Is it possible to configure the camera button on Hermes/TyTN with Windows Mobile 6 to automatically turn on the backlight and "unlock" when pressed?
Currently, it takes five actions to take a photo when the phone has been "locked" and the backlight has been turned off:
1) Pressing the "power" button to turn on the backlight.
2+3) Pressing the "unlock" buttons twice to unlock.
4) Pressing the "camera" button to start camera application.
5) Pressing the "camera" button to take photo.
Ideally, taking a photo should only require pressing the "camera" button twice. The "camera" button is sufficiently small and hard for this to work safely.
I expected this to be a common request but I have been unable to find any info or even requests regarding this anywhere.
Kinda defeats the purpose of locking all keys if the camera button can be hit by something in your pocket, etc and activate a full backlight with the camera running. That would be a battery waster real quickly...
As I already wrote, I find the "camera" button to be sufficiently small and hard for this to work safely - except maybe if you have all kinds of hard items of junk in the pocket, too - which I don't and which would probably ruin the screen before the battery runs out making that the least of your problems.
vejrum said:
except maybe if you have all kinds of hard items of junk in the pocket, too - which I don't and which would probably ruin the screen before the battery runs out making that the least of your problems.
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install s2u2, that will provide slide to unlock, one less press! Another better idea, don't set your phone to lock when in standby mode as your pocket has nothing. So, there is no need to lock. That would bring down to 3 press.
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The power button on HD is in an inconvenient position and hard to press.
Is it possible to use any other button (like Vol-Down) to power off and on?
I tried AEButton, but it does not seem to have an option to "power-on".
Thanks
Power Off would be possible, however to Power On the device you always need to press the configured power button. This is since AEButton is a software solution and does not alter the hardware settings. Thus making it only run while Windows Mobile is on (by altering the Windows Settings), and since when the device is off WinMo isn't running, so it won't work while the device is off.
sank27 said:
The power button on HD is in an inconvenient position and hard to press.
Is it possible to use any other button (like Vol-Down) to power off and on?
I tried AEButton, but it does not seem to have an option to "power-on".
Thanks
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It's supposed to be somewhat difficult ...
If you don't already know, virtually ALL power buttons are somewhat hard to press/use. It's supposed to be that way. If they were easier to press, you could easily power off your phone while it's in your pocket by accidentally hitting the volume up or down keys, or any other accidental push.
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KilZone said:
Power Off would be possible, however to Power On the device you always need to press the configured power button. This is since AEButton is a software solution and does not alter the hardware settings. Thus making it only run while Windows Mobile is on (by altering the Windows Settings), and since when the device is off WinMo isn't running, so it won't work while the device is off.
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I actually meant the state into which the device goes when you press the power button once (Sleep, suspend ... whatever that is called, although this state is sometimes called power-off), and not complete power-off (by holding the power button).
In this Sleep/Suspend, is it not possible to remap the button?
I mean that it is still able to receive calls in this state, so something is running. But not WinMo?
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If you don't already know, virtually ALL power buttons are somewhat hard to press/use. It's supposed to be that way. If they were easier to press, you could easily power off your phone while it's in your pocket by accidentally hitting the volume up or down keys, or any other accidental push.
Peter
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You are right for accidental presses. However that can be taken care by assigning (if possible) a double press instead of single.
Oh, and I am sorry, I did not mean full power off, only sleep/suspend.
For PDAs, such a button placement may be ok, as you anyway have to use both hands to hold the PDA and take out/use the stylus.
But for this phone, single hand use is important. I dont use the stylus most of the time.
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to power on with up/down control, change DefaultKeyLock to 0 in registry.
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to power on with up/down control, change DefaultKeyLock to 0 in registry.
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Thanks!! That's almost does it, but for the double press.
I added single press of Vol-Dn in AEB to Today Screen, and double press to a MortScript with PowerOff command.
Now to see if it accidentally comes on in the pouch...
Hi guys,
Here is my dream situation:
- Double tap "Hang Up" button to lock the device (I understand this can be done with AEButton Plus, although I haven't tried yet)
- Screen will turn off after a while
- Unlock the device by swiping the finger
At no point are the hardware buttons pressed! My new cover makes touching the power button very hard
Is this possible???
Thanks
They problem, as I am sure you've realized, is that once the phone enters suspended mode the digitizer is disabled (touch) and so are all other non hardware buttons.
I've always had problems with the power button on the HD being a pain in the neck to find and hit, so what I did to rectify this was cut a small hard plastic sticker to the size of the power button and stuck it on there. This helps a lot in not only finding the power button but also pressing it.
(Sticker was a liquid crystal thermometer sticker made by OMEGA: product number RCL-8050/150 I found this to be the perfect width, so I cut off a 1mm sliver off the end)
If you were really stuck on making this work exact as you described, you could prevent the phone from shutting down and just turn off the screen.
(I'm unsure of how the different screen off programs effect the digitizer, my guess it they all disable it at the same time, but I'm sure all that could be seperated.)
However since only the screen would turn off not the device, you'd drain the batter, and its short life would make this not worth it.
Alternate solutions:
Instead of doubletap hangup which you could do through AEButton Plus, but longpress end key can do the same thing just instead by holding the end call key
Also, you configure your phone to wake up at the press of any hardware key, IE the volume buttons on the HD.
Seen here
Also, you configure your phone to wake up at the press of any hardware key, IE the volume buttons on the HD.
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Could you please upload the Keylock Zip file?
Very simple and very very light application.
Does exactly what it says on the TIN.
The reason I compiled this application is purely to avoid using power button as I don’t want it to worn out. To turn the screen on or off we have to use power button which might stop working if we use the button too much. This application will cut the use of the power button by 50% at least
Rather than using the power button to turn the screen on and off, tap on this application to turn the screen off. Very small application V1.0
I might release another one when I get feedback from the users.
If you want just exe file then copy it in to your phonewindows->start menu-> program folder
Or use cab file which will install it on the above location for you
Enjoy !!!!
Trying to be contructive, the way this application could be more useful (to me) would be if it triggered the standard screen lock at the same time as switching off the screen. This would save me tapping 'start' then 'lock' and then pressing the power button.
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Trying to be contructive, the way this application could be more useful (to me) would be if it triggered the standard screen lock at the same time as switching off the screen. This would save me tapping 'start' then 'lock' and then pressing the power button.
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That makes a lot of sense!
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Trying to be contructive, the way this application could be more useful (to me) would be if it triggered the standard screen lock at the same time as switching off the screen. This would save me tapping 'start' then 'lock' and then pressing the power button.
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hiya,
much appreciate for your comments. do you mean turning screen off as well as locking the screen..? so that when you touch the screen it won't come back on...?
I'm working on to prepare better version i.e. it would be on the home screen so that no clicking on start menu and then this app.
cheers
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Trying to be contructive, the way this application could be more useful (to me) would be if it triggered the standard screen lock at the same time as switching off the screen. This would save me tapping 'start' then 'lock' and then pressing the power button.
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I think he means that you program should not only turn off the devise, but also lock it with the standard WM lock at the same time. That would be good for me, at least.
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I think he means that you program should not only turn off the devise, but also lock it with the standard WM lock at the same time. That would be good for me, at least.
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screen off + lock at same time only pressing Powerbutton.
It work perfectly for me so as it is. I changed the left soft-key so that it will start "turn off the light.exe" .When the screen is off S2U2 will lock the screen. So I can turn off and lock the screen with only one click.
To change the soft key do this:
with a registry editor go to HKLM/Software/HTC/manila/ . in HomeLSKPath (left softkey) or HomeRSKPath (right softkey) write the address to "turn off the light.exe". HomeLSKText and HomeRSKText are the text for the softkeys.
That´s it!
update for touch diamond
hi everyone,
massive thanks to all those who provided replies. I have tried on my blackstone (Touch HD) and it does seems to turn off the screen plus all keys as well.
I can confirm that it doesnt lock all the keys i.e. doesnt lock the device on touch diamond model. I'll modify the program and upload the newer version with the feature of locking the keys plus turning off the screen.
once agian special thanks to everyone.
Certainly reading the comments above, people seemed to understand what I was getting at. With the screen off, the buttons on a HD will indeed be non-responsive, however if an event (SMS or similar) woke the screen, the device would be in an unlocked state. What I would be interested in is a program that turned off the screen and invoked the standard WM lock program (gwes.exe?).
Hope that makes sense.
i like this application but i think the icon is really ugly..
Hi,
is there a possibility to do a screen unlock application which can be activated by voice commander? the situation is this...
I used voice commander to launch google maps while my hand is busy when the screen is lock. however, i will need a program which can be initiated by the voice commander to unlock the screen so that i can navigate the maps. Right now i will have to unlock the screen the normal way which i find voice commander redundant since i'll have to use my finger during lunching anyway.
Can you help me on this? Many thanks in advance. =)
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Certainly reading the comments above, people seemed to understand what I was getting at. With the screen off, the buttons on a HD will indeed be non-responsive, however if an event (SMS or similar) woke the screen, the device would be in an unlocked state. What I would be interested in is a program that turned off the screen and invoked the standard WM lock program (gwes.exe?).
Hope that makes sense.
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Here is the app that has the feature which you prefer:
LockDevice => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542482
Thanks for the link!
Been using this app so i dont have to fumble with the power button to turn the screen off. Seems this app only turns off the screen and doesnt actualy put the phone in sleep. I would like an app like this that acts as the power button does. So when i put the phone to sleep with the icon, i cant accidently slide the keyboard out a touch and have the phone wake up.
The whole deal has to do with tilt 2's keyboard sensor and magnet cases. With this app, the keyboard sensor still activates when sliding into a magnet flap case, while having slie to wake disabled
carhigh said:
Been using this app so i dont have to fumble with the power button to turn the screen off. Seems this app only turns off the screen and doesnt actualy put the phone in sleep. I would like an app like this that acts as the power button does. So when i put the phone to sleep with the icon, i cant accidently slide the keyboard out a touch and have the phone wake up.
The whole deal has to do with tilt 2's keyboard sensor and magnet cases. With this app, the keyboard sensor still activates when sliding into a magnet flap case, while having slie to wake disabled
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Hiya,
I'm working on the program so that you can have configuration option to simulate power button to put phone in sleep mode or jus to turn the screen off. This utility was just for people who want to save power whilst listening to the music, etc.
Please keep any ideas/suggestion coming. Much appreciated guys.
Watch the space guys....
That is great inítiative. I use the screen off function actually for the purpose to save power when navigation. screen off when there is a long straíght way to drive.
Put device to sleep mode will cause gps signal lost, which is not so nice.
I can image that there will be a lot of person who wnat to have different adds-on on this small application, it might be a solution to provide command argument.
Thank you.
I will try to see whether this one works for my purpose. Actually in my situation, I even don't want any key be locked as these keys are mapped for navigation.
How about screen toggle thus it is possible to map this application to a key?
awesome, i mapped the exe to a hardware key next to standby. now i can easily save power while wardr listening to music. ^_^
it combines very well with s2u2 locking function too.
big thanks!
tom_hungston said:
Very simple and very very light application.
Does exactly what it says on the TIN.
The reason I compiled this application is purely to avoid using power button as I don’t want it to worn out. To turn the screen on or off we have to use power button which might stop working if we use the button too much. This application will cut the use of the power button by 50% at least
Rather than using the power button to turn the screen on and off, tap on this application to turn the screen off. Very small application V1.0
I might release another one when I get feedback from the users.
If you want just exe file then copy it in to your phonewindows->start menu-> program folder
Or use cab file which will install it on the above location for you
Enjoy !!!!
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Tom, may be it was to late to find your toggle light off switch, but it was very important for me to find it, thank you man, you solved a terrible issue for me, which is that programs stop updating (eg: twitter) when the device is in standby mode.
I heard that you can release another one, so my feedback is:
it takes about 2 seconds to turn off the light, isn't there any faster??? ))
This application is great. Combined with the S2U2 and HD Tweak i don't even have to use the power button at all. Device locked by S2U2 as soon as i turn off the light, waking up device by pulling out the stylus and rebooting with the help of HD Soft reset. Thanks
P.S. You should really add a decent icon, even though people can change it if they want to.
Would it be possible to configure our Rhodiums to wake from sleep mode upon a quick double tap on the screen? If possible it could be set that only a double tap (one tap followed by another no longer than half a second later for example) would wake the device to ensure accidental knocks in our pocket wouldn't wake it.
Any ideas?
Thanks
anyone any ideas?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say this isn't possible without seriously jeapordizing battery life, so it wouldn't be something plausible.
Consider that what you're asking means your device will always have to monitor the screen and thus never enter standby mode.
Perhaps you should look into applying the registry fix that will wake your device on any key press (not just the power button). Maybe that will work for you as well, while still letting your device go into standby.
What is wrong with the built-in power button again?
I would like that also (different button to turn on). With the diamond the centre round button would be a better button to turn on the pda than the current power button (which is a little too far recessed for my liking) The centre button is larger but recessed also which would stop accidently turning in on in your pocket.
Link to previous thread regarding pressing any key to wake...
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say this isn't possible without seriously jeapordizing battery life, so it wouldn't be something plausible.
Consider that what you're asking means your device will always have to monitor the screen and thus never enter standby mode.
Perhaps you should look into applying the registry fix that will wake your device on any key press (not just the power button). Maybe that will work for you as well, while still letting your device go into standby.
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yeah thats a fair point, ddn't think too much about the implications of it having to perhaps always be awake!
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What is wrong with the built-in power button again?
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Nothing wrong with the power button, just thought itd be a cool feature to be able to do that, but ill stick with whats best!
I think HTC's placement of the power button is perfect. I've been using smartphones and PDAs for a while and that's just the natural spot I EXPECT a power button to be. In fact with my breif stay with a Blackjack II I kept hitting the power button to dim the screen, which on that phone would actually turn it off, like off off.
And as stated above, when your phone goes into standby, the screen turns off, it can't detect anything. In order to keep the sensor on, you would be draining power when your phone really shouldn't.
I'll throw my coin in the hat of "silly idea"
My first Tilt 2, which had a dud microphone, the power button was fine.. It was recessed but easily pressed. My current Tilt 2 I have to press holding the phone longwise.. if I'm holding the phone on the sides I can't press the power button... I'm thinking the screen moves slightly more or the button is more recessed. It's kind of annoying.
Personally I'd also like not have to use the power button all the time myself, although I wouldn't want to tap to do it.. One of the four hardware buttons would be just fine.
Yes, I know sliding and removing the stlyus turn it on too, neither thing I do often.
So the power button of my Pixel 2 XL is unfortunately dying. Sometimes it works a few times and then a button press does nothing. It also triggers easily a double press (noticeable because that starts the camera) when tapping it only once. Gets really annoying when you think you have powered it off but it is still powered on in your pocket...
Are there any ideas how to fix the issue without opening the device? I don't want to open the device by myself after I ****ed up my Nexus 6 after a battery swap.
Any workarounds for the problem? Currently I use Novas remapping of the home button for power off but that is not really comfortable because you have to leave the current app for that.
Different roms have different options that may partly help. Often they are at settings/system/gestures.
For wake, use fingerprint. For sleep, set a very short timeout, or see if you can find a rom with double-tap to sleep option. If camera starts at the wrong time, disable the camera quick start.
But none of this will help you if the phone is really turned off. Can you really live with not knowing whether you can start the phone if it runs out of power?
I will look into some of the options. I'd like to stay with the stock rom though (but I have root if that helps).
The button is not that broken. If I press really hard I can always get it to work again, so I have no fear it won't power on again.