Hi there ,
Well I just purchased a Diamond from a little shop down here in New Zealand . The problems started when I tried to register it on the HTC web site and found I had to go to the hong kong site to get my SN working .. I think that means I got a Parell imported version? Which is mostly cool since this phone hasnt offically been released in NZ .. BUT
I find the interface very laggy, which led me to here . Now I have tried all the tweaks in the tweak section and that has helped a tiny bit , but I think the real answer is going to involve me diving into ROM land . Now here is where I ask for forgiveness in advance, as possibly this info exists elswhere, but I just need a few questions answered before I risk hosing my new toy .
1. what sort of info do I need to know before applying a new ROM? i.e current ROM revision in my phone ,radio ect .. and more importantly how do I determine the ROM or ROMS that are currently in my phone , can i get an exact copy from somewhere
I am not too sure if Changing the rom would do anything to the radio , in fact I dont really 100% get the concept about rom updates vs Radio Rom updadtes .. does the diamond have separate roms for radio ?
So do I need a specfic rom for my region ?
Basicly I want to see if a new rom would help me in terms of the performance of the phone , but dont want to risk loosing anything in terms of radio or telephone calls .
its a good idea to backup your current ROM.. you can search the forums for how to do a ROM dump or look in the wiki.. or you may find that the current ROM on your device is already posted by someone here in the forums.
Flashing the current ROMs released here doesn't update your radio (unless its some official ROM containing a radio in the package). ROM is the operating system, etc.. Radio is the thing controlling radio functions (gsm, wifi, gps, etc). New radio ROM can possibly give better connectivity, battery life, etc.
follow the guide at www.modmydiamond.info for step by step flashing instructions.
hey there and thanks for being kind ,
I guess my worry is that somehow flashing it will prevent things like the FM RADIO program from working , or maybee make it impossible to connect to my phone company or something like that .. Sorry I am really new to this and dont mean to be a pain ..
at this point, i highly doubt that as the ROMs are still quite heavily based on the official ROMs that have come out.. anyway, you could always flash it back but if you're really scared about the consequences, then ROM flashing might not be for you..
nah, I am not THAT worried ha ha , i used to be really scared of the boogieman tho , in the end i looked under my bed at midnight and never worried after that. Going to follow this rteally awesome guide and let you know how I get on
yep all flashed and happy .. next question . is there a way to add all my apps tomtom ect and then somehow dump a ROM including all twaeaks I have made ?
i think you could dump it, but when you flash a different ROM, you can't restore just the tweaks and stuff that way.
do a search in this site for "SASHIMI" it will auto load cabs, and reg files and stuff.. it'll take you a little while to get all your reg files together (i'm doing it now.. zzz.. long overdue) but after that it'll be a snap to flash ROMs and get back up and running.
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I think it is important that all people testing this rom have the best radio suited to it.
This would eliminate some of the connection issues people are clogging the forum with. Several reported user issues have been due to them using old RADIO versions that don't work well with WM6.
We need to bug fix the ROM, connection problems are more likely to be RADIO related than ROM related.
Kyphur has asked me to start a poll asking:
SHOULD THE BEST WORKING RADIO BE BUNDLED WITH THE NEXT XDA LIVE RELEASE? v0.30
What do you think?
Dumb question, but is there any "easy" way to downgrade the radio if the device needs to be sent in for warranty?
I still say no, thw whole point behind cooking ROMs is customisation, the only thing Kyphur will have to concentrate on is the OS making it better than if he had to work on radio aswell, also what happens to use people who have a new version of the radio (1.35.00.11 for example) do we have to downgrade?!
Any radio problems can be narrowed down to just the individual radio versions and not blamed on Kyphur aswell!?
I say we mix and match our OS/ExtROM/Radio etc... as we like and let Kyphur get on with developing this (already brilliant) ROM.
I think people should install the Radio ROM they prefer, not be forced into an update if it's not necessary.
Now, if we could just crack that ExtROM...
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I still say no, thw whole point behind cooking ROMs is customisation, the only thing Kyphur will have to concentrate on is the OS making it better than if he had to work on radio aswell, also what happens to use people who have a new version of the radio (1.35.00.11 for example) do we have to downgrade?!
Any radio problems can be narrowed down to just the individual radio versions and not blamed on Kyphur aswell!?
I say we mix and match our OS/ExtROM/Radio etc... as we like and let Kyphur get on with developing this (already brilliant) ROM.
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Fair points!
How about just a RADIO recommendation from Kyphur then? You're right, lets not add extra workload, just make a suggestion as to which radio instead?
Users can then make their own minds up as you suggest.
Squuiid said:
Fair points!
How about just a RADIO recommendation from Kyphur then? You're right, lets not add extra workload, just make a suggestion as to which radio instead?
Users can then make their own minds up as you suggest.
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A radio recommendation would be a good idea, like at the moment I gather from numerous posts radio 1.27 and hihger would be the preferred to use.
(P.s: sorry I read my last post, looked kinda forcefull)
(not a noob but not an expert :s)
what is the best radio to use tho? hehe
if i go to the wiki page download the 1.35.00.11 Download note: GPS Enabled!
run it
(same installer as for the rom)
and i go for it?
will it change anything to the current config?
thx a Lot
Kartboy said:
(not a noob but not an expert :s)
what is the best radio to use tho? hehe
if i go to the wiki page download the 1.35.00.11 Download note: GPS Enabled!
run it
(same installer as for the rom)
and i go for it?
will it change anything to the current config?
thx a Lot
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Test a few and find which one works best for you... It's amazing how little people are willing to experiment.
(I guess I was asking a lot of questions regarding ROM building, but that's something that could seriously screw a phone if you're not careful and I can't afford another Hermes right now!)
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A radio recommendation would be a good idea, like at the moment I gather from numerous posts radio 1.27 and hihger would be the preferred to use.
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I agree. Just recommend a min version and leave the ROM with OS only.
I can think of 2 more reasons for not bundling the radio, further to what has been said above:
1) you avoid making the upgrade process process longer and
2)if people have a preference for a particular radio (different than what is bundled), they would need to reflash their radio every time they upgrade the ROM from 0.3 to 0.4 and to 0.5, ...,etc.
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richy240 said:
Test a few and find which one works best for you... It's amazing how little people are willing to experiment.
(I guess I was asking a lot of questions regarding ROM building, but that's something that could seriously screw a phone if you're not careful and I can't afford another Hermes right now!)
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Why experiment when u got all this knowledge grouped in a forum,
not knowing if u might brick ur phone or not
IMHO radio should not be included with xda-live distribution. If flash fails while flashing OS or splash screens, nothing happens to the device, but if flash fails when flashing radio device is more dificult to unbrick.
I think the user should choose which radio he wants to have, and we do provide ways of upgrading only the radio.
An emphatic NO - don't include a radio.
1. One of the original ideas of this rom was to provide a stable OS with as few add-ons as possible.
2. This WIKI and forum encourages and helps us to learn about our phones, make informed judgements and customise to suit ourselves. OS, software, use, location etc are all user specific. What works for you doesn't work always for me.
3. There is already a suggestion of US and Rest of World roms to fix localised problems (PTT vs video). Does Kyphur then have to release these versions with & without his (our) chosen radio? Do each of these 4 roms also have to be released with & without Adobe? (now 8 roms)... etc, etc...
4. I travel all over the world with my job and I notice a good radio in UK doesn't work so well in China, Brazil, US etc. Which radio should I vote for? Or should we release the above rom versions with every available radio?
5. If we get Kyphur and the development team to embed a radio what's our next collective request?
6. Having everything done for me takes the fun out of having a Hermes - If I want to just wait for someone to solve my problem I might as well wait for Vodafone or HTC to release an update.
7. We already see loads of questions/complaints/comments about the few apps which are embedded in WMXL so the dev. team are now acting as tech support instead of developing more stuff for us to play with. If they get bored with this role they may stop - then who do we turn to for the next release of WMXL?
So, instead of including a radio I would prefer to see a WIKI which tells us how better to analyse the radio we have and maybe to compare the available radios for reception, data, country of use etc.
If Kyphur doesn't mind all the extra work and can release all the different versions then fine, but I'd rather let him work on a stable OS first.
Only my ideas, I'm sure others will disagree
Adding a Raido will add to the argument as to which is best? There are plenty of installs to do yourself. If you got the balls to do a ROM upgrade then download and install the Radio RUU of your choice before or after as you like.
I agree
Squuiid said:
Fair points!
How about just a RADIO recommendation from Kyphur then? You're right, lets not add extra workload, just make a suggestion as to which radio instead?
Users can then make their own minds up as you suggest.
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I agree, a list would be better, obviously if you are looking at GPS (here here)
you would need a different radio.
kudos to the gurus!
Because different Radio Roms work better in different regions of the world and even with different OS Roms.
That is a lesson learned the hard way from Wizard & AKU 3.x. Ironically T-Mobile NL 2.19 Radio never missed a call with AKU 3.x or WM6 but Cingular's 2.25 Radio was a dog in the Chicago area!
Personally, I would stay away from any of the Trinity GPS enabled Radio Roms (end in .x1) because they just add yet another element into the mix and the goal of this project is stable WM6 not GPS..
Kartboy said:
Why experiment when u got all this knowledge grouped in a forum,
not knowing if u might brick ur phone or not
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That will be BIG NO for me to include radio. As said in previous posts, there are various radios out there and depending on where you are will get different results. Recommending which radio worked well for you at your location with x version of ROM is the best thing in my mine.
I am currently using 1.27 and it seems to work well for me and I won't change until I see a reason to do so (e.g. feature, service, etc...). So I definitely would not want to be force into another radio (although I can just extract the OS and flash with TTY).
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Why experiment when u got all this knowledge grouped in a forum,
not knowing if u might brick ur phone or not
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We will not post a Radio ROM that is untested; at least I hope no XDA member would. So unless you screw it up it wont brick your device.
a wiki page is a better idea
I think that a sub page of the wiki special for the radio rom is the best solution...
Everybody can add their experience with any version of the radio rom...
A fool proof installer sounds a very very good idea for me!!
Is it possible to return to your original radio rom (or dump it) Radio rom 1.13??
Why dont you have the option for 0.3 with and without the radio rom. Before I put 0.1 on my hermes, I had 1.34 for my radio rom. I am going to attempt to get gps working soon, so before I upgarded to 0.1, I flashed my radio.
I think a lot of people that are holding out for a later version of WXML may be in the same problem that I had, that is, not having the latest radio rom.
Radios? We don't need no stinking radios! Sorry I couldn't resist...
Seriously, pof and the rest are right. Radio selection is highly variable based on location and carrier. Let the end user decide. Having said that, knowing the radios and locations/carriers that the ROM was tested in could be useful information.
Ninja1
I've been reading up on the cooked ROMs that people are using, and it seems that they are using an older version (1.48) instead of the released ROM from AT&T (1.54). Is there a reason for this?
The reason I ask is because i want/need a cooked ROM using the storage saver cab from tadzio.
I also like the looks of vp3G's WM6 v3.0 ROM, but it also uses the older ROM (1.40.30.00) instead of the AT&T version (1.54.07.00) I know this has to do with the radio and since I am using the 1.54 I have noticed a HUGE difference in signal gain... which is why I want to keep that.
So my question is, has anyone cooked up a ROM that uses the lates AT&T released version with vp3G's 3.0? And also, why do people use the older versions still?
There are many parts to a "ROM". The two parts you are probably talking about are the OS and the Radio. Most ROMs now are just OS ROMs - they don't change your Radio ROM. The best Radio is not necessarily the most recent one, so ROM cooks like to let people decide for themselves if they want to update their Radio or not.
Also, most unrecoverable bricks happen when flashing new Radio ROMs, so many people who don't have problems with reception or battery life (like me) don't bother to update their Radios.
If you want a certain OS with a certain Radio, you can use Dutty's Good NBH Tool. It is good. With that tool you can choose the OS, Radio, and other parts of your ROM before you flash it. Just download the OS you want, the Radio you want, use the tool to extract both and meld them together into a new ROM.
Happy flashing - and if you haven't already be sure to read Mr. Vanx's upgrade guide and flash Hard-SPL before you do anything else!
See, Im glad that I posted because I did not realize that there were two parts and that most ROMs nowadays are just opperating ROMs... so thats for that tidbit.
Alright, now I just have to go fishing for the OS that best fits me. I know that I want the storage/space saver and the updated BT and camera features. I also see that a lot of people are getting the WM6.1 so I'll have to check that out. Im going to have to spend a lot of time going throuh each and everyone.
Thanks again.
also, the os only roms WONT change your radio so you can find a rom you like that doesnt include the radio part of the rom and safely flash your os. you will keep whatever radio rom you currently have installed. so if you have the radio you like you can pick just about any cooked rom on this forum and still keep your updated radio (make sure its for the hermes though). happy upgrading. by the way, make sure you hard spl your phone 1st thing so if something does go wrong during flashing you migh recover it easier than if you dont. i suggest doing some reading 1st. cheers.
Just switch to alltel from verizon (MUCH CHEAPER) I find the screen and theme to be a little boring. Are there any updates I can use to make it look Amazing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
Amazing.
Use your imagination + all available software + custom graphics
I've tried CRiSTALv04 but I got 2 errors while it tried to update the rom to wm 6.1 something. I'm afraid that I'm going to brick my new phone so I stop. or there anything else that I can use beside flashing my rom.
Uhhhhh......
For someone who only wanted to change themes, you may want to slow down on the ROM flashing !
spawn1980 said:
I've tried CRiSTALv04 but I got 2 errors while it tried to update the rom to wm 6.1 something. I'm afraid that I'm going to brick my new phone so I stop. or there anything else that I can use beside flashing my rom.
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This might be a dumb question: was your phone unlocked properly? Custom ROM's are great. Try to find one with Manila 2D and you will think you bought something from Dumbledore's secret wizardry tools. Plus, most custom ROM's have much better graphics (clearer fonts, better application skins, etc.). None of the custom ROM's have things so customized you can't immediately continue normal use.
I use Dette's 2.3 and really enjoy it. Look for it on ppcgeeks.com in the Vogue->Vogue Upgrades forum.
UPDATE: I now use NFSFAN's Sprint 1.03 and it is by far the best custom ROM EVER.
SPAWN, did you ever get your problem solved? People who help you would like to know how things go.
Hi guys,
I love my Desire HD, I really do. Great phone. I get asked all the time what make it is... very nice owning it... BUT I hate Orange UK and their pesky interfering with the ROM. Some things just plain don't work.
So (and I have looked) there are lots of ROMs out there that I can Flash, but it's all very confusing to me.
What I need clear guidance on is:
1. Can I get a nice clean Genuine HTC Rom on it (with Sense)?
2. Will that give me OTA updates to Gingerbread or any future upgrades?
Sorry, but I seem to only find Mod guidance on here, but Im one of those people who like to put things back the way they were designed to be... (Im that sad...)
Ta for any help you can offer
redspecial2000 said:
Hi guys,
1. Can I get a nice clean Genuine HTC Rom on it (with Sense)?
2. Will that give me OTA updates to Gingerbread or any future upgrades?
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1. Yes, if you just want stock rom you can root your UK branded Rom (if its base 1.72 you have to downgrade first check this guide, thats what i used and there's also a link to a downgrade guide in it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964996) get S-OFF and install the official RUU (R om U pdate U tility) from 2.3.3. Or when you have root and S-OFF you can flash Clockworkmod recovery (the thing you need to flash any custom made stuff) and from there any custom rom you like. This is recommended because with it you can backup your current branded Rom in case you need to have it repaired and still want to be under warranty.
2. With official RUU you will get future OTA updates directly from HTC, but when you install 2.3.3 RUU you're already up do date. When you have a Custom Rom you will get updates from your rom Chef that you download over wifi/3g directly to your phone and flash it through Clockworkmod recovery
-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
This is stock rom with improvements. Look at the features list, it will convince you I'd say its the most popular custom rom and a good point to start.
btw Orange is the best provider in terms of Data plans in my country. You get most out of your money. But the branding and support is horrible They have absolutely no clue what their talking about. When i asked them if my DHD was branded when i bought it the sales assistant didnt even know what that is... She had to ask someone else first. If thats the same in UK you're on a good way with installing the Rom YOU want. You'll get support here from guys that do even better than the guys from HTC. Believe me.
I've only ever met one sales assistant who knew what I was talking about, I felt strangely attracted to her...
I've tried a few roms and settled on cm7 for now, best thing to do is junk the stock rom and get flashing, the improvements in battery life should be enough to convince you lol
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Thanks guys, this is really helpful....
The thing that tipped me over the edge was a trip to my local Orange Shop, where I went to get some answers as to why the Hot Spot feature wasn't working on the phone. I then had to spend 10 minutes explaining to the girl what the hotspot feature was, then DEMONSTRATE it to HER!
Orange guys must have been tinkering with the rom. Tethering and hotspot options worked out of the box for me but you better switch to a custom rom to get those features back and other goodies. Besides, it's funny .
Yep, like all the others recommended custom rom is the way forward. I was in your position before I started the flashing madness, I can promise you, you wouldn't regret it.. And we are so lucky to have such an active development section...
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Yep if you follow all the instructions it is nigh on impossible for anything to go wrong. Even if it does however, due to the active forums, you will get an answer in no time!
Don't do it, once you start you can't stop flashing save yourself and run away while you can
On a serious note, the battery life improvement and virtual 24hr help with this forum are good enough reasons on there own to do it, you won't regret it...
Ok Guys.... I'm gonna give you a laugh.
I've had my DHD since March (from Orange) and like all of you I am now not happy with (what you state is Stock ROM)
At the very tender age of 53yrs and now burnt our with computing and the like I rarely understand all the lingo/terms used Etc ;((
After calling on a phone 'expert' shop yesterday and was willing to shed cash if they could root & flash (presumably after de-branding) I saw the blank expression on their face.... "Nope... we don't know what your talking about"
Hmmm (I thought) So now I am determined to scare myself to death and ATTEMPT to get my phone to where it should be! But I am SOOoo lost on all the termanology used.
I am on 2.2.1
Kernal 2.6.32.21-g46445e7
Build 1.84.61.2
At the present time I am running on SPB 3D and have Laucher Pro installed as I was exerimenting with home page mods.
Still awaiting Ginger and can't see me getting it from Orange (UK) for any time yet. Phone does som curios things at times and seems to be getting buggy.
Phone calls drop, incomming second caller now boots me from my original call, icons vannish Etc.
Oh... Not keen on all this Facebook lark which the stock Orange thing has installed.
So.. ok, Not now happy with my DHD, but don't know where to start in geriatric terms.
Love this forum tho'
Hi
I am sending you a PM with a full guide and all the tools you require
The company I work for uses a horrible old product called Cognito.
We are developing an Android App to replace this but in the meanwhile we have a problem - within our budget we can only run this on Rhodium devices and with specific ROMS.
We have trouble getting decent Rhodiums and finding ones with the correct ROM is even harder. I now have a box of them with the wrong ROMs.
I have searched around for the specific ROMs we need but it seems that mos of the download links I can find have gone.
Even when I can find a ROM that seems to be OK, there always seem to be other issues.
I think the following ROMs should work (in theory):
- 1.86.401.4 (67102) WWE
- 1.14.161.6 (50207) WWE
I figure the next step would be to dump a working ROM and write that back to the other devices.
Can anyone tell me in simple steps how I can achieve this? I have started looking into ROM kitchens but it has far more detail than I think I need and I feel a bit swamped with it all.
Thanks
Update
I have managed to get the RAW files from a working device using this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501871
However, I cannot find any tools to put these back together. All the links seem to be dead
I know this is an old thread, but did you ever figure out how to dump the a rom from a working phone and restore it again?
I have a TP2 Rhodium 100 set up with WM6.5 just like it should be(with all the tweaks and apps), and I'm going to give it to family - But I don't really like to have to set it up again all over, so a way to make a rom dump and restore it would be really nice
Its now 2015 - there must be something (I have searched and all threads and post seem to be either dead or the links don't work or the programs are not available anymore).
JBJ