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After buying a W100 Wired Remote, I found that it only works with Windows Media Player (which in my personal and humil opinion sucks!). Unless you 'lock' all buttons, any press you make will open WMP (even if you're already running any other player),.... and if you lock them, well, you won't even be able to answer a call... and of course, if you're ok with no buttons... what did you want this adapter for????
I asked HTC for support, and how to configure it with other players, etc.. and this is the answer (after asking three times and two weeks after my last 'request')...
Thank you for contacting HTC Europe.
The "HTC Touch W100 Wired Remote" it's an accessory obviously made by HTC, having mind to serve our products.
Now, our mobile phones are supplied with windows mobile manufactured software and the only media program supplied with it it's the well known "Windows Media Player" in mobile format.
We don't supply other media software on our products and so we don't manufacture accessories for other 3rd party software manufactures.
Should you have any other query, please do not hesitate to call us. Your local number can be found at: http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
Kind Regards,
Pedro Santos
HTC Data Support Engineer
[email protected]
www.htc.com
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I don't think that's a reasonable answer so beware if you're thinking of getting one of these!
Prof.
P.S. Oh, I forgot to say, if you install HTC AudioManager, it will control AudioManager (and open AM, and everything instead of WMP). It's just that AudioManager has the same drawbacks as WMP, with 'pseudo-intelligent' media lists, etc.... AND THEY DON'T EVEN CONSIDER THAT IN THEIR ANSWER!!!!
The W100 Wired Remote also works with the FM Radio !!
Any solution?
I use Conduits Pocket Player v3.2 and it has plugin Conduits WMP Plugin Adapter 2.0
This plugin enables Pocket Player to 'host' plugins that are originally designed for Windows Media Player 10 for Windows Mobile. Many plugins simply control playback, such as the Bluetooth A2DP/AVRCP plugin on WM5 devices. Other times, more features and controls are utilized, such as the plugin for Microsoft Voice Command.
Sound good but not working... maybe next version...
Too Late
I allready got one...
You R Right!
It Sucks!!!!!!!
grtz,
Pfeffa-rah
If anyone's sick of it and want to get rid of it, let me know. I think it might be possible to map in wider support and customisation of the functions if I can see how it works.
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Hi, i have HTC P3300 PDAViet BB v4.0 and recently buy from expansys W100 Wired Remote.
Automatically works in this rom with Audiomanager without install any specific driver, works perfectly, play button launch audiomanager, all butons are ok, holding next/prev you scan song, single click go to next or prev, if launch radio, buttons only work on radio, if anyone calling me when listen music (mp3) volume fade off and listen ring tone, button mute works ok.
repeat, i dont need install driver in this rom, works directly.
Bakterio said:
After buying a W100 Wired Remote, I found that it only works with Windows Media Player (which in my personal and humil opinion sucks!). Unless you 'lock' all buttons, any press you make will open WMP (even if you're already running any other player),.... and if you lock them, well, you won't even be able to answer a call... and of course, if you're ok with no buttons... what did you want this adapter for????
I asked HTC for support, and how to configure it with other players, etc.. and this is the answer (after asking three times and two weeks after my last 'request')...
I don't think that's a reasonable answer so beware if you're thinking of getting one of these!
Prof.
P.S. Oh, I forgot to say, if you install HTC AudioManager, it will control AudioManager (and open AM, and everything instead of WMP). It's just that AudioManager has the same drawbacks as WMP, with 'pseudo-intelligent' media lists, etc.... AND THEY DON'T EVEN CONSIDER THAT IN THEIR ANSWER!!!!
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HI I don't have the w100 but I'm interested to buy a 3.5mm adapter so.. do have you try the Htc audio manager (the installable .cab) with the registry patch on this link?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=318459
with the registry patched the Htc audio manager is my default mp3 player.
Yeah I was pretty pissed too. Was eager to try w100+ Conduits Pocket Player and it doesn't work - who uses windows media player anyway? The only hope is some kind of patch from conduits :\
Wish I'd found this topic before I bought one of these. Didn't realize you couldn't use the buttons with CorePlayer, Conduits PocketPlayer, or Resco Radio. If you don't clip that controller onto your collar or something, it eventually weighs on the headphones and pulls them out of your ears. Once clipped on, you really look like a dork
Seemed like a good idea, just not well implemented. As-is, it's a waste of money...
Guys heads up!!! Things have MOVED forwards!!
I just tried Pocket Player 4.0. I think it's the most recent version. All the buttons are working without any problem. So, in the end, there is a cool player supporting the hot 7-buttons handsfree ;-) And it's working on a HTC Diamond. So, I guess, we can mark this topic as *SOLVED* ;-)
So - have fun !!! AND BUY THE HANDSFREE!!! It is COOOOOL !!!
darkman088 said:
Guys heads up!!! Things have MOVED forwards!!
I just tried Pocket Player 4.0. I think it's the most recent version. All the buttons are working without any problem. So, in the end, there is a cool player supporting the hot 7-buttons handsfree ;-) And it's working on a HTC Diamond. So, I guess, we can mark this topic as *SOLVED* ;-)
So - have fun !!! AND BUY THE HANDSFREE!!! It is COOOOOL !!!
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Hi Im trying the pocket player 4 but my w100 dont work (still open WMP) how do you make it work? do you install any plug in?
Hi, I'm also keen to find out a little about the ROM and software you're running... My TyTn II (with Pocket Player 4) insists on controlling HTC Audio Manager.
So - firstly, what is on the ROM in terms of music players? WMP obviously, but do you have HTC Audio Manager installed as well? And did you tweak any settings in PP4 or did it just work out of the box?
I'm liking the W100 but not with HTC/Microsoft media players... any advice appreciated!
Any news?
Are you still using your w100?
this is an old thread but still not soved.
Mine was working fine at least with HTC Audio manager with my Fuze, with sevaral different roms as long as I didn´t use second today or something like that, wich will deactivate HTC audio manager and works only with WMP.
Now i have a CDMA/GSM Rhodium from Verizon with the newest Energy ROM wich is great by the was. But I can not make it work with my w100, it is only controling WMP.
Any news???
I notice the audio booster works fine for music player but not at all for FM radio.
Anybody got any ideas? I tried installing SRS WOW HD but got no sound at all - even with the registry tweak reported in the Diamond forum I could get sound by editing the registry but then SRS could not be activated.
Gee - thanks guys
Hi
Im looking for a audio player which has the best audio quality- please suggest something!!
I basically need an audio player which plays mp3 has a lot of functions(EQ, bass boost etc.) and has the best audio quality!!!
I need it because I have a "kicka**" sound system from "Magnat" at home and I want to reach its full potential, of more than 2000 wats from my Touch HD & my phone is being used as a media center in a lot of parties, cuz I have the biggest music libary on my phone!!!!!!
the inbuilt music player in tf3d is good. it has an equaliser but no volume control if you choose to use it, but then you could control the volume which your music system.
the inbuilt music player is ****.
try pocketplayer or mortplayer. these are really professional players.
but dont expect huge differences in sound output, they will be the same. it depends on what you set in the equalizers..
have you tried lcg jukebox .... !!! try it
There is Phantasm Music Player (40iPlay), but it is hard to buy it because of the paranoid policy of its author.
Using 3rd party players you cannot use remote controls on headsets (for example I'm using Nokia BH-503 with my HD). Am I right?
External controls seems fine... so far
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Using 3rd party players you cannot use remote controls on headsets (for example I'm using Nokia BH-503 with my HD). Am I right?
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Not true really, as I use Nitrogen (audio/music player) and it works fine with both my SE MBW-150 and HBH220 Bluetooth adapter. Both needing a little messing with, but allows me to choose next track, pause and play.
I'd would prefer not to use an additional music player, because it always needs messing around with to get fully working with all these random toys, but the inbuilt music player, including WM6.5 media player all suck and no easy to just select a folder and play all at random, which is all I want ever really.
(any suggestions would be nice to know)
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Using 3rd party players you cannot use remote controls on headsets (for example I'm using Nokia BH-503 with my HD). Am I right?
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PocketPlayer works with bluetooth control (A2DP) since version 3.71.
Mortplayer does not support it thanks to new Manila.
Blame HTC, they introduced some fu**ing "tweak" so that only the manila Player has access to the bluetooth control. Pocketplayer can do it because they reverse engineered the problem.
Just loosing your time
Sorry but you are just loosing your time...
I have spent some time trying to find a solution and I am back to my Ipod to drive my Home sound system (Magnat by the way ).
Your problem has nothing to do with the Software you will use but is has to do with the hardware limitations of these little WM device.
The best sound system will always require the best source as poor dynamic range, frequency response or noise level are hidden by poor sound systems but amplified by top quality ones.
Not convinced?
Just have a look, what you will read will confirm what you hear !
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_hd-review-300p6.php
Maybe one day we will have a real all-in-one device. But not today !
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Using 3rd party players you cannot use remote controls on headsets (for example I'm using Nokia BH-503 with my HD). Am I right?
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I also have bh-503 -- it worked with my old ipaq 1940 with all players - so it has to be manila bug, but I havent noticed it!!!
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Sorry but you are just loosing your time...
I have spent some time trying to find a solution and I am back to my Ipod to drive my Home sound system (Magnat by the way ).
Your problem has nothing to do with the Software you will use but is has to do with the hardware limitations of these little WM device.
The best sound system will always require the best source as poor dynamic range, frequency response or noise level are hidden by poor sound systems but amplified by top quality ones.
Not convinced?
Just have a look, what you will read will confirm what you hear !
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_hd-review-300p6.php
Maybe one day we will have a real all-in-one device. But not today !
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Before the HD I had Nokia 5610, with the "dedicated sound chip" , I can hear a big differnece beetween the two-- HD - louder & more bass
so the HD is already an improvement!!!
But still some bad things can be covered with good software and sound system!!!!
BTW-- Magnat - ROCKS!!!! 800W subwoofer & some more speakers with more than 2000 wats of power can bring your whole house down!!!!!
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Hi, the HD doesnt have great sound quality full stop i am afraid, I would say dont worry too much about which player, find one that you find comfortable to use, some are too complex non finger friendly menus for instance. All players have decent Eq's and so you should be able to get the best out of the HD with any player.
hope this helps.
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I'd would prefer not to use an additional music player, because it always needs messing around with to get fully working with all these random toys, but the inbuilt music player, including WM6.5 media player all suck and no easy to just select a folder and play all at random, which is all I want ever really.
(any suggestions would be nice to know)
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You can do this with Core Player if you disable scan card at start up option and select anything from your storage card rather than from a library. Sound quality better than my Ipod IMO. It has a preamp option.
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the inbuilt music player is ****.
try pocketplayer or mortplayer. these are really professional players.
but dont expect huge differences in sound output, they will be the same. it depends on what you set in the equalizers..
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mortplayer is ****tttt and very complicated to use and too slow with hd and has issues with uninstalling and pocket player is slow on HD as well stick to media player and htc touch flo included player they do the job and hell yaaaa there will be no difference in the sound output so why a third party and ram issues stick to original with this and if you are looking for a light player easy to use try s2p iplayer it looks good and it works great but i did uninstall it and i do use htc included player better than anything.
Pure and simple
@custardo01 - Thanks! I actually use Core player already, but mainly for video playback only, as I the GUi so unfriendly... it's an ugly package, but I guess it works well. However Nitrogen feels most friendly to me right now and easy to use when cycling on the London roads.
In regards to the sound quality, I actually think the quality of the HTC Touch HD is pretty dam good. I've tried various portable toys from dedicated portable audio players, mobile phone and those nasty Apple products, but so far it's not bad at all.
For sure it not ground breaking and would prefer the audio quality that the Sony Ericsson P and X series have, but with good pairing via earphones with low ohm requirements, it's close to lowless quality.
Of course ALL of this is pointless if you simply are only listening to Radio signals, standard Mp3 or basic AAC files. I do a huge amount of audio work, both musically, soundtrack and folly so mainly use wav and any other random stuff is always 320kbps Mp3's ...until I can get Mp3HD to work etc
AAC is pretty good when pushed to the maximum, but I'm to lazy to change back to AAC files after years or being on Mp3's, OGG and mainly multi-channel DTS & DD via WAV.
Any EQ system on almost ANY software is always a BAD thing!
Hardware EQ'ing is another thing altogether and even then is still a bad thing (usually). If it sounds bad, it always will do and using an EQ to improve it, I guess I'm just that type of person that disagree's with EQ'ing because you loose what it really was meant to be and not what it is anymore.
IMO: Audio & Visual should be played pure, flat and as is it was created.
Better music player... anyone?
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mortplayer is sh... ...htc included player better than anything.
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All probably very true, but when your using WM6.5 and not TF3D anymore, you need a good player once again, because of course the WMP is NOT an option.
I'd recommended Nitrogen any day, but still looking for somethin better, nicer and possibly simplier. I liked the TF3D audio player when I was using the basic ROM and Dutty's amazing ROM's but since I've moved over to WM6.5 not much choice... right?
Is their a way to access the TF3D via WM6.5 without actually having the TF3D today page open too?
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@custardo01 - Thanks! I actually use Core player already, but mainly for video playback only, as I the GUi so unfriendly... it's an ugly package, but I guess it works well. However Nitrogen feels most friendly to me right now and easy to use when cycling on the London roads.
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It is not ugly if you use a skin to cover it up. Search for the DiamondVGA Core Player skin. I have it here if you need it. Forget bluetooth you miss out on so much quality IMO. You will see me on a Black Ridgeback in the London streets with the stock wired headphones in - bald bloke with glasses
I want to ride my bicycle... with my HTC Touch HD blasting TooNz!
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It is not ugly if you use a skin to cover it up. Search for the DiamondVGA Core Player skin. I have it here if you need it. Forget bluetooth you miss out on so much quality IMO. You will see me on a Black Ridgeback in the London streets with the stock wired headphones in - bald bloke with glasses
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LMAO ...I'm on Ridgeback MX4 (modded) travelling from East London to where ever I need be for post-production editing work etc.
Yeah, I gave up on SE Bluetooth adapter when I got my HTC Touch HD as the quality just wasn't right at all and as you say, wired in is still best. I'm currently using Denon AHC551's earphones until they get worn out and need replacing (soon).
I only really use the adapter for random things and I think the Mrs gets more use out of it now when she's out jogging. She's using my old SE P1 and Bluetooth ADP2 seems to sound so much better through them... strange!?
Would the DiamondVGA skin you are suggesting work OK on a HTC Touch HD?
I use S2P Best audio player IMHO. Combined with HTC Audio Booster or SRS WOW Audio of course.
I have got TF3D player, WMP, coreplayer, S2P, pocket player and nitrogen.
To be honest:
Coreplayer is the worst.
Nitrogen is the best, closest to the ordinary MP3 player, but it is not so user friendly as the playlist is not so good.
Pocket player has a lot of eq. setting, but it does not help much.
One important thing is to reduce the stutter and it can be cured by 1.57 HKG ROM or the patch from Diamond. But Diamond patch may drain your battery in a horrible rate, you should better upgrade your ROM.
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Would the DiamondVGA skin you are suggesting work OK on a HTC Touch HD?
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Yes it does
I have tried several versions of Coreplayer (1.25, 1.3) and I still cannot get it to enable the AVRCP profile. in 1.25 is just doesn't check, and in 1.3 it crashes the program. I have hardrest before installing each just to see.
If I cannot get that to work, is there a way to turn down Bluetooth volume? My Jabra Halo have a high starting volume, and S2P or WMP are too loud and the volume controls don't seem to work
Thanks for the help in advance, I really appreciate all the work you devs do!
I switched to PocketPlayer due to this, latest version of it works fine with A2DP controls from headset. I don't think CorePlayer has a version that would work correctly by default.
Yes, I've noticed it too and mentioned it in "I Got Mine" thread. AADP works flawlessly even without tweaks, but no AVRCP in Coreplayer (whatever version and settings i've made).
For the moment I have to use TF3D Audio Manager to play music through my SE HBH DS-980. Although quality (sound fidelity) is quite behind compared to Coreplayer. What a shame.
Gotta find Widcomm Stack hack (TP2 has this BT stack, previous version of Touch series has Microsoft Stack) to work on Coreplayer. Or, wait for coreplayer to release patch/upgrade for their player to work the AVRCP on TP2.
I have the same problem. Did you find a widcomm stack hack ?
I'm very about htc to make AVRCP only working with HTC audio player. Not with other programs like PocketMusic or core player
Why HTC still allows AVRCP in this player even when it's desactivated in TFT3D menubar.
Here my mail to HTC :
Question :Hello, I have a Touch pro 2 and I have a problem : I can't use bluetooth AVCRP with touch flo 3D 2.5, but it working only with HTC audio manager in touch flo 3D. But i want to use other program with my stereo headset like pocketmusic (avcrp compatible verified) Please tell me what can I do Regards
Answer :
Thank you for contacting HTC Technical Support regarding your HTC Touch Pro2.
I would be happy to assist you.. HTC is unable to support third party programs on the device. It is recommend to contact the vendor of the third party applications if you are experiencing trouble. I cannot guarantee all third party applications will work properly with your HTC device. I can recommend checking our self-help user forum at www.htcwiki.com for more information regarding your inquiry. I apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced.
In addition, you can find a customer satisfaction survey at: http://survey.htc.com/worldwide/.
Thank You,
Stephanie
HTC Technical Support Team
I will reply AVRCP is in the list of the technical specification and I can't use It. Because if a standart like AVRCP become a closed API, and designed to work only with HTC apps, i see no difference beetween HTC and the iphone closed world.
Having been almost in some sort of heaven with this new tab the last days. However one big problem I just noticed when today bringing the device outdoors for music-listening: the audio quality is terrible.
Now tested with different flac's, 320 kbps MP3's and mp4-video's with sound from the internal speaker or connected to headphones (Sehnheisser and Philips), Technics amplifier, Logitech PC-speakers (two different types,one cheap other expensive). Sound quality is bad on all of them. Compared to my Galaxy phone it is like the difference between a Rols Royce and a Trawant car. Very unnatural metallic sound. And also very quickly (hardly extra bass and/or gain) distrorting. While bass of equalizer (different apps) and not too loud volume one speaker-side of my Sehnheiser headphone blew out..
Anyone else also not happy about audio-quality? Or is there a solution? And what is a good audio-manager for rooted stock Android 4.3? On my phone DSP-Manager for instance works perfectly, but that is not avaible for Nexus 7/2.
Thanks in advance,
Juul
I rooted my n7.2 2 days after getting it. But didn't get a chance to try out the audio quality until I flashed AwesomeBeats. With correct parameters for my satisfaction, the sound quality was awesome, more than my ol HTC Desire. So the suggestion is to flash an audio mod, and see to the parameters for better audio results. The best profile for internal speakers is higher treble, and low, or almost no bass.
I am a huge fan of sound, and have extensively customised all my audio devices, from my pc's internal speakers, to my home-made amplifier and woofer system. ViperFX seems better for my external speaker system, due a larger equalizer, while AwesomeBeats is better for my earphones(also my own)
Another suggestion is to tweak all audio parameters for the audio mod you flash.
try fauxsound app to make it LOUDER, i know it works good but it distorts the sound
or try that viper4 mod for headphone sound quality
The DAC is perfectly fine. The headphone amp has a very high output impedance (38 Ohm), so you may get frequency shifts with headphones. I have a Galaxy S i9000 with Voodoo sound and IMO, the difference between the DACs is very small (there is a big difference driving headphones directly).
You may have a mixer/equalizer setting somewhere that causes clipping and the metallic sound.
The Cyanogenmod based ROMs should come with DSP Manager. I'm fairly sure the CM10.2 nightlies include it; Slim Bean definitely does.
Thanks for reply's.
I have i9000 too and sometimes use DSP other times I activate Voodoo. With eather one, but also with both turned off the sound of the i9000 is very superior. On the Nexus I have only tried equalizer within music player apps and without. Also I read a lot more complaints about dissappointing audio quality of new Nexus around the web and also on some reviews and included discussions on major tech-sites.
I am plannimg on adding DSP to my rooted Nexus 7 Flo with original bootloader. Topic about adding DSP is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45638957#post45638957 . I also asked a question there concerning keeping OTA-functionality after adding DSP.
Same here, it just doesnt sound as good as my nexus 10 from samsung. Im using earphone audeo 323 something like that. But did u try with poweramp, works for me at least. This is making me less likely to listen to music lol. Getting nexus 5 to replace it for music.
I have tried a lot of music players, PowerAmp Trial included. Not any (or that big) difference in quality compared to different other music players as far I can remember. The user interface is great, but PowerAmp and almost very other music players lack one for me very important feature: samba (smb) support to stream music from my NAS/WDTV Live and Windows Shares.
Found only three musicplayers with very stable smb-stream support: Neutron (trial), XenoAmp and ArmAmp. All the only few other music players with smb were not good enough because of unstable stream or missing features such as lockscreen-support, etc. Neutron and especially XenoAmp are terrible to use concerning their user interface.
ArmAmp is not as fancy as some other music players, but it excels in user friendlyness. Has the for me major important features such as eq and lockscreen-support. And last but not least outstanding quality of smb-streaming from my NAS/WDTV Live. So I bought the ad remover from that app. It streams my music from my Google Drive also perfectly by the way.
(BS Player not so nice interface and misses lockscreen and equalizer (eq) but streams smb great also. Media Players of ES Explorer and Total Commander stream smb-shares also very good but are way too limited in options also).
But I have tried a lot of music players with only local play-support on my Nex7/2. Even too much to mention. They don't fix poor audio quality of device.
A reason to buy PowerAmp by the way might be if stock Android 4.3 had Cifs-support, so you can open all files of NAS/Windows Shares as if they were locally on Android device. Works great on my Galaxy S1 with Slim Bean 4.2.2. Google however broke support for Cifs in recent Android version(s). How I miss that...Looking forward to someone having a solution for that. It makes me even consider a custom rom while one of the major great things of the Nexus is the possibility of OTA-updates.