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Official HTC WM6 release - your opinions please

We've been waiting quite a long time for this moment, and finally it's here. All of you who already flashed official WM6 ROM into their Hermeses - please post your thoughts about it, how does it look like (screenshots are welcome), is it stable, does it lack some of the features, etc. For example: does it have VoIP on board? Is dialer and comm mgr 'old-style', or maybe 'touch-style'?
I hope that this topic could help us to decide whether to go for flashing official WM6, or maybe our chefs ROMs. Personally, I'm a little bit confused, if I should flash official, or Black Majik, or maybe wait for freshly cooked ROMs..? Thanks for all your input in advance.

eva_d said:
We've been waiting quite a long time for this moment, and finally it's here. All of you who already flashed official WM6 ROM into their Hermeses - please post your thoughts about it, how does it look like (screenshots are welcome), is it stable, does it lack some of the features, etc. For example: does it have VoIP on board? Is dialer and comm mgr 'old-style', or maybe 'touch-style'?
I hope that this topic could help us to decide whether to go for flashing official WM6, or maybe our chefs ROMs. Personally, I'm a little bit confused, if I should flash official, or Black Majik, or maybe wait for freshly cooked ROMs..? Thanks for all your input in advance.
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My plan is to take this new ROM and do my first stripped-down Hermes ROM (used to do it on Blue Angel but not Hermes so far) for speed and simplicity.
If I work out how to add in any updated drivers our cooks here have fiund I will but at a later date once I've got the procedure down.

definitely wait for freshly cooked ROMs

A2DP
Basically, i'd like to know how the a2dp is on this ROM. I use a2dp a lot since my phone is also my mp3 player. So does this rom have updated/latest a2dp driver? or is it no different than the other official roms when it comes to a2dp? So far Sleuth's latest has been the one with the best a2dp but if this rom comes with new/updated/latest a2dp drivers then it should be better right? user opinions please

Dialer Screen SUCK... looks the same as old wm5 one, Office does not include onenote Splash suck. everything else at the moment ok.. i think i start using it for just few hours..

Wm6 Official
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Wm6 Official
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eva_d said:
For example: does it have VoIP on board?
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Doesn't look like it.

Scree Shotes

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one hours later the first boot it seem a good ROM
so good to be quikly coocked

What version is Voice Commander?

Its Cyberon Version 2.0 Build 705142

@toxicated101
Cool, should be big improvement over 1.1 version then
What version is Midlet Manager?

Installed
Xbutton1.51
Live built1400
Mapking 10 (SD card)
CE-star R2C
Kaiser home plugin & comm manager
Disable Security Warning
NO hang and run smoothly

Midlet Manager
Runtime MIDP 2.0 : v10.1.7.575 (Build 20070403)
I'm a little disappointed that voip is nowhere to be seen.

caferoom said:
Installed
Xbutton1.51
Live built1400
Mapking 10 (SD card)
CE-star R2C
Kaiser home plugin & comm manager
Disable Security Warning
NO hang and run smoothly
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Caferoom, does that rom come with CE-Star or did you install it? Does it seem stable when you use the pinyin input from hardware keyboard? I have yet to fid a ROM that wasn't totally wrecked by installing CE-Star...THANKS!!

I install the Tradition chinese one with HTC X-button 1.51, but i got some problem,. When I end the program by X-button, I got the "shell" error and reset, after uninstall it works well, anyone have same problem?

ctohang said:
I install the Tradition chinese one with HTC X-button 1.51, but i got some problem,. When I end the program by X-button, I got the "shell" error and reset, after uninstall it works well, anyone have same problem?
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But it work fine with X-button 1.5, no any problem this moment.

I m just wondering how much memory it takes?
Do this new rom take up more memory than wm5?
thx

Why my is my Hermes so unstable...

Hey. I have installed one of the new roms (19209) and of this time, my hermes always hangs (etc. when i receive a call or so, or in the morning after wake up from standby...)
Before i had Shadow 2.0 without problems (also WM6). Now (after 19209) i installed Shadow 2.1 and my hermes always hangs???
What could i do??
Please help me.
thx
pOpY

I found that I was having the same issues, phone hard reseting itself and all sorts, I did the following to resolve:
Flash to Official wwe Windows mobile 6.0 AT&T rom
update my hard spl to the latest,
replace radio rom
update to WM 6.1 image of choice,
this is supposed to be an issue witht he big storage roms screwing with the phones storage, flashing to an original rom appears to resolve.
Cheers
Steve

wow, thanks for the fast reply.
But before i flashed the Shadow 2.1 i have flashed an non big Storage Rom.
i havent tried to reflash radio yet, but i will do that and then flash an original ROm first.
Which ROM do you prefer?
Thanks
pOpY

popy2006 said:
wow, thanks for the fast reply.
But before i flashed the Shadow 2.1 i have flashed an non big Storage Rom.
i havent tried to reflash radio yet, but i will do that and then flash an original ROm first.
Which ROM do you prefer?
Thanks
pOpY
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Hihi....
personally I suggest you to flash an official rom first ,
then go to flash the PDAviet rom ( my OS version) ,
its lightning fast and yet stable. ^_^
enjoy! ^_^

Another try....
Hey.
So i have done the following:
1. Flash HARD-SPL v9 (i had v7)
2. Check for Bad Blocks via mtty (nothing found
3. Flash Official HTC Rom (non big storage)
4. Flash Radio 1.54.30.10
5. Flash MY OS PDAviet rom (Green & Clean Version)
6. Installed my prefered Software:
PhoneAlarm
Resco Explorer
Birthdays Today Plugin
Large Startmenu
FTouchSL v2.5
PCM Keyboard 0.14
PocketCM-0.20b
S2U2 0.99p
SPB Mobile SHell 2.0
After some soft reset (while application installation) it starts up normally to the today screen and then hangs :-(
Does any of my installed software hang up???? Did anybody of you know if any of the above listed software is bad
(I could remeber that i always have installed this software without any problems (in Shadows 2.0 TE rom)).
cu
pOpY

did you make a manual hardreset after flashing the rom?

popy2006 said:
Hey.
So i have done the following:
1. Flash HARD-SPL v9 (i had v7)
2. Check for Bad Blocks via mtty (nothing found
3. Flash Official HTC Rom (non big storage)
4. Flash Radio 1.54.30.10
5. Flash MY OS PDAviet rom (Green & Clean Version)
6. Installed my prefered Software:
PhoneAlarm
Resco Explorer
Birthdays Today Plugin
Large Startmenu
FTouchSL v2.5
PCM Keyboard 0.14
PocketCM-0.20b
S2U2 0.99p
SPB Mobile SHell 2.0
After some soft reset (while application installation) it starts up normally to the today screen and then hangs :-(
Does any of my installed software hang up???? Did anybody of you know if any of the above listed software is bad
(I could remeber that i always have installed this software without any problems (in Shadows 2.0 TE rom)).
cu
pOpY
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Hmmm. The advice given was to flash the official AT&T ROM before doing anything else ... yet I do not see that step in the list of things you've done.
Instead I see you've flashed a different one. And you still remain unsatisfied with the outcome.
If your problems persist, I would highly suggest USING the advice you've been given before seeking additonal advice. If nothing else ... just out of respect for those who gave you that advice, to begin with.
Godspeed and good luck. I am personally happy with what WM6 is giving me, without needing to push the boundaries to where they are obviously currently at a breaking point with 6.1.
But If you absolutely find you have a NEED for WM6.1, where it's been stated to be somewhat flaky right now on the Hermes, I suggest you deal with that flakiness. After you've TAKEN THE ADVICE GIVEN, if it still doesn't work to your expectations, roll back and move on.
Just my own $0.02.
-pvs

Hey isn't the "official HTC Rom" an official ROM?? Ill think it is an official non Big Storage.
Until yet no freezes.....
If it freezes i will flash an AT&T Rom first
Oll report back
cu
pOpY

rosebud said:
I found that I was having the same issues, phone hard reseting itself and all sorts, I did the following to resolve:
Flash to Official wwe Windows mobile 6.0 AT&T rom
update my hard spl to the latest,
replace radio rom
update to WM 6.1 image of choice,
this is supposed to be an issue witht he big storage roms screwing with the phones storage, flashing to an original rom appears to resolve.
Cheers
Steve
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Ok, now it freezes again two times
Now i would try it your way.
Where can i get the AT&T Rom you have flashed?
thx
pOpY

popy2006 said:
Ok, now it freezes again two times
Now i would try it your way.
Where can i get the AT&T Rom you have flashed?
thx
pOpY
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pOpy,
Try here: HTC's AT&T 8525 Support Page. It looks like the same ROM is still available.
Good luck in your endeavor,
-pvs

@pvs: Thanks for the link.
I hat couple of freezes in the last days. Now i have found some time to reflash the rom you given me the link. After that i would flash the 1.54.30.10 radio and the G&C rom from PDAViet.net.
Ill report back..
Thx for your help
pOpY

I have installed HardSPL-9. is this normal that my hermes hangs at 100% after flashing a rom????
The rom runs after flashing.
thx
popy

I have flashed the B&C PDAVIET Rom. I dont know if this is a bug of the rom, but no my Hermes takes about 10 secs to wake up from standby!!! Now ill miss almost every call
Please help....
thx
pOpY

pOpY,
As I had alluded to earlier, from following threads in this forum, it appears to me that the current WM6.1 ROM available is not yet ready for prime time. I have decided to remain happy with the 6.0 versions ... especially after reviewing the reports on exactly what has changed in 6.1 (not much).
Maybe it's time to honestly ask yourself if the currently available upgrade to 6.1 is really worth all this trouble.
Again, just my own POV here.
-pvs

I have the same problem with more than 6 different wm6.1 roms... it's a serious bug in wm6.1, all roms!

It seems that the wakeup bug is gone now. Just soft-Reseted my phone. Now it wakes up normally.
The wake bug i just have in the PDAVIET B&C Rom one time, now its gone (hope a long time )
In the other 19209 roms from PDAVIET i havent some of this wakeup bugs (just the other issues mentioned before).
I will report back...
cu
pOpY

Now it runs over 2 days, without a freeze
Will now install my software!
thx guys
pOpY

Now it runs for 1 week without any problems
Flashing the AT&T Rom first solved my problem!!
THX

popy2006;2137265 said:
Now it runs for 1 week without any problems
Flashing the AT&T Rom first solved my problem!!
THX
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Great news pOpY,
Can you give a brief synopsis of what's improved in WM6.1 ... from your POV?
I'd love to hear what I'm missing out on by holding off.
-pvs

Smallest 6 or 6.1 Rom Stripped to the bone?

Need some advice.
I did look in the forum but couldn't find an answer to my question(s)
1 - I'm looking for a ROM which is stripped to the bone with only what is necessary for the Hermes to function as a phone with Bluetooth and WiFi.
I don't want to install office, voice command etc. just want to run a view programs like setup operator, pocket informant, opera, phonesuite, mobile shell and pocket breeze.
2 - Is it also possible to to build this into a ROM or do I need to install this after a new install manually.
For the commercial programs it's not the intention to install these programs cracked, I have a licence for all those progs so filling in my serials after installation is no problem.

To answer your first question, it is best to install a Clean rom, there are many of them around. Shadow and Faria seem to be the most popular. Have a play with them and if they are not stable enough for you then try a WM6 one, Shamanix rom also worked well. My fav WM6 rom was Berds SS_1-25. It was the bare minumim and worked flawlessly. Only my opinion.
For the second, just download the cab files for them and keep them on your storage card. There is no problem with installing them into the rom after the update is complete.
Happy flashing...

I did a search for Berds SS_1-25 in the forum but couldn't find it. Do you have a link to it?

Nemesco said:
I did a search for Berds SS_1-25 in the forum but couldn't find it. Do you have a link to it?
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I believe this is the one he was talking about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361090&highlight=Berd

6.0 rom
Search BlackDragon... he made a sweet 6.0 rom with 85 freekin megs free.... very bony rom
very quick also.. 6.1 go with a new pdviet rom

IMHO the lightest is Pandora naked for WM6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365604&highlight=pandora+naked

PDviet build 19900 is clean ROM. B&C and G&C has very few apps included.

You can also cancel the extended ROM setup and get a clean install of any ROM

thnx for the reply's.
Now I only like to know if it is possible to build the commercial programs into a rom.
anyone?

DIAMOND ROM without htc software (touchflo), just WM6.1

Hi,
I was wondering if theres a very fast and stable Rom who only has WM6.1 and anymore working with my diamond.???
Thank you very much for your answer

That's exactly what I want, too...a ultra CLEAN and FAST rom with just base system, so that I can install any soft I want.

There are plenty...
Look at the chef's LITE/LIGHT editions. Many of these do not contain Manila.
Chef 'swtos' just released an updated LIGHT ROM with no Manila.

dickenz said:
There are plenty...
Look at the chef's LITE/LIGHT editions. Many of these do not contain Manila.
Chef 'swtos' just released an updated LIGHT ROM with no Manila.
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maybe this will help more http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418312

thank you for your answer...
you said that this:
{Mar 4 2009}
WM6.1 WWE CE OS 20764, Build 20764.1.4.3, V2.6 Light, UC Ready
Based on new HTC release V2.03.401.3 (many memory leaks fixed)
Uldr is Reduced, Full Kernel Mode patch included.
Removed: office, keyboards, streaming media, manila, audio player, zip, etc...
Total Storage : 142.63 Mb, Free: ~129 Mb, Total Ram : ~107 Mb, Free Ram : 68.9 Mb (Early Start)
!
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should the best option?
Im gonna try it when i go home.
If someone has another recomendation please dont hesitate to post it.
Thank you in advance

soylatino said:
thank you for your answer...
you said that this:
should the best option?
Im gonna try it when i go home.
If someone has another recomendation please dont hesitate to post it.
Thank you in advance
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There is NO BEST option....
you need to see and judge for yourself....just try multiple roms untill you find the one who suits your needs....(the best one for you)
good luck
Regards
Jeroen

I just wanna know if someone was on my situation
I use at the moment AZTORs ROM and i have to said... it rocks! BUt it has to many things that i dont use...
RESPECT THIS ROM ist really good...
It will be really nice to find a rom with just wm6.1 and all BASIC diamond functions, without TouchFlo (Manila) and fast, secure and stable like AZTORs ROM.???
PD: I tried 7 different roms...

I use the UltraLight Morna 1.8 ROM from the great "Carburano":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469852
All roms are available in ITA or WWE version.
It's stable e fast....

Hi guys, I've read the entire internet looking for a solution...!
and I'm not able to find a solution... (probably because of my english skills...)
I've just bought an htc diamond on e-bay and it has installed a non-official rom which it has several troubles: Rom version 1.37.412.2 ESN
I've downloaded the last available rom in spanish (?):
(RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE_2.03.405.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23_Ship)
from the htc spanish site but when I try to install it an ERROR[294] : INVALID VENDER ID, comes up. I've read about Upgrading, cooking, flashing and about Hard-SPL, but I'm not sure to understand rightly enough, so here's my question:
What should I do to install the rom downloaded from htc?
I understood that I have the problem because the hard-spl installed on my diamond causes the problem, so I guess I should install a new one...but which one?, and if I'm wrong... where may I find the information to solve my problem? I'm getting nuts of trying so many different things...
Lot's of thanks even if you don't answer, it's been a long read!

jaume600 said:
and I'm not able to find a solution... (probably because of my english skills...)
I've just bought an htc diamond on e-bay and it has installed a non-official rom which it has several troubles: Rom version 1.37.412.2 ESN
I've downloaded the last available rom in spanish (?):
(RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE_2.03.405.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23_Ship)
from the htc spanish site but when I try to install it an ERROR[294] : INVALID VENDER ID, comes up. I've read about Upgrading, cooking, flashing and about Hard-SPL, but I'm not sure to understand rightly enough, so here's my question:
What should I do to install the rom downloaded from htc?
I understood that I have the problem because the hard-spl installed on my diamond causes the problem, so I guess I should install a new one...but which one?, and if I'm wrong... where may I find the information to solve my problem? I'm getting nuts of trying so many different things...
Lot's of thanks even if you don't answer, it's been a long read!
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Maybe this is something for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
Good luck upgrading
It's not that difficult, trust me...

My personal favourite ROM which sounds like it fits your needs is Suiller's Dia Duit ROM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440683
The beauty of this ROM is that, you simply put all your CABs into a directory on your Internal Storage. On hard reset / flashing, a script will automatically all your CABs for you! There's also a lot of other stuff that can be done (search for tweakPers.mscr in his thread).

nice nice really interesting... thank you people for your tips! i hope we can help someone with the same problem ))

xiaobenxiong said:
That's exactly what I want, too...a ultra CLEAN and FAST rom with just base system, so that I can install any soft I want.
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ultra clean and fast?
for me is fast o.k.
for ultra clean i can use my ... ähm .. what was the name ... boah, i am thinking but ....
aah its called HANDY
(dont angry, only joke (i hope))
okokur

When you look at people's custom roms, usually the ones without TF3D are called classic, lite, ultra lite, no manila etc.
The other thing you can do is go to settings and Today and remove the TF3D check box. TF3D will remain installed but it will no longer be running. You can get TF3D back by rechecking the box in Today settings.

make a list of no wanted and wishes language and wait a little bit.
you will get than your wishes rom.

Various artemis rom test results

ROM USERSThis thread is created to inform all the users regarding how disastrous or how good a ROM is so that others won't waste their time or brick their mobile by flashing the ROM. Also let others know that - for instance if you have installed SPB mobile shell then your system is stuck and you have to go for a hard reset. In such situation, we wont install that particular sofware in that ROM.
ROM COOKERS
Please note all Cookers do not be annoyed with this thread. Rather this thread is only to make better with our test results and to add stablity to your great ROM.

Extraclean ROMs
I loved the Extraclean ROMs, and been using the YuE one. Today I flashed the Andrea Extraclean one, it looks good and fast. My opinion is to have the ROM skeletonized, so I can install al my softwares. I never liked M2D stuff, nor other Contacts software other that PhotoContactPro.
So I'g love to have win 6.5 Crazily clean, in win 6.1 GUI.

almozaffar said:
I loved the Extraclean ROMs, and been using the YuE one. Today I flashed the Andrea Extraclean one, it looks good and fast. My opinion is to have the ROM skeletonized, so I can install al my softwares. I never liked M2D stuff, nor other Contacts software other that PhotoContactPro.
So I'g love to have win 6.5 Crazily clean, in win 6.1 GUI.
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i always flash back to andreW82 extra clean once ive tested other roms, ive seen it at 32mb ram free.. (28mb ram free shown in his rom thread) this rom is really fast and possibly my favourate 6.1 rom..
however..
for 6.5.. the babbelut rom is probably my other favourate with the spb shell..

Andrew82
raving_nanza said:
i always flash back to andreW82 extra clean once ive tested other roms, ive seen it at 32mb ram free.. (28mb ram free shown in his rom thread) this rom is really fast and possibly my favourate 6.1 rom..
however..
for 6.5.. the babbelut rom is probably my other favourate with the spb shell..
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+1 for Andrew82 - in my opinion this is the best ROM and even with PointUI installed I get well over 20MB free.

With Windows Mobile 6 5, which is the best in terms of memory/performance?
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almozaffar said:
I loved the Extraclean ROMs, and been using the YuE one. Today I flashed the Andrea Extraclean one, it looks good and fast. My opinion is to have the ROM skeletonized, so I can install al my softwares. I never liked M2D stuff, nor other Contacts software other that PhotoContactPro.
So I'g love to have win 6.5 Crazily clean, in win 6.1 GUI.
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Hello Almozaffar...
Is this the latest (((YuE_3.15_20931_ExtraClean_WWE))) or am I behind...I agree with you..YUE is the best...

Yes it is the latest. BTW: I am using AndreW82_WM6.1_21054_ExtraClean_v1.3_WWE and looks OK, but My Aretmis keeps freezing.

6.1 ROMS
Yeah..I tried Andre too. And I installed one applicaiton ( I think it was ineosft) and was not able to boot up..Had to do hard reset..(used a day)
Emrulez : Even simple functionality like time was not updating after 12.00 PM. (used a day)
Mischelle ( lite and vanilla ) is the best and great in speed and storage. However, it freezes for a minute once in a while...It just happens and I dont knw when...( a month)
Yes YUE is the best also OOPs Tom Condon..Wondering any new updates available....
I like extra lite YUE like u so that we can install our own application....
Also you can try Thai ROMs...They make better ROM
As of now YUE is the best..Thanks for the suggestion...Let me know any updates from YUE or just PM me

Hmm. I don't really like these types of threads, but I'll let this one stay, as long as you guys keep playing nice. I've seen threads like this start a complete flamewar before, so i'll keep a close eye on this.
Continue.

Hi
does any know which is the best winmo 6.5x rom? bcz there are soo many diffrent ones?
thanks?