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Hi, I have been searching on the forum in search of some information on MicroSD cards and came to no avail.
With my HD, it came with a 8GB Class 6 MicroSDHC. I think it needed it to play videos. I can't imagine using it with a slower card.
Now, my TP2 will arrive Monday and I would like to know the following:
1. Brand
2. Size
3. Speed (class)
4. Price
Is it performing well with the video playbacks or have you installed the SD Tuner software available for the HD?
What do you recommend?
Many, many thanks for any replies, comments and help!
Bought a A-Data microSD class 6, 4 GB at a local computer store.
Not the one i was looking for, i wanted the 8GB or 16GB but both where not in stock and the 4GB was less then 10 euros. I will buy a larger one in a few months.
With class 6 my phone isn't slowed down. A few years ago i bought a 2GB mini-SD, but my HTC Vox was slowed down very much. Didn't look to the class/or speed back then.
MicroSD cards based on SLC might be beter them MLC. IMHO i would always take a class 6 or higher card. However class 8 cards are hard to find.
I'm using the 8GB Class 4 card that came with my daughter's Nokia 5800 and it seems fine. Just watched an xdiv episode of Only Fools and Horses on it with no stutter or dropped frames.
I bought a class 6 off Ebay and it should be here on Monday so I can compare then
i'm using sandisk 8g class 2. whatched movies and played music, everything is fine. It only cost me just under tenner.
The performance diference between a class 2 or a class 6 is not that noticeable. However, at the price the cards are, I think it worths always to buy a class 6 card.
I bought a Transcend 8GB class 6 card. It cost me aprox. 20€.
The biggest differences I noticed between a class 2 and 6 card are:
-Taking photos is faster with class 6
-Browsing photos in sdcard is a bit faster also
-Viewing movies sometimes is a bit more smooth.
HastaSSSS
I have a 16GB class 2 Sandisk. I watch movies just fine. I figure with a class 6 i might be able to watch HD videos more smoothly.
Hi guys,
Thanks for all your replies. So from what you guys are telling me, it is always better to pay that little extra for the class 6 MicroSDs. But then again, is it worth investing in a 16GB Class 4 (no Class 6 available except the brand A-Data) or an 8GB Class 6.
16GB is nearly 4 times more expensive than the 8GB and yet it is slower. Shall I just get 2 8GB and hot swap the 2 cards as need be?
I bought a class 6 off Ebay and it should be here on Monday so I can compare then
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Yeah, please let us know if it makes that much of a difference.
Bought a A-Data microSD class 6, 4 GB at a local computer store.
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I have read about this brand, and what others said was that their Class 6 under performs Sandisk's Class 4 Cards. Do yo notice any differences? How is the performance?
Also, I wouldn't recommend buying these cards off eBay. There are so many, fake cards on there. I know so, because I know mates that sell these cards. I would just buy from a genuine local store and pay a little bit more unless you don't care about performance.
Anyway, my last question.
What brand do you think has the best performance. Yeah, we can find out all the data about these cards on the web but it's nothing like the hands on tests from real users. So, will it be Sandisk, Transend, Toshiba, Kingston or the later A-Data?
Found a pretty review on the Sandisk 16GB C4 MicroSDHC cards. They compared it to the Kingston 8GB C4 MicroSDHC card.
Sandisk seems to be the company that is producing the fastest cards. It out performs Kingston.
But $133, is a bit steep. I think if I am correct a Sandisk 8GB C6 MicroSDHC is only $49.
What do you think?
You won't notice much difference between class 2 and class 6 as the device can only read at a certain speed, which is nearer class 4.
There are some cheap class 2 16gb cards out there, I have them and you only really notice if you install something like sdtuneup, but then again, you wouldn't notice much difference between class4 and class6
SanDisk microSDHC 16 GB Mobile Ultra works fine!
With the enclosed reader it is really fast via USB.
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the device can only read at a certain speed, which is nearer class 4.
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Cheers for the heads up about the TP2's read speed.
I was going to go for a 16GB class 2 but now might hold out for a class 4.
Haven't noticed any speed difference between my 8GB class 4 and 6 cards except that it's possibly slower than my Trinity but that may be due to the crummy TP2 stock ROM...
cocoaju said:
Shall I just get 2 8GB and hot swap the 2 cards as need be?
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Please don't get two 8GB's, you will ruin the back cover of the device swapping the cards over all the time
My understanding is that the Class affects write speed, not read speed, so you won't see a difference playing movies on one or the other. You will see a difference in the amount of time it takes to get the movie onto the card (providing you aren't using ActiveSync, which will slow things down way beyond Class2 speeds).
I have a SanDisk Class 2 16 GB card on my Vogue and watch movies just fine with CorePlayer. Maybe a brief stutter once every 5 minutes or so, which I attribute to WinMo doing some other task in the background, not the read speed of the card.
In short, if it doesn't matter to you how long it takes to transfer large files onto the card, go with the least expensive.
Haven't noticed any speed difference between my 8GB class 4 and 6 cards except that it's possibly slower than my Trinity but that may be due to the crummy TP2 stock ROM...
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Really? How much slower?
Yeah, I think I will go for 16GB for sure. The only thing now is what class. I am hearing 2 things here. I am worried about stutters on watching movies.
Some are saying speed only matters to write and not read.
But then I have read that it does matter, that is why there is a SDTuneUp for the HD.
I really don't want to buy a cheaper Class 2 card and only finding it is not working to my standards. I am pretty fussy about these things.
Any of you needed to install the SDTuneUp registry edit for the TP2? Do we need it? Anyone did any tests?
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Really? How much slower?
Yeah, I think I will go for 16GB for sure. The only thing now is what class. I am hearing 2 things here. I am worried about stutters on watching movies.
Some are saying speed only matters to write and not read.
But then I have read that it does matter, that is why there is a SDTuneUp for the HD.
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Check this out.
And this.
Class rating only refers to write speed, even though on the official SD association page it says "transfer speed." What they don't say is that it's transfer speed only one direction.
ajbopp said:
Check this out.
And this.
Class rating only refers to write speed, even though on the official SD association page it says "transfer speed." What they don't say is that it's transfer speed only one direction.
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Hello ajbopp,
Thanks for your additional information. I think not a lot of people actually realise this. I always thought the Class Rating was how you determine transfer speed and not just write speed.
But there must be some ratings for Reading. Some cards are faster than others and that will certainly affect the rate of requiring information from the card, right? Because files are written in blocks and are distributed everywhere (fragmentation), so if the card is faster, then finding the blocks will be quicker, hence a better performance for reading movie files.
Just thinking logically how computer hard disk works. Not sure if that applies to SDHC cards. I also think the speed is also determined by the drive (the hardware reading/writing on the card).
There aren't many information on this. I have been searching around and most information I found was given by the companies that made these cards. Real tests are few and far between. Most websites I visited, tells me only of the write speed as I think that is what is most important to people who uses these cards, such as Photo Fanatics who needs speed for taking high end photos very quickly and for taking HD videos at 30fps. There is less need to know about read speed.
It's so confusing...
Got it yesterday. Thanks for all your help guys!
I finally went for the Transcend 8GB Class 6 Micro SDHC. Cost of only $187 HKD, roughly $23 USD. Didn't end up getting the 16GB as they didn't have any in stock and it costs 3 times the amount.
Without any tests, I just loaded my movies and it played very well. No dropped frames. No tweaks whatsoever.
Hello!
I had a TP with a Micro SD 8GB Class 2 card.
I'm considering buying a new one (lack of space available) and I wonder if I should consider a class 4 or 6...
I use the MicroSD to store software, pictures (camera), music (to listen), and some videos (to watch).
I don't intend to remove the microsd from the TP2 slot (have to remove the cover) so what I usually do is to connect via USB cable (data instead of AS).
So, transfering data like this will I notice difference with Class 2, 4 or 6?
I'd get a good price with this:
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-SDC2-16GB-microSDHC/dp/B001RPD06I
is it good enough or should I buy a Sandisk or perhaps a Class 4 or 6?
Thanks
SanDisk and Kingston are both good manufactures.
Class 4 is faster than class 2 and class 6 is faster than class 4.
But on the other hand: class 4 cards need more power consumption than class 2 cards and class 6 cards need power consumption than class 4.
For this reason I bought 1 x 16gb class 4. That is the compromise of speed and power.
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Class 4 is faster than class 2 and class 6 is faster than class 4.
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Again, this is only for write speed. I think it's an important distinction to make, especially if you are hoping for better video playback because of a faster card. The class of the card is not likely to have any impact on the device's performance, either video or anything else (other than file saving/writing operations).
so... for my kinda use there is no need for a class 6 right?
do you think a class 2 kingston MicroSD 16GB can be used for what I want?
playback music and some video... storage ... navigation?
Patriot has released a Class 10 32GB micro SDHC card.
Newegg is out of stock but has the price as $99.99.
Just thought y'all might want to know.
Edit: Newegg sez its availability will be 1/8/2011
Do our phones support 32GB microSDs? I read somewhere that 32GB didn't work with our Vibrants which was really ****ty but...was what it was.
Can someone either confirm this or deny it? Specifically, do so by testing with a specific 32GB card...
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Do our phones support 32GB microSDs? I read somewhere that 32GB didn't work with our Vibrants which was really ****ty but...was what it was.
Can someone either confirm this or deny it? Specifically, do so by testing with a specific 32GB card...
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I've had a 32 GB microSD in mine for months - works fine!
I listen to music (I have approx 20 gigs of music stored on it) and store the pix I take with the camera on it - haven't had any problems.
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Patriot has released a Class 10 32GB micro SDHC card.
Newegg is out of stock but has the price as $99.99.
Just thought y'all might want to know.
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dude this is amazing i will watch that item like a hawk untill it is in my phone and oh yes it will be mine class 10 all the way
Can our phones support class 10, I know it will work but is there speed benefits.
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Can our phones support class 10, I know it will work but is there speed benefits.
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The benefit would probably be in it being able to keep up with HD video recording, and decreased time scanning the microsdhc card when booting up, or mounting or unmounting it.
Yet, the bigger the card and more data would slow down the scanning. Double edge sword.
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Yet, the bigger the card and more data would slow down the scanning. Double edge sword.
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Maybe. I depends on how many files it has to catalog. I imagine that a 32GB microsd with 10 2.3GB movies would scan much faster than a 8GB card filled with mp3s
Have you noticed that the card makers are going away from what the Class system is supposed to be. Look at the transfer rates of the Class 4 cards now and they are equal or better than some of the class 10 cards. Doesn't make sense to me, but maybe people didn't understand the Class system and its relationship to transfer rates.
So the Class system is supposed to specify a minimum transfer rate, which increases as the Class goes up.
However, it seems that it is applied arbitrarily by different manufacturers.
Check SD card wiki for more information.
Newegg says they are available
Newegg just notified me that the Patriot 32Gb class 10 micro SDHC is now available. Now it is $99.99.
Newegg also has a Wintec Class 10 32GB for 82.49 - it isn't by Patriot, but it comes with a lifetime warranty.
I have a Wintec 16 gig class 10 in my Vibrant.
Works very well, very snappy performance.
I've never figured out a way to test it in the phone, but thru a adapter on my laptop it hovers around 17-18 meg thruput both read and write.
(edit) BTW, I got it at Frys.
It was 38.99$
Nice price.
Patriot LX 32GB Class 10 benchmarked with SD Tools v1.3
(HTC Desire HD + Android v2.2 rooted)
Oh, by the way, about the SD Class system, it only rate the minimum sustained write speed of the card, but not for random writes.
Wow. That's pretty awful if the benchmark is to be believed.
i have a scandisk class 4 32gb , it has a write speed of 4.8 and a read 11.4
Semi-related, I have a patriot 8gb class 10 card that is holding up very well, including quick transfers. Patriot seems to be pretty good stuff, so I'm considering getting a 16 and passing the 8 down to my girlfriend. I don't think I could find a need for 48GB on the phone, except to hold backups for reflashing.
I want to max out the memory with a 32gb SDHC. Anyone have any suggestions?
The SanDisk 32GB is very good,
it performs higher than stated with regards to class and obviously is a highly reliable make.
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Another vote here for sandisk, havent actually tried their 32GB, but every other card i've had from them has been faultless.
Most important thing w.r.t. memory cards IMO, is to buy from a reliable source. Ebay is rife with fakes.
Arc can handle up to class 6?
Or i shall order a class 8 or 10.
When i bought arc i had in the case a 16gb sdhc card, but i want a faster one
someone was able to get between 6.00 to 6.79 MB/s on his Class 6 16GB MicroSD, but that was on an X10. you might get similar results on the Arc.
(source)
just got a lexar 32gb class 10 card from amazon (solutek) works great , faster than standard card supplied with arc
I guess I'll try the Sandisk, much appreciated guys. Now I just need this phone to be shipped.
I Bought a Sandisk Class 4 32GB and it works fine for me.
The data transfer to the card seems faster when I take it out of the phone.
I was thinking of getting Lexar MicroSDHC 32 GB Class 10 from amazon for my arc so anyone have it already and how is it? cus i didn't see any sandisk microsd have class 10 32Gb.
I've used the original Sandisk MicroSd 8 Gb (Class 2) and a Class 6 variant... When you copy big numbers of mp3 or movies to the phone, it really makes a difference. Example: with a Class 2 it takes about up to 1 or more hours to transfer 1 Gb - a Class 6 does the job in less then 5 minutes...! But if you want to buy a good rated SD because of the HD-camera, then Class 2 should be high enough (according to the experts). Any higher only helps if you transfer data a lot/often (like changing your musiccollection on the Arc).
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I was thinking of getting Lexar MicroSDHC 32 GB Class 10 from amazon for my arc so anyone have it already and how is it? cus i didn't see any sandisk microsd have class 10 32Gb.
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i'm on 32gb class10 Lexar, so far so good
+1 for The lexar class 10. Very good !!! The best solution with The sandisk class 4.
I bought a Kingstone 16GB Class 4, at first it was impressive but now it jams when shoot a video a lot.
speed of the memory:
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btw, if anyone spots a good micro sd 16gb class 6 or higher please inform me.
I become a 16GB Class 2 Card but this card was wrong, the write speed is 3Mb/s, then I bought a new 16GB Class 10 Card. This card speed: 11.3/20.9 (write/read) the i am happy The maked HD video is better and the frame rate is really 30fps
UPDATE: The card worked much data disappeared from him then until 5 days. The next day the telephone did not see the card already though. F***ing noname card! Nobody let me not buy it trademarkless card!
ok im sorry, i just wanted to confirm something, i'm looking at a getting a new sdhc card, mine is a oem verizon sandisk 16 gb class 2. im looking into upgrading to a 32 gb. i have alota music, maps, cm rom backups etc, and im looking at moving most of my apps to the card.
from what i understand a class 2, 4, 10 dosent mean much difference in the phone, but when downloading files to a computer. i wanted to confirm that the class doesnt mean much in the phone's speed..... this will change which card i go with... sandisk class 2 32gb are roughly 60 bucks and i like the company cause ive never had a problem with them, however the store down the road frys has a wintec class 10 32 gb for 65 bucks.... just wanted to get your guys opinion.... especially since the lenex and kingston are 100 each... again im not talking about the brand im talking about the class
It will make a difference on how fast things on the sdcard load. For instance your gallery will load much faster with a higher class card. If you have apps installed on your sdcard then they will load faster and so on. Now with this being said I have a 16GB Wintech class 10 card and and Adata class 6 card. The Adata class 6 loads everything much faster than the Wintech. My guess as to why this happens is because Adata is simply a better brand than Wintech. Some people have gotten lucky with the Wintech Class 10 cards and some have not. Some Class 2 cards will read and write at class 6 speeds. Is it confusing...a little, but the higher the class for the most part the higher the speed. If you can find a good class 6 or class 10 card it will be worth it, but my advice is to stay away from the Wintech. I have heard also that the Kingston class 4 cards usually are much faster than what they are rated for. If you want cheap, go cheap, but IMO you usually get what you pay for and Kingston is probably the top brand when it comes to microsd cards.
That's not necessarily true. The class rating refers to the minimum write speed - it has nothing to do with the read speed. I recently upgraded to a 16GB class 10 card from an 8GB class 6 card.
The class 6 card got ~7 MB/s write and ~14 MB/s read in SDTools. The class 10 card gets ~11 MB/s write and ~9 MB/s read.
But in general, the higher the class the better the card will perform in your phone.
yeah, higher class cards are only really good if you stream a lot
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Kingston is probably the top brand when it comes to microsd cards.
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i know this is only your opinion and im not trying to put you down or anything, but i do believe scandisk is top rated memory card.
i may be wrong, but im pretty sure they have lowest consumer complaints (about card dieing after a month or read and write speeds being slow, or whatever the consumer may complain about)
i have always used scandisk and i, myself would rate them to be the best, but thats just my opinion.
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i know this is only your opinion and im not trying to put you down or anything, but i do believe scandisk is top rated memory card.
i may be wrong, but im pretty sure they have lowest consumer complaints (about card dieing after a month or read and write speeds being slow, or whatever the consumer may complain about)
i have always used scandisk and i, myself would rate them to be the best, but thats just my opinion.
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Sandisk, not scandisk.
hey
Which card should i buy?
Which class is the internal memory?
Do i need class 10 card?
thnks.
I have a 16 gig class ten and it made no difference on my N1 compared to the stock class 4 card as far as performance goes with apps2sd and the like during operation. It also made no difference transferring files to or from the sd while in the phone. It is much faster if you take it out and plug it into the laptop though. I'm not sure if that limitation applied to the N1 alone or is common with this one. I was thinking of getting a 32 gig because then I could carry all my music and wouldnt have to hassle with it as the internal storage is enough for all my other uses. Knowing what I know now I will likely go with a name brand class 4 card. Too many horror stories with fake cards and my own experience is that the extra speed from class 10s doesnt do much of anything in my usage.
If you do a search you will find several recent threads on SD cards....
You don't need class 10! because this is not a super professional camera. Class 4 is enough (in some case even class 2 is enough 'cause some people say that class 2 speed of some manufacturers is faster then class 4 of other ones).
I have ordered SanDisk class 4 32gb and still wating for delivery...
Choose only good manufacturers, such as: SanDisk/Trancerd/Kingston/A-Data (and before doing an order, check on their official website (and google a lil' bit) if the particular class exist - for example if you will see class 2, 6 or 8 of Kingston on ebay, know that it's a fake since kingston has only 4 and 10 classes according to their website)
I don't know if this is only in the Netherlands but here its possible to get a 8GB micro sd for FREE from Samsung when you registrate your purchase on the samsung site. (only condition is that you buy your device before the end of may)
On my camera I've had issues when recording hd quality movies in anything less than a class 6.
So I'm going for class 6 or above on phone
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I use a Sandisk 32 gb class 2 and it works perfectly Cannot feel the different if I use that or a Kingston class 6 card...
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Café King said:
I use a Sandisk 32 gb class 2 and it works perfectly Cannot feel the different if I use that or a Kingston class 6 card...
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Which card did you get? Im looking for the cheapest sandsik 32 gb right now, sandisk's are underrated. a class 2 can be faster than a other brand class 4 or 6.
if you google "SD class speeds " the second link down (this is applicable to micro sd as well gents)
it will show you what class you will need for what application eg recording 1080p on your phone will require a class 4 minimum however class 6 is "moar" recommended
however as stated above class 10 isnt needed and if you read a few reviews some class 6 in the case of sandisk e.g. the sandisk extreme class 6 III is faster than some cheapo class 10.
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Which card did you get? Im looking for the cheapest sandsik 32 gb right now, sandisk's are underrated. a class 2 can be faster than a other brand class 4 or 6.
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If you mean where I bought it? I bought in a danish web shop So don't think that's relevant for you
Allez L'OM
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If you mean where I bought it? I bought in a danish web shop So don't think that's relevant for you
Allez L'OM
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Hahaha, im not French, just on an internship here. And it is not relevant indeed. Thanks anyway!
And you probably paid a lot for it, Denmark is so expansive. I actually was in Viborg(nice little city) last year, did a little road trip when I came back from Sweden. (lived there for a while) Anyway, ill browse some french sites and ebay.
If i buy class 4 card, do the FHD video capture would work without aproblem or lags?
The GS2 know how to use class 10 sd card??
thnks
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Hahaha, im not French, just on an internship here. And it is not relevant indeed. Thanks anyway!
And you probably paid a lot for it, Denmark is so expansive. I actually was in Viborg(nice little city) last year, did a little road trip when I came back from Sweden. (lived there for a while) Anyway, ill browse some french sites and ebay.
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Wow, crazy you actually have been in my city Lovely city!
And yes, I paid about £110 for the sd card. Bought it the say day it got out. But totally worth the money.
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micro SDHC class
so, can somebody please confirm that class 4 micro SDHC card (good brand) is enough for taking videos on GS2? I am looking at 32GB and it seems there is a shortage of class 10 cards in my country, should I buy class 4?
I believe the semi official numbers for 1080P recording on the SGSII is 17Mbps? That means a bit more than 2MB per second. 'Class' refers to how many MB's the card can write each second, so class 4 should be fine for 1080P, as well as many class 2 cards. But of course faster is always better
I bought a class 2 32 gb from amazon.it...
Can you suggest me a program / tool to test its speed?
Anyway, I used it to record a full hd video for 15 mins. I watched it entirely and I didn't notice any skipped frame or stucks etc.. It runs fine
Just plug in to a pc and copy a large file. That will show you the speed.
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If i buy class 4 card, do the FHD video capture would work without aproblem or lags?
The GS2 know how to use class 10 sd card??
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it will work w/o any prob
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I bought a class 2 32 gb from amazon.it...
Can you suggest me a program / tool to test its speed?
Anyway, I used it to record a full hd video for 15 mins. I watched it entirely and I didn't notice any skipped frame or stucks etc.. It runs fine
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Have a look for h2testw Version 1.4. It's a free utility that will test capacity and speed. As you may know, the problem with lots of card on sale is that they have been hacked to make it appear that they have a greater capacity than they actually have. It can be sometimes hard to spot but h2testw (and, no doubt, others like it) will do proper checks.
im after a good 32gb card anyone has any trusted sellers (internationally shipping) would like to share
or ship to Australia.