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[PROJ][Ongoing..]SE Xperia X1 Panels Porting Project for Touch HD!!! - NO CAB YET!!!

I did create a post..asking if anyone had started work on this...
Got not one reply...
Seeing as i have them both.. x1 and HD..
So.. i thought.... Lets have a go....
Proof of concept only.....not a distributable version.
Sony Xperia X1 Panels.....Running on Touch HD
It's got a long way to go and lots of work needed... but it should
end up a very good addition to the Touch HD, and once done, work can commence on porting to different resolutions.
I like the look of this front end alot better than the TF3D
What do you guys reckon?
THERE IS NO CAB. ASK AT YOUR PERIL!
Anyone asking for it, will be flogged, tarred, feathered and called a leper!
Staus Updates
11/12/2008
There has been advances but very slow ones, It has been very "finiky" getting those "right changes" to commit more "stability changes"
It is because the HD was never meant to host Panels, and thus, is causing me a real pain in the backside! I'm currently looking at different roms, and versions of software, to try alternate file versions, to see if a combination is what is needed. Once this part is done, it should address a great deal of issues. Upto about 3 Hard resets a night, I think i should have a special button to do it on the back!
03/12/2008
It has been brought to my attention, there is a Cab available on another thread, but i have no input on this.
It is at the same point i was about a month ago.
It is a simple copy and paste from a X1 and is unstable.
I did not put out a version like this, as It requires your phone be reset after running panels after about 5 times, and i am aware why.
I thought It would be unfair to users to give them something that would pretty much trash the stability of the HD.
You know where it is if you do not care about this, and just want to install it.
I will not be putting out my version till i know atleast it will not trash your phone. That would subtract from the work done, and after some of us spending 500GBP+ the last thing needed is a paperweight.
01/12/2008
With the help of 'Keni'.. a new junior member... He has helped move us along also.. and produced...
The Panel icon on the titlebar.
It does need work.. and for it to function i need help again from nelshh
But he has no-doubt spent alot of time.. and got some code done.
I have to commend his effort.. and now wish to happily add him to the contributer list along with nelshh
See post 304 for pic and wmv
Thanks keni !
I am still working on te next alpha build and am struggling with the concurrence manager.
After using panels chooser anywhere from 5-10 times.. it egg timers out.. and batt out is the only recourse.
The testing on one of my HD's is now at a point.. it is a daily reset at minimum,,, but i'll carry on.
27/11/08
This has been such a painful last few days.... I have had unknown numbers of hard-resets trying to get the failing panels to operate properly.
2 developers are currently trying to help create the panel icon (see post 104) If anyone else can help aaswell...????
At the moment.. it's still doign my head in... but i am still working on this..
Those of you who have made donations.. and the kind words.. I am very grateful... and the bottle of White Zinfandel has been bought.. and shall be devoured tomorrow by her.!
I know alot of you guys are awaiting on me.. and that's why i haven't stopped.
Thanks guys... (and their mrs's for not divorcing them!)
PS.. my wife also wants a developer to create a couple of buttons on her omnia.
One button = Husband puts down phones!
Two Button = Husband does not grunt when asked question by her.. cos he is engrossed in panels!
Three button = Husband does not buy another new phone ever ever ever again!
I told her.. this is impossible... but she still asked me to find out.
23/11/08
The Alpha Cab has gone out to 5 selected testers.
This is a test version.. with many bugs.
So far.. this is the feedback
It installs.
It launches
It works
However.
Media panel & Facebook panel don't work on Alpha 0.02
Panel launcher Working. 3 testers had issues with relaunches after 5 times.It then becomes unresponsive
TF3d / Coloured Xperia / Silver Xperia / Radio Panel / SPB Panel / Google panel and Fish Panel all operate.
Animation works well on all.
I will work to address some of these.. and release a second alpha cab only to the Alpha testers.
19/11/2008
Alpha Build 0.02.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4rnX1V8cLiw
15/11/2008
Big jump made by all work done by nelshh (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=916337)
He has developed a working prototype that will call the panel manager tab.
So.. AS OF TODAY.. the 15th.. thanks to nelshh, we have something that now functions..and needs finalising and wrapping.
I will contact people to see if you can also help.
But please give nelshh a big thanks on this thread... for all his work in his project Xperiatweak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440035)... and also his work on here.
Thanks nelshh
15/11/2008
Added Tube video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jo0ZhxOi8s
12/11/2008
added yet another tube.. GSen and the Panels... It works...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8fqQFMKCRJc
10/11/2008
Added another Video.... showing all progress...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz3zptQed7Q

hi,
Am sure lot of guys here would be interested to do the testing & developement for you.Can you post here, how you started with porting panels onto HD? I searched for the panels cab and cant find anything on this xda ? Would be useful if you could give some more information,
regards
vijayvasa

works fine on HD?
Is much slower than xperia?

The panels looks good on HD as comapre to X1 because of the large screen. Do share the cabs and procedure to do that once you are done.
Thanks in advance.

Hope the panels work faster than on the X1 otherwise they are useless. On the X1 they are way to slow to work productively with them.
But the chance that they work faster on the HD are small, right? Cos the hardware of both the X1 and the HD are about the same, are they?
Also looking forward for a cab file for testing them by myself.
Ascenca

Hello Harvsingh,
I would be very interested in helping you, but I have absolutely no experience in programing (besides my old ti-83plus). Do you think I could help you somehow? Can you tell me what I should do? I don't want to loose this project only because nobody here wants to help... So, if I can do something, I'll try to do it!! I think I'll get my HD this week, than I can try everything and if you tell me, also other things. I really want to help... Greez, cad^^

Wow HarvSingh !
Good for you! Looks like a good job on the face of it!

Great to see this post!
Have seen someone porting TouchFlo3D to Xperia, and was wondering whether anyone would port the Xperia Panel over to Touch HD.
Well, hopefully you would share the cab file for the rest of us to do a test on it, and more people to come and improve on it.
Do you manage to get the gold fish to work too? Guess it would really be nice to let the gold fish swim on the bigger screen.

multan said:
Great to see this post!
Have seen someone porting TouchFlo3D to Xperia, and was wondering whether anyone would port the Xperia Panel over to Touch HD.
Well, hopefully you would share the cab file for the rest of us to do a test on it, and more people to come and improve on it.
Do you manage to get the gold fish to work too? Guess it would really be nice to let the gold fish swim on the bigger screen.
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Thanks for the words.....
Yes.. all panels work.. but not after a reboot..
Fish are very happy in the bigger tank.. and stroking the screen has the same affect on scared little fishy
It's now a case in finding out what is causing it to flap itself on a reboot.
On a hard reset... going through my way to wedge the panels in.. works... then on reboot... i cannot start it.
Also.. after selecting the panel you want.. i'm still to find the call it makes from the X1 panel button to call up panel chooser with the tiled view.. so. when you've selected the panel.. you cannot re-choose another.
but.. this is my first day in doing this.. and i guess i'll plod along.. till i find it.. or just think screw it.

SingaporeAirlines said:
Wow HarvSingh !
Good for you! Looks like a good job on the face of it!
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Thanks.... good to know i'm not the only one who would have liked to see it on the HD or others

Have you definitely told it to not load the TouchFlo3D? That may interfere with it after a reboot.

Acelister said:
Have you definitely told it to not load the TouchFlo3D? That may interfere with it after a reboot.
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Yes...
But i'm now exploring reg of the X1 to see if it does anything else....

cadenza said:
Hello Harvsingh,
I would be very interested in helping you, but I have absolutely no experience in programing (besides my old ti-83plus). Do you think I could help you somehow? Can you tell me what I should do? I don't want to loose this project only because nobody here wants to help... So, if I can do something, I'll try to do it!! I think I'll get my HD this week, than I can try everything and if you tell me, also other things. I really want to help... Greez, cad^^
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Same thing here. Would like to help with it also I really dont have much experience with WM at all. But I will help where I can cos this project has to develop to a fine product

harvsingh said:
Thanks.... good to know i'm not the only one who would have liked to see it on the HD or others
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Well to be honest, the Panels are more a marketing USP than anything else. While they are convenient, I have no issue or propensity against going into each thing separately as per normal.
But if you could get it working fully, it would be great. SonyEricsson wouldn't be too happy about it though I think !

For me, this is an extremely exieting project, because I only hoped/feared that there'll be some developers, bringing some great programs for the panels and nobody else could use them. Like spb-panel, I like it really a lot from what I've seen in videos. So, than I could have the best of both worlds, on a biiig screen^^ please, work on, I'm sure I'm not the only one who's very, very interestet in this project!!! And I want to congratulate you already for the work you've done until now!! Its amazing!!! Go on, finish it I wish you good, good luck and if you need any help I could do, I give you my word that I'll try to do my best!! Many greez, cad^^

Hi all
Video showing it running on a Touch Hd.. for the conspiracy theorists.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jo0ZhxOi8s

I don't get the video. Could you explain what's going on ?

I didn't have the audio on, if there was any, but it's just showing that it's possible. That's the first time I've seen it in action, and I'll admit it may be a little slow, but it looks better than the TouchFlo3D... I'd definitely install it.

Acelister said:
I didn't have the audio on, if there was any, but it's just showing that it's possible. That's the first time I've seen it in action, and I'll admit it may be a little slow, but it looks better than the TouchFlo3D... I'd definitely install it.
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No-one wants to hear me talk...
So. i just quicky launched it up.. and ran through..
All buttons work.. i was trying to juggle a TYTN II... look at the phone and tytn.. and press buttons... so .. i may not have pressed buttons properly..
But.. trust me.. they all work... and as quick/quicker than on the Sony X1.def not slower.

harvsingh said:
No-one wants to hear me talk...
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lol, nothing personal just my wife's asleep next to me, unwell.
But good news on the speed. I do hope you're able to make an easy to use cab file of it. No hurry as far as I'm concerned though. Not getting an HD yet. But definitely the first thing I'll download for it!

Simple Smart Theme for HTC S620 WM6 by DIZER + Screenshots

I have made this theme -my 1st theme - wanted it to be very simple,very light and actually very practical with the MRU on the top so you don't have to roll down to reach to your recently opened applications , and for me it's the 1st priority and am sure it's the same for many others who use the MRU much and don't need these stuffed glittering homescreens .
liked to share it with you . hope that you all like it
Download
HTML:
http://ifile.it/pdk3fbi
Screenshots

Hey guys , no one likes this theme ?

I think that most folks are still in love with sliding panels.
It does look nice though.

Oh good job on that man, much props for doing such a nice theme...

Theme!
gothicrulezz said:
I have made this theme -my 1st theme - wanted it to be very simple,very light and actually very practical with the MRU on the top so you don't have to roll down to reach to your recently opened applications , and for me it's the 1st priority and am sure it's the same for many others who use the MRU much and don't need these stuffed glittering homescreens .
liked to share it with you . hope that you all like it
Download
HTML:
http://ifile.it/pdk3fbi
Screenshots
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It looks like you're trying to make your dash's screen look like a blackberry's screen, in my opinion.

Okay... I'll be the first to say what you're all thinking...
It's way too basic. Nothing special... really

NRGZ28 said:
Okay... I'll be the first to say what you're all thinking...
It's way too basic. Nothing special... really
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Never hold back on what you wanna say, do ya?.. lol

I applaud your effort, not ready to get rid of my sliding panels though.

NRGZ28 said:
Okay... I'll be the first to say what you're all thinking...
It's way too basic. Nothing special... really
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That's exactly what i wanted the theme to be , very very simple , you can look at the title and you'll find i already described it by "simple", and that's what i love in arts in general

roloracer said:
It looks like you're trying to make your dash's screen look like a blackberry's screen, in my opinion.
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i didn't think about it when i was working on it , i just wanted to make it as much simple -and still practical- as i can , the digital clock was 1st goin to be analog , but i didn't want to add plugins so anyone can use this theme without any non-basic plugins , that's all !

Pointui Home 2

Pointui Home 2 is Out.
Not testing yet, i just install it, but looks prety great!
http://www.pointui.com/

Runs and looks great, but things i dont like:
- Too much space at the buttom and
- i had to install it on the internal storage and not on the SD Card
But the rest is, as i said before, great. Good work i think.

Finally!
Looks and feels great - I think I would def upgrade to pro for unified messaging etc.
I am a happy bunny! Might just have to ditch touch flo 3d

Dont work for me Have a Swedish stock ROM.

runs great!!!

well it was running good until it locked up my device lol, soft reset time

I dont like it, something is missing

It looks really great and the animations are smooth. But it misses some features but I think they will come some time because it seems rather easy to write Apps for it. Not like Manila where you have many problems with adding your own stuff.

anyone know how to add a city?

mallman said:
anyone know how to add a city?
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http://community.pointui.com/topic/cities-and-wheather

Look here - http://community.pointui.com/topic/cities-and-wheather

beauty "skin" deep only. not impressed
configurable? look at all the trouble to add a city to the weather....
customization? not even unicode fonts
a thin layer of candy eye skin and after one touch...back to the old WM really, nothing to trade the tf3d for...uninstalled it after 15 minutes!

Raudi1 said:
http://community.pointui.com/topic/cities-and-wheather
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unfortunately none of that works. Even the folks on the forum are having problems. Looks like it isnt working correctly yet.... but it is still considered beta so ....... modding those files only makes all the weather disappear Guess I will wait on this one for a bit

KukurikU said:
beauty "skin" deep only. not impressed
configurable? look at all the trouble to add a city to the weather....
customization? not even unicode fonts
a thin layer of candy eye skin and after one touch...back to the old WM really, nothing to trade the tf3d for...uninstalled it after 15 minutes!
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yes going to have to agree here. I am open to trying out new versions, definitely has potential with some additions and things you mentioned

No Thanks
I was a massive fan of PointUI v1 and had been looking forward to v2 being another huge step forward.
However, I have to say that it looks like a great big bag of crap next to TF3d (and I'm not a big fan of TF3d). Furthermore it seems to have limited functionality, is only a plugin and although it openly states it is a beta, the tone of the feedback in this site is distinctly mixed.
I think I would forgive the bugginess if it just looked better and brought something I thought was useful. But even the screenshots on PointUI's own site look poor quality.
Lastly, the 'Pro' version is paid for software - so how much? What will it do that Mobile Shell and WAD don't? Maybe the applet development will make it a must have...but it certainly needs a few good skinners on the case...
In summary...disappointed - just my personal opinion

iain.fraser said:
I was a massive fan of PointUI v1 and had been looking forward to v2 being another huge step forward.
However, I have to say that it looks like a great big bag of crap next to TF3d (and I'm not a big fan of TF3d). Furthermore it seems to have limited functionality, is only a plugin and although it openly states it is a beta, the tone of the feedback in this site is distinctly mixed.
I think I would forgive the bugginess if it just looked better and brought something I thought was useful. But even the screenshots on PointUI's own site look poor quality.
Lastly, the 'Pro' version is paid for software - so how much? What will it do that Mobile Shell and WAD don't? Maybe the applet development will make it a must have...but it certainly needs a few good skinners on the case...
In summary...disappointed - just my personal opinion
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Agreed. Not impressed at all...I'm sticking with WAD.

mmm
Yup aggred , instaled it .. and it was not as " smoth " as the 1.X, why have small buttons?.. why have news feeds?
I have a theme now for TF3D and it kinda looks goods... staying with that for a while .. sorry point guys

I quite like it, but it seems that I'm in the minority.
I've added my home town to the weather applet without any trouble at all, also local news in the today feed. Not sure why someone was having a problem configuring that. Pilot error?

barbapappa_86 said:
Dont work for me Have a Swedish stock ROM.
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It is hardcoded. I have the same problem on my dutch device.It doesn't find the install path on localized devicesI didn't see any icon neither.
So I started it manually.

hendrixus said:
It is hardcoded. I have the same problem on my dutch device.It doesn't find the install path on localized devicesI didn't see any icon neither.
So I started it manually.
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Yup, me 2. Now its running and seems to work quite smooth. I´ll will look this up later on, now its just incomplete.

[Q] Is there some kickass Today screen?

Hey there
Could someone give a really good advice with link to themes for it so I can see...
I have tried so many plugins that my eyes are bloody already...
Maybe I just didn't find good combination of plugin/theme...please someone..
thank you.

Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502056&highlight=theme+concept
if you know how to use WAD2. I think it's very nice.

Kick-ass Today Screen!!!!!
Yes there is.....Try the SPB 3.0....it out shines HTC home page!!!!!
Try the 30 day trial and if your lucky, you may find a serial for it too!!!!!
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/

Sopis said:
Hey there
Could someone give a really good advice with link to themes for it so I can see...
I have tried so many plugins that my eyes are bloody already...
Maybe I just didn't find good combination of plugin/theme...please someone..
thank you.
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You may want post what you've tried already so the suggestions that come through won't be plugins that you've already written off.
I'm currently in the process of testing SPB 3.0.1. Still not sure if I like it enough to replace TF3D as it doesn't allow total integration with my other apps...Resco contacts, sms chat.

I guess you are right.
For starters, I have installed SPB 3 and WM7 black skin..it is very good..not the best but good, I like it
So far I have tried:
×Throttle launch (not good, graphics were blurry, guess it is more for VGA , but could be OK for VGA device)
×PocketPlus (too much stuff, didnt like it)
×HTC Home (I dunno why, but I guess this plugin did something bad to my phone, it acted weirdly, although it provided informaton I wanted, I did a painful Hard Reset and after that everything was OK)
×SPB 2 (I used this for very long time, but I got bored from the graphics and I liked and hated Now screen at the same time )
×PointUI2 (this was freaking awesome, very smooth graphics, but I lack WVGA skins and applets, good skins were VGA only and I couldnt switch to my today screen, which I do sometimes to check how much have I called already)
×rlToday (this one could be great, but It was very small on my screen, I could hardly see the clock )
×this is all I remember what I have tried
Now I am using:
SPB 3
HomeScreen++ (I use this only as a Call Timer, but would like to use it wider, but dunno how , does someone have an advice how to get a MAX out of this prog?)
And I have Spb Wireless monitor and Spb Backup on my todayscreen.
Thats it. So I guess I have tried a lot, but still am not absolutely satisfied.
What I really wish for is something like Omnia today screen..Ow how I would like to drag and drop widgets...I know FEWidgets can do this but I dont like how it looks...
And what I would like to have mostly is somekind of desktop with Icons and stuff...ust like a normal PC....
Thx for replies guys.

juice said:
Yes there is.....Try the SPB 3.0....it out shines HTC home page!!!!!
Try the 30 day trial and if your lucky, you may find a serial for it too!!!!!
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/
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how do you know which version is the right one?
are there any pics of the software in action somewhere?

Well it sounds like you've tried just about everything lol! You didn't mention Wisbar Advance Desktop I see. This is the closest thing I've found where you can have the look and feel of your desktop PC.
Check out Mallmans Vista Theme here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468153&highlight=Vista+Theme < Check out his site for more themes here > www.swampthing.net

Ow
You see, as I said I didn't remember
I tried WAD already, but again, some things are not to my liking.
I guess I am very demanding
thanks for your helps guys.
I guess I will stick with SPB 3 for some time.
Although Id like to make my own theme but dunno how.
I made a thread about this, hope someone will throw some letters in it
Thanks.

[REQ] I Need A Kick Ass Interface.

Okay So Im Using Miri's ROM (Which Is Great, If You Dont Know How To Flash ROM's You Should Learn )
Anyway, I've Been Through PointUI2,Xperia Panels, SPB Shell And Im Bored Of Them.
Im Using The Android/Linux Too, Which Is Great But Its In Very Early Beta Stages, Id Like Something Fully Functional And New/Amazing.
Something Like 3D EyeTracking UI (Well It Would Be Very Far From It Considering It Isnt Out Yet, But You Get The Flow.)
Also, Please Dont Recommend TF3D, TF3D Is Dead
And If Anyone Could Find Me An Amazing Titanium Theme, That'd Be Great. I Like The Work All The People Put Into The Themes And They Look Great, Im Just Looking For Something A Bit More Simple, With That Extra Touch.

Sorry this is of no help to you at all, but thanks fo rpointing me in the direction of 3D Eyetracking UI

DanMccoy1 said:
If You Dont Know How To Flash ROM's You Should Learn
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If you don't know how to create your own UI themes you should learn
Why don't you create a theme in whatever UI where every word begins with a capital.. Like, hello, how kick ass is that
Just kidding

GCSE's Just Finishing School, No Time To Make My Own Theme.

Yeah I Can Understand That, For Me Too, School Is Taking A Lot Of Time As Exams Are Coming
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
kidding :|

DanMccoy1 said:
GCSE's Just Finishing School, No Time To Make My Own Theme.
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me too.
That TAT stuff (from the company that made the 3d eye tracking UI) appears to be not too different from flash animation and adobe after effects-type applications, both of which i'm quite good at (modest, i know) but i bet it costs a lot.
I also cant seem to figure out why, if its so good, we have yet to see a UI made with their apps. is there some catch im missing? i would contact them via email but they dont give one and i dont fancy giving them my home phone number, or calling a number in another continent.

You need to use
Homescreen plusplus
or
Rltoday
and make your own theme..