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Hello,
Can anyone can confirm if the TyTN II is faster then the TyTN or they perform about the same?
Thanks,
Mike-
Hi there
Tytn2 is much slower. I sent the tytn2 back and kept my Jasjam. You would be typing an email and the letters would appear like 2 or 3 seconds later and thats not long after a reboot not to mention the difficulty you will have actually pressing the keys on the tytn2's stiff keyboard.
Cheers
First time hearing that TYTN II is slower. It could be because of ROM .. .You could try some of the custom made ROM s . THey are faster.
Another reason is due to the absent drivers for certain modules in the handset.
THese issues should be solved by early next year when WM 6.1 version is released.
Gopu
Thanks for the quick replys! I currently have the TyTN... I'm ok with it... but may want to upgrade (GPS, 3MP, ...) but I was curious about the performance between them... if we can see a difference...
Mike-
mike- said:
Thanks for the quick replys! I currently have the TyTN... I'm ok with it... but may want to upgrade (GPS, 3MP, ...) but I was curious about the performance between them... if we can see a difference...
Mike-
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I have both, TYTN II is much zipper, check some of the new cooked roms (vs. the bloated operator ROMS), TYTN II is much faster than TYTN.
aaronsmckee said:
I have both, TYTN II is much zipper, check some of the new cooked roms (vs. the bloated operator ROMS), TYTN II is much faster than TYTN.
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Hah I was just thinking about this... Is the difference worth your while? I've got an excellent little GPS receiver so that is not an issue... But what are the main differences in daily use? Just zippier?
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Hah I was just thinking about this... Is the difference worth your while? I've got an excellent little GPS receiver so that is not an issue... But what are the main differences in daily use? Just zippier?
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Depends on what kind of apps/how many your running on your phone. The extra storage means you can have a lot of apps on your internal rom (vs SD card). I have a lot of apps on my phone and now I have them on internal memory vs my sd card, this has resulted in dramatically improved performance of the programs I used to keep on my sd card. For the programs that I used to keep on internal storage I would say the speed is faster (depending on the app) but it is not as dramatic. In general the device is smaller, faster, the built in GPS is nice (though for you I guess it would not make a difference), and the tilt screen is neat but not a major breakthrough, imho.
All in all if your happy with the Hermes the Kaiser is not going to revolutionize your world, that said the tilt (att branded kaiser) is $ 175 on amazon right now so its not like you'll have to pay an arm and a leg for it (at least in the U.S. I'm not sure about Poland, if I had to pay $ 600+ for the device I would not have gotten it).
As another note a lot of the ROM cooks are moving to the kaiser so new ROMS for the hermes are going to become less frequent. Hope this helps your decision.
Ok... so TyTN II feel really smaller than TyTN? But If I'm correct... TyTN II is 20-30g more?
Mike-
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Ok... so TyTN II feel really smaller than TyTN? But If I'm correct... TyTN II is 20-30g more?
Mike-
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Not much smaller; it is slighlty thinner, and slightly longer.
c'mon, giga timne has not yet come
As for me, I would buy the TyTn IIonly if I had not a TyTn already. TyTn II has:
--more memory (not really that useful I believe)
--screen can be adjusted liek a laptop (must be nice?)
--GPS (if you need it; I got a BT GPS that works perfect with my TyTn)
--3 MP camera, but the same crappy lense, so that can harldy be called an improvement.
Conclusion: I won't buy a TyTn II, unless I find myself with an extra cash, or get a great deal.
My boss bought himself a Tytn II, because he got jealous of my Tytn . Played around a little with it. It's indeed faster and it has GPS. But that's about it. For my use the memory in my Tytn is sufficient. The Tytn II lacks the flashlight (that i use as a torch) and i don't like the shining finish (but that's taste).
So for now, i'll just stick with my Tytn.
Edit: the tilting screen is more a gadget than a usefull thing, in my opinion.
Personally I feel that there is too little difference in the two to have me switch. I will probably wait untill the next evolution of the TyTN will get here.
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Ok... so TyTN II feel really smaller than TyTN? But If I'm correct... TyTN II is 20-30g more?
Mike-
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yep thinner but it weighs more, you defintely notice it when you hold it, feels... solid.
TYTN II much better, faster, reliable, more prgram memory so no more soft resets, less freezes. htc tytn ii got a strong nice and better look to it, sold my hermes and never regretted.
also with these cooked roms coming out which makes hermes crawl against it.
just my 2 cents
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It certainly does. Thanks mate.
I used a TyTn II and I own a TyTn.
IMO:
- TyTn with a good cooked ROM can have about 28Mb of free RAM which lets you do about anything. Unless you need every single program on memory all the time, rarely you will deal with lack of RAM (I only lack memory IF I load a web page with lots of full size images)
- TyTn II screen rotation (or elevation) seems to leave less space for fingers on keypad. On my TyTn I don´t have this feeling (I feel good) but on TyTn II it does!
- TyTn II is indeed an evolution but not a revolution.
For people who are going to buy a new PDA (because don´t have/have an old one) and have to choose between a 600€ TYTN II or a 500€ TYTN perhaps it´s better to choose TYTN II.
If you own a TYTN keep it. TYTN is about as fast as a TYTN II and you will only miss the integrated GPS, nothing else.
I'd like to see some benchmarcks with Sktools, Coreplayer.. TyTN vs TyTN 2,, Could someone post some scores?
Thanx
If TyTN II had a GoForce chip, it will no longer be an argument. But for now, stick with TyTN.
I got my tilt for 100 from at&t direct (i was real lucky ) My dad is now going to get my 8525. I can tell it is a bit faster, there are some quirks I'm still dealing with, but that is what you get with a new device that the cooks are just digging into. As more ROMs come out it is only going to get better and better. For my situation the built in gps, autofocus on the camera, and added memory/speed were money very well spent. It does weigh a little more, but I think it makes it feel more solid (in a good weigh (pun intended)) To me it does feel noticiably slimmer, but that's just me. I might have paid up to 175 or so to upgrade, but honestly not more than that. If I was buying brand new I'd go for it.
If money is an issue definatly not worth the upgrade. I hate the fact that it doesnt have a flash, I dont use my for pics but as a flashlight. I will probably get one but will wait for the price to come down. I hate contracts and havent had one for years. I just wish HTC would come out with a better phone and just ditch the TYTN style. I want a screen size of the iphone with a qwerty and atleast a 500mhz processor as well as 256 and 128 if not more like 512 and 256!!!! and they need to come out with some better ions I mean 1500mah just doesnt cut it. A slimer version of the flame with a qwerty and wm6 would be a dream right now.
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I just wish HTC would come out with a better phone and just ditch the TYTN style. I want a screen size of the iphone with a qwerty and atleast a 500mhz processor as well as 256 and 128 if not more like 512 and 256!!!! and they need to come out with some better ions I mean 1500mah just doesnt cut it. A slimer version of the flame with a qwerty and wm6 would be a dream right now.
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After reading this thread, I'm all for making this my next choice:
http://www.imate.com/product.aspx?product=ultimate8502&skinid=1
there's a photo comparison of the Ultimate 8502 and the TyTN II here:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6831.html
It's not really available in stores yet though, it seems... The biggest downside seems to be that I would have to leave XDA forums...
I've had my Dash for close to 2 years now and I really like it. I'm using Ricky's ROMset and found that a huge improvement.
Despite this, I feel the need to upgrade to get 3G data speed and be able to use my phone in Japan when I visit. It feels weird to be using old hardware but I've tried a bunch of new phones and always come back to the Dash. In order:
S710/Vox - didn't like the keyboard and the "cursor" was on the wrong side for me
Touch Dual - no WiFi and no full keyboard
Pantech Duo - nice enough, but no wifi and I didn't like the keyboard feel.
Nokia E71 - it surprised me after thinking WinMo was a difficult experience to go to this new Nokia phone and find the s/w to be a complete disaster! Great h/w design though - just about perfect.
Palm Pro - nice enough but I was surprised to find that WinMo Professional was a pain - much harder to use than Standard
HP iPaq 910 - just pathetic - terrible keyboard, lots of bugs, and WinMo Professional
Samsung Omnia - a disaster - terrible UI buggy hardware
I've also tried the iPhone - which is great - but I really want to stick to a device with a keyboard.
So, all of this leads me to ask about what device can possibly be an upgrade from my beloved Dash. What better place to ask but on this Forum of Excalibur lovers?
So, here's my ideal phone:
Must have:
1. Full keyboard like the Dash - no sliders
2. Quad band GSM
3. Tri-band UMTS
4. WiFi
5. Windows Mobile Standard - or at the very least a high focus on usability with one hand without resorting to the ridiculous stylus.
6. Charging and connection to PC via mini-USB, no special cables
7. GPS
8. Good camera 3M or greater
9. Display that works in bright sunlight
Nice to have
10. Scrolling dial on the side like Blackberry
11. Big battery
12. Led for camera
13. Video cam on front
14. Wifi on/off button
Does such a phone exist? I doubt it! To many companies chasing iPhone UI and doing a terrible job of it, and forgetting the basics.
Interested in your thoughts on this. BTW, I don't want to go Blackberry because key apps are not available for them.
Thanks,
D
what about the g1? has a few of your required features.
possibly blackjack III (AT&T though) should be rumored to be coming out soon.
Sadly, you're asking for too robust of a machine. maybe one of the blackberrys has all that but i dont follow them.
Palm Treo Pro? I'm not greatly familiar with its specs but it looks pretty solid, might be worth checking out.
I do not recommend the G1, I prefer the dash over the G1 because its sorta boring now the G1... However, I really like the 3G feature on the G1...
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I do not recommend the G1, I prefer the dash over the G1 because its sorta boring now the G1... However, I really like the 3G feature on the G1...
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i've only read/heard reviews. not actually had one in my hand. i think the potential is amazing. i'll most likely be in the market for a phone in september, hopefully there's a new version by then.
Samsung Epix?
Thanks for all the replies.
Samsung Blackjack III is a WinMo Professional phone, which in my opinion is an inferior OS from the usability standpoint.
I tried the Palm Treo Pro and returned it. Nice device but WinMo professional. It had almost everything I wanted though.
G1 is a big keyboard slider and there are likely much better Android phones coming along.
Haven't heard of the Samsung Epix...will check it out (Edit: Ok, looks like this is just the Blackjack III).
I am leaning towards checking out the old HTC Cavalier too. While I ignored it because of bad review before, it turns out there is a WinMo 6.1 cooked ROM available. This will give me a Dash experience, but with tri-band 3G and a faster processor.
darkfinger said:
Thanks for all the replies.
Samsung Blackjack III is a WinMo Professional phone, which in my opinion is an inferior OS from the usability standpoint.
I tried the Palm Treo Pro and returned it. Nice device but WinMo professional. It had almost everything I wanted though.
G1 is a big keyboard slider and there are likely much better Android phones coming along.
Haven't heard of the Samsung Epix...will check it out (Edit: Ok, looks like this is just the Blackjack III).
I am leaning towards checking out the old HTC Cavalier too. While I ignored it because of bad review before, it turns out there is a WinMo 6.1 cooked ROM available. This will give me a Dash experience, but with tri-band 3G and a faster processor.
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The BlackJack 3 looks like a really sick phone, I would love to get that...
i moved on to the iphone.. it's the best phone upgrade i've ever made.
the htc tyten2
I am waiting until Feb-March for the Android phones coming out. The G2 should be coming out around that time. It will be the HTC Touch HD w/Android. Should be sweet. IF you have a little more patience, wait for the nuvifone or nuvifone w/android .
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I am waiting until Feb-March for the Android phones coming out. The G2 should be coming out around that time. It will be the HTC Touch HD w/Android. Should be sweet. IF you have a little more patience, wait for the nuvifone or nuvifone w/android .
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lol the g2 bro? no......
u think there actually going to come out with a g2 less then a year after the g1? there not even done updating the bugs....
I THINK you should get the HTC Fuze A.K.A. touch pro
att phone but unlockable *like mine* for tmobile
Universal!!
Even is not new but can beat more of the newest devices
Doesn't cover every one of your requirements, but the HTC S740 comes close.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/s740/overview.html
The new g2 phone??
Comments and rumors about a g2 already in the works a floating all over the web, the're also saying that they will be getting rid of the slide full querty key board but this was the only thing that I found with pics of an actual device called the dream/g2 phone, if it's true or not , that's up to time to say, cause eventually we'll see if an official announcement is made.
check it out. http://www.wikio.com/article/85876255
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Comments and rumors about a g2 already in the works a floating all over the web, the're also saying that they will be getting rid of the slide full querty key board but this was the only thing that I found with pics of an actual device called the dream/g2 phone, if it's true or not , that's up to time to say, cause eventually we'll see if an official announcement is made.
check it out. http://www.wikio.com/article/85876255
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lol, I don't think that will be the official g2. Looks like a chinese rip-off with android. And its absolutely nothing like the touch hd, like mentioned earlier. Nice find though
I have had the TYTN II for the past year and a half and now I can upgrade my phone. I have narrowed the choice down to the Touch Pro 2 as it seems like the next logical step and the Hero with Android, but I was put off by the fact that there is still no screen drivers for this for the QUALCOMM chip ( the same as it was with the TYTN II ).
I am used to having a brick of a phone so the size is not that big an issue. Is the screen an issue like it was on the TYTN II, as some games required you to touch the screen to control, the TYTN II at least had the pad for control, but this isn't present on the Touch Pro II so the screen is the only input method ( other than the keyboard ).
I primarily use the phone as a phone, MP3 player and to play Divx via core player I also play the odd game as I have a long train trip in the mornings and evenings. I ruled the Hero out at this point as I cant seem to find a decent Divx player like Core Player on the Windows mobile.
The other question I wanted to know is, what is the screen like when viewing in the daylight. The TYTN II gets washed out and I end up cupping my hands over the screen to unlock it ( the screen really dims when locked ) Is it viewable without having to set the brightness up to full... I have a Blackberry 8820 and than can be used in the daylight no problem.
Does anyone know how the battery life also compares to the TYTN II with roughly the same usage ?
Thanks in advance.
Hi there mate,
Previous to my Rhodium (TP2) I had a TyTn II.
Currently im loving my TP2, the brightness isnt an issue as it has a light sensor so adjusts accordingly and does a good job of it.
The screen is awesome, IMO much better than the one on TyTn II.
I have tried two 3d games on my Touch Pro 2, however i do have Neo beat direct3d (??? correct me if im wrong) drivers installed, and both games seem to run flawlessly.
Battery life is my only issue, it seems my TyTn II was better, however, admittedly, I have yet to fully charge it since I bought it on Saturday, its only had random charges.
Overall, im very impressed with the device and to me its definatly superior to the TyTn II and worth the upgrade
That's too bad to hear about the battery. I'm upgrading from the TyTn II as well (how many of us are there..?) and it's in the mail so I haven't gotten a chance to check out all of it yet (hard to tell with a store model)
Like many, I've also upgraded from the TYTNII to the TP2. Awesome device and much better than the TYTNII in every way possible.
(also very proud to say to I've converted 2 iCrap admirers to TP2s...)
yes, it's the logical step and yes i was tytn ii user (and two others beforehand)
and i can testify that tp2 plays video better than diamond and sex1, same spec'd they are, even when the differences are small. it's even better than tytnII, amazing if we think that it has more than quadruple tytnII pixels.
and yes my tytnII could achieved better battery life, better sigtnal reception, better gps, but that's only after dozens of testing radio roms and also os roms, after more than 1 year. you must know, of curz...
more amazing is, all my tp2 current performance is still based on my original WWE OEM rom. imagine result when using cooked ones
hope i help you stopped hesitating, mate
I too used a TyTN II before with several custom roms, and I must say I'm impressed by the TP2 on stock. In fact, the only reason I'm currently looking at getting Hard SPL fixed is because I've a Dutch OS and I prefer English.
If I were you, I'd base the decision to buy a TP2 over other models on the need for a hardware keyboard. The features/stability/smoothness of the stock rom does not have to be a reason to avoid it imo.
i don't wanna open another thred so i'll post here... it is still related to upgrading to tp2
i have had the tytn... i jumped to nokia for only one reason... it drived me crazy the latency of the phone app... and of course the blacklist apps that were worthless considering that the busy tone entered at least 1 sec after the actual ring... one other issue was the connection with my parrot car kit... ck3100... it worked but not 100%...
now i ihave seen the touch pro 2... first i had my eyes on the n97... but after holding it in my hands for a few minutes i got disspointed... the touch pro 2 i just like it... althogh i have never seent it live..
my issues are
1. how it is from the responsivnes point of view... compared with the tytn and also with symbian phones
2. should i buy tp2 now or just wait a little more considering that this was launch quite a while ago and it could apear not far in the future another one better?
3. i haven't found a video with the autorotate function in action... is it working?... i mean based on the g sensor not the keyboard sliding...
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and yes my tytnII could achieved better battery life, better sigtnal reception, better gps, but that's only after dozens of testing radio roms and also os roms, after more than 1 year. you must know, of curz...
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Man, that is disappointing. I never used the GPS on my Tilt, but either way T-Mobile's service will kick the **** out of AT&Ts in my area. I don't get service ANYWHERE right now. I charge my phone every night, anyway, though..
Thanks for the replies. For all its quirks I think the TyTn II is one of the best phones I have ever had, and I have gone through some phones, the first windows mobile I had was an SPV E100 with the clip on camera ( I am a hoarder so its still in my loft !! ). Because of the keyboard and the tilt screen I ( like others ) see the TP2 as a logical step to go to....
The thing is the lack of a touchpad kinda niggles me, but looking around, it looks like its being dropped from a lot of touch phones now, there wouldn't be much of an issue it was multi touch, but in this case it isn't. The dropping of the touch pad looks more to me like making the phone look like the iPhone rather than an improvement.
That said I am swaying more and more to the Touch Pro II, but a just a couple more questions if you wouldn't mind...
Does Tom Tom 7 work OK on it and does the lack of the touch pad really make a lot of difference...
I tried using my phone without touching the pad and I found navigating test to be a pain, but that may just be because I am just used to the pad, and I guess I will just get used to it not being there.
Just want to make sure before the jump as it will be my phone for the next eighteen months, and as its something I use every day then I just wanted to make the right choice.
The only other phone I was looking at now was the Omnia II but no keyboard
Again real big thanks for all the replies.
No problem, mate, i also read the "i got mine" thread over and over before buying since I was practically "engaged" with my sex1 at that time. My gripes for sex1 was smallish 4-row keyboard (i have fat fingers too), non-flushed screen and no accelerometer. I trade those for lack of d-pad, and after a month now i'm content The keyboard is a feast! (take this from a guy who had used several devices with sliding keyboard)
I use Garmin XT so i cannot comment on Tomtom which doesn't have map for my region. *IMHO, touch and drag is faster than clicking d-pad*
And the autorotate can be tweaked to work all-time (default is only limited programs).
Responsiveness is excellent in stock rom, with minor tweaks it beat tytnII running the fastest 'naked' custom ROM. Symbian (N97)? I read many reviews and most are not very happy with its responsiveness, so i can safely say it's unmatched =)
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i don't wanna open another thred so i'll post here... it is still related to upgrading to tp2
i have had the tytn... i jumped to nokia for only one reason... it drived me crazy the latency of the phone app... and of course the blacklist apps that were worthless considering that the busy tone entered at least 1 sec after the actual ring... one other issue was the connection with my parrot car kit... ck3100... it worked but not 100%...
now i ihave seen the touch pro 2... first i had my eyes on the n97... but after holding it in my hands for a few minutes i got disspointed... the touch pro 2 i just like it... althogh i have never seent it live..
my issues are
1. how it is from the responsivnes point of view... compared with the tytn and also with symbian phones
2. should i buy tp2 now or just wait a little more considering that this was launch quite a while ago and it could apear not far in the future another one better?
3. i haven't found a video with the autorotate function in action... is it working?... i mean based on the g sensor not the keyboard sliding...
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no one willing to give his opinion on this?
OK, finally got round to taking the plunge and got one on contract from Vodafone as Orange tells me they are not stocking the phones anymore.....
Got it on Your Plan 100 + unlimited Mobile Internet for £25 a month and only had to pay £60 for the phone
Thought it was a good deal as its the same as my current Orange plan.
Due for delivery tomorrow.
Going to be fun re-installing all the apps stuff I want on it.
I've been using the HTC Touch Pro 2 since last April with T-Mobile. I've absolutely loved the functionality, including ability to customize the ROM(<3 Energy), simple to use web browsing, texting, email, wifi router, bluetooth ability, and many other features that come with the smart phones. I'd die right now during school/work/personal stuff without the calendar.
When I bought it last year, the HD2 was sitting next to it, and the reason I went with the HD2 was the hardware keyboard. Software keyboards annoy the heck out of me unless they're well done. I could type 5 times faster on my TP2 than an ipod touch. But, what is getting to me now after using the TP2 for 10 months?
- Camera: Quality isn't high enough compared to other shots I've seen taken by phones. I switch the lighting settings to tweak it, but it's still grainy. I as in a dark club the other night, and watched someone take pictures that were noticeably clearer than mine.
- Lack of 3.5mm Headset Adapter. I have to use the HTC USB -> 3.5mm adapter to listen with earbuds to music. Annoying.
Like I said, the hardware keyboard is almost necessity, but I could learn to deal with a software if it's not the kind that can be easily fat fingered.
That's all I can think of right now. Any help with the phone upgrade process would be greatly appreciated.
i think your first decision is probably are you going to stay with windows phone 7, android, iOS, or webOS.
Almost all of these software has some nice phones with physical keyboard. 3.5mm headphone jack (it's pretty much standard now with most high-end phones). If you want a good camera, go with the phone with led flash support then you probabaly will be fine.
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i think your first decision is probably are you going to stay with windows phone 7, android, iOS, or webOS.
Almost all of these software has some nice phones with physical keyboard. 3.5mm headphone jack (it's pretty much standard now with most high-end phones). If you want a good camera, go with the phone with led flash support then you probabaly will be fine.
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I liked the TP2 after I got it because it was an operating environment I was used to and familiar with. I haven't used any other one, so I can't comment on it. What are examples of phones with hardware keyboards that have the same, if not better functionality than the TP2, including the things I listed of any OS? The HD2 and HD7 look enticing, but if there's something similar that might suit my needs better, I'm just looking for suggestions.
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I liked the TP2 after I got it because it was an operating environment I was used to and familiar with. I haven't used any other one, so I can't comment on it. What are examples of phones with hardware keyboards that have the same, if not better functionality than the TP2, including the things I listed of any OS? The HD2 and HD7 look enticing, but if there's something similar that might suit my needs better, I'm just looking for suggestions.
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If the keyboard is what you care about, then perhaps you should simply wait for the HTC 7 Pro to be available. It is basically the Touch Pro2 on steroids. It is the successor to the TP2 and runs WP7. There's a thread with a bunch of useful information HERE.
I'm in same boat as you, trying to figure which phone next. Still cannot decide and will give it another year, mainly because 3G networks are in a state of flux where I live (now still using EDGE). I will likely either go to Android if I can get the sync with MS Office to my liking or WM7 if the apps take off. No interest in other phones.
As for headphones on TP2, I have a nice bluetooth set by Jabra that does away with need for jack.
I was in the same boat as you a couple months ago when my contract ended with my provider. I had been looking at WP7 since the first whiff of it came out, but the more I read about it the more I disliked it. Long story short I greatly dislike all of these current operating systems for varying reasons.
So eventually I decided that the TP2 was as good as it was going to get for me for now, and bought up a couple extra of them. They're relatively cheap, and they all should last me until I cannot physically use them anymore (carrier doesnt support for some reason, or I can't find any good batteries, etc..) or until some company makes something desirable for me.
My advice is that you research at length all of your options before you end up with something you don't like using. It took me a lot of time playing around with android and WP7 before I decided I didn't want any of them. The TP2 is an excellent device and Windows Mobile is an excellent OS, don't let anyone fool you into thinking otherwise.
As far as your complaints, 3.2 MP is enough for me and my carrier's TP2 includes a headphone jack.. So I guess we're not in the same boat in those regards...
maybe an evo shift 4g?
http://www.htc.com/us/products/shift-sprint#overview
and i dont know where you live, but in europe we have an HTC Desire Z
Check out my review/comparison of the Desire Z (T-Mobile G2) to the Touch Pro 2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955526
A friend of mine works at T-Mobile, and can have any phone he wants (that T-Mobile carries). His weapon of choice is the G2.
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Check out my review/comparison of the Desire Z (T-Mobile G2) to the Touch Pro 2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955526
A friend of mine works at T-Mobile, and can have any phone he wants (that T-Mobile carries). His weapon of choice is the G2.
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I'm in a similar boat... I love the TP2 for it's design, had a Tilt before so this was a great upgrade. But there's nothing that's coming out from HTC that I've seen or heard of that looks like an upgrade. The 7 Pro is kind of an upgrade, but not the same kind of amazing upgrade like the Tilt to Tilt 2... I would like a slightly larger/better display but also keep the physical kb... I've been lookin at the Atrix (even tho they say you can't put custom roms on it yet), just cuz it sounds pretty sick but I keep hoping a phone w/ a kb comes out. Looks like Dell is gonna bring something out but not til the end of this year I think... I really hope HTC brings out a Tilt 3 w/ a 4-4.3in screen, better camera, runnin android since I don't really like WP7 & a dual processor...lol
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I'm in a similar boat... I love the TP2 for it's design, had a Tilt before so this was a great upgrade. But there's nothing that's coming out from HTC that I've seen or heard of that looks like an upgrade. The 7 Pro is kind of an upgrade, but not the same kind of amazing upgrade like the Tilt to Tilt 2... I would like a slightly larger/better display but also keep the physical kb... I've been lookin at the Atrix (even tho they say you can't put custom roms on it yet), just cuz it sounds pretty sick but I keep hoping a phone w/ a kb comes out. Looks like Dell is gonna bring something out but not til the end of this year I think... I really hope HTC brings out a Tilt 3 w/ a 4-4.3in screen, better camera, runnin android since I don't really like WP7 & a dual processor...lol
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The Atrix concept looks very cool, but I've been pretty underwhelmed by the recent Motorola handsets. They just feel cheap and clunky compared to HTC phones. But maybe they can step it up a notch. Similarly, the Dell Streak seemed like nothing special that just about every other manufacturer couldn't match or do better. And there were some things, like the proprietary dock connector, that were outright inexcusable. Again, they are going to need to kick it up a notch to get me remotely interested in their products.
I agree that a slightly larger screen (maybe around 3.9 or 4.0 in) would be really nice for watching video, and make the on-screen keyboard easier to use (for the times you don't feel the need to flip out the hardward keyboard). But I think a 4.3 in display with a hardware keyboard would result in a really big, thick, heavy phone.
But I have to say, the Desire Z is a pretty sick upgrade over the Tilt2. Maybe not in terms of form factor, but in terms of just about everything else.
I have no upgrades available for a long time so I'd be buying retail. The 7 pro looks quite interesting. Maybe I'll stop buy the T-Mobile store and see how the desire z feels. Is there much of a change over the TP2 to go to a Desire Z?
I've somewhat fixed the no 3.5mm jack issue by buying a bluetooth headset that supports a2dp. I guess that'll hold me over until later this year if I upgrade.
raz1337 said:
I have no upgrades available for a long time so I'd be buying retail. The 7 pro looks quite interesting. Maybe I'll stop buy the T-Mobile store and see how the desire z feels. Is there much of a change over the TP2 to go to a Desire Z?
I've somewhat fixed the no 3.5mm jack issue by buying a bluetooth headset that supports a2dp. I guess that'll hold me over until later this year if I upgrade.
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The keyboard on the Desire Z is smaller than the Touch Pro2, but most people who own it say that it still feels very nice. I would miss my dedicated number row, though. I've gotten very used to it.
i have loved my touch pro 2 for the past year or so and all the devs, everyone at XDA made me love it even more. my girlfriend has an iphone and ill never ever trade my phone for iOS and theres not any other phone carried by ATT that is any better than the touch pro 2 i think..but then the Atrix came along. its a sad realization but you cant compare the specs of our touch pros to any of these new devices. sure im sacrificing the full qwerty kb we all know and love and moving on from winmo 6.5 (that ive grown with since 5.x) but i feel like its for the better. especially with all the wear and tear ive put my phone thru, sure is one hell of a trooper thats for sure, its time to set it down and ive made my decision. expecting my atrix to arrive this coming monday. so with this goodluck to all with whatever you decide!
Phone after TP2
I'm also investigating new phones (although doing so would also require me to give up my sero plan, which seems unlikely at the moment).
For me on Sprint, there seems to be a few major choices that include a physical keyboard that I was looking at:
Android:
-HTC EVO Shift
-Samsung Epic 4G
WP7:
-[upcoming] HTC 7 Pro
The EVO shift has a similar sized screen to the TP2, while the Epic 4G goes a bit larger (4") and has a faster processor (1 Ghz vs. 800 Mhz on the Evo Shift). Nonetheless, I'm still pretty turned off by the touchwiz UI on the Epic 4g -- a bit to cartoony for my tastes.
Since the 7 pro is essentially the successor to the TP2, the dimensions are pretty similar albeit with an upgraded processor (1 Ghz).
I'm currently running XDAndroid on the TP2, so I have a sense of how android works, but I've never tried WP7 -- after classic WinMo I'm still kind of hesitant to go back to Microsoft.
To anyone who has been using WP7 -- any thoughts on the disadvantages/advantages over android?
I guess the most obvious phone would be the HTC 7 pro closely followed by the Desire Z.
Personally i decided to keep my TP2 after 2 years (i can pick a new phone @ my provider in june). The phone does everything i want.
The only program i miss on Windows Mobile is WhatsApp/pingchat
FeareX said:
I guess the most obvious phone would be the HTC 7 pro closely followed by the Desire Z.
Personally i decided to keep my TP2 after 2 years (i can pick a new phone @ my provider in june). The phone does everything i want.
The only program i miss on Windows Mobile is WhatsApp/pingchat
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I get the Desire Z. I went to T-Mobile hoping to find one to even hold and play with, but didn't see one. I'm just really hung up on the hardware keyboard when considering an HD7. The hardware keyboard makes me want to pump out paragraphs of forum posts on the phone. The software keyboard makes me hate texting.
Same thougths here, and same conclusions, just like some people wrote: I tried some phones, but the only possible choice would be the Desire Z (7 Pro w/o card slot is a NO GO!). I ended up buying an new display to replace the cracked one in my TP2 (via ebay, from HK), saving LOTS of money, and still having the device I like and am used to.
Someone wrote about TP2 being cheap(er) now, where do you get them and at which price? They're still above 50% of the price at introduction around here in Germany. If they were cheaper, I'd buy one as spare, too.
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Same thougths here, and same conclusions, just like some people wrote: I tried some phones, but the only possible choice would be the Desire Z (7 Pro w/o card slot is a NO GO!). I ended up buying an new display to replace the cracked one in my TP2 (via ebay, from HK), saving LOTS of money, and still having the device I like and am used to.
Someone wrote about TP2 being cheap(er) now, where do you get them and at which price? They're still above 50% of the price at introduction around here in Germany. If they were cheaper, I'd buy one as spare, too.
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They go for cheap in the Marketplace forum here in XDA every now and then. There's also eBay. I've seen them as low as $120 recently.
That's an incredible price! They're still well over 250€ new on Ebay, almost 400€ in the cheapest onlineshop I found in Germany! WOW.
I will vote for HTC 7 pro, as you've been used to using a keyboard, it's hard to go back to the on-screen one, and BTW HTC 7 Pro is really amazing
I have rethought everything.
Should I keep my H1X and buy the Galaxy Note II when it comes out in Q3, or return the H1X which has overheating problems (as most do) and buy the SGS3 when it comes out instead.
Which do I choose? I need to decide by the end of today, please be honest!
Wow! Just wow!
sadly this is a choice only you can make, remember HOX give you full tregra games, s3 does not.
plus sense looks much better then touch thingy bobber.
also may i add no over heating problems here, or any other problems for that matter.
is this serious ?
suppose it is, what exactly are the benefits you are looking for?
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Sounds like you want a Samsung device. In that case return your HOX and wait for the Samsung device.
All the pros and cons of this phone are listed on this forum. But only you can judge what's right for you.
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Sounds like you want a Samsung device. In that case return your HOX and wait for the Samsung device.
All the pros and cons of this phone are listed on this forum. But only you can judge what's right for you.
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I just don't get why anyone with a working phone should exchange it with e.g. a Samsung one. HOX is such a great phone, imho
My Samsung experience started with the Omnia II, which was -to say the least- such a crap that I was really quite "happy" when my girlfriend dropped it after I got it 3 Month. I instantly bought the Galaxy S, sold the Omnia II when it was repaired. Was using the Galaxy S for 2 years now and honestly... touchwiz und stuff is kind of kindergarden shti compared to Sense, it was a solid phone, no doubt, but compared to my new HOX, its quality was kind of kindergarden, too.
I still think the Galaxy S is a quite good phone and I was happy with it. There were little drawbacks I could ignore all the time. BUT ONLY if you pull on Cyanogenmod or at least some other custom rom. Stock firmware was always terribly unresponsive, laggy, buggy and stuff... Sure one can't compare the pure hardware specs because just everything in the HOX is just plain 'better', except maybe soundchips, because Galaxy S had a quite impressive Wolffson soundchip
And whats it about with "overheating"? The Galaxy got hot when you played some games with crap graphics, battery dropped out very fast, especially after a year of use. Now with the HOX I'm playing games with very impressive graphics on 4+1 cores, and the phone doesn't get very hotter then my Galaxy S, plus the battery lasts longer then I'm willing to play ^^ PLUS I don't have to wait an eternity till the phone is responsive again after quitting the game...
So after over 2 years of Samsung, I would recommend the HOX to everyone (except you're really a Samsung "fanboy" ). Even though I was one of the folks who had to get it replaced through warrenty first...
Buy all of them and keep them all. You may need extra cell phones for the rainy days
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I just don't get why anyone with a working phone should exchange it with e.g. a Samsung one. HOX is such a great phone, imho
My Samsung experience started with the Omnia II, which was -to say the least- such a crap that I was really quite "happy" when my girlfriend dropped it after I got it 3 Month. I instantly bought the Galaxy S, sold the Omnia II when it was repaired. Was using the Galaxy S for 2 years now and honestly... touchwiz und stuff is kind of kindergarden shti compared to Sense, it was a solid phone, no doubt, but compared to my new HOX, its quality was kind of kindergarden, too.
I still think the Galaxy S is a quite good phone and I was happy with it. There were little drawbacks I could ignore all the time. BUT ONLY if you pull on Cyanogenmod or at least some other custom rom. Stock firmware was always terribly unresponsive, laggy, buggy and stuff... Sure one can't compare the pure hardware specs because just everything in the HOX is just plain 'better', except maybe soundchips, because Galaxy S had a quite impressive Wolffson soundchip
And whats it about with "overheating"? The Galaxy got hot when you played some games with crap graphics, battery dropped out very fast, especially after a year of use. Now with the HOX I'm playing games with very impressive graphics on 4+1 cores, and the phone doesn't get very hotter then my Galaxy S, plus the battery lasts longer then I'm willing to play ^^ PLUS I don't have to wait an eternity till the phone is responsive again after quitting the game...
So after over 2 years of Samsung, I would recommend the HOX to everyone (except you're really a Samsung "fanboy" ). Even though I was one of the folks who had to get it replaced through warrenty first...
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Galaxy s and omnia? You should have used either the gs2, note or galaxy nexus before passing comments on Samsung.
Anyway to the op...one x is a great phone and I bet the gs3 will be a great phone as well. It's what you want now as there are always new android phones releasing all the time. And for problems you will see similar problems will be posted when gs3 is released. Just visit any device forum it's full of problems (battery issue, screen issue, camera issue).
So bottom line just get the device you like and be done with it.
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Galaxy s and omnia? You should have used either the gs2, note or galaxy nexus before passing comments on Samsung.
Anyway to the op...one x is a great phone and I bet the gs3 will be a great phone as well. It's what you want now as there are always new android phones releasing all the time. And for problems you will see similar problems will be posted when gs3 is released. Just visit any device forum it's full of problems (battery issue, screen issue, camera issue).
So bottom line just get the device you like and be done with it.
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Yea, should have written "after 3 month omnia2 and two years of Galaxy S" (but touchwiz is still almost the same on all of the latest Samsungs ).
And for the GS i still think it's a great phone (especial with cm9 kang/nightly), and I'm sure latest Samsungs are too, but all I was trying to say is: IMHO HOX is the better phone for me and I would recommend it
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If you can live with the UI go for the Samsung as you seem to like them!