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Trying to get an answer to this question, but nobody seems to know the answer so far.
I'll buy the Oribit if it can do the following:
a) be used whilst walking in e.g. central London to help me find my way to various full postcode locations/streets (i.e. held in hand, easy to read display)
b) ideally, also be able to be kept hidden in inside pocket, with verbal instructions coming via bluetooth headset.
I noticed in one forum that b) was ruled a problem, as apparently e.g. WM5 does not allow audio such as TomTom instructions to be sent to a bluetooth headset??
I think, that Bluetooth is not the problem... I think, it will work.
But: GPS with device in your Pocket won't work.
Cable-Headset works fine, Bluetooth Headset not (at least mine).
Running TomTom in your jacket or rucksack is no problem.
But using TomTom for walking is not very good - even when you switch it to the "Walking mode". If you walk slow, it doesn't really know what dircetion you are walking and the map is rotating very often.
hi
i Used TT in london last year device in pocket worked a treat don't know about stability of map as it was in my pocket most of the time and used a wired headset. just had to view map ocassionally to get an idea of the general direction i was heading.
Thanks people,
Varied answers! - maybe due to different models?
"even when you switch it to the "Walking mode". - oh well, good to hear it actually has a 'walking mode'
"bluetooth" - I believe someone mentioned some issue whereby (forgive me for vagueness) WM generated sounds could not be sent via Bluetooth (but obviously phone or music audio could). Yes, I was confused as well...
Yes - it has a walking mode. But that mode is for the way how TomTom calculates the route - e.g. pedestrian areas, oneway streets.
Another thing is - in large cities the device will find less satellites due to high houses around you. That's another point why it sometimes does't know what direction you are walking. That was my experience in Boston last year.
I use memory map 5 with the Orbit and I think that's exactly what you want. I have the full london A-Z and using the GPS can pin point my position. I also have ordinance survey maps for kent and sussex which are great for walks.
When you connect the orbit back to your PC, memory map will download your route to the PC and display it within the 'main' memory map software.
GPS Walking
I've bougth HTC Artemis recently and used it in the labirinth of Venice Italy. I thought I couldn't use it but I managed to use it.
Surprisingly it could find the position. I mean surprisingly if you know that the streets in Venice are 3 meters large, at best, and the surroundings houses never lower then 12-15 meters.
Yes, it's a problem for TomTom to find the direction where you're going but, if you ask to see the graphical demo of the calculated route, you can easily go where you want. You're looking at a freezed map showing the next connection, turnout or whatever. As soon as you've reached it you can press the skip of next button to see next istruction. More on this, while you look at the graphical demo of the route, you get the vocal messages.
Bye
thanks, all interesting especially memory map 5 by the sound of it!
Memory Map is great for walking but it will not give you spoken commands as to where you need to go, it is a topographical map (it looks the same as the paper map you would purchase from an outdoors/ camping style shop) but its in electronic format displayed on the PDA screen with current position displayed. You can set waypoints to offer a vector, distance and time to go to reach the destination - great out on the fells but limited in cities to be honest.
If you want spoken instructions TomTom or Route 66 work great on the Artemis, both can display the map in 2D mode which is easier to interpret when walking - Mike
Hi,
Was just wondering if anyone had a recomendation for a good GPS porgram? I'm looking for good mapping rather than road directions. Google Maps Mobile is great, but not so good when I'm out of range from a cell tower...
Thanks for your help
smckane
GPS program
TomTom 6 with 6.75 map ( the best, for me)
Navigon 6 ( nice but slower with elf)
Route 66 gps (
Thanks for the sugestions giovanniriccio, but those are all road directions programs, and I don't drive (yet, sadly). Looking for something I can use when out walking / on my bike.
Cheers
How about OziExplorer?
http://www.oziexplorer.com/
Is that what you're looking for? You will need to supply your own (scanned or digital) maps, but if you have those (or find it in gps-forums): it worked great on my HTC Magician. Haven't installed it to my touch yet, though, so I can't promise it will work, and if you don't have the maps in the right format, it can be a bit of a pain in the ass to get it all right.
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Thanks for the sugestions giovanniriccio, but those are all road directions programs, and I don't drive (yet, sadly). Looking for something I can use when out walking / on my bike.
Cheers
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I myself use Navigon more so then TOM TOM (I have both installed) only because I like the interface a bit better... and waiting an additional 3 seconds to have the program load or another 3 for a route to load in comparision to Tom Tom isn't that big of a deal for me.
However, that said. TomTom 6 and Navigon both give you the option to choose your method of transport, So you can choose walking route or biking instead of driving a car.
Navigon has these options: Fast Car, Standard Car, Slow Car, Motorbike, Lorry, Bicycle, Pedestrian. Now as far as I know it doesnt have walking paths programmed into it it just uses these settings to give you an estimate on how long till you reach your destination.
Same for Tomtom however it's options are as follows; Fastest Routes, Shortest Routes, Walking Routes, and Bicycle routes. I've never used any of these features so now sure how they really work BUT they are there.
Like I was saying about the load up time between the two, depending on what type of Touch you have will likely make a difference because honestly I've barely noticed a difference as far as route loading times but that could be because I have the touch enhanced so it runs fairly fast.
Hope this helps!
Memory-Map
Memory map is brilliant for mountian biking and walking.
http://www.memory-map.com/
30 day trial available and good quality maps (UK, France) available or you can import. Runs on PC and PPC so you can dowload and analyse your routes
I'd second Memory Maps, it has worked brillantly for me on a number of WM devices including the touch. It can be a bit pricey for maps, but Memory maps navigator is free and can import and calibrate scanned maps.
Thank you
Lots of options to play with over the Christams holidays!
Cheers!
smckane
Hey Guys...
Heres a link to the Cube Icons thread I made. If you go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351551&page=4
you'll find not only icons for the aplauncher for TomTom and Navigon but I also made some Icons for the mediahub panel of the cube as well.
Anyone know how to fix the "No maps found!" TomTom error? I'm currently using TomTom 6.203 (7220) with USA/Canada maps version 6.75 (1409). I have the maps folder in my microSD card.
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I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM, dos any body know how to fix, you cannot get into settings to look for maps, it just takes you to tomtom download page
Not sure if this will help but I had had the problem on my treo before and I just simply took the map off and brought it back onto the SD card.
I'm also not sure if the placement of the map has anything to do with it but I had originally had it in the TOMTOM folder. When I moved it to the root menu of the SD card it read the map fine.
Right now I'm running Tomtom 6.010 (7720) and my map is "USA and Canada 675_1409'
I found the solution in another thread from kunz:
Disable Bluetooth Explorer from Settings -> Connections -> Bluetooth -> Bluetooth FTP
It causes TomTom to think that the bluetooth folder is your storage card and tries to load map from there. Disabling it should do the trick.
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This worked out instantly for me.
You guys may also want to try Navigon Navigator for your phone. I have the latest version 6.2 and it runs super smooth has a way nicer interface then tom tom and has voice control so you can actually just press a button on the phone and say "navigate home" and the program does the route and stuff for you. Its a great feature to use instead of flipping through your favorites or something like that.
I have both tomtom and Navigon on my touch. I use Navigon more however I have noticed that they both sometimes find different routes. On that occasion I noticed tomtoms routes are a little quicker (by say a few minutes... but that could simply be because it calculates the estimated time a bit different) Either way.. something to check out at least. Look up some information on the program and check out screen shots of it. You can tell right away the interface and maps themselves look alot nicer then tomtoms. Both seem to be about the same as far as up to date maps go.
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OK Guys, please excuse my noob question, but as far as I know the Touch does not have GPS. Do you use external Bluetooth GPS devices or how do you use all these apps?
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OK Guys, please excuse my noob question, but as far as I know the Touch does not have GPS. Do you use external Bluetooth GPS devices or how do you use all these apps?
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Yes, bluetooth gps. I use GlobalSat BT-359, and I'd like to buy one day "Freedom Keychain GPS SiRF III Receiver" or maybe the small Holux GPS Receiver.
As for software doing maps, there are plenty. I know of: googlemaps, gpstuner, gloposis and sometimes the necessary companion 'gpsgate'. Recently gpstuner got google maps support built in, but I haven't tried (previously one had to build maps oneself for gpstuner).
With a bluetooth gps would it work with garmin maps topo or road maps?
I use GlobalSat BT-359, with Windows Live, along with Microsoft Voice Command 6.1, you can actually tell it where you want to go. The mapping software works fine. The only occasional problem I have, and maybe someone has an answer for this, is it takes a while (5 minutes sometimes), to sync with the GPS "puck". Sometimes closing and reopening the app. several times helps it along. Once in a rare while it will lose the port, as well. I am using port 1. Does anyone have a solution to this? Otherwise, it works great when everything is sync'd.
thanks. Gary
Why not try the "Igo My way 2006 plus"
Igo My way 2006 plus works great with my Touch and it alerts me on approaching the speed cameras. You should try it out. The maps are much more detailed then on other Gps software i used. If you want to use it and you don't find a trial, plz pm me and i will help.
p.s. you have to own a Bt. Gps receiver.
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Igo My way 2006 plus works great with my Touch and it alerts me on approaching the speed cameras. You should try it out. The maps are much more detailed then on other Gps software i used. If you want to use it and you don't find a trial, plz pm me and i will help.
p.s. you have to own a Bt. Gps receiver.
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That software looks pretty cool, but I don't see any mention of maps for US/Canada on their website... Do these exist, or is it just for European users?
Thanks....
First of all I want to thank all the members on different forums, who posted suggestions and files. I just read read and read for 3 days trying to make it work on my TYTN II. I finally did it and wanted to combine all the info in one post so lots of other members can benefit from it.
So here we go, please follow all the steps carefully and slowly….
1. Get “Garmi Mobile XT V4PPC” from mininova.
2. Remove any previous garmin installations completely from your ppc.
3. Download A. GarminMobileXTforPocketPcwithGPS10_4100wBeta.exe
B. GarminMobileXTforWindowsMobile_41040w.exe
4. From pc install A to ppc and DO NOT install or run on ppc when a window appears to do so.
5. From pc install B to ppc and install and run when window appears on ppc. When program runs , it will start looking for gps device. Cancel it, go to Settings then to About and write down your 10 digit Device ID.
6. Run GarmiMobile XT V4PPC key generator on pc and put your device id and generate SW key and Map Key ( Garmin city navigator nt 2008 ).
7. Open note pad. Copy and past both keys one by one and save them as SW.UNL and GMAPSUPP.UNL.
This is a critical point. In your windows explorer uncheck HIDE FILE EXTENSIONS. NOW MAKE SURE THAT BOTH FILES DO NOT HAVE txt EXTENSION AT THE END. THEY HAVE TO BE UNL FILES.
8. Transfer these UNL files to your ppc in Garmin folder.
9. Now run Garmin from your ppc, it should be able to detect your GPS now. You do not have to be outside at this point.
Installing the Maps.
1. Download Garmin City Navigator North America NT 2008 from piratesbay. Install on your computer and run. It will ask for the unlock code, put GNG55-L8WSA-S7YET-9U246-GJFQT.
2. That should unlock the mapsource. Select your maps to be transferred, save it on desktop on pc.
3. Name newely made map file GMAPSUPP.IMG ( no txt extensions ).
4. Delete GMAPSUPP.UNL and GMAPBMAP.IMG from your ppc in Garmin directory and load new GMAPSUPP.IMG from your pc to ppc.
That’s it guys you should be able to use the maps now.
Thanks once again to all the kind souls out there who made it possible.
I cannot seem to find the file from mininova. Can someone contact me so that I can get it and host it for others?
Was able to find all files and trying to install now.
Good luck guys guys. File should be on mininova.....
IT WORKS! But I had to leave GMAPSUPP.UNL on my ppc or Garmin Mobile XT would say that it could not unlock the map. Thanks for the instructions Tararura!
BTW: Im using it on a hw6955.
Good job coolcut....
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Hey,
I would like to thank you, thats amazing i have been trying to make this work for a while. I do have a suggestion though why down you post the files all togther for everybody to have. including the instructions that you have provided.
I have tried to search for the files but i can not seem to find them.
Thanks again...
The Files
Hi guys
Carry on................
This is Warez talk. This is NOT allowed on this forum.
Sorry about that. I didn't know that. You can probably delete this post.
thanks
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Sorry about that. I didn't know that. You can probably delete this post.
thanks
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He/she is a senior member of respect but he/she cannot delete the whole thread and only moderator has the power to do that. You may consider to delete the content of your #8 above so that nobody can understand your post #1. It will wither and die naturally!
Thanks SamNC
Done.......
Garmin Vs TomTom Vs iGuidance
How do you compare them especially on accuracy of routing and maps? Had used a friend's iGuidance 4 on X51v with WM6 briefly, I like its easy to use and the Text to Speech function but routing accuracy was poor in a lot of places since version 1.1. I have used TT6 for over a year now, generally routing is acceptable though its not optimal routing all the time. Between the 2, I opted for routing accuracy and map accuracy.
I have never used Garmin before, so how is its routing and map status. How old or how update is Garmin map. I need more information before I shell out $140 for the Garmin map.
HI there
I have TT and Garmin installed right now on TYTN II . I also used Mio/iGo on TYTN II. The best of all is Garmin. Its accuracy is the best. Graphics are not that great like TT. Garmin tells you if the destination is on Left or Right when you are close to reaching it. TT is not that accurate, once it told me that my address was still 2 blocks away when I already had reached it.
Another cool thing in Garmin is that once you set the addresses in Garmin for your Contacts. You can open contacts in your phone and then you have an option to route to it through Garmin.
Menus are simple in Garmin than TT. and Garmin has more POI like I could not find Tim Hortons in TT but Garmin was showing all of them.
Personally I like Garmin very much for its accuracy
I like TT6 because of better routing accuracy not destination accuracy as it does not matter too much for me if I am a house or 2 away. I bought GPS navigation softwares starting from 2001, none was satisfactory and I found TT6 had slightly better routing (sometimes I got wrong routing from TT6 as well but comparatively less than other software I owned). I settle for TT6 as a compromise, it lacks of storage capacity for Favorites.
It seems that you are quite happy with Garmin. I will problly try Garmin.
Yes try it , you will like it better.
what is the coverage for europe (countries, %)
Don't know but there are some European maps you can download for it.
i am using artemis, and i have copied sw.unl to garmin folder,.
when the device try to search, he try to search on my com port (com 4) but nothing happend, the satellite was not found (keep searching),.
any ideas???
thanks b4
this soft works in a HTC TyTN 2?
I have BT GPS. I am looking for a simple GPS app, which can tell me arial distance (so no maps needed) from my location to particular point (longi/latitude). Also it can store a point when asked for.
I want to mark my car's parking point. Then use phone and my BT GPS to go towards the car. That is all.
Any pointer ? thanks
I am amazed that no body replied to post. Looks like I am the only one using GPS with eexcalibur. Anyway here is the info.
I am using BT-339 GPS with bluetooth. It works very well without any problem. Since the connection is bluetooth, you can keep GPS in you backpack or pocket and excalibur will have wireless connection to GPS. No wires hanging out .
I installed "Pocket Street" which came in my MS Street and Trip 2006 CD. I exported map from MS Street and Trip 2007 on my laptop and copied to SD card. Pocket street picks up map and shows location right where I am driving with dynamically updating my position exactly like my TomTom GPS. It does not have turn-by-turn direction, but I do not need those any way. For directions I have TomTom. The map is excellent, which I like much better than TomTom. The resolution is excellent, with all the builtin POIs etc. The map of whole state (right to fullest zoom in) fits in 6 MB to 30 MB. 30 MB for large state like Texas, and 6 MB for smaller states. Pocket street do not have any learning curve. Another advantage is that you do not need, data connection for maps . A big plus, since I do not have unlimited data.
Also I found NoniGPSPlot which can work without maps and you can mark where you parked your car. Then the progy shows the distance and position of your car relative to your current position. This is what I was looking for. The app has about 30 minute to 1 hr learning curve, but when you get how to use, you will be amazed with it usefulness. The position and distance gets updated as you wale towards/away from your makred car parking postion.
No one replied because this topic has been covered many times, thats why the forum has this nifty SEARCH feature, perhaps you should give it a whirl at some point its really fascinating:
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3120875&highlight=mapquest#post3120875
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3079738&highlight=mapquest#post3079738
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440678&highlight=mapquest
Seachbar plugin http://mycroft.mozdev.org/search-engines.html?name=xda
Makes it even easier to find info from the most knowledegable forum member
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No one replied because this topic has been covered many times, thats why the forum has this nifty SEARCH feature, perhaps you should give it a whirl at some point its really fascinating:
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3120875&highlight=mapquest#post3120875
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3079738&highlight=mapquest#post3079738
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440678&highlight=mapquest
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Bupahs, thanks for pointing me to search. I did searched the answer. And I did looked at all the messages you pointed to. But all of those require maps. And all of those need maps to work with. Also the smartphone version do not allow to record a point (i.e to mark and remember parking poistion of car). And if they allow, they do not allow the point to be off road (i.e. in parking lot). Hence I needed a solution which does not use maps, because any app which uses maps do not allow points to be off road.
Thanks.
tahdor said:
Bupahs, thanks for pointing me to search. I did searched the answer. And I did looked at all the messages you pointed to. But all of those require maps. And all of those need maps to work with. Also the smartphone version do not allow to record a point (i.e to mark and remember parking poistion of car). And if they allow, they do not allow the point to be off road (i.e. in parking lot). Hence I needed a solution which does not use maps, because any app which uses maps do not allow points to be off road.
Thanks.
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Efficasoft GPS Utilities, I think that may be what your looking for. Its not free however... PM me
After a lot of searching on here I have found the info I needed and by trial and error I have got TomTom Navigator 6 working on my HTC Touch HD. I have TTN6 Western Europe HTC P3300/P3600/X7500 version on DVD. It has taken a few hours to get it running but it runs now. Others have mentioned time lag when using it, I have not tried it in the car yet and will do that tommorrow. But all looks swell.
There was also an issue with TomTom over me changing from my HTC3300 which I originally ran the software on. You can only change it from one device to another once in 6 months so don't register the new device with TomTom until you have it all running. I had TomTom Home 2.7 installed and had registered my HTC3300 and TTN6 with TomTom. I had to set up a new email account to register TTN6 on my HD. (more about that later)
The new TomTom Home 2.7 does NOT work until you have installed TomTom on the HD! I un-installed it an put the original TomTom Home 1.5 back on from the DVD to get this all working.
The WVGAFIX3 program (mentioned below) is essential but it limits all apps to running in the top two thirds of your screen with a black bar underneath. Also i have not tried to use landscpe whilst running TTN6 as the screen size is already larger than on my HTC 3300.
So this is what I did.
1. Go here and download WVGAFIX3 and install this excellent little app (Big thanks Cotulla) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455974 and make sure you can get to it easily because you'll need to run it before TomTom starts up on your phone.
2. Use TomTom Home 1.5 (uninstall TomTom Home 2.7 if you have updated already). Plug in your HD and using TomTom Home install TTN6 onto the storage card whilst connected.
3. Turn your phone off then back on (or soft reset) and TomTom will try to automatically install.
4. Let it run through the process. (sorry but I cannot remember if TomTom then tries to start up after instalation) if it does start you will get a weird screen on your phone with the bottom half black and the top with a scrambled TomTom screen. (This is why to need Cotulla’s WVGAFIX3 program). Close TTN6 on the phone. (I pressed the “home” button and used the “close running apps” drop down)
6. Open WVGAFIX3 and choose VGA (480x640) BEFORE running TTN6. Run TTN6, it asks for you to register, I used "register automatically", and it asked for my TomTom Product Code. (it will be on the “credit card” that came with the DVD)
7. Once registered, go into “change preferences”, go to “show GPS status” and then “configure”. Choose other NMEA GPS receiver, select baud rate 115200, select com4. And that should be it as far as installation on the HD goes. (you don’t get the blue and grey bars in the GPS status window but the satellite numbers along the bottom go from grey to blue dots when registered). You will also see that the running programs now all only fill the top two thirds of the screen. DON'T forget to change back to WVGA (480x800) when you have closed TTN6.
8. I then went into TomTom Home and it said the phone was not “paired with/registered with” the details already in TomTom Home and asked if I wanted to update TomTom, I said yes and it sent info off. I’m a bit vague as to what steps happened here because I was beginning to get a bit p*ssed off. (But, I had to register a new email address with TomTom because there was some issue with having two devices on the same email logon when trying to use TomTom Home 2.7 initially).
9. Anyway, in TomTom Home 1.5 I logged in with my new email address and it said the phone was not registered with that account and did I want to update it. I said yes and it updated.
10. I then closed and reopened TomTom Home 1.5 and it said there was an updated version I chose to download and it updated to TomTom Home 2.7. I logged in using my new email details. When that ran it again wanted me to register the phone with TTN6 and TomTom so I said OK. and every thing seems to run fine.
I have not tried downloading new maps as I am happy with what I have at the moment. Also, I have not actually tried the SatNav in the car yet so I don’t know if there are any performance issues with the mapping and voices whilst on the move (all works fine in a static environment). Will use that tomorrow and see how it goes.
I hope this is of some use!
Stoobietoo
What is the difference with IGO8 and tomtom? I mean, why you install more applications to get it work, since igo8 works very stable with HD. I dont know if there is advantages of tomtom, didn't use it before. If there is some, please share with me.
Evan.
I just use TT7, works no problems
The main reason I posted this is that a few folks already have TomTom Navigator 6 and could do without being ripped off for TomTom 7 when 6 will actually work, (despite what TomTom tell you to try to make you pay again TomTom Navigator 6 WILL work with Touch HD!)!
Stoobietoo
pay for tomtom 7? you only need to buy the maps and tomtom 6 maps work with tomtom 7.
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pay for tomtom 7? you only need to buy the maps and tomtom 6 maps work with tomtom 7.
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Interesting! So how do I get a free legitimate copy of TT7 to use with my maps?
Stoobietoo
stoobietoo said:
Interesting! So how do I get a free legitimate copy of TT7 to use with my maps?
Stoobietoo
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http://rapidshare.com/files/195437755/ttn7.915.9196.vga_black.cab
hsclater said:
I just use TT7, works no problems
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I use it too!
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http://rapidshare.com/files/195437755/ttn7.915.9196.vga_black.cab
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That's legitimate??!
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That's legitimate??!
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My thoughts entirely!
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hsclater said:
That's legitimate??!
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Did you pay for your maps? If your maps are legit that is all tom tom worries about. I have used this copy and activated my maps with it to another phone by getting a code from Tom Tom. They didn't care about the program...just the maps.
Just go to GPS Underground, MOD EDIT warez link removed . They have everything you need for whatever device or version you have.