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XDAIIi, Bluetooth Headset and GPS

Hi
I'm looking at purchasing an XDA IIi from O2, both to use as a PDA, phone and for SatNav. It's likely that I'll go with TomTom and I already have a Bluetooth GPS receiver.
I've already got an O2 blue headset that works with my SonyEricsson T610 and I'll also be wanting to use that whilst in the car.
I have some questions that I hope some of you might be able to answer...
Is it possible to use both a bluetooth headset and bluetooth GPS at the same time?
Does the XDA IIi support the O2 blue as the SE T610 does, i.e. I press the button and say the contact I want to call and then the phone (home, mobile etc).?
Thanks for any help!
GWG

Hi
I have the Jabra BT 200 headset and the Leadtek 9537 GPS unit. They both work fine at the same time on my Xda IIi.
I was checking the GPS using Pocket Streets (have not re-installed Tom Tom yet but I do not envisage a problem)
The BT setup seems better on the IIi, there wasn't any messing around with the COM port settings like there was with the Xda II.
If you mean the fonix VoiceDial software that comes with it, then yes, it does work that way.
On the whole, I am pleased with the IIi (I had the II for a year), the camera is flakey but I can live with that.

MarkySan...
Thanks for that... Looks like it'll do what I'm after
I might then have to become a regular on these forums!
Cheers
GWG

Be warned, if you mean the o2 CLIP blue headset (made by iTech), I also have it and have been unable to get it working. (Why oh why can I not have the old stack from the xda2 as that worked perfectly with headset profile)
At one point I was briefly able to get it installed as a handsfree device but it then stopped working. Before I got rid of my xda2 I tried re-pairing the devices and it worked great first time. Other BT headsets I had access to worked fine.
Does anyone else have this headset and an xda2i? I've posted about this before but got absolutely no feedback whatsoever. Could anyone tell me if they're using a clip style headset (not the ones that hook round your ear) with the 2i...how much it cost and what make etc. I may have to bite the bullet, sell the o2 headset and buy another one.
Cheers
Anthony

2 BT devices simultaneously on XDA II
This is an interesting problem. I've got an XDA II, a leadtek BT gps receiver and a nokia handsfree BT carkit, plus Tom Tom.
I haven't got them all working at once yet and have been told there is a problem getting the handsfree to work anyway.
This was from a so called reputable high st mobile phone chain (who also said that only one BT device could be connected at once).
Any help or advice appreciated....
David

Well, I got my XDA IIi and very nice it is too.. this is my first foray into the world of PDA so I've nothing to compare too, so I'm very pleased
I've twinned it with my O2 blue headset and it works fine.
Also got TomTom navigator and a bluetooth GPS (although you still need a cable for power across the dashboard! Doh!).
They both work together, although there does seem to be some strangeness when they're both on:
1. The GPS sometimes drifts off... although this is based on a 15 minute drive into Town only
2. When on a call, the GPS signal seems to go completely and TomTom doesn't know where I am!
I do have a question about WiFi and MMS if anyone could help...
I have a WLAN at home, whihc the XDA IIi seems to connect to fine. However, when I am connected to it, I cannot send or receive MMS messages.. I'm sure it's something to do with this 'Internet' or 'Work' stuff, but this is all rather confusing. Has anyone written an idiots guide to all these strange settings?
Thanks!

ive used it all week on calls and even had the voice through my jabra 250 gps stayed on all the time it was fine the only problem i had was i couldnt get gprs without a softreset

Alix, are you saying you got the Tom Tom voice directions through the Jabra?
If so, I'm off to get the i!

Firstly is this forum ONLY for developers?
Because you will quickly discover that I am not a developer but a confused user and I was hoping that I could get some advice here?
Anyway I have a Bluetooth headset and was considering getting TomTomGo but also wondered if the headset and a BT GPSr would work together.
Also does anyone know if we will ever get voice dialling working on MobilePPC? I had a brief discussion with someone at Fonix who said that "Microsoft does not expose the necessary functions to third party software developers like Fonix".

Actually, now I've been using it for a while, it seems the reason Tom Tom drifted was because of a loss of signal.
Using the BT headset and Tom Tom with the BT GPS together is fine.
What is annoying though is the fact that the Phone App pops up in front of Tom Tom and doesn't go away when the call is complete.
Also, when touching the button on the headset to open the connection with the phone, it doesn't automatically start the Voice dial, you still have to reach across and fumble about looking for the button on the side. Has anyone got any ideas if it's possible?
That being said, the voice dial works OK.. not brilliant, and the voice that tells me what it thinks I've said is rather disappointing.. I want to keep telling it to 'Please speak more clearly' !
And I too can hear the Tom Tom voice prompts through the BT headset when the conection is open, although I prefer not to.

See my note re what the Fonix guy said above.

aRGybaRGy said:
Well, I got my XDA IIi and very nice it is too.. this is my first foray into the world of PDA so I've nothing to compare too, so I'm very pleased
I've twinned it with my O2 blue headset and it works fine.
Also got TomTom navigator and a bluetooth GPS (although you still need a cable for power across the dashboard! Doh!).
They both work together, although there does seem to be some strangeness when they're both on:
1. The GPS sometimes drifts off... although this is based on a 15 minute drive into Town only
2. When on a call, the GPS signal seems to go completely and TomTom doesn't know where I am!
I do have a question about WiFi and MMS if anyone could help...
I have a WLAN at home, whihc the XDA IIi seems to connect to fine. However, when I am connected to it, I cannot send or receive MMS messages.. I'm sure it's something to do with this 'Internet' or 'Work' stuff, but this is all rather confusing. Has anyone written an idiots guide to all these strange settings?
Thanks!
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You can ONLY connect to MMS via the O2 GPRS network. Since your WIFI is outside their network, and is somebody elses, they won't let you login to their servers to send. All the carriers work this way - it's how they charge!

Hi,
I have a XDAIIi, Nokia car kit and TomTom 3 bluetooth. I have been trying to connect my phone to the car kit using bluetooth. Unfortunately it will only connect for phone calls. Does anyone knows how to permanently connect the phone using a different profile, so that I can listen to music and voice instruction of my TomTom using the car audio system? Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Reda

Hi,
I have a XDAIIi, Nokia car kit and TomTom 3 bluetooth. I have been trying to connect my phone to the car kit using bluetooth. Unfortunately it will only connect for phone calls. Does anyone knows how to permanently connect the phone using a different profile, so that I can listen to music and voice instruction of my TomTom using the car audio system? Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Reda

All I can help you with is that using my Jabra I press the call end button on the headset and the sound for my Tom Tom and MP3s comes through the headset.
Hope this helps.

Thanks mindracing. Do you know what services/profile your jabra return when you enquire it?
KR,
Reda

It shows up as Hands Free connection to Jabra 250.
Status just shows Jabra 250/Audio Gateway.
If you know where else to look just ask.

Thanks mindracing. yesterday I tried every possible combination but it seems I cannot stream my music and Tomtom instruction to the car kit.
Thanks anyway.
KR
Reda

just a note on this. I have had a jabra bt205 working with a QStarz BT-800 gps, it works ok BUT when i changed from the jabra to a stereo headset it workd ok too but only on the crap audio quality. I installed the cab file for A2DP support. now i have really good audio but as soon as i try to connect the gps the audio goes all choppy and eventualy cuts out.
It is of my limited opinion that you cant run A2DP and a bluetooth GPS because of the bandwidth (data transfer) available. Ive yet to see if i can get tomtom running with the wired gps and A2DP quality headset.
Think ill be goin back to wired headset for on the bike so i can have music, tomtom and calls... just need to find someone on here who has got a voice dial prog to run from the green call button on the wired headset.

GPS and BT Headset on XDA II
Anton.Valleyman said:
Does anyone else have this headset and an xda2i? I've posted about this before but got absolutely no feedback whatsoever. Could anyone tell me if they're using a clip style headset (not the ones that hook round your ear) with the 2i...how much it cost and what make etc. I may have to bite the bullet, sell the o2 headset and buy another one.
Cheers
Anthony
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I use the MS BT stack with my Blue Ant BT earpiece and the Broadcom BT stack with a BTGPS74R receiver (aka Holox BT-321). They both work well individually, but not together. Another post made the point about com port issues ... well yes, I use the Broadcom BT Manager for this purpose, but the XDA II does not pair with the Blue Ant, even with TomTom 6 OFF. It shows up but is not really paired correctly.
Perhaps there is a simple answer ... if so, I am sure someone will advise me.

bluetooth issues

I finally went out and bought a blue tooth headset and it works fine. Then after some time the blue tooth on my phone turns off. I have updated with the bt resume issue and still does the same thing. I went and updated the blue tooth on my phone to 3900. When i check the connection folder there is now 2 blue tooth icons. One is the old blue tooth and the other is the new install. The new install will not let me turn on the blue tooth or let me add any profiles. I tried to uninstall but it's still in the connection folder. Is there any reg tweaks to keep the blue tooth on at all time in my phone?
WM5
PHONE - Siemens SX66
RADIO - 1.02.10

This is a known issue with the BA WM5 ROMs. Unfortunately there's no way to use the Widcomm/Broadcom 3900 BT update with WM5. We are stuck with the MS BT stack and this issue until a solution is found to prevent the BT from turning off when the phone wakes from sleep. If BT is really important, then your only option at this point is to downgrade to WM2003SE.

Thanks just downgraded! LuXx

What Headset are you using? I have tried the cardo and plantronics and neither work. Just upgraded to 1.15.00 Radio Rom and still the same crackling.
Peter

Bluetooth on XDA11S sucks, I've had mine for less than a month, bought it the same time as my girlfriend, I've tried pairing with Jabra and Plantronics headsets, both are crackly and offer poor quality, I cannot pair with my HCB-700 car kit with the 3900 cab, if I downgrade to 3500 I can pair but not create a shortcut, it just about works but is very echoey, my gf bought the low end Nokia kit which is on the supported list from O2 which has the worst echo ive ever heard. If I call her from my xda it the sound goes into a feedback loop.
If anyone has a modified working stack then Im up to giving it a go. I've tried all those available on the FTP site and am just about ready to return my XDA and demand my money back.
O2 Support are useless, their default answer is if its not an O2 BT headset or other device then they wont offer support..

update...
O2 informed me that there are no plans ever to issue another BT update beyond the current 3900 release, if you try to use a device that isnt listed on the my-xda site youre buggered.. No support offered.
I need a WM5 BT Stack to try on my xda... anyone got one?

Motorola HF850 Bluetooth Cat Kit problem

Recently installed new HTC WM6 Rom and all is sweetness and light......except.......When I accept an incoming call on the Bluetooth Motorola HF850, the first 6 -8 seconds are handled by the Orbit and then the bluetooth kicks in - trouble is the caller has hung up by then!
Tried deleting pairing and reinstalling....anyone with ideas?? Thanks.

Hi all,
I am facing the same problem with my Motorola car kit. Very annoying. I can receive calls and after 6-8 secs they can hear me, but I can not make a call, only mutes sound on both the headset and car kit. I have to select "Turn Off Handsfree" to get it to work... HELPPLEASEE!!!!!

Same exact problem here with Hermes - any ideas anybody?

The solution...
Try jetwaremobile.com - it worked for me on Moto and Siemens HF devices... free trial to see if it works...

I have a partial solution:
I answer the phone on the PDA unit, not on the BT unit, and then I click the blue button on the BT car kit and the phone immidiately connects.
This connects much faster than the usual 10 seconds wait if you answer with your Car Kit button.

TangerineTractor said:
Try jetwaremobile.com - it worked for me on Moto and Siemens HF devices... free trial to see if it works...
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Hi, this is my first post. I've the same problem with my vario ii (T-mobile) recently upgraded to WM6. Installed the program from jetware and the same problem still persists. Funny enough, it did fix the problem with voice speed dialer.

I've been talking to motorola about their hf850 and they don't have a clue. I used and old MDA Compact II with WM5 and that worked fine with the car kit. I downgraded to WM5 on my Vario II and since this morning my HF850 carkit has been woking as I would expect it to. I definitely think that the problem is with bluetooth on WM6.

I have the same problem with my HTC Tornado (Cingular 2125) with WM6.

Same problem here with Trinity & WM6 - maybe this is a Microsoft/Bluetooth stack problem... any other ideas?

Problems with "Parrot Minikit" hands free car kit

Hi all,
I just bought the Parrot minikit Hands Free car kit.
I am facing allot of problems with this device:
1. The main one is that when I am issuing a call from the TOUCH, the sound remains in the TOUCH and is not routed to the car kit.
2. When someone calls me most of the times I can answer the call and it works fine, but sometimes the phone rings and the car kit not.
I read in the trinity accessories forums that people faced the same problems with other Parrot car kits when they upgraded their roms to WM6.
I opened a SUPPORT case to Parrot and they are saying:
"We have fully tested the HTC Touch in France with our Minikit and we did not see any impediments. "
So I emailed them back with allot of links describing the problem.
Did anyone faced problems with the Parrot Mnikit or any other Parrot car kit with the Touch?
Thanks,
Carmi

Carkit problem
Hi,
I have a similar problem. I have my HTC touch paired with a Nokia Bluetooth carkit. I get incomming calls over the speaker but when I answer the call I first have to go to the menu and select "enable handsfree calling".
I can make outgoing calls directly via the carkit whitout selecting an option in the menu. Furthermore the volume is very low compared to my prvious PD (MDA Vario).
Has anyone a fix for this?
Gus

I have The same problem
I have an HTC Touch with a Parrot CK3100 freehand car Kit and have the same problem.
Often, when I receive a call the car kit show the call in display but when I pick up the CK shows an icon (like a musical note) and the audio is not transferred.
When I call from the HTC, some times works fine and some times no.
A partner of my company with the same car kit and a HTC Touch dual, has the same problem too.
With WM5 works fine (I test it with HP6515).

did you set the "services to use from this device" to "Hands Free" ?

This is a known issue with Parrot devices and WM6. I've had the same problem with a couple of different HTC WM6 devices. The problem is specifically related to Parrot, not WM6 in general. I've used the Tytn II with Motorola and BlueAnt BT devices without any problems. I upgraded my minikit from v1.02 software to v1.03, but that hasnt fixed the symptoms which we are all complaining of.
ARE YOU LISTENING PARROT?! Ive had the minikit for 6 months and I'm getting tired of waiting for a version of software that will fix all our problems.

I have the exact same issue with my Parrot 3200. I'm also waiting for a solution from Parrot!

Parrot MINIKIT and Touch problems
I've similar problem.
paired the two devices, sometimes I can start a call from my Touch and the sound is on the MINIKIT speaker, but most of the times the is still on the phone and I have to press the green button to switch the call on the parrot speaker.
I've upgraded the firmware from 1.02 to 1.03.
Another information: I've tested the MINIKIT with my blackberry 8100 and works perfectly, when paired and connected every calls is routed to the parrot speaker, so I think It's an issue between the parrot and WM6.
Any news?
thank you

Besides my Touch I also use my BlackBerry 8800 and that also works fine. With htc it's not working as it should be.

HTC Touch Parrot mk6100 PROBLEM!
With the Parrot mk6100 I have all the problems possible.
This Parrot is supposed to play properly the mp3 files that I have in the touch, but everything is a dissaster. Very long to write. The thouch gets hunged every time.
The worst problem is that the Parrot can't read the contacts in the Touch.
I have spoken with Parrot and Htc here in Spain and both say that the problem is Windows mobile 6.
I don't know what to do...

ive got the dual w mk6100
after having a lot of issues i found out i had to pair it both ways and the mk6100 got to say "bye". then everything worked fine. well almost. but pretty good indeed.
i posted in niki accesories.
it takes time to sync the contacts, true, but it finally does.
as far as i know, touch and touch dual is not that different , except for the mhz.
let me know what you think

Touch cruise and Parrot Minikit
I have the similar problems too. Sometimes the sound cannot be routed to the car kit. There is no way to understand the reason why one time it works fine and another time it cannot move the sound via blue tooth. Sometimes pressing the green button of the parrot minikit is possible to move the sound to the car kit, sometimes it doesn't help - the sounds remains in the HTC. I tested the Parrot minikit paired with Nokia E70 - I haven't seen any problems. Also I have tested the HTC paired with another blue tooth car kit - BHF-200 and all was OK.
I wonder ... if someone knows ... if the WM6.1 (by Bepe) will fix the problem!
Thanks in advance !

Parrot Minikit just tested with QTEK 900, WM6.1-Ranju
The Parrot minikit was tested with my other PPC - QTEK 9000 (HTC Universal) and I didn't see any problems. The QTEK works under WM6.1 (Ranju pack).
So I really wonder ... to upload WM6.1 to my HTC touch cruise ...
Any comments and opinions are welcome.
Thanks in advance !
p.p. My HTC touch cruise is still with its original WM6.0 ...

Bluetooth Hotfixes
Has any of you guys or girls tried any of the "Bluetooth Hotfixes", that are available for HTC branded devices on the HTC e-Club site.
It seems to fix dropped calls and connection probs. (and it seems to work)
The hotfix is available for several HTC devices.
You just have to register your HTC branded phone to get to the download portion of the site for your model, and see if it's available.
It's definitely there for the Elf, Tytn II and S710 (i'm not sure if it's there for the Touch cruise)

Bluetooth Car kit problems

Just wondering if you guys can help
My touch Pro 2
Vodafone UK
ROM - 1.14.161.6 (50207)
Radio - 3.44.25.27
Protocol - 61.25t.25.19U
links to the 2009 BMW 5 series iDrive and reads the phone book I can make calls fine but if I pick up an in coming call using the iDrive controller it makes the connection but there is no sound either way.
If I press the phone answer button on an incoming call then it works perfectly.
It does not do this all the time but its more like 90% can't hear and 10% works fine.
I contacted HTC who said that the phone matches the bluetooth profiles and it should be fine BMW have not got back to me yet (4 weeks so far)
this also happens to some one else I work with and his touch pro 2 on his 2005 BMW with the older iDrive and built in BMW Phoneprep.
another guy with an Audi has no issues at all. I also contacted Bury who make the Uni-System 8 car kits about when they were going to do a cradle for the TP2 and I was informed that they were not planning it at present, I asked why and they said "HTC's bluetooth was flakey"
I put the hard SPL on the phone and upped it to the latest HTC build
ROM - 1.19.707.2 (51489)
Radio - 3.44.25.27
Protocol - 61.25t.25.19U
but have put it back to the Warranty status as it did not make any difference
Any help appreciated

I know Parrto is a different BT HFBTP but I had all kinds of flakey problems until I updated to the latest Radio in the TP2 and upgraded to the latest firmware for the Parrot CK3100 Car Unit.
Try an update to your iDrive system.

More car kit problems
I'm really disappointed by the bluetooth in the TP2. Having just upgraded from a Snap which worked perfectly with all my attachments, the TP2 is a disaster with the car kit in my (new) Volvo. (A bit like the BMW story at the head of the thread.) Won't connect to my TomTom sat nav. Almost works with my Parrot (upgraded as recommended above). Not what you expect from a 'top of the range' piece of kit from htc. I hope there will be a patch for the BT stack. In the meantime I have to revert to my Snap for car journeys. Bizarre.

This happened to me:
If I don´t set up a data connection to my carrier, the link to my bluetooth car kit works perfectly, meaning that I can answer calls and hang up using the button on the steering wheel.
Once I set up a data connection, I can only answer and hangup using the buttons on the telephone. In any case I can listen and talk using the car kit.

TP2
The same issue here. My TP2 won't connect properly to my Volvo V70 2009 BT Car kit. It is connecting and synchronizing but then it won't make call's. (sometimes it suddenly does work). My phone is getting really slow. And somethine the connection fall's away during a conversation. Even when i shut down all data connections on my phone it behaves as mentioned here above. HTC and Volvo just point at each other and a solution seems far away. Yes. I did the firmware upgrades on both sides. At this time i would not recommend the HTC TP2 as a business phone. My collegues have similar issues with other car brands.
Volvo V70 2009 - Firmware November 2009
HTC Touch pro 2 - WM 6.5 UK (and a dutch vodafone office account)
Anyone with a solution? Suggestions? thnx.

My TP2 (unbranded) was working fine until I updated it to WM6.5 (an official release). Now, there are no issues when it gets paired with my son's Mitsubishi Lancer but it refuses to work correctly with my Audi A4. It picks a call but stays silent until charger is connected. Disconnecting of charger "fixes" the situation so I start hearing a call.

Bluetooth wasn't working for me either. Pairing went fine, answering worked, but no sound at all... I followed instructions on this page: http://www.everythingwm.com/forum/moto-q-9c/q9c-and-infiniti-g35x-bluetooth-problem-16833-4.html and now everything works as expected. I'm driving a Renault Espace with a built-in stereo/gps/carkit.

i bought a car kit MP3 player for my car. I paired it with my TP2 and enabled the "BT Audio" and "BT Handsfree". Outgoing calls work fine with no problems at all. But during incoming calls there is a problem. If the incoming call is from someone saved in my contacts, the BT carkit does not ring. If its from an unknown number (not saved in my contacts), it works perfectly. I tried all the tweaks and hacks in this forum but nothing worked. Anymore ideas.