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12v powered usb hub, with pocket pc charge and upto 4 device cabled network (or wifi). using smb network share of any plugged in disks, and having a directory set set asside for a print queue and for windows GDI drivers for printers which may be attatched. maybe a cat5 too. useful as a print file station, also with power cable gen of -12 and 5 for supplying disks.
a power efficient mobile office hub. MediaMobileHub.
any ideas??
very very few htc pdas have usb host functionality so they can only use usb for charging and being sync'd with by an usb host like a pc
ideas for min cost max function
things I need to know.
1. does pocket ICS route both ways as this would mean bluetooth and wifi were not needed as standard as a pocket pc could provide this extra connectivity. along with routing of other connected pockets.
2. how standard are GDI driver files.
3. how standard are disk drive enclosure power connectors.
4. active sync between devices would be good, with selection set being done via a cab download. and date criterian.
5. about usb printer scanner combo devices such as this lexmark. the scan button would scan and save to a fixed directory?
6. DVD writer auto do from directory on blank disk?
well more later,
a master hub yes
sorry for the confusion but the intent is the hub is a bus master.
when plugged as a slave into a pc
the hub when plugged as a slave into a pc would export a network interface with smb shares and pretend to be a pocket pc (with set name). this would also act as a routing gateway to any device ICS. so a dhcp server and nat would be needed within the device. this would be far better than exporting multiple usb devices. and sync up all pocket pcs with the one desktop, while keeping the need for desktop power consumption to a minimum. chains of hubs would present possible device naming problems, and so mac addresses would be the logical choice for the merged virtual power pc.
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Soon after buying the T-Mobile MDA, it became painfully obvious that the performance of GPRS connectivity – at least in my area – is plain horrible! My guess is that I’m not alone, since a common question posted in XDA-related sites is how to WiFi with the XDA.
Well, there is no SDIO slot in the XDA that will support the SD WiFi cards, so the only way of getting connected to a LAN or WAN without schlepping your PC to act as a proxy server for pass-through would be to use a LAN/WAN-to-RS232 converter that could be plugged to the serial port socket on the XDA. I have tried a few RS232 I/O adapters with the XDA. and my results are available at:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/prutchi/xda_connectivity.doc
(you can also try http://mywebpages.comcast.net/prutchi/xda_connectivity.htm, but I'm having some trouble with the figures)
You'll notice that I manage to communicate with resources on the net via a terminal, but haven't been able to trick IE into accepting my RS232 feed. If you try any of these interfaces and manage to open a socket, please let all of us know how.
Cheers,
David
Excellent work David,
I was able to replilcate your setup well! I am playing with a USB WAP and working on the DLLs to make it recognizable in Pocket IE. Working on understanding the connections and interface methods.
Used a GPS protocol as source and am doing some tweaks. I will post any updates or success! The only issue I am finding with this solutions is the size of the devices, but once we figure out the connection details we can port it over to smaller, power efficient devices.
Take care
Hi Ronin!
Any progress?
My intention was to use a RS232 wireless “wire” (two wireless RS232 dongles that transparently simulate an RS232 cable) to establish a wireless sync passthrough on the mean time.
Today I tried connecting via RS232 900MHz “Ticks” by Data Hunter ( The "Tick" is a complete data radio that parasitically draws all of its operating power from the RS232 data interface). However, I wasn't able to make it work
I'm pretty sure that I'm using the correct pinout configuration, but the XDA doesn't actively turn on COM1. Instead, it passively listens for activity from the PC. This leaves the Tick without power, and the PC sees no response. I'll try tickling the data ready lines to see if I can get it to establish the wireless link before actually establishing a sync connection.
Cheers,
David
Anyone tried to use the HW of a wireless Mouse?
I do not have one, so I don't know if there is only one Chip for movements and W-connections.
Maybe its possible to rewrite the mouse driver to access the data stream or just use the HW to build up a receiver.
And: The mouse-HW is LOW-POWER and small
Seems to be a real good idea Hopefully it will work
What about a USB-WLAN-Stick?
There're lots of USB-WLAN-Sticks on the market and a Driver should not be impossible to write!
I just opend the XDA-Connector (charging adapter) and found out that is every pin available! A USB-Adapter is easy to build!
Does anyone have some exp. with drivers? Can someone write a USB-devicedriver for WLAN?
Any Ideas?
ok, forget about it.
I'm still collecting information and I forgot about USB-Slave....
Well, I would like to see more results and solutions for this topic!
McNugget
Hi guys! I don't know if this thing belongs here, but since I'm an owner of a Blue Angel device, I'll put it here anyway. Is it possible to create a simple device which has the following components:
- An IDE adaptor (don't know if this is the right term, but what I mean is a cable which can be connected to standard HDDs', CDROMs', etc.)
- A power input to provide external power to the HDD or CDROM connected to it.
- A bluetooth radio allowing a device (PDA, cellphone, laptop) which is bluetooth enabled (like my Blue Angel) to connect to it via bluetooth. I think the directory bowsing profile, or network profile should be supported.
The purpose of such a device is to allow my Blue Angel to read CDs' and copy data from hard drives. I know it would mean carrying an extra device, but considering the advantages it would give me (reading CD's and HDD's without the need for a PC) I would surely consider adding it to my gadget bag.
Does such a device exist? If not, is it possible to make something like this?
Sorry, but it can't be done. The Blue Angel's USB port is only a USB Slave port, meaning it only works if plugged into a computer.
I dont think a bluetooth drive adapter exists, but maybe something wireless could be used??
e.g.
http://uk.asus.com/products/communication/wireless/wl-hdd25/overview.htm
Alan
I would also suggest WIFI. Bluetooth is way too slow
Toshiba used to sell a Bluetooth hard drive called the "HopBit". I don't think it was ever sold in the US but Dynamism imported it for a while. It seems to be discontinued though.
Imagine using Wi-Fi for direct connection between your laptop/PPC (and other end devices) to an external hard disk. Imposssible?
Just read this:-
http://www.edslab.com/products.htm
The product will be launched this coming July 06. Initially, it'll connect to your laptop/notebook. After which driver will be developed for PPC application.
No more expensive memory cards :lol:
You can also look at Asus WL-HDD - althogh this one have some advantages, like the battery and 1.8" size.
I just hope it will be released and that the price will not be too much.
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If I remembers correctly ASUS WL-HDD requires connection through an access point/router whereas the main selling point of Wi-Drive is its direct connection between end devices WITHOUT the need to go through the access point/router. However, you can also network the drive through an access point/router :lol:
I'm using Wl-Hdd since it's release to get my files from my pda. It's working like a charm. It is an access point and router, and you can make it a full linux server easily
Hi,
Just a question and a thought...
With the WL-HDD, is it stand-alone? i.e. does it have an internal power source - or must be connected via a power adaptor?
And can it connect directly to the HTC Universal (without need of a switch or router?).
My thought is, I wonder if anyone has tried to connect an IPOD to a PPC device? wouldn't that be an ideal external HDD device?
Michael G
michaelg said:
With the WL-HDD, is it stand-alone? i.e. does it have an internal power source - or must be connected via a power adaptor?
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The WL-HDD does not have built in battery, you need power adaptor unfortunately.
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And can it connect directly to the HTC Universal (without need of a switch or router?).
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I haven't tried yet (still deciding if I should buy it or not), but since it's an Access Point it should connect no problem.
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My thought is, I wonder if anyone has tried to connect an IPOD to a PPC device? wouldn't that be an ideal external HDD device?
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IPOD is not Wireless, you can use it only as an USB memory device.
People had connected their IPODS to USB Host enabled PPCs like FS Loox and it worked fine. Unfortunately there are no HTC converged devices with USB Host functionality at the moment.
Wl-hdd work perfectly as a stand alone product with any PPC. I'm using it for 1,5 years now and it is perfectly working on my universal. No physical connection needed except power source.
As for the Ipod, if you change the wl-hdd firmware, you can connect any USB device in the USB port to get access to it's files. So you cannot plug the ipod to the universal, but you can plug the ipod to the wl-hdd then access it through universal
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Some pictures of Wi-Drive here:-
http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/live-from-cebit-the-widrive-wifi-drive-enclosure/
The enclosure comes with a female connector for the hard disk which means hard disk like the 1.8 inch Toshiba (which comes with a female connector) cannot be used
That leaves us with the 1.8 inch Hitachi brand which comes with a male connector. Not much choice for the 1.8 inch hard disk since currently only 1.8 inch hard disks are only available from Toshiba and Hitachi
RE
Just spoke to the manufacturer of Wi-Drive today
They will release the drive this coming July. I think I can get one from them before it goes to the market
Capacity : Casing comes with 30 and 60 GB 5400 rpm hard disk (for 1.8 inch)
Best of all!! Can connect direct with PPC besides notebook/laptop. They've an engineering test unit. Just waiting for production now.
Here's the explanation using WiFi. The drive will be recognised as a web folder instead of a drive by the PPC. This web folder will consists of your folders and files and you'll have to use IE browser to access them. Power input is 5V DC using mini USB which means you can charge it from your notebook/laptop USB ports or any external battery pack whihc provides a 5V DC output.
WOW!! Can't wait to lay my hand on one of these
at least there responding to someone...
they dont respond at all to any mails from me :?
i dont know if i like the web folder thingy though...
would prefer if it just showed trough the file explorer, does resco explorer show web folders?
did they tell you the prices with the 30 and 60gb and without any HD?
at least there responding to someone...
they dont respond at all to any mails from me :?
i dont know if i like the web folder thingy though...
would prefer if it just showed trough the file explorer, does resco explorer show web folders?
did they tell you the prices with the 30 and 60gb and without any HD?
RE
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"did they tell you the prices with the 30 and 60gb and without any HD?"
Nope. No pricing figure for the moment. They don't sell to end users because they're the manufacturer. The actual pricing will depend on the retail shops
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"would prefer if it just showed trough the file explorer, does resco explorer show web folders? "
No idea
I guess we just have to sit back and wait patiently
RE
OK, tested the WiDrive on my Universal today
Looks pretty cool...comes with Hitachi 1.8" 30GB hard disk
Managed to get it connected with my Universal using WiFi and access WiDrive using internet by typing a certain address on the address bar. The drive is treated as a web folder
Once login to WiDrive I'm able to download files to play (or save it) on my Universal
Also, can use my external 8800mAH battery pack (purchased from EastGear) to charge the WiDrive
Some issues though
a) cannot upload file from my SD card to WiDrive...hmmm
b) after playing a song I'll need to re-type the address at the PIE address bar in order to return to WiDrive
c) I think music and video cannot be streamed while playing on the Universal. What I mean is I'll need to download the music/video file to my Universal and the concerned program will be auto activated to play the music/video file.....have to check this further otherwise the drive just acts like another drive
Did not buy yet so no testing on notebook carried out. According to the shop streaming was done using the notebook as a driver is required to be installed on the notebook.
Well, I've discussed with WiDrive's boss on the above issues. Will discuss with their engineer tomorrow and feedback here.
Wow, its an experience. Cost about US$263
:lol:
RE
Sorry for the late reply
There're some changes. I'll be getting a 1.8 inch 60GB IDE Hitachi Travelstar and the Wi-Drive casing separately (cheaper this way) by this weekend. If everything works out fine I'll be reporting back
BTW, I was told by the engineer of EDSLAB that OPERA works better than PIE on their drive
RE
Sorry, due falls apart. For the 1.8" hard disk Wi-Drive comes with standard 30GB
60GB version will be released later
Some pictures of Wi-Drive here:-
http://sg.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=3827
:lol:
Hmm... Widrive looks good, but WL-HDD is still better in my mind. It can run off a battery (all PSP emergency batterys work, imagine my joy at finding that out!) ,it has an ethernet port for intergration to home networks (you can use it as a wireless access point) and it has USB host, so you can share USB drives, webcams, everything. It also comes up to 100gb, and i bet you itll be cheaper. you could even swap in a 1.8" hdd into the housing and put the battery in the space left, making it a neat solution.
RE
I've bought the Wi-Drive but only for 30GB model and still testing it
Initial test with OPERA gives pretty good results :lol:
Where can either of these external drives be purchased?
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Where can either of these external drives be purchased?
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lol... i wouldnt buy one of those. Max = 100mbps on wireless. On wired USB 2.0 or Firewire = 480mbps or 800mbps i think. I use my diamondmax 11 or my cheetah scsi 15k rpm drive and it goes really quick. I put it on wifi by hooking it up to another computer and mapping it or just use remote access. Anything is possible nowadays, i dont have to tell it to you. But it seems this hard drive can exist independently when signal is available. I dont know how that works but i am sure you need a lcd display to select a network or to enter the key. Just like microsoft Zune? Why dont you guys go for microsoft Zune now that i think of it. ^^
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lol... i wouldnt buy one of those. Max = 100mbps on wireless. On wired USB 2.0 or Firewire = 480mbps or 800mbps i think. I use my diamondmax 11 or my cheetah scsi 15k rpm drive and it goes really quick. I put it on wifi by hooking it up to another computer and mapping it or just use remote access. Anything is possible nowadays, i dont have to tell it to you. But it seems this hard drive can exist independently when signal is available. I dont know how that works but i am sure you need a lcd display to select a network or to enter the key. Just like microsoft Zune? Why dont you guys go for microsoft Zune now that i think of it. ^^
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The point of these drives is mass storage on the universal. Read the thread before posting.
So I'm looking to setup a file sync with my phone, now typically it's a simple robocopy command that will sync folders but I'm having problems with this setup anyone have any experience with robocopy that can lend a hand?
ROBOCOPY C:\Users\asdf\Music\ "Galaxy Nexus"\"Internal Storage"\Music /MIR
That's my .bat file but nothing works, thoughts?
What you are trying to do won't work.
The Phone is not mounted as a standard USB device, so it isn't assigned a drive letter. Instead it is being mounted as a MTP device. Microsoft is being "user friendly" in the Explorer shell by giving it a path, and you can browse the folders etc. But I think it is only being seen by Explorer, and it isn't recognized as a storage device at the actual OS level. So the robocopy command doesn't see it.
If you want to use robocopy, you will need to install an app for Samba file sharing. This will let Windows see the files on your phone like another computer's network shared folders.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.funkyfresh.samba&hl=en
This will be connecting over wifi, not your USB cable, though.
So, with the Samba app installed, you might also try adding reverse tethering to make the phone use a USB cable to the computer as the network connection.
http://blog.mycila.com/2010/06/reverse-usb-tethering-with-android-22.html
I don't know what kind of throughput you will see with networking over the USB cable. Or how it will compare with transferring over wifi. I haven't tried it myself, but I think it could work, in theory.
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What you are trying to do won't work.
The Phone is not mounted as a standard USB device, so it isn't assigned a drive letter. Instead it is being mounted as a MTP device. Microsoft is being "user friendly" in the Explorer shell by giving it a path, and you can browse the folders etc. But I think it is only being seen by Explorer, and it isn't recognized as a storage device at the actual OS level. So the robocopy command doesn't see it.
If you want to use robocopy, you will need to install an app for Samba file sharing. This will let Windows see the files on your phone like another computer's network shared folders.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.funkyfresh.samba&hl=en
This will be connecting over wifi, not your USB cable, though.
So, with the Samba app installed, you might also try adding reverse tethering to make the phone use a USB cable to the computer as the network connection.
http://blog.mycila.com/2010/06/reverse-usb-tethering-with-android-22.html
I don't know what kind of throughput you will see with networking over the USB cable. Or how it will compare with transferring over wifi. I haven't tried it myself, but I think it could work, in theory.
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Ahh I thought that was going to be the problem. I can't seem to add files on my Windows PC it keeps canceling the transfer. On my Mac they transfer fine. So what I think I'm going to do is once I get my 20gb of music on the phone just use DoubleTwist AirSync.
i have a samsung galaxy note 2 sgh-i317M. I want to use robocopy to transfer my voice recorded school lecture notes to my laptop recorded with note 2's default voice recording app. How can I make the note 2 be detected as a drive (C:, F so that I can robocopy on it? Thank you
I have been conducting a review of the new HP X3 for my job, and there are two major "problems/things" are driving me nuts. I am a 28 year application developer, I have built my own Windows CE environments since PocketPC 2003 and my daily driver is a unlocked 950XL, so I am not some noob. But at this point this device has me stumped on Microsoft or HP motives with this device.
Just an overview, the device comes with a nice continuum dock with two USB ports and a USB C port, so basically three in total. It also has a display port as well, which to most people will require a DVI converter. As a developer remote desktop was my first stop. This option does work, but you quickly find out the that you don't like the mouse speed or the pointer size isn't exactly what you want as far as the overall RDP session. OK, so you go to settings and guess what. One option, mouse button left or right...Really HP and/or Microsoft????? At least give me some sort of mouse speed control. I was able to write a complete UWP application using Blend and Visual Studio through remote desktop, but if it had not been for the testing of the device I would have ended up pulling out my laptop and had the app done in 1/4 the time. So please expose some mouse settings, I have been through the Image Design Control tool for the provisioning and their WAP files from the ffu images but can not find the settings that I could configure to change this. My 950XL on the same HP dock with the same mouse and keyboard works 1000% times better, so it is something they have in a setting, hopefully not in a build.
Next I try and get the great dock that comes with the device to sync with a desktop. I have not tried this with the HD-500, so maybe this isn't fair. But as far as I can tell you can not have your device sync to a workstation when it is docked. I tried connecting the USB-C to a normal USB port on the desktop (both USB3 and USB2) and the device gets the dialog on the device saying USB error. So I try a straight through normal USB male to male cable, same error. Very annoying thing at first, but for a developer it gets worse.
So you end up taking the device off the dock and connect it using a UBS-C to a USB3 cable directly to the desktop. Finally the device is seen by the OS and Visual Studio. Things are looking up, workstation makes the ding, you can browse the files, visual studio shows the device and you think everything is ready. You go back to visual studio and set the break points in the code and press debug. The device turned off when you first sit it down but at first you don't even think about it. So you pick the device up get the screen running so visual studio starts trying to connect for the debugging session. Your humming along and visual studio debugger hits a null exception error and breaks. You sit down the phone and turn to visual studio to check out which object only to find out the phone turned off and the error along with the debug session had been cut off. I really don't understand whether is the light sensor or accelerator that HP has set here but it has to be a setting. My 950XL does not exhibit this behavior. I can see exposing a setting such as this as an option, but I cannot find the setting controlling this behavior if it is an option or something HP is enforcing for some unknown reason.
So if anyone can point me in the direction to the following options and/or settings it would be helpful.
1. Where are the mouse pointer speed settings for USB connect mouse including when using Continuum. (Registry settings or visual don't care)
2. On the HP X3 does anyone know how to turn off the setting to turn off when sat down. Trying to figure out if this is the black out of light or when it is acceleration setting.
Hi to prevent the phone to turn off you must turn off the double tap feature.
acuatico69 said:
Hi to prevent the phone to turn off you must turn off the double tap feature.
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I think there was also a new FW update to aid in the screen timeout while docked.
geekempire said:
I have been conducting a review of the new HP X3 for my job, and there are two major "problems/things" are driving me nuts. I am a 28 year application developer, I have built my own Windows CE environments since PocketPC 2003 and my daily driver is a unlocked 950XL, so I am not some noob. But at this point this device has me stumped on Microsoft or HP motives with this device.
Just an overview, the device comes with a nice continuum dock with two USB ports and a USB C port, so basically three in total. It also has a display port as well, which to most people will require a DVI converter. As a developer remote desktop was my first stop. This option does work, but you quickly find out the that you don't like the mouse speed or the pointer size isn't exactly what you want as far as the overall RDP session. OK, so you go to settings and guess what. One option, mouse button left or right...Really HP and/or Microsoft????? At least give me some sort of mouse speed control. I was able to write a complete UWP application using Blend and Visual Studio through remote desktop, but if it had not been for the testing of the device I would have ended up pulling out my laptop and had the app done in 1/4 the time. So please expose some mouse settings, I have been through the Image Design Control tool for the provisioning and their WAP files from the ffu images but can not find the settings that I could configure to change this. My 950XL on the same HP dock with the same mouse and keyboard works 1000% times better, so it is something they have in a setting, hopefully not in a build.
Next I try and get the great dock that comes with the device to sync with a desktop. I have not tried this with the HD-500, so maybe this isn't fair. But as far as I can tell you can not have your device sync to a workstation when it is docked. I tried connecting the USB-C to a normal USB port on the desktop (both USB3 and USB2) and the device gets the dialog on the device saying USB error. So I try a straight through normal USB male to male cable, same error. Very annoying thing at first, but for a developer it gets worse.
So you end up taking the device off the dock and connect it using a UBS-C to a USB3 cable directly to the desktop. Finally the device is seen by the OS and Visual Studio. Things are looking up, workstation makes the ding, you can browse the files, visual studio shows the device and you think everything is ready. You go back to visual studio and set the break points in the code and press debug. The device turned off when you first sit it down but at first you don't even think about it. So you pick the device up get the screen running so visual studio starts trying to connect for the debugging session. Your humming along and visual studio debugger hits a null exception error and breaks. You sit down the phone and turn to visual studio to check out which object only to find out the phone turned off and the error along with the debug session had been cut off. I really don't understand whether is the light sensor or accelerator that HP has set here but it has to be a setting. My 950XL does not exhibit this behavior. I can see exposing a setting such as this as an option, but I cannot find the setting controlling this behavior if it is an option or something HP is enforcing for some unknown reason.
So if anyone can point me in the direction to the following options and/or settings it would be helpful.
1. Where are the mouse pointer speed settings for USB connect mouse including when using Continuum. (Registry settings or visual don't care)
2. On the HP X3 does anyone know how to turn off the setting to turn off when sat down. Trying to figure out if this is the black out of light or when it is acceleration setting.
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hello
try using Bluetooth mouse
I'm using the following setup:
hp pro display p2012 over Display port to HDMI cable with DVI to HDMI adapter
Bluetooth mouse and keyboard
they work perfectly