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WM2005 sucks?

Looks like wm2005 still not very stable, a lot of programs still not working.
For example, Xbackup, set as ringtone or Monster Chinese, etc.

well alot of programs required new versions when 2003SE came out as well

ttseng said:
Looks like wm2005 still not very stable, a lot of programs still not working.
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Using it on my Imate for a month or more and no problem so far and no lock-ups like there were on WM2003SE

I think the title of this thread is misleading... :?
The fact that it does not run several applications or crashes is because:
1.- This version is not final
2.- It's not compatible because of it's very nature, IT'S A NEW OS!!!
The same happened when we upgraded our PCs to Windows XP don't you remember?
New versions will start to come up eventually, and even if you don't see any advances "right-out-of-the-box" it's because the main improvements on this OS reside behind the scenes, so Programmers will start to develop new and exciting apps that take advantage of the new features and APIs.
For me Windows Mobile 5.0 has been very stable even with the very first version that Buzz, Toe and the gang which had very limited memory resources I had no stability problems whatsoever.
There are limitations of course, (like no MMS, mediocre video camera, sms problems, etc) but eventually Microsoft OR our very own developers will take care of that!
So, BE PATIENT!!!!! :wink:

Hi,
Using it for 3 days in my Qtek 2020 and no problem at all.
Even Jabra250 works fine, when in 2003SE was difficult to setup.
About software that don't work, we must wait until new versions come out...
I'm sure when you update you computer from NT to W2K you has software that didn't work and had to buy new versions, so why should be different here?
Be patient.... Mobile5 is ok for now.
AF

if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb

Xeon said:
if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb
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if only we could run it on magician

some0NE said:
Xeon said:
if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb
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if only we could run it on magician
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i double that

Rayan & all the rest are right!!!
I can't agree less to what Rayan wrote.
It's a new OS and a beta for that matter (check out Goras thread on "WM2005 that I can share"), If I'm not mistaken it's not also intended for Himalaya, judging on the memory problems just solved(!) by Buzz, toenailed, XdaJojo, mamaich & all the other contributors as well.
Personally in my opinion its a lot 'solid' than the WM2003 & SE since it has to crash yet on my xda II, as mentioned by Rayan even the initial release of the OS with limited memory was stable.
The problems with the apps like backup & camera are being solved one-by-one, MMS which doesn't even start before is now working (check out the threads on WM2005 in the forum).
Even now, the benefits of using the OS in terms of performance, stability & looks far outweighs its limitations (in my humble opinion) just be patient & leave it to the WIZARDS (Buzz, toenailed, XdaJojo, etc. etc. etc).
Besides, hey ttseng this is the xda-developers forum & we all are having fun testing, tweaking, & breathing new life to our "soon to be outlawed" XDA II ....... if not for the WIZARDS in the forum !!!!! Notice the request for the OS on the other xda models, aren't we lucky we have the WiZARDS working on the HIMA? :lol:
Cheers!

works flawlessly on XDA2 Himalaya!!!!!!!!
best os and most stable one ive come across ,wm200se never really happy but this WM2005 is and has been stable without a single hard reset or rest since install.even self configured the o2email and hotmail!! took the o2 uk config & connections setup file from a XDA2s_1-12-178-WWE_UK_Extended_ Rom.

Is there more than one version of WM2005 kicking about?
I successfully installed WM2005 on my XDA II, but I couldn't get many 3rd party apps to install on it. So I was surprised to see screenshots with certain utilities running ok.
I was wondering if there is more than one version of it floating about on the net. The one I installed was found on these forums, but I have recently downloaded another off usenet.
They are both himalaya.
I am sure a non-beta copy will rear its head on here sooner rather than later (I hope!)
Cam

this version is in the ftp section ,the rom has a file name of
wm2k5_XDA2_HIMALAYA_O2_fullRAM.rar

Yep!
That's the one!

That would make both copies I have the same.
Is this a late BETA or even an RTM version?
Now that the OS has been officially released I am guessing it's a race for someone to post the released version ;-)

the official full version is released?
wow!
so when can we have it for download here?
i am planning to put off my upgrade till the full version comes out.
currently i am on the win2003se which i aint very happy with!
plz advise...
thanx everybody.

It out but you cant get it.
I have a friend who is a manger in Microsoft. I sent the MS link of the offical release and asked if it can be obtained from the internal web software store. At the moment it cant and I feel it will also never be the case (2003 the end user could never buy).
So we are back to the carriers and if they will ship 2005 as an upgrade for ood devices or only on new (MDA XDA IV).
Dont think one needs to be a rocket scintist to answer that, was not one of the devices never shipped with 2003, the way I remember it it was buz that did a Chines to English translation.
So at least w on the BA side have to wait untill something gets leaked.

A little help with WM2005 upgrade please!!!!!!!
I see that most people have upgraded to WM2005 without much trouble, but not me!! I am with o2 and I've just upgraded and I can't us GPRS (it keeps trying to dial 193.113.200.195 and then drops the conx even though the IP is entered in the APN section) I can't run Worldmate pro (not compatable), TOMTOM 3 (need to upgrade to ver 4.4) pick up email etc etc.
Could I have the details that you need to enter into your XDA to connect to o2 network via GPRS so that I can access hotmail, messenger, MMS, Internet etc etc
I hope you can help as I don't want to downgrade to the old windows version.

i can send u a O2 customisation cab file if u need ,however your phone must b on contract with O2UK not payg or orange etc..

Yes Please!!
That'll be great. yes I am with O2 contract.......

where is the awesome rom !!! please
iam running w2005 in my XD2..but still MANY applications cant be installed..and i was surprised to see the screenshot (above) with many applications runing ..BUT i couldnt find the ROM...i found only the one for XDA2s..."XDA2s_1-12-178-WWE_UK_Extended_ Rom" actually is a zipped file with no rom inside..just many cab files ..can anyone help me please...thanks guys

Windows Mobile 6 and programs

Since 2 days I've got a hermes and read a lot in this mobile 6 forum. I installed several ROM but still have some questions.
I there a default windows mobile 6 rom, so not a customized one? I there a default site for downloading messenger live and office 2007? I looked at the microsoft site but couldn't find it.
Already searched the forum but couldn't get a answer.

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Since 2 days I've got a hermes and read a lot in this mobile 6 forum. I installed several ROM but still have some questions.
I there a default windows mobile 6 rom, so not a customized one? I there a default page for downloading messenger live and office 2007?
Already searched the forum but couldn't get a answer.
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Yes there is, but first; you got your hermes for about 2 days and you're allready flashing it? hmm..ok..but just be carefull, dont wanna see you opening a thread with "I ****ed-up my hermes." Its good you read alot, try WIKI if you dont understand some things.
ok..this link is a (pre-released, I would say, leaked version of) HTC Windows Mobile 6 ROM and as far is I know, Its not customized. And I think it includes office 2007 and if you want Windows live messenger, try this link.
good luck

thanks for you reply, I know how to flash my hermes, did it already 7 times now I'm also having some experience with my Imate Jam, which i've got now for over 3 years.

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Yes there is, but first; you got your hermes for about 2 days and you're allready flashing it? hmm..ok..but just be carefull, dont wanna see you opening a thread with "I ****ed-up my hermes." Its good you read alot, try WIKI if you dont understand some things.
ok..this link is a (pre-released, I would say, leaked version of) HTC Windows Mobile 6 ROM and as far is I know, Its not customized. And I think it includes office 2007 and if you want Windows live messenger, try this link.
good luck
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i flashed mines in one day but read the hermes thread a week in advance. lol

Bram87 said:
...if you want Windows live messenger, try this link.[/COLOR]
good luck
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Just a head's up... the link you posted is for an old version of WL4WM (10.6.0026.1400) which has some minor random issues of locking up the Hermes if you use the Live Services on your today screen via WiFi. The current version is 10.6.0028.2700, which resolves those issues and a few others. Many of the current Rom cooks are using this new version and may be able to post it here for you. (Add-on packages for BLACK include the old 10.6.0026.1400 version of WL4WM)

I found this site and started flashing WM6 on my Hermes less than a week from purchasing it, with no prior knowledge of flashing. Was a little scary but boy was it slow with WM5 on there.

Sorry but need to go off-topic
Duttythroy you use Windows X-Bow WM6 Black Majik TOUCHFLO STYLE hmm..is it touch or button flo..if it is button flo, its useless. I really want touchflo

Here's your answer for Mobile Office 2007.
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6431.html
I also remember seeing this on Microsofts website at some point and it will be offered as a free upgrade to mobile users.

is there a wm6.1 for dash???

dear guys, i know you are the best in upgrading our smartphones, do you know if there is, or soon will be an upgrade to wm6.1 for s620???
tnx

Not yet.. but I think that soon it will come to S620.
We are all waiting for this update

I actually got to play with a Windows Mobile 6.1 Dash but it still seemed to lag a fair amount. Just had a flashier home screen. Everything seemed to be the same. They added Copy and Paste as well.
JAmerican

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I actually got to play with a Windows Mobile 6.1 Dash but it still seemed to lag a fair amount. Just had a flashier home screen. Everything seemed to be the same. They added Copy and Paste as well.
JAmerican
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Oh man that's great news!!! I am excited. At least that confirms that there is a very high chance we will have to upgrade. Hopefully it will become more stable and not have memory leaks.
Thanks Jamerican....

did you check the new PIE how is it, does it have flash???

How about threaded sms like the PPC version has??

i'm actually really curious about wm6.1 too. I know it's out already, so where are the ROMs at? BTW, does anyone have access to HTC's downloads for the S620-621? When I attempted to register my unit with the serial # at their site, it wouldn't let me since it knew it was T-Mo Dash instead.
EDIT: well a quick search on google yielded this interesting result:
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=13800
I guess that's why we're not seeing any wm6.1 devices anytime soon...

even so, here at xda-developers you can see upgrades to 6.1 for some devices, so i guess we´ll just have to wait a little bit, but its going yo be here i´m sure

Google is your friend. Many websites have covered the new WM6.1 features. Basically it comes out to these:
* Threaded SMS - A Chat like function for your SMS Inbox
* Zoom out in Pocket IE - Enables Page overview mode and better navigation
* One Note included in Office Mobile
* Running Programs tab in Settings > Memory replaced to a better Task Manager. (But the previous running programs tab was much simple and easier)
* A new Managed Programs menu
As you can see, no mention of flash incorporation in PIE. Personally, I won't upgrade until it is as fast as the HTC ROM I'm using now. I am, however, really excited about threaded SMS.

wm6.1 does exist for the dash.
Lets put it this way. People have HTC excalibur running wm6.1. 6.1 adds a new home screen, better IE (much better IE), copy & paste, new version of active sync, etc, etc. WM6.1 is also faster. I'm not sure when this will be avaliable to everyone... but it does exist.

Actually I tried it at a M$ event at my school. The lady said it would take at least 10 months for consumers to see it. That does not include carrier customization etc. Pissed me off.
JAmerican

How come the Wing users have the 6.1 and not us! When I had the Wing the 6.1 made it SOOO much better....sucks having to wait

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How come the Wing users have the 6.1 and not us! When I had the Wing the 6.1 made it SOOO much better....sucks having to wait
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Yup, i'll vouch for this. I have open touch v3 on my wing and love it. Sometimes i like to go out with my dash since its slimmer and wow its like night and day how slow it is. Even with the new HTC rom that was posted...

Am I missing something here? When did the Wing get a system that isnt released yet? I am confused

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Am I missing something here? When did the Wing get a system that isnt released yet? I am confused
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WM 6.1 is alive and well on the PPC platform. First batch of WM 6.1 Professional ROMs hit the scene about a week and a half ago and I may be wrong about this but I believe the wing (HTC Herald) was the first to get it from our fine chefs here on XDA-DEV. Still waiting on a 6.1 Standard version for our favorite non-touchscreen devices (HTC Excalibur etc)...
Also don't forget that fortunately/unfortunately the touchscreen devices are way more popular than the non-touchscreen devices.
Personally I believe my T-Mobile Dash running the HTC ship rom is way more stable than any other Windows Mobile device I have ever owned, and I've had quite a few as can be seen in my sig.

Thats interesting, I had no idea!

I don't want to waste time flashing my Dash with a cooked 6.0 ROM (HTC ROM) if 6.1 is only a few weeks away. Any estimate from the ROM cookers on a 6.1 release for the Dash?

Microsoft Is Coming Out With An Official 6.1 Version For The Excalibur Very Soon
T-Will said:
I don't want to waste time flashing my Dash with a cooked 6.0 ROM (HTC ROM) if 6.1 is only a few weeks away. Any estimate from the ROM cookers on a 6.1 release for the Dash?
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This is good news to my ears, I had no ideal that Microsoft was coming out with a official released for the Excalibur very soon...........!

Haha, yeah good thing I didn't waste my time with a cooked 6.0 ROM...

This ever happed?
WM 6.1 for S621, Excalibur?
Official ROM release?

Official update for TouchFLO 3D?

HTC begins shipping its Diamond handset with updated TouchFLO interface.
One of HTC's Diamond key selling points is its TouchFLO 3D interface, which brings a new way to scroll through contacts, browse the Internet, and the like. However, unfortunately, performance has been generally sluggish. HTC looks to remedy this, by releasing a newer version of the interface on new Touches. The newer version of the interface looks to bring an significant speed-boost to the table. There is no word if current owners will be able to upgrade to the new version as of yet.
source: Mobile-Review​
Does anybody have their hands on this updated version? Or at least some more info about it - version number, included in new rom, performance video etc.​

If this is true this wil be verry handy. I recently order my diamond, however it was sold out. New shipment is expected in early July, so maybe i get a new version

Ive just ugraded my ROM to version 1.37.405.1 WWE and can confim that touchflo 3D runs much more smoothly!

I would suggest version 1.37.456.2
It is newer with some new versions of programs and much faster!!!

Hmmmm i wonder if they are talking about the 1.37.456.2 ROM or about something different and newer... w8 n see i guess

I am using my diamond in the US, which WWE ROM are you using, and more important where did u downloaded it ?

honestly guys this has NOTHING TODO WITH ROM DEVELOPMENT!!!
jesus lets try and post this in the correct forums.

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honestly guys this has NOTHING TODO WITH ROM DEVELOPMENT!!!
jesus lets try and post this in the correct forums.
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Apologies, but I thought it'll be usefull information for you guys cooking roms. Move it to the general Diamond section if you wish.

Still no news on this theme? Seeming that the O2 versions of the diamond are shipping in more countries every day i would think that the new touchflo version has appeared somewhere...

Wm 6.1 - 6.5 upgrade

I sure hope this is the correct forum for this post. If it is not please excuse me for improper placing.
Way back when in 2007 I purchased an HTC Tytn and immediately found this website and was able to unlock the Tytn and was able to successfully upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.0 Professional - I believe I also upgraded my antena as well. I also found some cool weather app or something.
Since then I have not messed with the phone at all - in actuality it has been inactive for large periods of time. Well fast forward to 2009 and I am looking to upgrade this to 6.1 or 6.5.
There seems to be a plethora of options and posts out there - could anyone point me to a good stable working upgrade? As well as advice on any new cool APPS / Programs that they would recommend - that may have been developed in the past 1.5 yrs?
I thank you for your time in advanced.

Upgrading to 6.1 or 6.5
Good morning,
Well, you're probably going to be flashing a lot, since there are many new builds available since you've been gone. You'll find there is not going to be one that is an overwhelming recommendation, as much is personal preference.
That said, before you do anymore flashing, make sure you have the hardspl done and also that you have downloaded a stripped ROM, both of which you can find many places here.
There doesn't seem to be much difference between standard 6.0 and 6.1. I would suggest trying a few of the 6.5 builds, they are much more exciting and add new life to our phones. TAI_Sw has been churning out more ROMS than McDonalds has hamburgers lately - I would try one of those first.
You'll notice the today screen is much different, the interface is called Titanium - I personally don't like it, so the first thing I do is go into Settings, Today, and take that out and check the items I like. Besides the Titanium, some of the ROMS have Manilla, which is another cool option, and FCW has a newer ROM with a PointUI cooked in, another neat interface.
Bottom line, I believe you'll be happier with 6.5, which build is purely a personal choice. In any event, have fun flashing over and over until you find something you're happy with.
Best Regards.

Well I thank you for your reply. I have acquired the HARDSPL download from the sticky. As for the stripped rom - I seem to be lost at this point I have done a few searches but have not come up with much. Is this stripped rom specific to your carrier/provider? I am with a Canadian Carrier Rogers Wireless - I did see Tai_Sw reference a stripped rom for At&T. Hmmm?
Thoughts? Thanks for the heads up on WM 6.5 - I will definately narrow my focus to the 6.5 variety (just got to sift through the thousands of posts - to find a download for 6.5)

6.5 Links
I would stick to the first two pages of posts, that is if you're sorting your posts by the most recent activity. Read the comments toward the end of each post to see if there have been any problems with a specific ROM. I don't think it would be a problem using the AT&T stripped ROM, as you're immediately going to flash another, so carrier settings are not important.

I've played with 6.5 a little bit. Had it on my 8525 for a few days. It always feels slow in comparison to 6.1 for me. It takes a lot of memory to run. Keep in mind that it is still in beta at Microsoft, so anything you flash is going to have bugs, regardless of the tremendous talents of the chefs here.
The IE in WM6.5 is REALLY slow. There have been a few complaints about that and I concure. If you want fast and stable, I'd stick with 6.1 for a little while longer. I'm sure 6.5 will be much better when Microsoft finalizes it (or at least hits release candidate status). For now though, it is just too BUGGY.

Also, 6.5 probably has a time limit on it right now. I'm guessing it won't go away till someone finds it and removes the time limit, or when 6.5 comes out of beta.

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Also, 6.5 probably has a time limit on it right now. I'm guessing it won't go away till someone finds it and removes the time limit, or when 6.5 comes out of beta.
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on the other hand theres some good things coming out of 6.5 now and the official release is due soon so as for the timebomb built in there shouldnt be a problem. dispite its bugs i think 6.5 is a worthy upgrade and will become better as time goes on and new builds come out for us to play with.

Can you upgrade and then downgrade?
Ive just started flashing for the first time (ive already successfully flashed two 6.1 roms) and i have a question about upgrading from 6.1 to 6.5. Once you upgrade to 6.5 can you easily go back to 6.1 just by flashing a 6.1 rom? I know it seems like a simple question but ive looked around and havent seen any answers to it yet. Also, is flashing the 6.5 rom just the same as flashing a 6.1 rom or is there something else i would need to do?

jrodizzkool01 said:
Ive just started flashing for the first time (ive already successfully flashed two 6.1 roms) and i have a question about upgrading from 6.1 to 6.5. Once you upgrade to 6.5 can you easily go back to 6.1 just by flashing a 6.1 rom? I know it seems like a simple question but ive looked around and havent seen any answers to it yet. Also, is flashing the 6.5 rom just the same as flashing a 6.1 rom or is there something else i would need to do?
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It's all the same. You can flash any rom you want (as long as you have hardspl!).

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It's all the same. You can flash any rom you want (as long as you have hardspl!).
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thanks! just flashed a 6.5 rom on my touch pro and it rocks!

the time-limit on WM6.5 is true. i am currently using WM6.5 on a Treo750 and last week I noticed (with a lot of others) that this version of WM6.5 will stop functioning on 01-july 2009!
Hopefully we can find a 'way-around' this...
I am open for suggestions

treo-xxx said:
the time-limit on WM6.5 is true. i am currently using WM6.5 on a Treo750 and last week I noticed (with a lot of others) that this version of WM6.5 will stop functioning on 01-july 2009!
Hopefully we can find a 'way-around' this...
I am open for suggestions
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we also should have the official soon. its finished at least now wont see a new phone with it on till september but we should have it very soon.

upgrading from WM6.1 to 6.5
so would anyone recommend flashing a 6.5 ROM on a sprint HTC touch pro??
and how would i go about doing it??

Rhahkeem said:
so would anyone recommend flashing a 6.5 ROM on a sprint HTC touch pro??
and how would i go about doing it??
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I really wouldn't flash a hermes rom to it! Might need to do a bit more research first!