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WMP stutter in WM6 - Please Help!!

i'm getting a stutter in my audio once every song (at a random point during playback). it's just a short stutter but it happens every song and is very annoying.
i've tried the latest htc rom and the lates rogers rom thinking it might have something to with that... but it's not as it happens with both roms.
i've also tried loading the songs to the microsd via both the computer (directly) and the phone (through activesync) and that doesn't change anything... still get stutter.
i've tried playing back from both the mem stick and the phone itself and it's the same either way.
i've also tried playing back with both wmp and tcpmp (or whatever that other one is called). same in either program.
and i've tried loading some 128k files on there and get the same results. i was running 320k files before so thought maybe that was the problem. unfortunately not.
would really appreciate some help in this one!!!
thanks!

Slow Micro SDHC card in Windows Mobile 6.1

Ok, so I've upgraded my ROM to try both Kavana's latest ROM, Rickywatt's v24 vanilla and v24 no opera ROM all with the same issues.
I purchased a Class-4 8GB micro-SDHC card, and loaded it up to almost full of music, and here are my symptoms:
- WMP will Play the music after 30-60 lag between clicks and songs.
- The HTC audio software won't even play a song. I get it into the library and it is incredibly slow. When I click a track to play it, the handheld practically locks.
- While a song is playing, the entire system is bogged down.
Here is what I've tried:
- I've tried putting all the music (3500 tracks) into a single "Music" folder on the card
- I've also tried putting all the music into individual folders by author which effectively reduces the amount of files in one single folder.
Any ideas? Has anyone else gotten a class 4 SDHC card of any size to work properly, or get an 8gb card to work without lagging down the system?

travis.garrison said:
Ok, so I've upgraded my ROM to try both Kavana's latest ROM, Rickywatt's v24 vanilla and v24 no opera ROM all with the same issues.
I purchased a Class-4 8GB micro-SDHC card, and loaded it up to almost full of music, and here are my symptoms:
- WMP will Play the music after 30-60 lag between clicks and songs.
- The HTC audio software won't even play a song. I get it into the library and it is incredibly slow. When I click a track to play it, the handheld practically locks.
- While a song is playing, the entire system is bogged down.
Here is what I've tried:
- I've tried putting all the music (3500 tracks) into a single "Music" folder on the card
- I've also tried putting all the music into individual folders by author which effectively reduces the amount of files in one single folder.
Any ideas? Has anyone else gotten a class 4 SDHC card of any size to work properly, or get an 8gb card to work without lagging down the system?
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All i can say is get a SanDisk not a generic.

Thanks for the input but this is a Kingston branded card. Kingston is a reputable company, and not generic in the least.
Does anyone have any advice besides "get a different card?"
My 2GB non-SDHC works fine without any lag... of course it's a smaller capacity.

travis.garrison said:
Thanks for the input but this is a Kingston branded card. Kingston is a reputable company, and not generic in the least.
Does anyone have any advice besides "get a different card?"
My 2GB non-SDHC works fine without any lag... of course it's a smaller capacity.
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Sorry just persumed that it was generic due to the problem.
Format your card to fat32.

Thanks for the suggestion on the formatting. Vista says that it's currently formatted into FAT32... It came that way from the factory, but I am thinking about reformatting it from my phone... perhaps it doesn't like the size of the FAT tables.

Ummm try formatting it through an xp computer and see if that helps.

what format are your music files? have you tried loading less then 3000+ songs...maybe 50 and see if the problem persists.
have you tried a standard 1 or 2 gig micro card?
and go get tcpmp or core player...
is anything else slow? movie file? just navigating around the phone? any lag?

Yeah, something is funny with the formatting, because when I went to delete off all but 50 or so songs I would select all of the songs, and delete them but Windows would refresh with more songs that weren't "visible" before. I am reformatting the card right now, and then I will see if 50 files works. If that works I'll proceed with more songs.
The songs are MP3 format without DRM encoded into 128kbps. They all play just fine on my 2GB card and on my Laptop.
I'll try TCPMP if those don't work.
If I am not accessing that music through a player or file explorer, then the phone is not slow or sluggish at all. I've taken pictures with the phone and have no problems there. I have not tried playing video, but I suspect it would be fine too.

I reformatted the card into FAT32 (32Kb allocation units) and put a couple hundred songs on it. It was responsive and without error, so I filled it up with music and here is what I get now:
- Windows Media Player will play the songs but with a 30-60 second delay between button presses (play/pause, next back)
- HTC Audio Manager locks and exits to the home screen when a song is clicked on to play (after about 10 sec).
-TCPMP will run and add all of the songs to the playlist, and switches songs with only a short (4 sec) delay between songs.
Even though TCPMP runs acceptably, I consider this only a workaround. Does anyone else have ideas about how to get the HTC Audio Manager working? I am running Rickywatt's Vanilla v24 ROM of WM 6.1...
This is probably content for another post but I was surprised that the vanilla ROM isn't very vanilla. It still has a lot of software imbedded into the ROM.

I've noticed a similar problem myself with my Dash.
I recently got an 8 GB Sandisk class 4 microSDHC card for my Dash (Ricky's rom) with the intention of using it (in tandem with my Jabra 8010 bt stereo headset) as my main music player.
I only have 739 songs on it right now (less than half full) and here's what I've found:
-Windows Media Player has several problems:
---MAJOR lag (30 sec.) when switching tracks, bringing up the menu, etc.
---Tags in the library are messed up. I might end up with 3 album listings for the same album, some tracks are not associated with their albums or artists, etc.
-HTC Audio Manager works great! No lag at all between tracks and correctly reads all my tags (even the ones that WMP messes up).
-TCPMP works good, no problems with it, it's interface is just not optimal for music listening at all. It just crashes the phone whenever I try to blank the screen.
-Pocket Tunes is a wonderful player. It works great with no problems and has great playlist support. It has been my favorite music player on my Palm OS devices for many years; sadly, my trial period is ending soon for the WM version and I really can't justify spending the $37.95 for it.
So, in short, I'm using HTC's Audio Manager for now because WMP is so horribly slow. I just wish that it had a way to blank the screen like WMP does.
I do remember WMP working great when I had my smaller card, so is it just a problem with the library size?

After doing some more testing, and TCPMP isn't as bug free as I thought. I have to create and save a playlist of all the songs, then open TCPMP from that playlist for it to work... otherwise it loads for like 5 minutes and crashes the phone.
I did get HTC Audio manager to work, but that's only from a fresh reboot of the phone and it only works until I exit the app. Here is my guess unless someone else comes up with a better answer:
- WM 6.1 on a 186MHz processor isn't going to be able to quickly index and deliver the 3500+ songs on the 8GB card... This would explain why 400 songs worked fine.
- Perhaps there is a buffer size limit or some other registry hack that can be done to make the file indexing work better for large directories.

youre gonna have to accept that wmp is kinda junk
and tcpmp is the champ.

Ok, I can buy that, but it still doesn't help that TCPMP and Audio Manager still aren't working to the capacity that I need them to.

I'd say Windows Media Player is the problem. However, what's bit rate of you mp3? 320k? Have you tried lower bit rate? Or, even encode with WMA? I know, re-encoding sounds like a big job, do it over night while you're sleeping...

Good point. All of the files are already 128kbps encoded. Also, the problems are existing in more than just WMP. It is also a problem in TCPMP and HTC Audio Manager.
Lately I have been playing around with cooking my own version of The Rose 1.6 ROM that Stylez and Rickwyatt are working on. All I'm doing is removing files and programs that I don't use. It seems like the more I remove, the less of a delay I experience on the song loading and playing. I think the issue is with the amount of memory available.

Guys,
My phone, WM 6.1, HTC S621, does accept my SDHC 4gb card, but it doesnt play anything thru player! I've tried core player, htc audio manage, windows media player, no luck.. =(
There's no problem with the speak on the phone, it works perfectly.. Can anyone help me? Anyone encountered such problem?
Thank you
===Update===
The card works with with tmobile wing, no problem.
Both phones have WM 6.1, in both the card is recognized.. But there's no sound coming out of htc s621.. sigh..

Sense Music tab stops playing after a short time

I have never been able to get my music tab functioning correctly on my device. Whenever I try to play a music file, it will play for about 1-2 minutes and then it just stops playing. It usually seems to happen around 1:45. It isn't just that it loses sound, the time stops counting up and everything. The only way to get it to start playing again is to actually stop the playback and start it over again. The problem only occurs when I try
to use the music tab. WMP, TCPMP, MortPlayer, etc are all fine.
This issue has gone on pretty much since I got my phone last year. I believe that at one time in the past it DID seem to get resolved but I have no idea what was different or what ROM I was running at the time.
Preventing the phone from turning the screen off (my first thought) does not appear to extend the time before it stops. Having the phone plugged in also has no effect. It happens using BT audio as well as the phone's speakers. This issue has persisted across multiple ROM versions and cooks. I have been running mostly EnergyROM lately but have also encountered it with Valkyrie and others.
If anyone has any good ideas on how to fix this I would be grateful. It has gotten to the point that I just ignore the music tab entirely if I don't actively remove it from Sense, but it would be nice to be able to use it.

I'm assuming you're playing your music off of the SD card? Does it behave the same when you play files from the onboard memory?

same here and yeah im running it off the SD card. help please

I too am having the exact same problem.

I have had the problem, but I found out that Opera was also always open when this happens, and I just assumed that the system was running out of memory, so I just play music when Im doing NOTHING else when using the Sense player, but the Alternative is to just use WMplayer or TCMP or Nitrogen

well sense the new cht has the music player on the homescreen i find it very nice and usefull and wmp does take up any memory while the htc sense doesnt..so yeah =/

Leave mp3 playing when turning off?

I've just flashed to the Jacko ROM, and am finding that if an mp3 podcast is playing it stops if I press the power button to turn off the screen. Does anyone know how I can configure WM to keep playing the podcast when I press the power button?

I was facing a similar problem with my origninal HTC TPII which came with default T-mobile ROM version.
I upgraded to the following ROM version today and I can now play the music in my media player while turning the device to sleep mode.
ROM Name : WWE RHODIUM Cookie Energy style
ROM Version : 03.Jul.2010 WWE
ROM date: 03/15/10
RADIO Version : 3.45.25.14
May be you can try the above ROM and see if it helps you..

Thanks for the suggestion. Funnily enough I just switched from the Energy ROM to Jackos ROM, mainly because it leaves me with 20Mb extra program memory! I'm not keen to go back to the Energy ROM for this reason.

Thanks for the reply.. I am a newbie and like mentioned earlier, I tried installing the Energy ROM today itself.. I have yet to try the other ROM's and will try them step by step once I am convinced which is better..
Your explanation gives me a valid reason to try Jackos ROM very soon..
Tried to help you, seems I got some additional knowledge.. Thanks again..

Haha, again a funny thread xD
I guess your problems with playing music while suspended are related to SD card problems. Format them, copy your music back to a folder and see if it works! I had never problems with playing music and turning my device off 0.o And I'm listing a lot to music with my headphones or BT headset while traveling.

Why not install the Sk_customs Keep the music playing .cab. It does exactly what you want without changing the rom.

Jackos said:
Haha, again a funny thread xD
I guess your problems with playing music while suspended are related to SD card problems. Format them, copy your music back to a folder and see if it works! I had never problems with playing music and turning my device off 0.o And I'm listing a lot to music with my headphones or BT headset while traveling.
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Thanks for the suggestion. OK I just reformatted the memory card then copied everything back to it. Same problem - music stops when I turn off the screen.
Where can I find Sk_customs Keep the music playing? I've never heard of it before.

I ran into this problem and went through all the motions and in the end it was the card itself, the brand, I think it was a transcend 8gig. Got another card,different brand(Danelec or something) and the problem went away

itm said:
Thanks for the suggestion. OK I just reformatted the memory card then copied everything back to it. Same problem - music stops when I turn off the screen.
Where can I find Sk_customs Keep the music playing? I've never heard of it before.
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Do you use a 3rd party multimedia player? I found that CoreCodec would not play while the screen is turned off (with the headphone plugged in), but HTC built in audio player plays it just fine.

Baylenthesky said:
Do you use a 3rd party multimedia player? I found that CoreCodec would not play while the screen is turned off (with the headphone plugged in), but HTC built in audio player plays it just fine.
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I use Windows Media Player, but have also tried Pocket Player 4.1.
I'm pretty sure it's not the card that's the problem as it was working fine with the previous (Energy) ROM.

InRBigness said:
Why not install the Sk_customs Keep the music playing .cab. It does exactly what you want without changing the rom.
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Any News on where to get this?
Cab would be great.

I found the file (don't remember where, and sadly it doesn't work for my phone). Oh wait, I just saw that this is a Tilt 2 thread (I have a Tilt 1): I came upon this thread by googling, not through the menus.

Again use the shk_customs keep the music playing cab does exactly what you want. I use the CorePlayer and it works perfectly for me to keep the music on when the screen or power is off.
Why use a piledriver like a rom change when a small hammer works fine.

[Q] What's up with my ROM??

Alright so I have been rooted for over 6 months and I've tried out all the ROMs there are. I finally decided on Deck's 1.3 for it's smoothness and lack of bloat. Here is how I have it set up:
Timat 4.1 + SBC kernel
Car-o-dopes tweaking
launcherpro
underclocked to about 850 mhz
No crazy themes or anything as I like speed over anything. BUT... I have been getting two problems lately: When I listen to music it will stop there will be some harsh static sound, then it will play again. This happens all the time, but more often when I'm multitasking. And the other problem is after I leave my phone for awhile it won't turn on! This happens if I leave it for more then an hour, or if I am watching youtube vids on it where I haven't touched the phone in awhile.
I have wiped both caches and fixed apk mismatches. Can't figure out what else to do. Any ideas??

I just flashed to Salvaged-Zen, and it now only makes the music stutter when I'm downloading large files at the same time. The wake issue is fixed however!

what app are you using to listen to music?
i ask because i use Power Amp, and i have noticed the same behavior only when i listen to certain files, i determined that the files were some how corrupted. i replaced the files with new rips off my CD and they do not do it anymore.

I haven't noticed a difference from songs gotten from iTunes or the market or ripped CDs. So I don't know if that's it. I use the stock music player

got it!
Finally figured it out. I flashed a CFS kernel (I was using a BFS). It stopped all the problems with the music. Makes totally sense because music is a background task