanks, been here a while, just learning as I go. I thought it was a bit quiet on the new ROM front.

Thank you very much for you sharing!
Maybe this was the push i needed to start also cooking.
Who knows...
Cheers

Thanks for share man!
Do you have some screenshots of this ROM?

INFO
Hi,
Just extracted, saw all the separate files, did i miss the full .nb rom image or is this post to cook yourself with the htc romtool?
I know there are a look of cooking-guides, but can anyone explain simple which files tot select from the extraction when running the htc rom tool you have to fill in :
G3 IPL
G4 IPL
SPL
Splash
Radio Ext.Rom
OS
Can i add also .cab files for example somewhere to add to this rom?
Would like to cook first rom.
Thanks,
Innovator

Hi, just run the batch file "BuildNB.bat" and that will generate the .nb and .nbh files, they were removed to reduce the size of the archive.
You may also need to install the VC8 Runtime first, that can be found in the archive:
"tools\vcredist_x86.exe"
There is a tool from Ervius (I think that it is called "packages creator") that will convert cabs to OEMs suitable for cooking with.

Thank you mate, I'll try to make it compatible with Orange France SPV M650 AGPS
Maybe my starting element to come with Artemis community more often (actually my phone but Icook on my old Prophet at this time).
Good job

Hey guys,
This seems promising. I've just installed Tom's latest but have been troubled by bugs (it happens) since he's no longer responding to queries I decided I needed to learn to cook one myself (should be fairly straightforward).
Perhaps we should pool experience & resources and work together, I mean if you look at the activity in the Kaiser forum, you'd be forgiven for feeling a bit left out.
One person could design gfx the other sounds etc. Otherwise I might swap my Artemis for a Kaiser (yes I've been begged!!)
Forgive me if this seems like a pipe dream...

More screen shots....
Here are some more screen shots:

daniel.bigred said:
Hey guys,
This seems promising. I've just installed Tom's latest but have been troubled by bugs (it happens) since he's no longer responding to queries I decided I needed to learn to cook one myself (should be fairly straightforward).
Perhaps we should pool experience & resources and work together, I mean if you look at the activity in the Kaiser forum, you'd be forgiven for feeling a bit left out.
One person could design gfx the other sounds etc. Otherwise I might swap my Artemis for a Kaiser (yes I've been begged!!)
Forgive me if this seems like a pipe dream...
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I agree, it would be nice to have an "open" ROM that the community contributes to, I hope that this would keep the Artemis platform alive for future releases of Windows Mobile.

P3350
Hi all... i am very new to cooking and still thinking of getting my feet wet... have a couple of questions...
1. I have a P3350 (Artemis with out GPS) and when i install all these roms they are sluggish when compared to P3300s. My friend has a P3300 and the same ROM is fater ... I tested it immediately after flashing by opening the windows folder and other apps... should i be doing any thing different to get my device up to speed?
2. The ROM on the rapid share (http://rapidshare.com/files/13046620....3_NBH_ROM.zip) is this a directly installable ROM?
3. What should i be doing with the 'changed files'.
Sorry if i am sounding noob...

veereshpm said:
1. I have a P3350 (Artemis with out GPS) and when i install all these roms they are sluggish when compared to P3300s. My friend has a P3300 and the same ROM is fater ... I tested it immediately after flashing by opening the windows folder and other apps... should i be doing any thing different to get my device up to speed?
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I don't know of any, but I am looking into a similar issue that I see with my orbit, I think that I am going to look at the XIP region of the ROM to see if there is something device specific there, sorry for not being much help.
veereshpm said:
2. The ROM on the rapid share (http://rapidshare.com/files/13046620....3_NBH_ROM.zip) is this a directly installable ROM?
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Yes, this contains everything but assumes that your device is already running the SPL and only contains the OS portion and not the radio. Look at the link in the first post for help on flashing cooked roms.
veereshpm said:
3. What should i be doing with the 'changed files'.
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These files in the zip should replace the existing ones in the kitchen on rapidsahre.
veereshpm said:
Sorry if i am sounding noob...
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No problem, we were all like that, I am still learning as I go.

please inform - this pre-built rom, what is it contains of?
set of programms, etc...
And what about memory leaks?
Thank you

Freshup Roms...
Good try for this new rom, but i find the home-skin not stylish enough (dated too soon).
Why not create a rom with Greatball's today screen, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402021
This is the most stylish skin (with SPBMobile 2.1) i have ever seen (last one with analog clock).
Together with Greatball's Samurai Diamond Weather + Night
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402124
Would be the most fresh looking rom ever
In combination with latest msn, SPB-backup,PPCBackupcontacts,...
Who can do this & freshup our Artemis for a long time ?
Thanks,
Cheers!
Innovator

mpattman said:
Hi,
I would like to share the kitchen that I use to build my personal ROM. It's SYS and XIP were ported from the stock Diamond 1.93.456.2 WWE ROM that Tom made available and the kitchen is Bepe's kitchen.
Here it is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/130210385/Artemis_Diamondish_6.1_Build_19965.1.2.3.zip
I hope that it will be useful to some of you.
Matt.
UPDATE: I have made a few changes in the OEM folder, I have added Advanced Config, added a patched htc home for the weather and made some changes to the registry. The changed files are in the attached zip.
Pre-Built ROM (NBH) can be downloaded from here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/130466202/Artemis_Diamondish_6.1_Build_19965.1.2.3_NBH_ROM.zip
(Usual rules for cooked roms, i.e. USPL etc.. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331845)
Here are some screen shots:
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When an Italian version?

I have no plans to produce any other languages, but the source to the kitchen is all there for someone to translate to suit thier needs.

Ok, I've tested and make my first Artemis ROM (for test use for the moment).
I've been implemented Orange AGPS drivers but no luck no automatic connexion at the moment when GPS is activated so, I'll make more try. So I've removed some components (Adobe flash & reader, Diamond Keyboard and some little thing) that I don't want and this ROM is stable and fast...very fast coocked with NETCF3.5 Now I'll translate it to French if I've time to that more than my future release
Just one thing mpattman : why to release this kitchen with NETCF 2.0 and not directly 3.5 ?
And the last Word : Thank you mpattman !!!

I can not down your ROM and MYkitchen,please get it to FTP,thank you.

Thanks a ton...
Thanks MPattMan...
I am downloading the kitchen, and will try understanding stuff... will post if i have any doubts... do u have any guide on how to do stuff like adding the programs that i want ? ... i will be more than willing to help, test and learn.

WM6.5 - a plea for a clean/extralight version, pls.!!!

@all,
one may think of wm6.5 what one wants, comparing them roms to wm6.1 they are not my choice, though some nice effects of wm6.5 are rather nice!
I am mainly using my p3300 for tomtom navigation and phone-function in between!
wm6.5 makes tomtom runs by far more zippy, startup is reduced, recalculating an alternative route or correcting an error is done more speedily. In addition i find the graphics somehow to be far more crisp within wm6.5!
..and thats about all i really find more positive, for my usage!
wm6.5 is terrible within changing from tomtom to an incoming call, never mind trying to start an outgoing call...
the worst though is the start menue: absolutely useless to use in any way with your fingers; you always end up opening various other porgrams trying to scroll down the list
In other words:
I would be highly appreciative if someone would cook a wm6.5 alike yues extralight: speedy, stripped, light yet functional in its basics phone and gps!
greetz
thormdac

some motivation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551294
greetz

I'm wanting a clean 6.5 too, but the latest builds are too buggy. I think we M$ is in the process of altering the GUI altogether and the current builds are 'passages'. Maybe we should let M$ do its thing and come out with a build which has proper finger friendly popups rather than horrible enlarged ones of the old 6.1 popups
Other than that, I'd love to cook a clean 6.5, but the ones I cooked (23034 and 23037) are extremely slow to release! If somebody tells me what files I can delete to make it faster......

WM 6.5 clean
for example
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=115951&view=findpost&p=2734290

iggord said:
for example
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=115951&view=findpost&p=2734290
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thanx!
any more examples?
since i am registered at 4pda.ru, i see you are the cook of this rom, right?
greetz
p.s. downloading and giving it a try...
here are some screenshots
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=115951&st=380&p=2734290&#entry2734290

Great, this is just the right track!
This rom is really faaassst!
Unfortunately its fully russian - anything in WWE?
greetz
p.s. its "mother" Pham Quang - build 21502.5.0.7 is just the usual "snake" again!

chances of getting some help along the way?
trying to change the language via:
"use ervius VK
1- dump a swedish ROM
2- use the swedish OEM and EXT folders
3- use the swedish ROM/Kovsky/"build no."/ folder (OEMXIPKernel), just change the old build numbers to the new build ones
4- use the new ROM/Shared/"new build no."/ folder (MSXIPKernel)
4- use the new build SYS folder, but replace all 0409 folders with swedish ones from the same SYS build or similar build (eg. you can add 23022 swedish files into a 23028 build)
5- cook"
greetz
p.s.: so you can easily access the russian wm6.5 light rom from the above post by iggord, i have uplaoded it here:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H8OZONJ0

Yeah I guess that should work

randythered said:
Yeah I guess that should work
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i suppose so, but i dont even manage that!
can you help?
greetz

You want Swedish right? If so then I can probably make it and ask you to test it. If WWE I can test myself

thormdac said:
chances of getting some help along the way?
trying to change the language via:
"use ervius VK
1- dump a swedish ROM
2- use the swedish OEM and EXT folders
3- use the swedish ROM/Kovsky/"build no."/ folder (OEMXIPKernel), just change the old build numbers to the new build ones
4- use the new ROM/Shared/"new build no."/ folder (MSXIPKernel)
4- use the new build SYS folder, but replace all 0409 folders with swedish ones from the same SYS build or similar build (eg. you can add 23022 swedish files into a 23028 build)
5- cook"
greetz
p.s.: so you can easily access the russian wm6.5 light rom from the above post by iggord, i have uplaoded it here:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H8OZONJ0
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i think you are making a mistake in step 3
as far as i know kovsky is name of device(xperia)
so you shouldnt copy OEMXIPKERNEL of that
keep the files same from older builds just change the numbers

randythered said:
You want Swedish right? If so then I can probably make it and ask you to test it. If WWE I can test myself
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no no. not swedish, its just from the quote!!!!
i want it in english - WWE
any help appreciated

Alright I'll give it a shot, but cannot promise when

it will probably be done without much of a hustle if the rom is dumpable

farukb said:
it will probably be done without much of a hustle if the rom is dumpable
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thats what i cant say for sure.
i tried to dump it with the latest ervius kitchen, i get a whole lot of output...but the kitchen seems to freeze at the end!
so to say, for me to do it quickly is the way, as i aint sure of what it is supposed to look like, never mind how i am supposed to go about it!
is there a small-stepped howto?
greetz

i have the knowhow but if the kitchen froze at "adding packages" the rom isn't dumpable....so you'll have to find another one...if you can find a rom that you want (doesn't matter if it's dumpabe) i can try to dump and cook it
do you want it with titanium or you want an extremely light rom

farukb said:
do you want it with titanium or you want an extremely light rom
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jeah, it got stuck at "adding packages"!
i am looking for an extremely light wm6.5 rom, dont care about titanium etc - see first post!
thanx

can i rebuild this one to run for artemis, if so, could someone tell me howto?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551294
greetz

thormdac check your pm

any news here?
811 views of this thread - seems quite a number are interested in this
would be nice to hear something!
greetz

Help For updating wm6 XIP to wm6.1

First thx for helping me
I was trying to port a XIP from Touch Cruise
Yet it cant even boot in the system [only suck at the screen with the red words at the bottom]
Any clear tutorial for me. Thank you

You cannot just use the XIP from another phone.
You must get the XIP split into OEMXIPKernel and MSXIPKernel so that you can combine the new MSXIP with your existing Trinity OEMXIP.
And most of the time you would need to use the new build's SYS packages that go along with that new MSXIP.
What kitchen are using? Ervius Visual Kitchen?

the.decoy said:
You cannot just use the XIP from another phone.
You must get the XIP split into OEMXIPKernel and MSXIPKernel so that you can combine the new MSXIP with your existing Trinity OEMXIP.
And most of the time you would need to use the new build's SYS packages that go along with that new MSXIP.
What kitchen are using? Ervius Visual Kitchen?
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Yes i am using Ervius Visual Kitchen
What i do is using the xipporterex to port the xip.
I even tried to follow the bepe tutorial from darkforceteam with bepe kitchen.
Yet same error occured.
Would u mind giving me a clear step for making it workable?
thx

Sorry but I have always used pre-extracted XIP/SYS bundles from people like Da_G that I then put into my kitchen. So I am not sure I can give you a full step through for porting the TC xip/sys from scratch.
One thing about the OEMXIP though, whenever I have used xipporterex I usually discard the generated ROM\Trinity\NEWBUILD# and replace it with a copy of my existing ROM\Trinity\OLDBUILD# (I just rename the folder to the new build number). It is just the ported ROM\Shared\NEWBUILD# folder that you want.
Again, you are also using the SYS\NEWBUILD# folder aren't you?

the.decoy said:
Sorry but I have always used pre-extracted XIP/SYS bundles from people like Da_G that I then put into my kitchen. So I am not sure I can give you a full step through for porting the TC xip/sys from scratch.
One thing about the OEMXIP though, whenever I have used xipporterex I usually discard the generated ROM\Trinity\NEWBUILD# and replace it with a copy of my existing ROM\Trinity\OLDBUILD# (I just rename the folder to the new build number). It is just the ported ROM\Shared\NEWBUILD# folder that you want.
Again, you are also using the SYS\NEWBUILD# folder aren't you?
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Oh man! You are genius!!!
My rom comes bootable after renaming the folder!
That's so fantastic
Yet the xip of the system seems hasn't update [still the old build ]

Update
I used the old Build.. therefore, my device is bootable....
Yet when i choose back the new build, ext xip and sys as the neew version,
it suck again at the screen...
Thx man i know u have tried a lot to figure out my problem.
Is it possible or better, if i upload my kitchen for u to check?

OPzero said:
Oh man! You are genius!!!
My rom comes bootable after renaming the folder!
That's so fantastic
Yet the xip of the system seems hasn't update [still the old build ]
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Oh thats easy. The "Rom Version" (that shows on boot) just needs to be patched (it is reading it from the copied OEMXIP).
Just go back into the Porting window then click the button "Find Date/Version on \ROM\Xip\"
That will populate the Rom Date and Rom Version fields.
You can then edit those fields and click each of the "Change" buttons to patch the newer Date/Version into the OEMXIP
You can also set the PagePool value using the "Change PP to Mb" function (it is not possible to query the current PP value however it does tell you what it previously was when you change it). You could always set it to something sensible like 4 or 6 and see what it was before that.
EDIT: If you were actually talking about the CE OS build number that shows in "About Device" then that is much harder to change. It is embedded somewhere within the MSXIP (requires hex editing I am not familiar with - and that is effectively make a "fake" build anyway).

OPzero said:
Update
I used the old Build.. therefore, my device is bootable....
Yet when i choose back the new build, ext xip and sys as the neew version,
it suck again at the screen...
Thx man i know u have tried a lot to figure out my problem.
Is it possible or better, if i upload my kitchen for u to check?
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Oh, sorry just saw this ... yeah probably better to just do that.
Just curious but why on earth do you want to port some old TC 6.1 rom anyway?
There a plenty of functional WM6.5 xip/sys bundles that we can/have ported to Trinity. Even if it has be WM6.1 there are surely newer releases of 6.1 xip/sys to choose from?
EDIT: Just a heads up but I am about to go offline for the night (end of the work day in my timezone) so if you do upload I will not reply until tomorrow.

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Oh, sorry just saw this ... yeah probably better to just do that.
Just curious but why on earth do you want to port some old TC 6.1 rom anyway?
There a plenty of functional WM6.5 xip/sys bundles that we can/have ported to Trinity. Even if it has be WM6.1 there are surely newer releases of 6.1 xip/sys to choose from?
EDIT: Just a heads up but I am about to go offline for the night (end of the work day in my timezone) so if you do upload I will not reply until tomorrow.
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It's ok, would u mind pm or post some link which release those stuff?
Thank you very much!
I will still upload my rom and pm to u~
Check it when u hav time
really really thx

You could extract the 23102 wm6.5 build from my last kitchen release:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5547181#post5547181
I have modified EVK slightly to allow it to build either p3600i or Trinity ROMs from the same kitchen but still there is a full QVGA xip/sys bundle there for 23102 (give or take a few sys packages).
Got to go, will try and be more helpful tomorrow

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You could extract the 23102 wm6.5 build from my last kitchen release:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5547181#post5547181
I have modified EVK slightly to allow it to build either p3600i or Trinity ROMs from the same kitchen but still there is a full QVGA xip/sys bundle there for 23102 (give or take a few sys packages).
Got to go, will try and be more helpful tomorrow
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Yes I got it~ Thx
it is great
OK and now i am going to mod it~~
Yet just before i start, would u like suggesting me some post that is most updated and clear enough for me such a newbie to work around it?
Thx

OPzero said:
Yes I got it~ Thx
it is great
OK and now i am going to mod it~~
Yet just before i start, would u like suggesting me some post that is most updated and clear enough for me such a newbie to work around it?
Thx
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Go and find SuperSport's Tutorial Video for using Ervius Kitchen.
I have broken up the EXT packages into categories to make it simpler for new chefs but the basic concept is the same.
I have included pre-built ROM profiles to make it very simple to build ROMs out-of-the-box.
Just got to "Load ROM", choose one for your phone (P3600i or Trinity) and the click "Create ROM" to build it.
Load a few different profiles and look at what changes in the settings. That should help you see what is going on.
Check out this thread for more tutorials and guides:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669414

the.decoy said:
Go and find SuperSport's Tutorial Video for using Ervius Kitchen.
I have broken up the EXT packages into categories to make it simpler for new chefs but the basic concept is the same.
I have included pre-built ROM profiles to make it very simple to build ROMs out-of-the-box.
Just got to "Load ROM", choose one for your phone (P3600i or Trinity) and the click "Create ROM" to build it.
Load a few different profiles and look at what changes in the settings. That should help you see what is going on.
Check out this thread for more tutorials and guides:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669414
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1 more question
I downloaded a XIP SYS Pack from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650783
However there are 5 Folders
How can i port them into the kitchen?
Thx for that

OK, this technically requires more time than I can spare to explain thoroughly ... but maybe if I just outline the steps you can do some google searching to work out exactly how to do it:
- First you need to clean up the SYS for you needs. For Trinity you need to have QVGA sys structure so that means only 96DPI and 320x240
- That means sorting the SYS package folders into an EVK SYS structure and removing the other DPI and resolution folder structures.
- Go get XIPDumpSoter (or whatever it is called now) by teh penguin so that you can use it to automatically sort the folders. Then delete any that are for other DPI or RES (eg: 192DPI or 640x480, etc). You _only_ want 96DPI and 320x240 (and of course any that are non-res specific)
- That should give you the folder structure to put into \SYS\NEWBUILD#\
- You will need to copy over the WINCENLS sys package from your existing SYS as that will not be in the new SYS (there are other replacement folders like SQM_DUMMY, and also some that we often just delete but you can learn that stuff later)
- We have already discussed what you need to do with the MSXIP
- Lastly, (and this is really very much the "art vs sicence" part), you will need to go through and "recmod" a certain number of "modules" within certain sys packages.
I simply don't have the time right now to get into recmod but if you google you will find plenty of helpful posts explaining it. I think there is even a basic recipe of what to recmod for 64M users done by JooJooBee ... that would get you going.
Put simply, at this stage you need to read read read read read lots of chef threads to pick up the finer details. Sorry I am too busy at work to be any more help than this.
Good luck.

Thank you for spending time on me
I know it is rather annoying to explain a few things
Really Really Thank you for helping me
I hope that my post could be a guide for others
Update:
The rom is still unbootable after a day of trying.
Does the OEM section be edit before updating the build?
Such as initflashfiles.dat [I read the in the tutorial that it should change to the native 6.5]
May be i started from the wrong step?
What i concern is that wm6 may not suitable to update directly to wm6.1 or wm6.5
Thank you for spending much time on helping me
If it can be google, simply give me the keyword,
I will finish the entiry
And finally, thank you!!

OPzero said:
Thank you for spending time on me
I know it is rather annoying to explain a few things
Really Really Thank you for helping me
I hope that my post could be a guide for others
Update:
The rom is still unbootable after a day of trying.
Does the OEM section be edit before updating the build?
Such as initflashfiles.dat [I read the in the tutorial that it should change to the native 6.5]
May be i started from the wrong step?
What i concern is that wm6 may not suitable to update directly to wm6.1 or wm6.5
Thank you for spending much time on helping me
If it can be google, simply give me the keyword,
I will finish the entiry
And finally, thank you!!
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I'm actually going to bed before 3am tonight, so I will not be long here, but I just had a thought. When you cook the ROM, are you checking "Real WM 6.5 AKU" in the Kitchen? Don't do that. You cannot actually use a Native 6.5 Kernel on the Trinity as one does not exist. Also, as mentioned by the.Decoy before, you MUST have 'wince.nls' in your Kitchen somewhere or it will not boot. Thirdly, try cooking a version without ANY Extended packages. Only the original XIP and SYS and see if that boots. When you get that going smoothly, start adding EXT packages. Good Luck!
I'll check back in a couple days to see if you've made any progress. If you'd like to send your kitchen to me also, I'd be happy to look it over and see if I can find anything wrong in there.

Again and Again
I keep remind myself that Native 6.5 Kernel should be checked
OMG The Bug is here
And Thanks Decoy
Thank You
Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Update:
I saw a folder called 0_ROM_Version in EXT Shared
What is it and what function does it have?
Thx

OPzero said:
Does the OEM section be edit before updating the build?
Such as initflashfiles.dat [I read the in the tutorial that it should change to the native 6.5]
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Ummm are you trying to use a freshly extracted OEM from an official ROM?
If so then yes, there is a massive amount of conversion that must be done to it before you an cook it into a rom. Even before you break it up in to components and edit all the reg and dat files ... you first need re-sign everything with an SDK cert because you won't have the official cert that HTC built them with.
Seriously. If you are just starting out then use an existing chef's OEM (use mine or anyone else who has posted a kitchen).
Even I have not yet ever had the time to complete build an OEM from scratch (not that I don't want to one day). I was always just adapting the OEM that Chanvi had provided us in his kitchen, primarily because he had already done all the work to make it mesh with WM6.5
OPzero said:
Again and Again
I keep remind myself that Native 6.5 Kernel should be checked
OMG The Bug is here
And Thanks Decoy
Thank You
Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I am bit confused by what you said there
As Supersport explained, we do not have a Native 6.5 kernel for Trinity.
So that option should not be checked.
OPzero said:
I saw a folder called 0_ROM_Version in EXT Shared
What is it and what function does it have?
Thx
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Again, this is why I said to try "Load ROM" and see what happened
Those are just simply EXT packages which contain 1 single provxml. Each one sets the registry value for "ROM Version" (the info that comes up in "About Device" in Settings). There is one for every type of "Saved ROM" you can build from that kitchen.
I created them so that people could build each of the several types of rom from my kitchen but never need to edit the provxml files to change what the version info was.
If you are going to try cooking your own roms, the best advice I can give you is find a text editor you like and just start opening up ALL of the REG DAT RGU and PROVXML files you can find and see what they are doing.
You can even do it from within EVK. Select the type of file on the left panel called "Editors" (or just select "All") then click "Show Editor". You can open the files it finds by double clicking them in the panel on the right.
Anything custom that ever happens in the setup of a rom is controlled by these files.
If you want to see how something works (or what it does), just open up the files and read them

Sorry, wt i mean is that my rom become bootable after unchecking it
~~ That is so amazing ~~
Now i am Reading the horrible, endless.....etc tutorial, [I can finally have my own rom ]
1 Question, I am trying to put a new wince.nls which content much more countries in the rom. Yet it comes unbootable after i have repalced it.
I googled around and found several solutions.
1 is that i should put it in OEM rather than SYS [I havn't ried it yet i think it won't work]
2 is that i should mod the size of the xip.bin
Therefore it is big enough to store it.
3 Adding in some registry with my selected country code
Thanks for helping me ~~

Sorry can't help you there.
I have never ventured beyond WWE lang for my kitchens.
OPzero said:
1 Question, I am trying to put a new wince.nls which content much more countries in the rom. Yet it comes unbootable after i have repalced it.
I googled around and found several solutions.
1 is that i should put it in OEM rather than SYS [I havn't ried it yet i think it won't work]
2 is that i should mod the size of the xip.bin
Therefore it is big enough to store it.
3 Adding in some registry with my selected country code
Thanks for helping me ~~
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