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New MS live search with voice recognition is out, pretty sweet app (and its free) did not see it on here (used search)
http://www.livesearchmobile.com/windows_mobile.htm
looks nice BUT only available for USA and UK.
Waiting for french version.
thanks. Looks good. Graphics seem sharper as well
Nice App using it right now
Wow, this looks cewl!
btw, here's the cab if anyone's interested.
used it eariler..works great now time to use a gps bluetooth to get the real action going
bluetooth gps earthmate gps bt-20 works flawless with this.
will it install over existing rom live search? my old live search is in hemi's wm6.
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will it install over existing rom live search? my old live search is in hemi's wm6.
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If it is MS live search then yes (I removed mine first just in case) if its some other search you may have to remove it (via settings) first
Installed this new Live Search cab,no longer can use Live Search on Today screen
Yes the program works well after installation, but now I have lost the capability of searching from my Today screen Windows Live Search. Any hints at what I should do to fix? What ever I put in to the space for search, it comes back with a window " The file http://mobilelive.com/search etc etc" cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file".Never did use my Live Search on Today screen much , but now it bothers me not having it work. If I am not mistaken, it certainly didn't do the same type of searches that this new version is capable of doing. Can't remember whether it was configured to use Google search or not.. Anyways, somehow the installation buggered things up. Any ideas, I would be greatful for any recommendations. I did do SR, and even uninstalled the New cab, but ended up in a worse scenario, because I couldn't get my old version to work anymore. Looking for the string to change the Search URL to Google. I used to see it all the time, now I can't find it. Thought I would change the Search URL in Schaps Advanced config tool.
Just tried changing the Search string to use Google in regedit, and that did not help. Still can't do a Live search using Today screen search, or when I go to WLM using the search there. Anyone else experiencing this?
I have had no problems with mine. I installed the cab from the web site over the existing Live Search and it works great. I use live search , not Google so maybe that could be a problem. It almost sounds like the registry is messed up. I would reinstall the rom and then install live search again if you are going to use it.
Pre existing Live Search incorporated in WLM before this new one
I had WLM previous to overlaying this separate cab, so I didn't overlay on to a separate ,existing Live Search stand alone program.. Maybe this is why it didn't merge correctly into the WLM . I suppose that if I would have either deleted a previous separate Live Cab only and installed the new one , that might have made the difference.. Thanks
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Yes the program works well after installation, but now I have lost the capability of searching from my Today screen Windows Live Search. Any hints at what I should do to fix?
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The "Search" Today plug in is from Windows Live. (Pocket MSN replacement) Which is not the same as Live Search. Live Search can be download here from your phone: http://wls.live.com/ Look in your programs folder and see if you still have "Windows Live". If so launch it and go to menu /options / Today Screen options.
Thanks Gwelker62
Thanks for straightening me out on the differences. Hopefully helpful to others.
thanks! for those that haven't installed it or clicked the link to look at new features, besides voice recognition it also added gas prices. I haven't actually driven around to verify if they are accurate or not, but at first glance they seem pretty close
thank you so much for the heads up! the voice recognition is slick, but the new gas prices option is even better!
loving the voice recognition... you can just say the name of the place you're looking for and it'll find it.
One question on the BT GPS, will it have step by step navigation if you have a BT GPS? or does it only shows your location?
Gonna have some fun with this methinks...
And by the looks of things its gonna thrape my bandwidth allowance with Orange...
Edit: switching to aerial and zooming into my house I did 2mbyte of data in like a couple of minutes.
Edit2: Does HSDPA downloads use more battery than 3G downloads? I assume they use the same aerial, but does HSDPA use more power transmitting and receiving? I know 3G uses more than GPRS.
can't get voice recognition working here?
have I read somewhere it is a u.s only feature?
anyone in the u.k got it working?the box is greyed out on my app.
live search and gps
i just downloaded and installed the new voice recognition version of live search and paired it with my bluetooth solar gps logger and it works perfectly
to sush1a, you can do both, turn by turn directions, or it can show your location and show you (if you follow the blue line) where to go.
Anyone with an iPhone want to hack the Pandora application and see if we can get a version working on Windows Mobile?
You cant just take something from the iphone and port it to window mobile. I have been waiting forever for Pandora on my WM phone, but now I have it on my iPod......so I wouldn't hold out any hope that they will come out with something.
Yeah, I know - what I was hoping is that someone with the application could help us figure out the streaming protocol it uses, and then we could write a WM app to do the same thing. Maybe this is too difficult.
Sounds like a great idea. If it works over wifi the network traffic can be observed etc.
Surur
Dear lord!
Is Pandora still prohibited outside USA???
This is a real shame
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Dear lord!
Is Pandora still prohibited outside USA???
This is a real shame
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Huh? What does that have to do with the original question?
I wish. I love pandora but I can't have it on my phone. One real thing I am jealous about.
i've heard it works with the skyfire browser...but I'm getting the feeling I will never get into that beta. Isn't there a AT&T pandora program? I believe it's a pay to use feature however.
Maybe we should get in contact with the guy who made the standalone windows pandora app, seems it would be much easier to "port" that than an iphone app...which was a terrible suggestion by the way
Skyfire does not work- I have it.
I did email pandora just a couple of weeks ago and they have no plans to support the PPC
Have searched for the ATT install cab but no luck.
I FOUND THIS
i think it already works on some sprint phones as ic on this blod
http://blog.pandora.com/pandora/archives/2007/05/pandora_for_spr.html
There's a Last.FM for Windows Mobile that someone made, it's similar to Pandora. A quick search should turn it up/
Im going to open up pandora and shift though the code, and possibly write an WM6.1 application to intercept and login to their database just like the website.
-This is just an attempt, i will let everyone know the progress as it matures.
-zz
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Im going to open up pandora and shift though the code, and possibly write an WM6.1 application to intercept and login to their database just like the website.
-This is just an attempt, i will let everyone know the progress as it matures.
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awesome! hopefully you will have success! can't wait!
Well it seems after 3 hours of reading code and downloading every external javascript file, and decompiling the flash files, it turns out that Pandora has an API that isnt being released in wide array. And to my dismay, after 3hours, and not knowing enough of the AS language, i chose to wait until the Pandora APIv2 is publicly release (it has been release to a very few 3rd party companies - yahoo is one for example) to revisit pandora for wm.
-sorry, but like i said it was an attempt.
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Well it seems after 3 hours of reading code and downloading every external javascript file, and decompiling the flash files, it turns out that Pandora has an API that isnt being released in wide array. And to my dismay, after 3hours, and not knowing enough of the AS language, i chose to wait until the Pandora APIv2 is publicly release (it has been release to a very few 3rd party companies - yahoo is one for example) to revisit pandora for wm.
-sorry, but like i said it was an attempt.
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Thanks for trying
At the risk of sounding dumb, here are my half assembled thoughts lacking necessary sleep...
I know Alltel runs BREW, though I'm not sure about Sprint and ATT (not likely). ATT has more than just the iPhone running Pandora, and I'd assume that these phones are all running the program in Java. Otherwise the devs must like doing more work than necessary, or Pandora is trying to find a way to lock this down and make some money.
Is it possible to pull the program off a phone and run it on a WinMo JavaVM?
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Is it possible to pull the program off a phone and run it on a WinMo JavaVM?
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tried this, but no luck. if pandora outright doesn't plan to support windows mobile, they can go screw
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My thoughts exactly. Does someone have a RAZR, or another supported AT&T phone, who can visit the URL Pandora sends you?
(which is http:///www.pandora.com/att?)
It seems like Pandora might be a java app. If that's he case, it could easily be pulled from the phone's filesystem, once the "right" phone visited the website and downloaded the app. I'd try it myself with my old RAZR, but my wife nagged me when I upgraded and I threw it away.
EDIT: Yeah, I tried it also. It seems like the stock WinMo 6.1. JVM doesn't support some DRM-related features, so the midlet won't run.
I have the Razr V9M (My old phone). I can see if I can get the file(s). Someone needs to walk me thru which files you need and how to get them. If you want to compare files. If anyone is still trying to get this to work...
Pandora on my phone would rock.
Pandora Application on WM6
Did anybody else attempt to put Pandora in a .cab file besides Zeezee? Looking forward to find out if someone can do it for the WM6 and upload it somewhere.
AT&T 8525 with WM6 (VP3G)
i have google maps... i like it, does the job but i know theres gotta be better?
i tried nav4all and cant stand it really.. its ehh
amAze isnt bad, its funny it dont show gas stations or anything but it shows all the mom/pops type places you'd never think would show up, thats only thing i like bout it
and live search, it doesnt show certain **** right on the map but its got gas prices, restaurants, movies, etc i can search through and route so thats beautiful
but any others im missing?? i wanna try all the ones considered good or better and see what im feelin the best
I think you pretty much covered everything here. I use google maps and live search and they are pretty good. never tried amaze or nav4all but I've heard of them.
IMO, a combination of google maps and live search is the best you are going to find for free.
Although you may want to try out GPSToday. I havent used that in quite some time, but i enjoyed always having my exact location on my today screen. (before we had TF2D)
What about GPS that costs money?
I've recently been tryin Garmin Mobile XT.. not bad, it's sort of like Live Search to me, the only upside I've found so far is I like the map layout..
I did run into the problem of not being able to route my ****..
I think because the maps I downloaded for it weren't complete or somethin? It has all streets w/ names, it follows me on them directly, but if I set a route it will do a straight line to the place instead of taking streets
No biggie though I still have amAze, Live Search, and Google Maps..
I wanna try TomTom, is it worth it?
Or is there a clear cut "best" when it comes to paid for GPS software??
My girl and I both have vogue's, and I installed tomtom6 on hers, she likes the different funny voices available. I installed igo 8 on mine, I thought that the 3D was done a whole lot better. Tom Tom6 ran fine on hers always, I couldn't get igo8 to launch without having at least 70% memory free.
For me to use igo I would have to soft reset and make sure that was the only program running.
My verdict is TT6 is reliable but boring, gets the job done always and starts with no issues. Tons of free POI stuff out there.
iGo8 looks way better, but is pushing the vogue to the limit in terms of processing.
Both get you where you need to go easy-
Working on getting TT7 now-
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but any others im missing?? i wanna try all the ones considered good or better and see what im feelin the best
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Have you looked at GPSToday? Give it a shot. Some recently added features(which doesnt cut even half of it):
Driving/Walking directions in many countries, with traffic-optimization option.
Log file plotting on map and animated "playback". Also, the geologger will now never clip corners, and will perfectly follow loopy highway ramps. You can now also upload your log-files to the desktop website from within the app and export to GPX format.
Location Tracking and sharing (GeoLocation). Track your location history online for your own private use, or share with friends/family. The power-saving ability of GPSToday means you can leave it on indefinitely without worrying about the battery.
Easily and privately (or publicly) share points-of-interest, pictures, messages with like-minded folks (GeoGroups). eg. Track or update swine-flu locations, right from your phone. The possibilities are endless.
'Slideshow' through all your address-book contacts on the map, or through driving directions, or local search results, or all friends' mobile locations
Satellite,Hybrid map views, and many more enhancements for ease of use.
Nearly worldwide support for many features that were previously US only.
Update your twitter status manually from within the app. Just send a message to username 'twitter' via the Inbox in GPSToday.
Screenshots and download at: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-gpstoday-v0-9.html
or
http://www.geoterrestrial.com/ from desktop
http://m.geoterrestrial.com/ from phone
Thanks,
-The GeoTerrestrial Team
Just found this on the marketplace and I have to say... pretty awesome. This is what WP7 was missing. Although its clearly in the beta stage it is pretty good for a V 1.0.
A-to-B is a Turn-by-Turn application built to demonstrate some of the capabilities of the ArcGIS API for Windows Phone. Warning: The application is meant for demonstration purposes only! Do not rely solely on the suggested routes or instructions given by this application. Features: - Turn-by-turn routing. Sound notification when a turn is coming up. - Add often used destinations as favorites. - List of recent destinations. - "3D view" when in navigation mode with easy accessible "zoom in/out" buttons. - 2D Map for browsing the map supporting pinching, panning etc, and pick new destination by touch'n'hold on the map. - Easy accessible "Recalculate" button if you go off the route and need a new route from your current location (because of service restrictions, the app is not allowed to do this automatically). - Routes all over US (support for Europe coming in a future version). - Worldwide map (detail may vary).
You can read more about and get the marketplace download link here
Nice find I'll have to check it out.
And so I just did. I've been playing with this for an hour not bad, not bad at all I'm going to have it set up in the car on the way into work. I'll post how it does on the highway. But it gave the correct route that I take. But I want to see how it does when I'm actually driving.
Morton you made one very nice app wit a few minor tweeks this thing will rock well done dir well worth the effort
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Here's hoping for a UK map!
finally...very good
awesome find I can almost retire my Tilt2
Keep it coming guys, honestly I don't research the app market because I can get all reviews and such here at XDA
This indeed looks fantastic. One question though:
Which map is it actually using? This one has the outlines of every single house or building in my neighborhood and it is VERY accurate. I really like it.
Will it support pinch to zoom?
Partial support in the UK
Hi all
I have installed this on my phone in the UK as a trial. It works and in map mode I reasonable moving 3D map like any normal Sat-Nav. There is no car/arrow on the road to indicate precisely where I am, but the basic mechanics. It can't find any addresses in the UK so I guess that's not yet supported on the server side, but this application clearly has huge potential.
I think whoever gets there first with a fully functioning turn-by-turn sat nav in the marketplace is clearly on to a massive winner.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
On US 95 in MA I, had an arrow up showing my car. it had all the off ramps and had my destination pegged down perfect. Also there is a speed indicator I was doing 70 mph, it had me doing 71 I can handle that. Like said before, it could use a few tweaks here and there. But overall this Nav app is darn good.
It was pretty nice and accurate getting me to work this morning, but it couldn't figure out my home address. Kept on sending me to weird parts of town.
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...I was doing 70 mph, it had me doing 71 I can handle that.
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Maybe this sounds stupid, but how do you know you were doing 70mph? Using your car's speedometer? In which case, have you had it manually recalibrated? Usually a car's speedometer is not accurate (though it normally shows that you're going faster than you actually are).
I'm going to download this now, though I'd be interested in maps of UK and Australia, so I'm not sure how useful it will be to me yet.
Casey
Please release this for the UK - awesome stuff!!!!!
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Maybe this sounds stupid, but how do you know you were doing 70mph? Using your car's speedometer? In which case, have you had it manually recalibrated? Usually a car's speedometer is not accurate (though it normally shows that you're going faster than you actually are).
I'm going to download this now, though I'd be interested in maps of UK and Australia, so I'm not sure how useful it will be to me yet.
Casey
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Yes using my cars speedometer, and no I have not had it calibrated.
Hi all, it really looks amazing.. Is there any way I can see how it works when i am in Europe? I just want to see something like preview - e. g. select two destinations in USA and than see how it goes. Thanks
Fact of the day! - Generally, Sat-Nav's register a more accurate Speed than the average Car's Speedometer. Speedometer's are configured at manufacturing to register a faster speed than what the car is actually going, this is to compensate for Tyre wear and other wear-and-tear happenings that all cars suffer from over time.
What I have noticed about this so far as that if I'm zoomed in relatively close.. not SUPER close mind you, but maybe 2 or 3 zoom levels back from the closest zoom, that it doesnt actually register the map, says map data not yet available... shows the route the of the road... the path but not the surround streets, weird. This only happens in certain area's of the city I live in too, not all over. Its like the map data just isnt there which I find odd. Its not like its loading a satelite photo so I dont know why it would do this. I tried xmaps from the marketplace the other day and it didnt have this problem. Id understand if it was a satelite image as you cant zoom in close to those sometimes, I used to have that issue in google maps where you would zoom in and it would just say you were too close.
Otherwise I LOVE this thing and am so happy I found it in the market the other day. Just an awesome APP
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I noticed the Arrow is there, but hidden by the info at the bottom of the screen. Hopefully, an adjustment will fix that.
Also, Morten Nielsen's other App 'GuidePost' is pretty cool too!
Finally! Free TbT voice nav on WP7!
Guys, WP7 looks to become the leader of smartphones. The system is the best there is and now the features are appearing...albeit slowly.
Hey guys, came across this great article about jelly bean and I wonder what you guys think about it. I really agree with some of the points he makes.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/09/18/ux-things-i-hate-about-android/
Read this article as well and yes he does make some good and valid points. However, Android is still a work in progress according to Matias Duarte. As much as Jelly Bean has improved the user experience there is still a ways to go to polishing the OS.
Here is a good follow up article you might want to check out:
http://www.androidcentral.com/duarte-i-m-third-way-where-i-want-be-android
He makes some good points, but also shows that he doesn't seem to understand Android programming at all.
If you open something within an app directly from a widget (his Gmail example), then obviously the back key would go one layer higher within the app. Opening an email from a widget layers home->gmail->email, not home->email.
Also, icons opening the "wrong" app. He uses Maps and Latitude as an example. Well, considering that Latitude is built on the Maps framework (and presumably calls an instance of Maps in order to operate), it makes complete sense that opening Maps would open the active Latitude session when one exists.
Other items just seemed like whining. For example, the section regarding the Google Voice icon. He makes the base assumption that people use it primarily for texting when texting is certainly not the primary function of the app. The app's primary function is voicemail, followed closely by VOIP calling. Texting is easily a tertiary function, even if it has been embraced by the community. [Edit: As mentioned below, I was incorrect regarding VOIP, which would make texting the secondary function of the app.]
Don't get me wrong. There were some good points, but I was shaking my head through a lot of that article.
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The app's primary function is voicemail, followed closely by VOIP calling.
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there is no voip from the google voice app itself. when you make a call with it, it basically calls the GV number + the number you are actually wanting to call.
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there is no voip from the google voice app itself. when you make a call with it, it basically calls the GV number + the number you are actually wanting to call.
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My mistake. I assumed it was VOIP rather than call-chaining, based on the app prompting if Voice should be used for international calls. So at that point, texting would become the secondary function.
Thanks for the info.
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He makes some good points, but also shows that he doesn't seem to understand Android programming at all.
If you open something within an app directly from a widget (his Gmail example), then obviously the back key would go one layer higher within the app. Opening an email from a widget layers home->gmail->email, not home->email.
Also, icons opening the "wrong" app. He uses Maps and Latitude as an example. Well, considering that Latitude is built on the Maps framework (and presumably calls an instance of Maps in order to operate), it makes complete sense that opening Maps would open the active Latitude session when one exists.
Other items just seemed like whining. For example, the section regarding the Google Voice icon. He makes the base assumption that people use it primarily for texting when texting is certainly not the primary function of the app. The app's primary function is voicemail, followed closely by VOIP calling. Texting is easily a tertiary function, even if it has been embraced by the community.
Don't get me wrong. There were some good points, but I was shaking my head through a lot of that article.
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Although you are totally right, you have to look at it from a consumer's point of view. And they won't think "hey, of course the back button goes to the underlying Gmail menu", they'll think "wtf.? I was on the home screen before I tapped that mail on the widget. Why did it take me into the Gmail overview now?"
The same is even more true for Latitude. It is obvious for us tech-enthusiasts that Latitude is just more or less a part of maps. But I guess most other people never even give a thought to this, so they're just confused why the Maps icon would open a (seemingly) completely different service.
Also I'm sure the author of the article knows all this as well as anybody. But he tries to look from the consumer's point of view.
To the article: I mostly agree with his points. Play store not remembering my scroll position and the different sizes of some icons (and even more the almost overlapping icon names sometimes) are things that bugged me too. But mixed UI designs and that calculator bug are just things that happen if you roll out such a major update with significant UI changes. It's nothing I get even slightly mad about.
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Although you are totally right, you have to look at it from a consumer's point of view. And they won't think "hey, of course the back button goes to the underlying Gmail menu", they'll think "wtf.? I was on the home screen before I tapped that mail on the widget. Why did it take me into the Gmail overview now?"
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I can understand it from a consumer's point of view, but how would it be resolved programmatically? If we start requiring a pointer to where a screen was opened from, you increase the memory footprint of every app. It might also cause some problems with app deconstruction. In the Gmail example, pressing the back button deconstructs the single email instance, but if a pointer were to tell it to go back to the home screen because we got to it from a widget, do we deconstruct the base Gmail app also? What if the widget puts you 4 layers into an app? Not only would the pointers again add to the app's memory footprint, but we have the deconstruction issue on a larger level.
I'm not the greatest programmer (especially in Java), but the "inelegant" way that it works now seems to have a few positives for both devs and users.
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The same is even more true for Latitude. It is obvious for us tech-enthusiasts that Latitude is just more or less a part of maps. But I guess most other people never even give a thought to this, so they're just confused why the Maps icon would open a (seemingly) completely different service.
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Again, I understand the consumer side of things, but is Maps opening Latitude more confusing than having Maps kill off Latitude? The user would then just try to re-open Latitude and be confused as to why the prior instance wasn't running. If Maps wouldn't kill off Latitude, then it would have to create a second instance of itself, which again has a negative impact on the app's memory footprint.
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I understand a general "hey, it should work like this instead", but there are plenty of reasons why it works the way it does now. Android might be able to get "perfect" functionality, but it would likely require some dumbing down of multitasking (either more process suspension instead of true(r) multitasking or the memory manager would be more likely to kill off background processes). I don't at all doubt these are discussions going on at Google, though.
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I understand a general "hey, it should work like this instead", but there are plenty of reasons why it works the way it does now. Android might be able to get "perfect" functionality, but it would likely require some dumbing down of multitasking (either more process suspension instead of true(r) multitasking or the memory manager would be more likely to kill off background processes). I don't at all doubt these are discussions going on at Google, though.
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Thanks Cilraaz, you really shed some light upon the deeper reasons for the sometimes odd behaviour of the back button and app layers. I'm no programmer at all, so I didn't know all this would add to the memory footprint of the apps and would affect developing in such a major way.
After reading your post I suggest we can be happy with some minor incosistencies and enjoy true multitasking instead of dumbing down our phones Again thanks for your nice clarification!
Some good stuff in this thread.
"complains about back button not taking him home, doesn't use home button"
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That's not what he complained about. He complained about the back button behaving inconsistently.
I find it actually works very logically. If i click on one email in my widget to read it and then use the back button to go back, it makes sense to be taken to my inbox so i can read more messages, instead of being taken back to home screen and selecting a new email from there. Its more practical in case you get like 10 emails at one, which won´t fit in the widget all at once anyway. If i wanted to go back to the home screen, hey there is the home button.
That sounds like one corner case where the behaviour works in your favor, that doesn't mean it's right. It used to work better. For example if you have Navigation open, and select and email from the notification then you are brought to the email. Then when you hit back it brings you to your Inbox (which you have no reason to go to) then when you hit back again it brings you to your home screen. In previous versions of Android when you hit back from the email you are reading it would take you directly back to Navigation. That is what you most likely want, and that is what the Android documentation says should happen. But all too often it does not.
Totally agree with this article. I love Jelly Bean, and Android, but ultimately, it lacks a hell of a lot of polish. This is where iOS is still leagues ahead (and for that matter, so is WP7/8), I forgive it because it is a very open and powerful platform, but it is still a platform for the techie, and has a long way to go before it is as friendly and approachable as its rivals IMO.
The same sorts of arguments have been leveled at PCs for years and are equally valid.
Like it or not, most people AREN'T techies and this is why the likes of Apple are so successful, because they understand this and bring out an OS that is generally intuitive to average joe. Ironically I find some of the ways their software works confusing in places (particularly OSX) but that is more down to my "techie" approach and being set in my ways, as most techies are.
Well, he has some valid ponts, but most of the time, he is wrong. Especially for the back button.
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Well, he has some valid ponts, but most of the time, he is wrong. Especially for the back button.
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Could you please tell me how he is wrong, specially if Android documentation says that the function of back button is X, and, sometimes you get Y, sometimes you get Z, and sometimes you get X?
Either document that back button has a bunch of functions that no one knows until you use it in a given context with a given app, or, give it a consistent behavior (and I'm not discussing which one would be better).... It is understandable when 3rd party software doesn't behave 100% as documented, but, built in phone apps should be consistent and provide the same experience...
Great article. A lot of those things drive me nuts, the icon size and back button in particular.
Another annoying thing the back button does is, for example, if you have been using the Play Store before, then you open an app that links to a Play Store page. Once you have seen the page and press back, rather than it taking you back to the app, the back button will just traverse through all the pages that you have been looking at on the Play Store in your previous session.
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pfmiller said:
That sounds like one corner case where the behaviour works in your favor, that doesn't mean it's right. It used to work better. For example if you have Navigation open, and select and email from the notification then you are brought to the email. Then when you hit back it brings you to your Inbox (which you have no reason to go to) then when you hit back again it brings you to your home screen. In previous versions of Android when you hit back from the email you are reading it would take you directly back to Navigation. That is what you most likely want, and that is what the Android documentation says should happen. But all too often it does not.
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Maybe the "back" button should be replaced by a "higher level" (hope it's the right term ) button. Maybe in this case his function would be more logical.
However I agree on almost every point in the article