Touch Flo 3D for Artemis is possible?
Hasn't this been answered like a thousand times? TouchFlo 3D as found in the Touch Diamond requires a VGA display, hardware based graphics acceleration, and probably more than 64K. So, no, it is not possible.
Whether a stripped down version of TouchFlo 3D will be released for older devices, I don't know, but I seriously doubt it. Cheers.
in this thread they tried to install manila QVGA on Artemis Meschele Rom look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363500&page=23
take it easy ... this is a testing manila it is still slow , i think that next monthh there will be for sure a QVGA stable version
Touch Flo 3d
Hey guys,
i got it on my Artemis, the problem now is there is very little interest (it seems) in continuing the development because of speed issues.
it is worthwhile to check back all because some touch flo features do work.
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Hi,
as many of you allready know, HTC released the new HTC Touch as a response to Apple's iPhone.
I looked at some videos on youtube and some technical specs of the phone.. and it simply seems a program that runs on a WM6. So it shouldn't be some difficult to port it to other devices, I don't think that the HTC Touch has some special hardware or touchscreen.
The only thing I read is that it has different touchscreen drivers, but that shouldn't be a problem: I already saw here on xda-dev many other ports or programming miracles
Ok it's a program native for QVGA... that sucks and could possibly cause many problems to port it on the Universal.
It could also be that it wouldn't have decent performance playing the animantions (page flip,...) because of the VGA resolution.
I don't know.... but I would like to create this thread in order to see the progress and the news of the Touch Technology (let's call it so) port on Universal.
Helmi, Midget and all other gurus of the universal... please help us with this cool Touch Tech
Videos of the HTC Touch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI9h3TRndhY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj8PMcvYTZo
...and here is some basic infos and some dumps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311225
I've to say that the today plugin and the rest of the menus are very similar to Spb Mobile Shell... the only thing more are the gestures that you can make on the touchscreen and the animations between the menus.
Ok let's go!
We'll see how it goes on now
So...
It's kinda just a new interface for Windows Mobile?
Yep
markymanxxx said:
So...
It's kinda just a new interface for Windows Mobile?
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Yep I think so too. It doesn't seem to me that there are significant hardware differences between the HTC Touch and other PocketPCs.
But let's wait and see what our gurus say to it
Sorry to dissapoint....
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys & gals, but over at the Athena and Hermes forums and some others over at 4winmobile have been looking into this for some time now and there is a major difference other than the .dll driver.
The Touch has a new technology screen that is completely different from what has been in PPC's before. Most of the software can be ported from the HTC Touch/Elf, and will work on QVGA WM5/6 devices and some conversions will be necessary for our VGA devices, but the actual Cube Touch GUI will NOT work without the right hardware.
see here for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310459&page=3
mackaby007 said:
Been following a cool thread over at 4winmobile.com about the whole HTC Touch themes, cabs and interface etc...Looks like everything else is transferable, except the cube GUI, as......
Also...
Sorry peeps. Looks like new screen hardware after all But no one is giving up on an alternative.
Anyway, take a look at that thread anyway as it is very interesting all the same.
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/hermes-black-rom-announcements/9739-black-iv-shadow-preview.html
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have to confirm that it is new hardware, and that the plugins/programs have the resolution hard-coded into them so nothing useful for our uni yet...
interestingly enough though the biotouch (what they call it) calls use native windows mobile dll's (albeit new functions that previously were not in there, so we can speculate that this isnt a one off and more devices will be seen with these type of screens)
dll's and VGA
Basically when I see how they use this touchscreen I see no big difference between an old one.
For the cube GUI the system has only to recognize a "touch & drag" on the screen. If this function isn't in our dll's they could somehow be ported on our uni
But the most big problem I see is the VGA resolution.....
Anyone knows the HTC Touch specs? Has it some new and high performance graphic chip (perhaps nvidia or something similar?)
Because we have to consider that VGA = 4x QVGA (number of pixels) and as I know our beatuful Uni hasn't a luxus graphic processor. I remember some benchmarks and compared to other devices it had a somehow slower graphic chip.
I'm afraid that if we can port the gui to Uni on VGA it won't work with decent performance
Does anyone know more of the Cube GUI? Is it precalculated (only an animation) or is it a realtime rapresentation of the current objects flipping over the faces of a cube?
To be honest I think it's precalculated graphics... Why make it realtime and performance-cost? The cube turns very fast and it would very difficult to see the difference between a simple animation and a real 3d rendering.
And when we think how many open processes a user has on his pocketpc; I could easly imagine that if we only were listening to music with an mp3 player, with a resident antivirus (lol) and some other background apps....the cube would have big problems to be rendered at a decent framerate.
Ok these are only speculations, I have no idea of how the HTC Touch really works. I only saw the youtube presentation
If the cube won't be ported on Uni... I'll wait for someone to adapt Beryl for PocketPC eheheheh lol
Go on folks...
Greets
Touch on..... Prophet.
I made some changes in touch rom and it can run on my prophet, but i have alot of bugs like battery bug and touchscreen bug.
Silver_Gost said:
I made some changes in touch rom and it can run on my prophet, but i have alot of bugs like battery bug and touchscreen bug.
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Does the cube GUI work (even partially) ?
are there no news for the Universal??
I'm runing successful Touch Flo on Hermes (SoftBank X01HT + cacahuate´s WM6 rom cch3.0), pls view demo on : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QiwdY14NC8
Thanks delcamahueto, the next room version u can add Touch flo & Touched diale2.
Thanks so much delcamahue about good room version.
GR8
When can we have it?
This is buttonflow again.
wow.....
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i hate button flo ^^
This guy has a Qtex 9100 and WM6 and tiuch flo working.
see for your self: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd8zuA-5OEY&mode=related&search=
Why doesnt it work on the HTC Hermes?
Cesco said:
This guy has a Qtex 9100 and WM6 and tiuch flo working.
see for your self: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd8zuA-5OEY&mode=related&search=
Why doesnt it work on the HTC Hermes?
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Because no Hermesdeveloper has been able to make it work with the Hermes touchscreen driver, which apparently is differnt. It's also obvious in this demo how poorly the touch screen reacts to the use of the thumb. I'm no expert but I guess screensdrivers are optimized for use with stylus (small area, high pressure, thumb big area less pressure).
Simply amazing.
I have the wing originally, so I have all the touch flo stuff on it, now my friend ass the Herms and she would like me to make it similar to mines with all the tochflo stuff, so my question is does any of the roms here have touchflo included.
Thanks you
I don't think that's possible.
The Hermes and the Touch use different hardware, with the Touch having a more sensitive screen. However, there are some cosmetic changes...
It might be best to ask this in the Hermes part of the forum.
You can get the EFrost for the TouchFLO effect, and the Kona or Slither TouchCube for the Cube. Cabs are available. Do a search and you should find these.
Check this out
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=46294
does someonae has the new HTC touch 3d........-----
I WANT IT.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
isnt it only for htc touch diamond?
It isn't out yet. The 3d Touchflo Interface debuts with the HTC Diamond. Should be out by June/July.
I forgot to mention that the 3d Touchflo Interface demands better hardware and memory than most of the devices any of us has currently. The chances that it will run smoothly with our devices are very slim.
I think its a little sluggish on Touch Diamond itseld from what Ive heard from some of those who attended the press event.
Imagining it on Artemis could only be a joke.. It requires a GPU. And it also looks like this application has a lot of locks preventing cookers from porting. But still XDA-dev has much better hackers to overcome those. Lets wait for the devices on the market first.
Regards,
Carty..
here is a couple of words...i'd like to have 3d,but i suppose its not possible
However, a TouchFLO 3D upgrade for current HTC Touch smartphones (like the Touch, Touch Dual or Touch Cruise) isn't planned due to increased and changed hardware requirements.
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if this was called HTC manila when it was in the development stage then i hav a ver of this(cab file) which is meant for VGA screen PPCs only
fair does that phone looks stunning,i was gonna get the orbit 2, but the diamond is much faster and better looking, quite looking forward to this one
After see Pontui Home runing so smoothly on my Artemis, I have a little hope that this programa will not demand a Hi-end hardware to run. I HOPE!!!
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After see Pontui Home runing so smoothly on my Artemis, I have a little hope that this programa will not demand a Hi-end hardware to run. I HOPE!!!
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that same . too
CAB File
Can you post this CAB file?
sheennick123456:
if this was called HTC manila when it was in the development stage then i hav a ver of this(cab file) which is meant for VGA screen PPCs only
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HTC manila AKA touch flo 3D
here you go
http://www.4shared.com/file/47016031/5436a738/manila1001030release.html
i checked it........it is the same user interface tht is in the htc diamond
but remember it is only for VGA ppcs n wont work on artemis
some people hav tried it on various VGA ppcs n the app runs only on HTC made ppcs(doesnt work on O2 XDA flame)
u may get framerates like 10-15fps
I have a X50v that's with my friend. I'll make a try...
Hi, In this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363500&page=14
a developer called dobb try to adapt the manila VGA to QVGA and release a version alpha and beta that works in the qvga devices but obviously run slow and need to adapt the soft buttons. You can install the cab of VGA version and the dll's, thus overwrite the files in manila folder with the alpha or beta version of QVGA.(This version need to polish more)
The version posted for sheennick123456 was a beta of touchflo3d leaked in january 2008, and with greater reason, the actual version should run faster.
I have no doubt that any developer here not only achieved by extracting the touchflo3d but also the driver to run correctly.
Think about that:
When "Touch" released, HTC said the touchflo could only run on those Devices because of the special hardware (screen), but there are many of us who run the touchflo in our Artemis without such hardware (screen).
Greetings
really it isn't working... i installed it and i don't know how to uninstall.. anybody??
it creates a folder named manila somewhere in the device memory
i dont recollect the exact path but i guess it is in the my documents
all u have to do is delete this folder
If you want to uninstall you have to:
delete the folder in Program Files/Manila
delete all registry in HKLM/software/microsoft/today/items/manila
delete manilatoday.dll in windows folder
I tried in my artemis and works slowly but the second beta needs more work.
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If you want to uninstall you have to:
delete the folder in Program Files/Manila
delete all registry in HKLM/software/microsoft/today/items/manila
delete manilatoday.dll in windows folder
I tried in my artemis and works slowly but the second beta needs more work.
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that's what i did on "blind" thanks anyway... let's hope that some of the "gods" over here will adjust it for Artemis
Dont works on Kaiser WM6....
I have one, battery sucks. it's ok kinda hard to get around
cvenk said:
Check this out
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=46294
does someonae has the new HTC touch 3d........-----
I WANT IT.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I have one it'ss hard to move around and remember keys, battery sucks too,
I see that htc have released a new version of Touch Flo 3D (version 2.5), which looks fantastic.
I would like to know if anyone believes that we will be able to get this to work on the Toch Diamond, or will I have to buy the htc Hero to benefit from this kind of interface ?
Regards
Chad
Well now it's being ported to VGA, it would probably eat up a lot of RAM but it probably would work.
Wow! It's already being ported?
How much ram compared with native Diamond manilla or yoz 2.1?
I think yoz 2.1 is already the limit that Diamond1 can have to be able to successful use more than one program at time or run a GPS program.
flitzjoy said:
How much ram compared with native Diamond manilla or yoz 2.1?
I think yoz 2.1 is already the limit that Diamond1 can have to be able to successful use more than one program at time or run a GPS program.
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Firstly, Why is this thread in ROM development? I hardly think TF3D 2.5 has anything to do with Diamond ROMs... Come on guys... That and TF3D 2.6 has already been previewed.
In response to your questions flitzjoy how can we know? It's not on the Diamond yet. It's not ported to VGA. So we can't tell yet.
There is a port thread over in development and hacking... Please search before posting as your question/s are probably more likely to be and already answered over there.
2.5 is ugly, i hope no one takes the time to port that crap, would be etter off porting 2.6 when its stable
as much as i want a new version, i would never want them on the Diamond. It eats up too much RAM and between the porting and converting files, there are bounds to be an assload of problems.
Manila 2.5
There is manila 2.5 for Diamond! To Buggy for Daily use!
chadm said:
I see that htc have released a new version of Touch Flo 3D (version 2.5), which looks fantastic.
I would like to know if anyone believes that we will be able to get this to work on the Toch Diamond, or will I have to buy the htc Hero to benefit from this kind of interface ?
Regards
Chad
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You mean leo. The hero is android. and here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540520