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M2000 accessories

Hi!
I was wondering exactly what comes with the Orange M2000 in the box - does it have the cradle, headset and leather case like the O2 XDA IIs?
Please let me know!!!

re: accessories
hi
just got this on Orange:
in the box:
2x stylus
2x Battery (wow!)
32MB SD memory card (blank??)
USB cradle
Mains charger
Companion CD (activesync etc)
A hefty book
Headphones (with call answer and mic)
and a basic leatherette belt clip carry case
I probably missed something, but the main stuff is there
Baz

damned.. i didn't get a memory card with mine.. luckily i have a 128mb card left from my digital camera ;-)
tobtan: in case you didn't know yet.. the crandle even holds charges the second battery while charging the device as well ...

2.5 mm audio jack.

Out of curiosity, why did HTC choose to use 2.5 mm audio jack, instad of the regular 3.5 mm ?
It is so hard to find a good quality earphone that uses 2.5 mm jack.
I recently purchased a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter, but it is a bit bulky and cumbersome.
Is there a way to 'pry out' the 2.5 jack and replace it with a regular 3.5 jack ?
Thanks.

Since you said "Pry out", I am sure that is possible.
I am also sure that it is possible to replace it with a std receptor as well, even if a small portion had to be extended out of the device.
If you were technically capable of doing this (no offense intended) I supposed you would have already done this, However I know of no one doing this.
Me personally, I just wished they would all stick to the same Freakin pinouts.... (HTC I, II, III), I mean common guys, do they have stock in headset devices or what????
Raptor

Me personally, I just wished they would all stick to the same Freakin pinouts.... (HTC I, II, III), I mean common guys, do they have stock in headset devices or what????
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I agree. Just like I don't understand why MS removed TCP/IP on the new ActiveSync V.4. Sometimes I wonder what goes throught these engineers' brains. I think they just get up one day and decide to **** customers over.
Back to the topic. What I did was buy a $40 headphones with 3.5mm connectors. I cut the connectors on both my original O2 earbuds and my shiny new 40 bucks earphones, then connected the 2.5mm connector from my earbud to the new earphones. Then used a shrink tube to hide the splices. Works like a charm.

nomadman said:
Back to the topic. What I did was buy a $40 headphones with 3.5mm connectors. I cut the connectors on both my original O2 earbuds and my shiny new 40 bucks earphones, then connected the 2.5mm connector from my earbud to the new earphones. Then used a shrink tube to hide the splices. Works like a charm.
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Ah, i wish i thought of that before purchasing a $12 converter (2.5" to 3.5") from an O2 authorized dealer.
Yes, $12.
And now I feel really dumb for doing that. Not only about the price, but the connector is simply too big/cumbersome.

Thinking about getting rid of

I am thinking about getting rid of my BlueAngel and keeping my Himalaya due to some reasons (not sure yet though). I am wondering how much do you think I can get for my XDA IIs, I would include a 1GB SD card, a 3.5mm to 2.5mm stero adapter retails @ $20 on expansys, it lets you plug any 3.5mm headset into your XDA IIs, I would also include the 1490mAh battery, and a new 2400mAh. I also upgraded it to the latest radio rom and rom, extended rom, etc. It's about 5 months old and in good condition, it has some minor screen scratches but there is a screen protector over it so you cannot see them at all. From other than a few minor scratches its perfect condition ;-)

i paid USD$530 for something "similar" - 4mth used 2s and the case
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38331&item=5813479455
factoring in depreciation, i guess you can try a similar price?

Benq E72 USB to 3.5mm audio adaptor

Hi Guys,
I have just got the fantastic little E72 and it is great in almost every way. I want to be able to use my Shure headset with it so I need the adaptor that everyone else wants to find it seems. I have a HTC adaptor but it will not fit into the socket. The socket on my E72 has 5 pin holes and both sides of the interface are curved. The HTC adaptor has one curved side and a straight side so it will not fit in. The E72 does use the usb connection for its headset and audio output but when I did find a Samsung adaptor with both sides curved that did fit into the phone socket it still outputted the music to the external speaker so I am at a loss. There are, therefore, different types of mini usb connectors. Can someone tell me the exact spec of this one fitted to the E72 and possibly where I might get an adaptor that will work??
Much appreciate the help with this.

usb cant be changed to 3.5mm or any type of audio
the reason the htc one dont work is the same reason it dont fit
it have extre connectors which carry analog audio
normal miniusb is a serial digital interface which dont carry analog audio
and usb headsets for pc are really external audiocards which make the serial digital data to analog audio
and that require the ability to usbHost which few pda's support

Many thanks for the explanation. However, my phone came with a stereo headset with mic. I currently use this for listening to music but the quality is not good. Does this not mean then that I should be able to get analogue signal from it??
Please forgive my ignorance; I am learning!!

it all comes down to where you connect your headset
if it's the miniusb port benQ got an extention of miniUSB like htc's extusb
if it's a 2.5mm minijack like older htc devices used you can get a conveter to 3.5mm

The only port on the Benq E72 is the mini USB one. There are no other jacks. The problem is that both sides of the metal housing within this are curved so the HTC one (with one side of the miniUSB adaptor straight) wilkl not fit. I did manage to find and buy an adaptor that was branded Samsung and when I fitted it into the miniUSB socket on the phone it would not work. The music continued to play through the rear speaker even though the adaptor was connected. My supplied headset connects to the phone through the same miniUSB paor but again the metal housing of the miniUSB jack is curved at both sides. I hope this explains better.

as i said then miniUSb should not alow audio at all on the device
and htc use extusb which have more legs then miniusb so if it dont fit
it should not be because of any curves
does your benq device not alow headsets at all ?
if it does how are they connected?

The only connector on the Benq E72 is the miniUSB port. In the attached pic you will see the connector for the wired head set on the left and the miniUSB to standard USB for connection to the PC on the right. I looked inside the silver housing of the connectors on both cables and they seem to have 5 pins along the top (widest) part with the main section being hollow. Now the miniUSB housing on the actual phone does have a plastic inside with 5 pins and , I guess, more connectors along the top of this for the 2 cables. I am to assume that the plastic insert in the phone itsaelf is for the electric charger. There is nothing more that I can give you except to say again that the miniUSB is the only connector on the phone.

if it support headsets connected to the usb connector it must be using some sort
of special usb connector like htc's extusb
i would look at their site if they sell converters

Thanks, as I said the only way to connect the headset is by the miniUSB port so it must support audio. The issue is that the HTC miniUSb headset has a curved side and a straight side so it will not physically fit into the Benq E72 connector. I did get my hands on a philips miniUSB that did fit into the socket on my phone but the music still outputted to the rear speaker of the phone. So, my question is, is there different types of miniUSB wired internals? It would seem so. And would anyone know which would work for the Benq E72 windows mobile poweredsmartphone?

@ 17-apg,
Sorry for this off-topic post. Im planning to buy benq e72 because my o2 xphone2 is too old. Can you please give brief review of the phone, as a user. Is it true that it is laggish? Thank you.

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@ 17-apg,
Sorry for this off-topic post. Im planning to buy benq e72 because my o2 xphone2 is too old. Can you please give brief review of the phone, as a user. Is it true that it is laggish? Thank you.
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No problem ,,
I have the device for over 2 months now and like it a lot. Had a HTC S730 before which was thick and cumbersome and I didnt really need the keyboard. This phone, in contrast, is very light and thin. It runs WinMo 6.0 and I do not find it slower than the HTC in any way. On reflection maybe a little faster even. It is very competively priced as it includes bluetooth, quad band radio and wi-fi. The bluetooth also carries the A2DP functionality. The screen, whilst a little small at 2" is very bright and clear. The keypad has large buttons and is very tactile and positive when texting.There's a 2 meg camera included as well as the microSD slot with a max size of 2GB. You can, however, with software, increase this to the norm of 6GB which I have done. Also the rear speaker (built in) is a reasonable size and therefore can play a decent sound for music if you are travelling and in a hotel room for example. And finally, it has little important assets like the ability to turn on auto redial, a button on the left side which when pressed and held will open the text messaging in a send window. There is also the facility to adjust the screen brightness as well as an internet radio and ringtone editor. All in all, for the price, I definitely recommend this phone. I have bought four more since for friends of mine. They paid of course!!! Now all I need is the miniUSB to 3.5mm audio jack sob sob...

Can you tell if a lanyard can be linked to the device - and where? On all available photos on the net I have not seen any holes for fitting the lanyard to :-(
I am really tempted to get that one as well - escpecially as it is the ONLY (!) smartphone with only a normal keyboard that can use microSDHC cards (after installing updated drivers). They seem to double in size every year - and if the standard is fully supported 6 or 8GB (as reported sucesfully) should not be the limit.

Lanyard
Yes, you can connect a lanyard at the top of the phone. If you can see the top view of the device there is a little hole there. You simply slide off the back cover and fit the lanyard to the designated area on the main body of the deivce (very easily) and then slide the back cover on again.
Now we just need a cooked 6.1 rom for the device!!!

Thanks - I found a set of pictures at a Taiwan Review site (http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/?prod_id=2621&tid=3430647&page=1&list_page=1) - this tells it as well
I was only looking for a small device that can read memory cards > 4GB and this is the one now. Otherwise my Tornado in the house of a Robbie still perfectly fits my need. I also tried WM6 and WM6.1 on that - but fell back to the original WM5 there.
Just can't wait to get it in my hands - it was really a bargain on ebay. Search for benq E72 there and you will see a guy in London selling refurbished E72 for just 69 GBP (9 of 21 left). I just could not resist for that price, sigh...
BTW - on topic: did anyone try the Motorola mini-USB connectors - for the Razor and alike?

I dont think so. DO you habve one that you coulkd try when you get the phone? If so, let us know here cause I would really like to use my own ear buds.
BTW I think you will love this phone! It really impresses me. And also Expansys anre selling brand new ones for about £90.00!!

Is there a WM6.1 for this? Thanks.

Benq E72
Not thatI am aware of. I know that another avid fan of the E72 has requested ROM cookers to try to come up with the 6.1 version bit I am not sure if anyone has taken up the challenge.
I hope that it will happen soon ...

I have received mine in the meantime, but the refurbished one was delivered with a non-fitting headset :-(
Well, it fits mechanically, but there is no sound at all. It looks like a cheap replica of a Motorola Stereo Headset - but also a normal Motorola does not work in this socket. So I am out of any possibility to measure the data of the socket to build an adapter. I complained at the dealer - hopefully there still is a working headset available!
Otherwise the device is nice - only English language installed though for menus and T9.
bye
tobbbie

With some help from Taiwan - the USB wiring for the headset is identified, see my blog article at http://tobbbie-benq-e72.blogspot.com/2008/12/hacking-usb-headset-connector.html for more details. The main information is:
....So the final result is then for the numbered pins of the USB connector (1-5):
Must be connected with a resistor less than 200 kOhms to ground (pin 5). The voltage will rise briefly to battery level but then drop back to 0,16 V to stay there. I suspect that accepting calls with the headset button will introduce new functionality here...
Speaker channel (l,r not checked, source indicates right here) - must be connected to a speaker or a pulldown resistor at device-headset connection time.
Speaker channel (l,r not checked, source indicates left here)
Microphone channel (checked to work with Audionotes)
Grounds
So luckily no complicated electronics - get your soldering irons ready!
BTW: have still not received the original headset :-(

need recommendation for a good BT Headset

need recommendation for a good BT Headset.
i'm a student so my budget ain't high but i do need a good one with noise cancaletion so people will be able to hear me outside

What is your actual budget? I'd recommend Blueant: the V1x if money is really a concern. If you look at the stats the V1x is just the surplus V1 that they had in case people needed warranty replacements down the road so you can usually find it for a bit less: around $30 if all you get is the earpiece and the charging cable.
You can get the original V1 or the x with all the extra ear hooks and the inserts as well as car charger for about $55 and $40 respectively.
http://www.amazon.com/BlueAnt-V1-Bl...F8&qid=1345139692&sr=8-4&keywords=blueant+v1x
http://www.amazon.com/BlueAnt-V1X-C...F8&qid=1345139692&sr=8-1&keywords=blueant+v1x

looks small as hell...
my budget... 30$~40$

It's just the right size. Do you want a huge, weighty thing dangling from your ear? As I said you can get it for about $30 if all you get is the headset and USB charger. I think it's worth it for the inserts because you can leave it in your ear without the hook, but that's a matter of preference I suppose.

I recommend anything by PlanTronics that fits in your price range. I've always had good luck with their headsets and keyboards (seriously).

slanidracula said:
I recommend anything by PlanTronics that fits in your price range. I've always had good luck with their headsets and keyboards (seriously).
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Ditto! I was about to say the same thing. :good:

DELL BH200 Bluetooth 2.0 Stereo Headset:good:

sorry to hijack thread, but along these lines, what's a good budget solution for bluetooth for calls in your car that's not a headset. I think there was a motorola device that clipped on to your cars sun visor. Anyone have any recommendations? I have just found headsets somewhat awkward.

I think I have an almost new planetronics Bluetooth headset. It was really nice, I bought it as a gift for my stepdad.
Shortly after that he got the Blue Parrot 250 something or other, it's made for truck drivers and heavy equipment operators and things like that and it suited him better.
I'll see what the model on the planetronics one is and if I can easily lay hands on it I might sell it to you cheap.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda premium

I third the motion.
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Ditto! I was about to say the same thing. :good:
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I have also had great luck with them.

Well the jawbone icon hd is a good headset but out of your budget
Sent from my LTEVO

I've found that having a cheap backup (ordered mine online from China with free shipping) can save your bacon if your primary one dies on battery at a critical moment. The backup may not have the same quality, but if you're in the middle of a hands-free call, you'll have something to fall back on. My backup bluetooth battery seems to hold its charge for months at a time, so its not a big issue if you use it infrequently.