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I got headache to choose, to keep my rom up to date!I'm still using custel 2.5. A lot of newer roms nowadays. Very positive growth.... Custel 2.5, Elf 2.1, Faria, Black 3.5 With Live Removed and Extra Storage, Black Dymond, vp3G's, LVSW, dutty's v2. and so many . Give me advice please.
Well duh, mine of course!
Seriously though, one of the best things about this place is so many ROMs to choose from. Each has it's merits (and it's quirks!). Just pick one, try it on and see how it fits you.
P.S. You missed one flavor in your list. Sleuth255 has put together a very nice LVSW variant as well. When in doubt, check the WIKI. I just updated it today, in fact.
Last weeks I installed almost all of them and (non-scientifically!) benchmarked their performance... See my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1284362&postcount=15
My conclusion: they all are stabile and have more or less the same performance (I think because they have more or less the same core.... sorry chiefs).
The one you could pick is the one with the extra's and addons you want...
My personal experience: LVSW Sleuth edition is very good!
At the moment I'm trying Faria..
i tried every rom (including black dymond). when it comes to stability, nothing compares to lvsw and the derivates. i use elf 2.1. nice combination of features, working bt, fast and STABLE.
what i dont need is a pimp machine with soft reset every two hours...
peter
I think mine is the best.. Actually, mine is unique in how it's built. I did cook some minor (and vital) things into the rom itself, but most is added via. ExtRom customization with all cab's modified to allow removal So, if you want Live, it's there. If you don't, just remove it. etc.. It's a different way to cook, and one that requires a whole lot of CAB modification.
My Live cab is different than any other cab on this site. I hand modified it to install in the way I wanted, and work the way I wanted. Personally, I think it's the best cab around -- and exclusively for Elf 2.1.
thank you. Very good benchmarking and very hard work! I'll try LVSW Sleuth edition.
I have used Elf 1.0 . It is very nice and marvelous build. But I got problem with battery charging. Then I tried black dymond and faria yesterday. But I have to go back to CUSTEL, because I feel more stable and more memory. Just now I tried Black 3.5 With Live Removed and Extra Storage and now I test Elf 2.1.
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I think mine is the best.. Actually, mine is unique in how it's built.
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Haha, you're proud of your work!
I'll soon give your version 1.2 a (longer) shot...
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Haha, you're proud of your work!
I'll soon give your version 1.2 a (longer) shot...
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I like my ROM.
CUSTEL still won Program and memory space. Faria, LVSW Sleuth edition and Elf 2.1 won the speed. LSLW based won the most stable. Which one do you prefer most? Do you agree with this conclusion?
Elf V2.1 works for me
I haven't tried all so I can't compare. Indeed I have only flashed my JASJAM yesterday for the first time with Elf V2.1. So far it has been working great for me. For those who has been hesitating to take the plunge, I would say read the WIKI. Make sure you know what you are doing. Then do it. I did that and I am a happy man. And I am sure many of these ROMs are all great. We (and MS) are lucky to have this great community to support this WM platform.
Cheers.
I agree with you. Their hard works are very great. Everybody in this forum and out there can't deny this.
LVSW 19-05-2007 Sleuth edition and Elf2.1 are very nice to try. So I test Elf 2.1 first. Sleuth still on downloading... rapidshare got a little bit slow.
cool topic
What a great thread to read peoples summary experiences. This kind of thread would have been previously scoffed at with ' go read for yourself ' replies by some that have left this forum except to throw the odd spot remark.
I am currently using FARIA after trying some of the Black and LVSW variants. I like FARIA a lot because of the addin utils, and am not concerned about only 20Mb free after boot. I make calls and use TomTom, not much more.
The MAJOR thing that I like about FARIA is that now my car charger works, whereas all the other ROMs didn't allow the car charger to work - go figure!
Thanks to all the contributors and chefs who hold true and know when to reply and when to ignore some of the less experienced users questions. Its about COMMUNITY, not superiority. Thanks, and may your sheep be blessed with a thousand lambs.
I like FARIA especially on startup, date/time finishing and speed. But it's addons take much memory so I have to reset so many times especially after using MAPKING and WIFI. I'll like FARIA if it a lite version with an option addons.
So I have a bone stock 8525, well its been unlocked, but thats it. Ive been told the actual phone control on wm6 is better than wm5. Which in your opinion is the best? Most non programer friendly and is oemish in other words stable. Im not looking to hot rod it just basic apps.
Thanks in advanced!!
they are all good in their own right. you will have to try them out for yourself to see which one you like. As many will tell you here. before you go doing anything, read the whole thread for that rom. then read the guides and wiki. Then you will be ready to try them out! good luck and enjoy. i m sure you will love whichever rom you choose!
Black Shadow is very good for me (Vario II, T-Mobile UK). Very stable and reasonably fast.
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So I have a bone stock 8525, well its been unlocked, but thats it. Ive been told the actual phone control on wm6 is better than wm5. Which in your opinion is the best? Most non programer friendly and is oemish in other words stable. Im not looking to hot rod it just basic apps.
Thanks in advanced!!
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another useless thread - they all have different pros and cons - delete the thread
just close the thread...better, delete it so its not visible
Your answer is here
Check this thread for the easy answer you seek:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313701
We all discussed this seriously only a few days ago. I'm surprised the search function screwed up again.
Sleuth ... if you would ... kindly ... again?
Thanks,
-pvs
Black Majik, the most stable and fast-responsive ROM, with HTC Home plug-in.
wow some of you guys are pretty harsh. Thanks to the others for there in site. I did do a search of words like best and favorite and stable and I didnt come up with much. Im new to the board so just a few days ago was non existent to me.
I figured they did have pros and cons hence asking which were like oem and stable.
If you are on Cingular VP3gs rom is outstanding. Otherwise read all the threads a few times and do about a few days of research before upgrading. If you don't follow the instructions properly don't be surpised if you brick your phone. Follow them and you shouldn't have any problems.
Thanks Aridon thats the first one I will start with.
Buth VP3G and Custel do awesome ROMs for Cingular, they are both very stable, and really comes down to personal preference between the two. If you're going to be using bluetooth devices I would look at VP3G's 2.0h which is a hybrid of other ROMs to incorporate better bluetooth performance.
Hi,
I think tom and meschle should join forces, making a fast, well performing (meschle) rom with good applications with an awesome GUI (tom).
Tom's roms always have amazing bootscreens, themes, and an overall very nice GUI, whilst they lack performance.
Meschle's roms always perform well and are very fast, but they lack the visual aattractiveness as Tom's roms.
Therefore, combining the two would produce an all rounded super rom!
What do you all think?
you can do it, you re the man!
no not me, meschle and tom!
Agreed. But there would still have to be some compromises made as rom can't be 100% as beautiful as Tom's and 100% fast as Meschle's.
Whats wrong with the new Vanilla ? It is just perfect...
Just install HtcHome or what you prefer for your design change bootscreen if you like.
Can it be better ? I guess not
can't find the keyboard icon and skin as in B&B
I don't qgree with you uzzy.
First of all, they are not the only coockers.
More, everybody has its own style: you mention the main difference between these two one but the purpose is to have everybody having its onw "touch" in roms.
Even if it is WM, the coockers are not MS
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I don't qgree with you uzzy.
First of all, they are not the only coockers.
More, everybody has its own style: you mention the main difference between these two one but the purpose is to have everybody having its onw "touch" in roms.
Even if it is WM, the coockers are not MS
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I agree with you this sener.
I think it would be a lot more effective if we filles the wiki with so much useful information that everybody could cook his own ROMs. The only thing we might need is a kitchen with a better gui. I used both of their ROMs and like both for the stated reasons. Since I couldn't decide which to use I cooked my own ROM.
You'll have to spend about 50 hours of reasearch to be able to create your own version if you are a beginner, with a little help and a lot of computer experience you can handle it in 2 hours or less.
Fast and super stylish won't work, compare XP and Vista!
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I don't qgree with you uzzy.
First of all, they are not the only coockers.
More, everybody has its own style: you mention the main difference between these two one but the purpose is to have everybody having its onw "touch" in roms.
Even if it is WM, the coockers are not MS
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If you don't like it you don't have to use it, but why deny other people the opportunity to experience something new?
Just because you don't like the idea, doesn't mean you have use your first post ever to stop tom and meschle making a rom together......its their choice, not yours.
And also, where did i say they are the only cookers? - I didn't, so why say "First of all, they are not the only coockers". This fact is totally irrelevant.
I mentioned Tom and Meschle because they are the BEST cookers for Artemis (Not the only ones).
Oh and btw, learn to spell.
Well, they are the best cookers in this forum that publish their work. I'm pretty sure there are guys (or girls?) out there that laugh about the beginner mistakes people are making here.
I'm not saying that I'm better than any other cooker out there, but I never published any ROM for legal reasons and because I don't want 1000 questions/answers for each ROM I produce. No thanx, don't got the time.
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I think it would be a lot more effective if we filles the wiki with so much useful information that everybody could cook his own ROMs. The only thing we might need is a kitchen with a better gui. I used both of their ROMs and like both for the stated reasons. Since I couldn't decide which to use I cooked my own ROM.
You'll have to spend about 50 hours of reasearch to be able to create your own version if you are a beginner, with a little help and a lot of computer experience you can handle it in 2 hours or less.
Fast and super stylish won't work, compare XP and Vista!
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I agree on this one!!
If somebody could provide a good kitchen with a better GIU, I would be able to learn to cook myself.
Now I just don't know how to start... you need to read/combine several threads to be able to get the info you need to start to learn...
If just some of those master cookers, can make a decent guide for us, we'll be able to do it ourselfs...
Hopefully one day somebody would do this guide and kitchen with a better gui, cause I really hope I can learn to cook
Believe me, cooking is not very difficult, (in my opinion) the Artemis' Wiki is crap if you are a beginner and want to learn to cook. I recently found out how this works and was amazed how fast you can cook a ROM. I'm currently busy at University but next week my tests are over and I will start creating my tutorials with pictures and videos.
You need HyperCoreKitchen, OK Package Creator and a official ROM, that's it. As soons as you know how to do it you can create your own ROM in minutes. I'll make a big thread out of it, you won't miss it.
I don't want to offend those who have spent a lot of time creating tutorials and writing into the wiki (thanx for your work guys!), but there are almost no all-in-one tutorials. I read in the Kaiser, Hermes, Artemis and some other wikis and forums to get all the informations I needed. Basically if you read the Hermes Cookbook and use OK Package Creator instead of doing all the package stuff it states there then you know what to do.
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Believe me, cooking is not very difficult, (in my opinion) the Artemis' Wiki is crap if you are a beginner and want to learn to cook. I recently found out how this works and was amazed how fast you can cook a ROM. I'm currently busy at University but next week my tests are over and I will start creating my tutorials with pictures and videos.
You need HyperCoreKitchen, OK Package Creator and a official ROM, that's it. As soons as you know how to do it you can create your own ROM in minutes. I'll make a big thread out of it, you won't miss it.
I don't want to offend those who have spent a lot of time creating tutorials and writing into the wiki (thanx for your work guys!), but there are almost no all-in-one tutorials. I read in the Kaiser, Hermes, Artemis and some other wikis and forums to get all the informations I needed. Basically if you read the Hermes Cookbook and use OK Package Creator instead of doing all the package stuff it states there then you know what to do.
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Thanks mate, really looking forward to your superguide!!
Simple question I want all opinions, I just got my 2nd 8525, and this time I am gonna do it RIGHT!! (last 1 i had I was super n00b and kiled it within 48hrs I cried for a week) Anyways I just want the simplest answer or opinion I want my 8525 to last forever. SO I will flash it to the BEST WM6 ROM once and never again will I change it.
SO I am looking for just the BEST GENERAL OVERALL WM6 ROM, I am just gonna be using it as phone and only use the WiFI to connect to the NET, so the ROM I am looking for needs to be STABLE and needs to NOT ruin me or my 8525, I have been reading everyones SIGs to see what ROMs ya'll use, but I just WANT the Opinions of the regulars here
WHAT Windows Mobile 6 ROM should I upgrade to?? I will take ALL suggestions PLEASE help me, I dont wanna kill my 8525 again, I just want to flash it and leave it at that!!
THANK YOU EVERYONE
P.S I'm not a complete n00b if u read the whole thread you'll see I do my homework
the number one advise which everyone has been giving which has been pounded into everyone's mind, which you somehow manage to avoid listening to, is to first install hardspl. Hardspl is a must if you want to upgrade your rom.
as for the best rom recommendation, i will tell you this, there is no such thing as a best rom, everyone will have their own preferences, what works for one may not work for another person. just see any thread on ppl asking for best roms and you will see many many different replies.
just by the fact that you are making this post i will assume you want the easy way out, you rather have ppl do the recommendations for you than read and learn on your own, so i will give you the easy way out solution. Install the official at&t wm6 rom, and just soft reset before the customization starts and there you go, all done. its either that or return you phone and get a firefly. or a symbian phone. but i highly recommend the firefly.
XtreMe_G said:
the number one advise which everyone has been giving which has been pounded into everyone's mind, which you somehow manage to avoid listening to, is to first install hardspl. Hardspl is a must if you want to upgrade your rom.
as for the best rom recommendation, i will tell you this, there is no such thing as a best rom, everyone will have their own preferences, what works for one may not work for another person. just see any thread on ppl asking for best roms and you will see many many different replies.
just by the fact that you are making this post i will assume you want the easy way out, you rather have ppl do the recommendations for you than read and learn on your own, so i will give you the easy way out solution. Install the official at&t wm6 rom, and just soft reset before the customization starts and there you go, all done. its either that or return you phone and get a firefly. or a symbian phone. but i highly recommend the firefly.
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doubt he understands... =)
follow this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462
and get Farias/Dr Puttinghams R32
enjoy ..
Remember follow the steps
HARSPL V7 first .. (from olipro)
You will find it and visit
wiki.xda-developers.com
Still don't believe noobs don't read the guides before installing. As test7875 said above you need to go through the upgrade guide, and possibly wiki pages before you do anything to your phone.
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Still don't believe noobs don't read the guides before installing. As test7875 said above you need to go through the upgrade guide, and possibly wiki pages before you do anything to your phone.
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this is my 2nd time around if you Wouldnt MIND checking out the attached jpeg of my 8525 Bookmarks you would see that I do DO MY homework, I have read the wiki over and over, and I already have DONE the HARSPL V7 first .. (from olipro).
Once you've got HardSPL on, it's up to you really. Some are good and some are...flaky, to be polite.
I would start with the official one from your carrier and use that for a day or two so you have a good, hopefully stable, benchmark to measure the competition up against.
Bang all your apps on it and see how it runs then try the same thing on the cooked ones.
Smiffy.
I Phrased my Subject of the Thread and my actual question WRONG, I know that ther is NO best ROM is all about what features u want, be I want the opinions of you guys, the ones that call me a n00b, I value your opinion, I did my homework, I just want to flash my 8525 ONCE to a WM6 ROM that will last me the life of the phone. Heres what I like 1. theme skins 2. stability 3. good wifi 4. and I guess I want no bloatware so it will be a FAST ROM
So basically I just want to know what you guys (the experts) can suggest to me. Just want 1 ROM that will enable me to use my 8525 to the best of its capabilities!!
thank you
nicknowsky
i have used the offical ROM on my last 8525, and thats the one that got me i n troube and killed my 1st 8525
if u read the post above I gave a description of what i am looking for, or you know what I would like to know What The Most Popular WM6 ROM Is?? (no 6.1)
this is my 2nd time around if you Wouldnt MIND checking out the attached jpeg of my 8525 Bookmarks you would see that I do DO MY homework
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I wasn't particularly mentioning you, just noobs in general. Not offence intended
As for a particular ROM. As you mentioned
I know that ther is NO best ROM is all about what features u want
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its hard to pick a ROM for you. Generally you can't go wrong with Farias/Dr Puttinghams/schaps to name a few. As for applications, be careful not to overload your phone with .cab's as this will slow it down.
There are a number of ROM's out there which are stripped of applications and built more for speed (though right now I'm having a complete blond moment and can't remeber one of them....doh!!!), and from there you can add to your own personal preferences.
Hey SPARTAN, I noticed u are using WM6.1, but before that what ROM did you use, and better yet what was the ROM that you used the absolute LONGEST??? or what is your personal favorite??
I'm a bit of a ROM freak, as I never keep the same ROM for any real length of time. Think I've used pretty much everything with little tweaks here and there.
Mostly used Schaps, as he tends to provide very stable ROM’s and eagerly awaiting Schaps 6.1 full version, but currently using Faria-R32 / Dr Puttingham WM6.1
Well I am close to going thru with the ROM flash, I just did my weekly REINSTALL of my operating system (been using XP lately) and I just installed the necessary drivers and programs to keep my computer from messing up or having ANY sort of error while the flash process is going on, just the very basics installed, thats really what the cause of death was for my first AT&T 8525(HERMES100) I got sloppy and was then a n00b, did a real n00bish thing and KILLED my 1st 8525. The funny thing with that was I had it for only 48hrs, and I cried for a week after. I still have it, might send it to HTC USA for repair.
But getting back to the todays upgrade, I am still in the process of deciding what ROM I will install, so I gotta ask are there ANY last recommendations on which WM6 ROM I should use?? I just wanna hear any and all last opinions
1st : Shamanix Ultimate v2 Final and 2nd : Kinokin WM6 Final.
I'm valuing ALL opinions
I know, I know this getting annoying and I keep asking dumb questions but I wanna decide, so here is the question
Which is better and/or more stable Schap's WM6 Pro 4.00 or 4.01???
and how good is Schap's WM6 Pro 4.31 cause I am almost leaning towards 4.31, but I like I have said before I want stability and something thats gonna keep my 8525 running longest and strongest
This is gonna be it NO more stupidity coming from ME, I just want last opinions on Schap's WM6 Pro 4.00 - 4.01 and 4.31
and THANK YOU everyone who took the time to help me, I know members like me get annoying, but I do my homework, I just wanted a little help
THANKS
Opinions, eh? I'm opinionated AND drunk...
Here's mine: go with 6.0 instead of 6.1.
People experienced in dealing with little niggles and issues by altering registry entries or installing lots of small cabs get on fine with 6.1, depending on which ROM of course. If you're new to upgrading then the issues that have yet to ironed out of 6.1 in such as a way as to make it a simple 1-click-to-install-and-you're-done job will probably annoy you too much. Smiffy's advice was really good mate: start with a ROM you can rely on, which basically means your own carrier's. If they haven't produced a WM6 yet (mine, OrangeUK, haven't and probably won't as they do lag rather badly in that area) then go for the most basic, cut-down and reportedly stable 6.0.
After you've got used to using your carrier's mobile you'll notice when the phone's faster or not when using different things on a new ROM. Only move up to 6.1 when you're well-used to how your phone fares with 6.0. (I'm assuming you won't install any benchmarking software. Not calling you lazy as I don't either - I just judge the 'feel' of it.)
I heartily recommend using mattk_r's Pandora Naked 6.0 - it's stable as any ROM I've ever used, including official ROMs. Give me a minute, I'l fetch the link.
Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1731669
I use a ROM based on the kitchen with a lot of my own kit thrown in. But I didn't start out like that; I started out like you, needing a few pointers, doing a lot of reading and occasionally annoying the hell out of myself.
By the way, if you're not using an SDHC card (which I assume you're not from the sounds of things) do me a favour and stick a copy of the original carrier's ROM on your SD card after renaming it HERIMG.nbh. Should you do a ChunkyMonkey Special and temporarily brick your phone (I used to do it all the time mate) it's an easy out in many cases, even if you can't boot past your bootloader.
(But take the SD card out when you flash your ROM. Although that's good practice anyway, so just do it.. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359917&highlight=ultimate
As you can see (if you checked!) Ultimate is based on Schaps 4.31 ROM and more refined.
I'd go for LVSW.
Seriously man, you're asking the impossible. If you've read the forum so throroughly as you've claimed, you'd know that once you start, you'll not stop. Each of the ROMs, whilst good in their own way, has some kind o prolems with it that will make you change it for something else.
For example - Schaps 4.31 - an excellent rom but you have to install a fix for button 5 plus a couple of other gripes. Nothing major but enough to make me eventually keep looking once something different comes along.
You're not going to find the "one" rom.
The only place you'll find the one is in the matrix. Flashing is like the red pill. You're free of restraint but it comes at a cost.
I know I am asking for a "DREAM" I really just wanted opinions of what would be a GOOD, solid WM6 ROM, cause I am gonna flash it ONCE to the ROM I pick and that s IT, not more flashing or trying out new ROMs and this or that.
Put it this way IF you all had to CHOOSE just 1 WM6 ROM to flash and the fate of the world was riding on your choice of ROM, it had to be stable and save humanity, What ROM would that be??
thats the kinda opinions I want to help me make my choice
Hi Everyone,
Can you kindly share your opinions about the best WM 6.1 ROM out there please ? Is there a 6.1 cooked ROM which comes close to the ROMS Schapps produced ? Personally I would prefer a stable , fast and bug free ROM rather than a glossy one with a plethora of 3rd party applications.
I have tried the Starbase S64 Manilla 2d rom but after a few hours of usage realise that it is not one I could keep for long due to problems with stability , speed and memory usage and several language bugs (German instead of English in Calendar, Maps etc)
Cheers !
the only way
To come up with an opinion is trying every single one, and decide what fits your needs.
We have benchmarks that has been done by Veyka on the sticky. And I have come up with two of my favourites on my signature, until you have flashed every single one (and I may add a good flash takes time) you won't be able to come up with any opinion at all!
Edit also there is an FAQ thread on the sticky.
Cheers and happy flashing!
Flash flash flash and compare, There's not much else to say.
We all do different things with our phone, I like CRC's, other people like PDAcorners, the almostnaked and anryl roms are good as well!
There all good! Just aim for a lite rom if your looking for something empty.
Also dont forget to flash a shipped rom if your going between Bigstorage roms.
please state your favourite
Hi,
If you have tried a few 6.1 ROMS please simply state your favourite. Or if you are just happy with any particular ROM share its identity with us. An exhaustive comparison is not necessary
Cheers.
[email protected] said:
Hi,
If you have tried a few 6.1 ROMS please simply state your favourite. Or if you are just happy with any particular ROM share its identity with us. An exhaustive comparison is not necessary
Cheers.
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the exhaustive comparison has been done right here.
Zocster is right, I have flashed many of the roms on this great site and the ones in his signature are top notch. although I really like MRH 8.4 sun shower as well due to its design and fit and finish. every rom is good though and I find it thoroughly enjoyable to test them out.
[email protected] said:
Hi,
If you have tried a few 6.1 ROMS please simply state your favourite. Or if you are just happy with any particular ROM share its identity with us. An exhaustive comparison is not necessary
Cheers.
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Ill retread my own work..
Myself, Im a CRC fanboy
PDAcorner if you like the icons
Dvha, good, fast, not always sure what they are upto though!
The newer chefs are as good as the pros in many respects!
Almost naked or Starbase64's new roms have TF2D in them! (Just as easy to cab install though)
Loaded roms are slower.
Bigstorage roms are faster but need more care.
quick question
I havent tried Anyrl roms yet because they are czech only, is this correct?
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I havent tried Anyrl roms yet because they are czech only, is this correct?
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Nope, there not, his kitchen is WEE, and as is his older roms.
I tested them all, they where very good!
Hes just currently actively working on the Czech roms thats all.
rileyd5 said:
Zocster is right, I have flashed many of the roms on this great site and the ones in his signature are top notch. although I really like MRH 8.4 sun shower as well due to its design and fit and finish. every rom is good though and I find it thoroughly enjoyable to test them out.
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yeah well the traitor has left us mind you DVH is getting better and better.
Oh hang on here is Anryl's WWE
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Nope, there not, his kitchen is WEE, and as is his older roms.
I tested them all, they where very good!
Hes just currently actively working on the Czech roms thats all.
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thanks for the clarification, I will do some searches for older Anyrl roms.
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yeah well the traitor has left us mind you DVH is getting better and better.
Oh hang on here is Anryl's WWE
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cool! I will check it out.
yep, the above are correct...flash away
oh, and be prepared to answer the same question tomorrow
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oh, and be prepared to answer the same question tomorrow
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lol you funny