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Anyone moved from XDA mini s? Hows the lack of keyboard?

Hi Everyone,
I'm using the xda mini s at the moment and love it. Would obviously really like to add integrated GPS though.
3G is of little interest to me, so the Orbit looks perfect.
Only problem...no keyboard. How have you guys got round that? I simply cannot be bothered to always use the stylus.....will it be pointless for me then? Or have they managed to create a good alternative.
Would appreciate anyones views and experiences.
Thanks
HPJ

well i dont have orbit however played with it for a while when my friend got one.
What can i say. Trackball and wheel solution are good, imo much better to navigate phone then normal joypad.
However. It doesnt have a keyboard
So already having external Bluetooth gps i see no reason why i would buy orbit instead of hunting for htc herald which is the same factor but with keyboard...
And that would be ( and in fact will be ) my choice. Of course question now where to get herald from as it retails for £300+... i would just wait until my upgrade time comes and buy something else and sell it in order to finance new herald.

I had a wizard before the Orbit. Have to admit that I do miss the "real" keyboard and havent really found an on screen keyboard that makes entering text as easy. I did only use it occasionally though and love the size and look of the Orbit so it seems to more than make up for it in my opinion.

Hi, I've recently upgraded from a Mini S to the Orbit.
I've not really missed the keyboard, but I guess it depends on how you use the device. I've installed the T9 phonepad .cab file that's available on here & I use that for sending text messages. Why the hell it wasn't included as standard I have no idea - seems daft cos if i remember correctly, it is included on the Mini S :s
If you use your device to enter a lot of text though, e.g. sending emails or using it to edit word documents, then you might find the on-screen keyboard very fiddly to use.

I manage to successfully type on the software keyboard with my two thumbs using the Xda Orbit in landscape mode, I make a few errors but I'm used to making and correcting those on a PC keyboard anyway so I get by. Something the same size of the Orbit with a slide out keyboard would be awesome but at the moment I can't see how it would be realistic.

The Orbit is SOOO much better. It's much slimmer so doesn't feel like such a brick (imagine the mini s minus the whole top screen section (the silver bit)
I also installed phonepad and it works well. Built in gps and slimmer phone are the key factors for me
It also has start menu and ok keys on the front, so 1 handed operation is good
If the keyboard was a real issue, I would use SPB full keyboard - check that out if you have concerns

Excellent feedback, thanks everyone.
Think it sounds worth it...think I'll make the move.
Also checked out that SPB keyboard. Looks great.
Will let you know how I get on (in case anyone else is in the same position)
Cheers
HPJ

I too am making the move from my mini s... gald to be leaving th bulk behind.
i am torn between the trinity or the artemis ... i was wondering on what you guys know about this sd card problem if you'd recommen going for the trinity instead... only thing it seems to lack is the fm radio!
any thoughts?

chickyd said:
I too am making the move from my mini s... gald to be leaving th bulk behind.
i am torn between the trinity or the artemis ... i was wondering on what you guys know about this sd card problem if you'd recommen going for the trinity instead... only thing it seems to lack is the fm radio!
any thoughts?
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SD card problem is affecting all the devices You may check the forums.

I have just contacted O2 to send back my mini s (wizard) and
I am getting an orbit instead. My old phone is a magician, and when I got the mini s, I was really disappointed!
Obviously it has features such as wifi etc that my magician didn't have, but it was a big clunky plasticy slow monstrosity.
I realised that I actually preferred my magician, so I got straight on the phone to O2.
Ok, rant over. The point of this is that I didn't appreciate the keyboard on the mini S at all. I have spb fullscreen keyboard and spb pocketplus on my magician, and I never ever have to use the stylus. I set the icons on the pocketplus today screen to large, and use the soft keyboard for texting etc.
The keyboard for me makes the device practical, I don't think I'd still have a pda phone if I hadn't discovered it.
I actually dropped my stylus at my friend's house and wasn't aware that it was missing until she returned it to me nearly three weeks later...
By the way, I don't work for spb or anything lol!
If you read about the apple iphone, you'll see that they have done away with the stylus by using a similar interface.
Obviously the way to go!

I've always used the letter recogniser on XDA's find the on screen keyboards clumbersome.
My other half hates the bulk of the keyboard on her Mini.

I've moved from the Mini-S to XDA orbit. Full screen keyboard is ok, but I find it a little cumbersome.
I've just discovered the International T9 Phonepad from this very forum, and it works a treat, well, once I discovered "Tab" was "space" anyway!! Great for notes and calendar entries, and makes one-handed text entry a real possibility. Definately worth a try!

official htc 3.54 ger rom problems

hy all. after using this rom for a month now i ran into several probs.
1) when i lock my tytn, and someone calls me, i cant answer the call, then i cant unlock the phone because the unlock in the lower left corner is replaced by the lost call notification. the first half of the month i have this problem not very often, but now i have it on every call. so i loose every call, the SR, then unlock, then call back. (really cool this problem)
2) bluetooth worked fine, but now i cant enable it without doing a SR before enabling it.
3) omg, it is so slow after a month of use! i SR nearly every day, i delete temps with cleartemp, but its so slow now. for example, when i write a new message, and then switch to landscape, i think i have to wait about 20-30 secs, before its rendered. and the same after sending sms and switching back to portrait home screen.
4) sometimes it looks like everything is ok, but when i try to tab something a realise, that my tytn is completly dead. (i have bought a second mobile phone and use it, when the tytn is dead. and what i want to say o this bug: nice piece of software ms! i feel like an alpha tester for ms! but i had to pay for it. )
all these bugs appeared after a few weeks!
installed software:
pocketrar (newest)
htc task manager 1.51
htc music plugin 1.0
adobe reader 2
cleartemp (newest)
emil andersson pocket sudoku
i hope some ms devs read this thread, think about it and learn something for the future.
regards chief

Why not giving one of mine a try (look in my signature)??
Most that use them are excited of the speed
Olioaglio

Chiefcooker said:
... i hope some ms devs read this thread, think about it and learn something for the future.
regards chief
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I am running the same T-Mobile Germany ROM and have no such issues! It looks to me like your device is running out of memory! How much memory is still available on your device? Where did you install your apps - phone or card?
Try to run your device without the TASK MANAGER for a while, maybe that is what is eating your memory ...

Junner2003 said:
I am running the same T-Mobile Germany ROM and have no such issues! It looks to me like your device is running out of memory! How much memory is still available on your device? Where did you install your apps - phone or card?
Try to run your device without the TASK MANAGER for a while, maybe that is what is eating your memory ...
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hi, i have installed the apps in unlocked extrom.
and i dont have the tmobile version, i have the original htc german version.

Olioaglio said:
Why not giving one of mine a try (look in my signature)??
Most that use them are excited of the speed
Olioaglio
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i have used schaps 3.54 ger rom a long time, and i had many probs with bluetooth too with this rom, and your rom is based on it, but i think i'll try the superstoragerom. looks really good. gut gemacht! der inhalt von pro home sieht ja cool aus.
mfg chief

6.1, keyboard and another newbie problems

So, I got used Hermes cheap and it's my (almost) first PDA. So, I am kinda newbie and I ran to a few problems.
So, first of all, here's my biggest problem. I got a Hermes with different keyboard than in manual. I have used search and found a picture, so my keyboard looks like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29735&d=1155484079
I tried various methods for changing my keyboard layout, but no success. I need a keyboard to type sms fast, however I should memorise all the characters or to use stylus.
Also, I am new to PDA, but I'd like to try some fast custom 6.1 ROM. I successfully flashed to 21109_Manila2D_Opera.rar, however I wonder if newer = better. What do you suggest for a beginner?
I think that these questions are quite often and you're probably tired of answering this. However, it would be great if you could help me with my problems.

Ok, here I am again. After a few hour sleep (I was tired from school), I found a solution.
I used JLAs dynamic build, which I can complement for being fast, stable and solid-looking. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446608
And I changed my keyboard layout to Swedish with advanced config. Now it all works fine.
Sorry to bother you, please delete or lock this thread.

Htc touch hd keyboard problems

Hy,
I havent found simmilar problems to mine on any past thread, so I opened this one. If a thread with simmilar problem does exist, I apologize in advance.
My problem:
I downloaded and instaled new keyboard on my touch hd , called "touch input" which is originaly instaled in touch diamond 2 and touch pro 2.
I've seen a video on pocketnow.com, that it is compatibile also for HD, link: http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6918
, so I downloaded it from here:
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6918
When i instaled it, it totaly messed up my previous original keyboard, so i've uninstaled it, and with that action I lost also the original touch HD keyboard (compact qwerty, phone pad, ful qwerty). Whenever I try to run one of those keyboards, phone just freezes (does not open it).
I use third party keyboard (SPB) that still works. But I would like my original (touch hd) keyboard back, without HARD RESETing the phone if its posssible. is there a file that makes this possible?
Did I screwed other programs on my phone also with my action or can it influenced the device's performance generaly?
For you answers and help I thank you all in advance...

no one to help?!
The keyboard that screwed my original one, was downloaded from here actualy:
http://www.4shared.com/file/88843093/f25db617/BJK_HTC_EzInput2_WVGA_NoKbd_0409-B1_2.html

i tried **** loads of application in my htc touch hd and keyboards aswell even finger keyboard showed some problem but spb stuff are cool spb keyboard is best i feel..

I used my touch hd during the day and downloaded few apps on it such as change screen 2.7, core player 1.3.2, RaphHighResPanorama and Tesalat Metal V2 Theme. They all worked fine for hours until few minutes ago when I was about to send an SMS. I had lost my keyboard except numpad with letter p and w on it. What's going on? Tried soft reset without any changes. I'm running HSPL 1.56.OliNex + Miri's WM 6.5.
Edit: Dunno what went wrong, but got it sorted out by reflashing rom.

i got the same problem and didnt find a solution. Could any rom-rooker upload the cab for the htc keyboard 2.0, so we can overwrite the existent files, to fix the failure.
thx for help

Hard reset will do the work

Valti, this tipp isnt verry usefull, because i want to have my actual rom, with all my settings and appz AND a full functional keyboard.
That a hardreset solves the problem is logic.
Hmmmpf ...

dajhoony, after HR you will have the same ROM, which is installed now.
then you will have to install again additional apps and progs.

i know that. and i know, that it is much, much work to reinstall all my aooz, including all my registry optimization, my skins, my symbols, my ... my ... my ...
So, thanx again for this great answer, that a HARD RESET repairs the problem.
But i am looking for a solution, to reinstall the HTC Keyboard 2.0,m because Dutty knows allready the problem with the HTC Keyboard v2.1.
So, if i would do a hard reset, the failure comes again and i DONT WANT THAT.
So, plz .. only posts with help to install HTC Keyboard v2.0.
Thx for all followers.

dajhoony said:
i know that. and i know, that it is much, much work to reinstall all my aooz, including all my registry optimization, my skins, my symbols, my ... my ... my ...
So, thanx again for this great answer, that a HARD RESET repairs the problem.
But i am looking for a solution, to reinstall the HTC Keyboard 2.0,m because Dutty knows allready the problem with the HTC Keyboard v2.1.
So, if i would do a hard reset, the failure comes again and i DONT WANT THAT.
So, plz .. only posts with help to install HTC Keyboard v2.0.
Thx for all followers.
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As an interim solution I would suggest you (if on your keyboard you use English only!) - install FingerKeyboard 2.1, in checkboxes tik "En" (as an options can check "suggest names for SMS) and then install this CAB attached in the next post.
You will have a beautiful YOTA keyboard with arrows

Here is the CAB:

i will try. verry nice idea. thanx for help!!!!!!!

[Q] hardware keyboard problem

in my tp2 when tap the "Z" write "Y" and many "Fn" are not in line. the htc say my device is nordic, my rom is ita.
sorry for my english

gitano6019 said:
in my tp2 when tap the "Z" write "Y" and many "Fn" are not in line. the htc say my device is nordic, my rom is ita.
sorry for my english
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Are you using the Nordic physkeyboard setting...?
Code:
physkeyboard=rhod100_nordic

yes, i think but i don't now what i can do!

gitano6019 said:
yes, i think but i don't now what i can do!
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Whoops, sometimes I can put the blinders on. That's an Android thing on our port of Android... Doesn't have anything to do with WinMo.
If you're experiencing this issue in WinMo, I think there's a cab you can install to remedy it. I don't have a link handy, I'll try to find one.
Edit - first, I would make sure you didn't install an Italian ROM on a Nordic RHOD. That might be the source of your issues.
Other than that, you can see if this key remapper tool will help. It might.

I apologize, I think you're right, you installed a Nordic Roma Italian of Rhodia. I just bought on ebay because I like and has a fair price. and I saw that was brought Android on it. I'm looking to set it up (in my free time) and use it well, but as you see my English is not my best and try to understand as much as possible before doing damage. I saw your build and I find it interesting, but I did not understand, for example if I set I startup.txt to overclock or does it automatically?
and then these days I found myself having problems with wifi. I can not connect decent. I tried changing the radio, but I often just walk away from the router the speed does not exceed 1 Mbps RX and I lose the connection.

gitano6019 said:
I apologize, I think you're right, you installed a Nordic Roma Italian of Rhodia. I just bought on ebay because I like and has a fair price. and I saw that was brought Android on it. I'm looking to set it up (in my free time) and use it well, but as you see my English is not my best and try to understand as much as possible before doing damage. I saw your build and I find it interesting, but I did not understand, for example if I set I startup.txt to overclock or does it automatically?
and then these days I found myself having problems with wifi. I can not connect decent. I tried changing the radio, but I often just walk away from the router the speed does not exceed 1 Mbps RX and I lose the connection.
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Ask Android questions in the Android section please. My fault for mixing them up previously... I wouldn't worry about damage tho - worst thing that could happen is your SD card might get destroyed, but I was running for over a year on the same card, no problems. Card still works great. There's literally no risk to the phone itself - reboot the phone, and it goes right back to WinMo.
As for wifi, I assume the issue with wifi is in WinMo? I don't know, I can't really help you there. I would try other AP's, make sure it's not your AP.

hardware problem with windows
Hello there,
I have HTC TP2 mobile few days (not new). It has Windows Mobile 6.5 energyROM installed and also Android on the SD card.
When I am using hardware keyboard with WM, it has problems with FN (it works ash SHIFT) and shift(CAPS) don´work anytime.
But when I switch to android - everything is OK. So it is not hardware problem, but WM problem, I think. Can anybody help?
Thank you.

Damocles_CZ said:
Hello there,
I have HTC TP2 mobile few days (not new). It has Windows Mobile 6.5 energyROM installed and also Android on the SD card.
When I am using hardware keyboard with WM, it has problems with FN (it works ash SHIFT) and shift(CAPS) don´work anytime.
But when I switch to android - everything is OK. So it is not hardware problem, but WM problem, I think. Can anybody help?
Thank you.
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I would reflash, and make sure if there's any specific cabs you need to install after the fact, you do it.
For example, on my Sprint RHOD400, if I didn't install a 'keyboard fix' cab after flashing WinMo there were a few keys that were off/non-functional. Been a while since I've used WinMo really at all, but if I recall correctly they were different than the keys you're having issues with.

arrrghhh said:
I would reflash, and make sure if there's any specific cabs you need to install after the fact, you do it.
For example, on my Sprint RHOD400, if I didn't install a 'keyboard fix' cab after flashing WinMo there were a few keys that were off/non-functional. Been a while since I've used WinMo really at all, but if I recall correctly they were different than the keys you're having issues with.
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I have to say, I am a totally newbie in this. I bought this phone few days ago through internet auction. I know it is flashed at that ROM above. But I don´t know anything more about it. I am a newbie in HTC - windows mobile (until this I used Nokia, lol). So I don´t know anything about flashing, cabs etc. and don´t know, if my english is so good to understand all this from forums here

Damocles_CZ said:
I have to say, I am a totally newbie in this. I bought this phone few days ago through internet auction. I know it is flashed at that ROM above. But I don´t know anything more about it. I am a newbie in HTC - windows mobile (until this I used Nokia, lol). So I don´t know anything about flashing, cabs etc. and don´t know, if my english is so good to understand all this from forums here
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Read, read, read. You have to be somewhat self-sufficient here - unless you have the exact same phone and carrier as me, I won't be able to hold your hand. Besides, you learn nothing by having someone hold your hand.
There's tons of threads and articles here on WinMo. Use that search button and poke around the WinMo development section.