Hello, I have Diamond with WM 6.1, but there is a big problem with it. Program scrolling speed is TERRIBLE. I dont mean TF 3D (Manilla) I think normall Windows Program folder. Why am I writting it here to General? Becouse I heard that this is problem of every WM 6 device. But I dont know if this is right. There are two problems in fact. Somebody´s talking about slow PIE scrolling (and there is a fix on it) and somebody of slow Program folder scrolling. I mean second one. So, does any of your devices do it? But only WM6, on WM 5 and lower are (at least I read it) Programs scrooling normal. QVGA and VGA, display resolution is not the problem. Of course, Diamond is a VGA device, but this should not affect it too much. And other WM6 scrool folders are OK, like settings, they are fast enough. So, does anybody know what to do with it? Any known fix, tweak? I was searching for about five hours and nothing. I tried to bigger GLYPHCACHE, and nothing changed. Only one clue I found is that someone on Dell Axim x50v has very slow scrooling after upgrade from WM5 to WM6, but there was no solution, only that he fixed it by the file from XDA, bud I didnt find it.
please clarify what you mean by slow scrolling
try turning up the touchflo threshold using advanced config.
Yes, no problem. I mean, that if I click on start, then Programs, and i pick (mean click (I am not very good in english)) slider and move with him, it is very slow, I don´t know how to tell it english. I can compare it to game - it shows bad framerate, it is not slow in meaning of just speed, but in smoothnes of scrolling, it is like slideshow compared to scrolling smoothnes and speed in WM6 settings. It is not problem of VGA screen, that is sure. Touchflo has nothing to do with that I think, but I will try it.
No one has tha same problem? Only Diamond?
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Anybody can help me???
i`ve tried to install a cab Touch Flo on my hermes (Dopod 838Pro),but i`m confused...why it can`t work on hermes....anybody try before?
Sorry for my english
wow, shocking news.
how about search for the words "Touch flo doesn't work on Hermes"
August_Excalibur said:
Anybody can help me???
i`ve tried to install a cab Touch Flo on my hermes (Dopod 838Pro),but i`m confused...why it can`t work on hermes....anybody try before?
Sorry for my english
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Ok..*controlling myself* *wont flame you*
Welcome..
There are many threads similar like yours..
Try to use search..
and to get to your question, Why? because it just dont work.. It seems like hermes doesnt support TouchFlo but it supports ButtonFlo (if you ask me, buttonflo sucks!)
next time, use search
hehehe...have u try before???i`ve just do a hardreset since it doesn`t work.... sorry for my english...i know my english bad...ok...next time i`ll try to use search....thanks for ur suggestions...Bram87
Of course hermes can do the whole touchflow thing. We have a good touch screen that can record touch's, swipes drags etc.
The current problem is that the "touch" part of the current incarnation is made for a computer with a different type of screen. so just copying the files over doesnt work. it's like tyring to run a ATI tech demo on a Nvidea card. just cos both systems have XP, and have similar capable hardware, the calls from the software to the hardware are differnt.
However what I am really confused about is why anyone wants this nonsense on there ppc. Its basically a animated gif spawning over 3 screens. Its a shoddy gimik which has no true tie in to the workings of your ppc's apps.
Currenty problems regarding slowdowns system crashes etc is purly down to poor coding for this 1/2 baked interface.
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However what I am really confused about is why anyone wants this nonsense on there ppc. Its basically a animated gif spawning over 3 screens. Its a shoddy gimik which has no true tie in to the workings of your ppc's apps.
Currenty problems regarding slowdowns system crashes etc is purly down to poor coding for this 1/2 baked interface.
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Cos it's kinda like the iphone, innit!
August_Excalibur said:
Anybody can help me???
i`ve tried to install a cab Touch Flo on my hermes (Dopod 838Pro),but i`m confused...why it can`t work on hermes....anybody try before?
Sorry for my english
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I like this site more of late. With so many new people, it's good for at least a laugh or 2 per day
Ribdool said:
Of course hermes can do the whole touchflow thing. We have a good touch screen that can record touch's, swipes drags etc.
The current problem is that the "touch" part of the current incarnation is made for a computer with a different type of screen. so just copying the files over doesnt work. it's like tyring to run a ATI tech demo on a Nvidea card. just cos both systems have XP, and have similar capable hardware, the calls from the software to the hardware are differnt.
However what I am really confused about is why anyone wants this nonsense on there ppc. Its basically a animated gif spawning over 3 screens. Its a shoddy gimik which has no true tie in to the workings of your ppc's apps.
Currenty problems regarding slowdowns system crashes etc is purly down to poor coding for this 1/2 baked interface.
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The part that is nice is making the UI more finger-friendly as opposed to stylus-req'd. E.g. I most like the ability to scroll thru my contacts without having to hit the scroll bar on the right. being able to "drag" the screen is what I want.
Thus, I don't care about the TouchFLO as much as I do projects like the ContactManager prog that someone developed. I want the programs (browser, contact mgr, music playlists, etc.) to be done via finger dragging, than stylus-to-scrollbar...
Originally Posted by Ribdool
However what I am really confused about is why anyone wants this nonsense on there ppc. Its basically a animated gif spawning over 3 screens. Its a shoddy gimik which has no true tie in to the workings of your ppc's apps.
Currenty problems regarding slowdowns system crashes etc is purly down to poor coding for this 1/2 baked interface.
Cos it's kinda like the iphone, innit!
hahaha....that`s what i mean...
i like touch flo coz it`s the iphone...
uhhhh....anybody can make it work on hermes?
please....
jomo25 said:
The part that is nice is making the UI more finger-friendly as opposed to stylus-req'd. E.g. I most like the ability to scroll thru my contacts without having to hit the scroll bar on the right. being able to "drag" the screen is what I want.
Thus, I don't care about the TouchFLO as much as I do projects like the ContactManager prog that someone developed. I want the programs (browser, contact mgr, music playlists, etc.) to be done via finger dragging, than stylus-to-scrollbar...
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Which is the reason why the HTC Homeplug is so useful.
August_Excalibur said:
Anybody can help me???
i`ve tried to install a cab Touch Flo on my hermes (Dopod 838Pro),but i`m confused...why it can`t work on hermes....anybody try before?
Sorry for my english
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it works on the hermes you just gotta let your phone get enough sleep first cause its a tiring process
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Which is the reason why the HTC Homeplug is so useful.
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And I have that working, in color, no less. I'm wating for the 6th button so I can drop the audio manager today plug in and have it in the same HTC Home space.
Seriously has anyone here used a iphone.. this htc touch is nothing similar.
I can understand the desire to use the ppc without a stylus, however this does not allow it. It's not even a pretty front end.. jerky 8 frame black and white fixed animation which isnt adaptive to personal modifications, which currently runs like crap on a 400mhz system.. c'mon..
The nicest feature of the iphone is the media side. "touch flow" which the htc touch doesnt even attempt to do.
incase you havent seen the htc touch in action.. this is it... Amazing.. sigh..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9SEarIN7HM&mode=related&search=
As soon as you decide which of the 3 limited screens you desire back to the regualr wm5/6 screens.
If the htc touch included a special touch media player that scrolled through your images, music, videos, contacts, emails, sms's, games, had a decent dialer/text/email interface..etc.. maybe it would be comparable to the iphone.. not neciserially in design, just function.
Dont get me wrong I love my hermes. It's versatility is what makes it great, I wouldnt trade it for a iphone.. well maybe I would.. just to sell it and get another ppc & holiday.
Now we have good stable operating system, sure a few tweaks here and there are needed, that shall allways be the case.. we should all poll idea's to design a great interface, and not waste time over a useless 3 screen cross device hack that doesnt really work properly.
Its not a easy task, but there are a fair few creative and bright sparks in the xda devs community. Starting a fresh is the way togo.
A nice quick introduction to the differences between the interfaces.. plus funkeh music.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk3wGFuQjC4&mode=related&search=
jomo25 said:
The part that is nice is making the UI more finger-friendly as opposed to stylus-req'd. E.g. I most like the ability to scroll thru my contacts without having to hit the scroll bar on the right. being able to "drag" the screen is what I want.
Thus, I don't care about the TouchFLO as much as I do projects like the ContactManager prog that someone developed. I want the programs (browser, contact mgr, music playlists, etc.) to be done via finger dragging, than stylus-to-scrollbar...
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Everything you suggest can be achieved with buttons and scroll wheel - no stylus req'd.
Home plugin is a performance killer and unreliable.
KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid!
esseff said:
Everything you suggest can be achieved with buttons and scroll wheel - no stylus req'd.
Home plugin is a performance killer and unreliable.
KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid!
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*sigh* to each his/her own. using buttons and scroll wheel "get the job done" but note the same for me.
Stuck on splashscreen after Touchflo install
Hi experts,
I'm currently running WM6 Black Satin since a few days and I'm allready addicted to playing with all kind of stuff. I came across Touchflo and installed it. When I did a softreset, I couldn't get my Hermes device past the splashscreen. I removed my storage card and and did another reset: same result, stuck on splashscreen. I'm not really interested in getting Touchflo to work on my device, I was just curious. But now I just want to get my device working again. So what do I do? Any advice is welcome
Now we have good stable operating system, sure a few tweaks here and there are needed, that shall allways be the case.. we should all poll idea's to design a great interface, and not waste time over a useless 3 screen cross device hack that doesnt really work properly.
Its not a easy task, but there are a fair few creative and bright sparks in the xda devs community. Starting a fresh is the way togo.
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http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11402
This is a good idea for start, found over on Lakeridgesoftware's wrbsite (the people who make Wisbar)....
wisbar is the untimate interface modding tool for the pocketpc but this 'itask' shows the potential for a new xda-developers interface to be developed incorporating all the best ideas we have.....
Hi everybody
I have the main question - what are the main advantages of WM6.1 comparing to WM6.0.
Is WM6.1 worth enought for change if we says about so many mystakes in it?
Sorry fo my english.
Bigfoot
I'm interested too, and what about Battery usage & Speed (memory usage) ?
thanks
There´s quite a few threads with the same question and the answer is usually the same....Try the roms out.
To me is kind of rude when someone says"this one is better than that one" or stuff like that,because these rom cooks are using their time just for us and they don´t deserve those comparisons.....so like I said give different roms a shot and compare yourself.
bigfoot said:
Hi everybody
I have the main question - what are the main advantages of WM6.1 comparing to WM6.0.
Is WM6.1 worth enought for change if we says about so many mystakes in it?
Sorry fo my english.
Bigfoot
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WM 6.1. can be managed from System Center Mobile Device Center (see http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/mobile/default.mspx). Thta's a big advantage for the large compagnies
The bluetooth pairing doesn't need the password 0000 toggled in.
Memory & battery usage are still the same.
Going back to WM6
bigfoot said:
Hi everybody
I have the main question - what are the main advantages of WM6.1 comparing to WM6.0.
Is WM6.1 worth enought for change if we says about so many mystakes in it?
Sorry fo my english.
Bigfoot
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After many efforts to work with WM6.1 and with my apps I finally gave up: for the indevidual (and not companies) there still many bugs comparing to the stable WM6: annoying soft-reset, many apps are well integraded with WM6.1 etc.
Sorry, but I do not see how WM6.1 is better than WM6.
but are any of the roms real 6.1...or just lookie likey?????
i have been using PDAVIET 3.08.61.29WWE and it is excellent. I have many apps loaded and have not encountered a single problem. This rom is blazing fast and supports everything i have thrown at. 6.1 has been perfect for me i dont have any problems as i read. i literally install 1 to 2 apps per day and not a single issue. before this i was using FInixNOver WM6.1 and same thing not a single problem.
in fact, i was looking for WM6.1 because i wanted a new GUI ... but microsoft appears to be as same as always ... just sells us old **** that hadn't changed since Windows Mobile 2003 ... poorly unacceptable ... like microsoft ... like always ... i'm just fed up with theses poors OSs, i hope the iPhone2 will get out soon, i will sell my trinity as soon as i can and get this really GOOD device !
there will never be improvements on WM from microsoft for a long time, everyone will have to wait until at least 1 year before seeing the first devices coming with WM7, so i prefer going to a brand that do good human-machine interfaces, and the iPhone is doing really good !
why would we have to stay to WM ?! the iPhone do the Exchange Sync ... i just don't understand anymore microsoft ...
Question about pocket excell and word
I red somewhere that WM 6.1 pocket word and excell documents are in PC full format and for WM6.0 this format is only pocket. Is that true?
To Simkand
Hi
Iphone ? ha ha ha ha
It's so buggy and you need itunes to use it .......
If you want another interface, try ifonz or another one available here
I use now WM6.1 on 3 devices : a trinity, a blue angel and a smartphone : so far so good
And I am not a big fan of Bill !
iPhone
I bought two 8 Gig iPhones the first day they came out. One for myself, and one for my wife. The very next day, I returned mine (10% return charge).
My wife loves it because it's VERY simple to use, and you cannot mess things up easily. But for me, you have to HACK the PISS out of it to get it to do ANYTHING! It's network is dog slow, no MMS, no GPS, no SD slot, no programs to install, (untill I hacked it), it crashes more often than my WM6 devices, JOBS Locks it down every chance he gets, iTunes SUCKS and crashes Windows! I will admit, the screen and the multi-touch is impressive! It makes a GREAT iPod, but a usable communications tool, it's not.
Even with all the hacks on it, it still does not compare to WM6. WM has litterally thousands of software programs you can use freely for just about anything. I'm sure in time, the iPhone will get closer, but for now, not for me.
My biggest pet peeve was the fact that my appointments would not show up on the main screen when I first turn it on. That's something I insist on with my WM phone.
If you want a great TOY with a fantastic screen, then it's fine.
i think differences are only little.. part of it is the sms system. 6.1 transform sms system into some kind of a chat window. well this is quite good considering it is easier to read the history messages
simkard said:
in fact, i was looking for WM6.1 because i wanted a new GUI ...
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Why not trying the new SPB Mobile Shell 2.0?
I am very happy with this.
I apologize for getting side tracked.
iPhone does have a great GUI, it's just locked down making it hard to modify, at least for now.
You are right, WM 6.1 GUI is basically the same. Thanks Bill!
WM 6.1 adds the threaded SMS as mentioned before. It IS slower, but I prefer this layout.
The task manager now shows a LOT more information including running processes, memory consumption, & CPU consumption.
I'm not having any of the problems reported by other users (ie: program incompatibilities, crashes, bluetooth, activesync, etc...), so it's MUCH quicker running on my phone.
Bluetooth is Much more reliable, and simple to hook up (0000 is automatic).
Browsing in File Explorer is Much Quicker.
It might just be me, but my speaker phone seems a bit louder.
Managed Programs as mentioned by Stingray66.
Wireless Lan seems to have less trouble for me. Stays connected without having to set it up constantly.
Just my experiences.
6.1 is perfect for my Trinity, RAM memory avalaible about 25 Mb, A2DP is perfect and direct, without password, multitasking in best way.-
I don´t like the easy touch interface, but in fact, with SPB pocket plus interface is working perfect and with your own custom interface.-
I can see youtube and flash videos, no problem with video and audio files and 100% compatible with Corecodec media player.-
In my own opinion is the best OS for my trinity.-
Thanks Landy.-
cecrops said:
i have been using PDAVIET 3.08.61.29WWE and it is excellent. I have many apps loaded and have not encountered a single problem. This rom is blazing fast and supports everything i have thrown at. 6.1 has been perfect for me i dont have any problems as i read. i literally install 1 to 2 apps per day and not a single issue. before this i was using FInixNOver WM6.1 and same thing not a single problem.
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I agree and .NET 3.5 can be added too. With the tool of Modaco (.NET Configuration) it's possible to switch between .NET versions and even configure the version for each application.
simkard said:
in fact, i was looking for WM6.1 because i wanted a new GUI ... but microsoft appears to be as same as always ... just sells us old **** that hadn't changed since Windows Mobile 2003 ... poorly unacceptable ... like microsoft ... like always ... i'm just fed up with theses poors OSs, i hope the iPhone2 will get out soon, i will sell my trinity as soon as i can and get this really GOOD device !
there will never be improvements on WM from microsoft for a long time, everyone will have to wait until at least 1 year before seeing the first devices coming with WM7, so i prefer going to a brand that do good human-machine interfaces, and the iPhone is doing really good !
why would we have to stay to WM ?! the iPhone do the Exchange Sync ... i just don't understand anymore microsoft ...
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Microsoft Mobile NOOB, too much alcohol or just talking bull****?
Ignore this guy ....
bigfoot said:
I red somewhere that WM 6.1 pocket word and excell documents are in PC full format and for WM6.0 this format is only pocket. Is that true?
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No, WM6 can have integrated Office 6.1 too.
mbon said:
i think differences are only little.. part of it is the sms system. 6.1 transform sms system into some kind of a chat window. well this is quite good considering it is easier to read the history messages
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Yep, threaded SMS ... another advantage of WM 6.1
Hi.
What are you all talking about. There is no official WM6.1 for Trinity, all this ROM - is home made. This is just vinaigrette, mess of different ROM, as well as WM6.
I've got a couple questions about TouchFLO 3d on the TP2:
1) Is there a reg hack that I can set so that when I tap on an SMS message in the SMS that it takes me straight to the default WinMo SMS app rather than the TouchFLO version?
2) Is there a way to switch the default browser to Opera when I click on internet on the internet tab?
Here is a link for a cab for opera as default:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550647
I am sure the sms hack is floating around here some where. try searching for it.
thanks I appreciate that.
Original TouchFlo UI?
When I bought my first Diamond it used to have a different TF interface, where when sliding from one panel to another the whole screen would slide. It was slow and the experience was not good, but the visuals were stunning.
Later HTC launched a ROM upgrade that made the whole phone faster but at the expense of making TF simpler, basically removing the whole screen slide effect.
Now that we have accelerated video drivers for the ATI chipset I wonder if there's a way to re enable that behavior. It would be fantastic to have the great effects back.
Hi All
I have an unbranded SEA TP2 and am 'still' waiting for the official 6.5 upgrade from HTC.
If you have yours already i wondered if:
1. The Keyboard light issue has been fixed...?
The bugger doesn't seem to stay on when typing on the 6.1 standard.
2. Anyone tried SRS WOW on this new version...?
The 6.1 release ran it OK, but the phone eventually went into a non-wake up state so it proved to be useless.
3. There is less memory used to run the phone...?
6.1 seemed to use a hell of a lot of RAM after a while - i disabled push internet and this helped a lot.
4. Touch use in Landscape mode is better....?
With 6.1, it was often hard to trigger an event off say Opera in LM, finding the trigger hotspot was a little off on some of the buttons in various apps...
5. Is the Music Tab any better.....?
6.1 is all but useless for me. It was slow and oddly picked a single piece of cover art and used that for all songs. Interestingly, Nitrogen used the same songs, but applied the correct art to each song.
6. Is the Zoom Bar better or is there a 'magnifier' built in to the new OS..?
On my 6.1 the zoom bar is not too responsive and seemed really under utilised. I did see a built-in magnifier app on a video somewhere and hoped it might be included on 6.5 and the updated Manilla.
If anyone can shed some light, that would be really great.
In the interim, I wait for the update......
Cheers to all
Jabberoo
After I upgrade to the new 6.5 Rom with T-mobile.. I found something odd. Certain programs I was able to move the pages up and down by flick scroll the screen. But now every time I tried to do that, it highlights the text instead.. The only way i can move the page is use the scroll bar on the right. Any body know how to change the setting or registry for this? Thanks
If your original rom was 6.1, you were using HTC's touchflo scrolling, but with 6.5 you're using Microsoft's built in flick scrolling. Ironically, the Microsoft scrolling seems to have problems with some .NET programs (you'd think those would work the best since it's MS). I don't know of any fix other than switching back to the HTC touchflo but that's not as fluid so I just put up with the few apps that don't work with the MS version.
Yeah my original rom was official T-mobile 6.1 . I just upgrade to 6.5 rom with this problem.. It is kind of silly Microsoft scrolling was worse than touch flo one.. I guess I will just ignore this since there is no fix for it . Thank you.
hocapoca said:
Yeah my original rom was official T-mobile 6.1 . I just upgrade to 6.5 rom with this problem.. It is kind of silly Microsoft scrolling was worse than touch flo one.. I guess I will just ignore this since there is no fix for it . Thank you.
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Hi All
Actually there is, but it is a bit of a PITA.
Go here:
http://www.ftouchsl.com/
This proggy enables scrolling in virtually anything. I had an issue with a simple 'Note' file, you would think that it would scroll natively, but no.
I use this proggy to enable it. One caveat, it dicks with other apps that are OK, so you need to exclude those from the prog as exceptions - this is a drag, but once you have a list, you can export it and re-import it if you need to hard reset.
It isn't perfect, but i have looked for a simpler solution with no luck. Silly thing is, that Word will scroll, but bloody Notes will not - stupid.
Anyway, i hope that helps you...
Cheers
Jabberoo